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Hope that helps.
It doesn't help. I still do not see the axes, connections, proportions and orientations of the coils, plates and switches.
It is not without a reason that they say a picture is worth a 1000 words.
   

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It doesn't help. I still do not see the axes, connections, proportions and orientations of the coils, plates and switches.
It is not without a reason that they say a picture is worth a 1000 words.

Nice try, the circuit I'm not posting, only a description, that way you have to experiment.
I am talking of others, not you in this case, this is a public area.

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Verpies, like this.


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This bifilar "coil" which is not a coil but two capacitor plates, has another bifilar coil wound over the top.

The centre "first bifilar"now is a core to the second bifilar wound over the top.

Now each coil of the second bifilar are second plates to the core plates when biased with two different grounds, "two supplies" .

When all is connected correctly with the correct extra coils and switches (mosfets), that secondary bifilar also collects induced current and keeps the input biasing capacitors always charged.

There is a lot more, but that is the start to overunity. That core (two plates) have electrons which are in a higher energy state.

Verpies, you know all about higher energy electron states  O0

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The Bedini guy's latest video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e4iMAU0DDM


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The Bedini guy's latest video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e4iMAU0DDM

He seems to know what he is talking about.

Higher energy electrons is key.

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Here is a continuation of the pdf

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Mosfet driven by Light pipe.

The wiring is straight forward with direct coupling from toslink connector to mosfet driver then to the mosfet.
Decoupling caps on the mosfet driver are essential as noise will be the result without them.  The data sheets explain this.

Mic4422 was the mosfet driver  I used which will run from 5 volts to 36volts
I used a 9v battery which is fine for logic level Mosfets.
You can just double the supply voltage to 18 volts if you need a higher gate voltage. The toslink supply will need to have a 5v regulator.

 This works up to 1.4 megahertz after which the duty cycle became unequal . This can be fixed by altering the source duty for correct balance but clearly this would be the reliable limit.

 In my case 33khz was the maximum required at this stage.

I also found that my fy8300 3 channel generator was not symmetrical unless cmos output was selected. These are cheap for what you get but have many flaws.

One of the other advantages of this is that you are able to operate your contraptions from some distance away as I don’t trust my ageing brain for safety with high voltages.

In my case I also have a pacemaker fitted which is another can of undefined worms .


Keeping the noise generated from high current high voltage switching is also nice to have, knowing that any induced noise is in one place and can be dealt with a lot easier than chasing ground loops where everything contributes as an antenna.

Having complex switching circuits with the inherent noise and human mistakes on your well lit, well equipped bench is important
in my case as with others  I assume.

Making 3 phase motor controllers is another application where isolation makes things very friendly.  It would not be hard to use this same method in reverse for feedback although I have not tackled this yet.
 I hope that this will make experimenting easier and safer for most who are rightly over cautious about high voltage to the degree that prevents their progress as there is no fallback position from high current dc passing through your body.
   

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I read in the PDF:
"Arising from this is a differential output where both are positive leads. By placing a resistive load across the output, current is created which is only subject to that resistance"

This text contains nothing but platitudes. Of course, current depends solely on the potential difference. Potential alone is completely meaningless. Relative to what? The choice is completely arbitrary.
Energy depends on the reference frame, and therefore on the potential chosen. If we connect the terminal of a capacitor, which we consider to be zero potential, regardless of its potential relative to anything else,  which may be positive or negative, we can only draw from the resistor the current resulting from the potential difference of the other plate.


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This text contains nothing but platitudes.
There is a differentce between platitudes and inability of technical unambiguous expression.
   
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There is a differentce between platitudes and inability of technical unambiguous expression.

Certainly. But as the poet and critic Boileau said: ‘Whatever is well conceived is clearly said, And the words to say it flow with ease

While approximate language may be acceptable in a discussion, it is no longer acceptable in a study that is supposed to teach us something. If we have to play guessing games and invent what the author might have meant, when even the author himself doesn't always really know, we would need as many answers as there are interpretations, and we would never get anywhere.
I only respond to what I read. It is up to the author to rephrase if something else is to be understood, and perhaps before that, to try to understand what gauge invariance is in the context of electromagnetism.

Feel free to respond based on what you have understood.


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Mosfet driven by Light pipe.

The wiring is straight forward with direct coupling from toslink connector to mosfet driver then to the mosfet.
Decoupling caps on the mosfet driver are essential as noise will be the result without them.  The data sheets explain this.

Mic4422 was the mosfet driver  I used which will run from 5 volts to 36volts
I used a 9v battery which is fine for logic level Mosfets.
You can just double the supply voltage to 18 volts if you need a higher gate voltage. The toslink supply will need to have a 5v regulator.

This works up to 1.4 megahertz after which the duty cycle became unequal . This can be fixed by altering the source duty for correct balance but clearly this would be the reliable limit.

Is there a schematic available? Interesiting concept. Is it suitable for high side switching? Perhaps we can explore this more in a separate thread? Thank you for providing these information.
   

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Energy depends on the reference frame,...
Mass too, if you consider the Lorentz transformation.
   

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This works up to 1.4 megahertz after which the duty cycle became unequal .
What is the minimum ON pulse width that you can get out of it ?
714ns ? 357ns ? 8ns ? ...
   
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Good question!

Its 4us disappointing I have reflections . I have more work to do .
I will start a new thread on this when the performance is more useful.
   
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Mass too, if you consider the Lorentz transformation.

Mass is invariant under Lorentz transformation if we consider proper mass (rest mass). The concept of relativistic mass is obsolete and is no longer even taught.

I don't see what this remark adds. Potential or kinetic energy, for example, has no intrinsic reality, no location, unlike mass. It is a potentiality that can be exploited in one system by depleting another, and this is where the question of the reference frame takes on its full meaning, unlike in the case of mass.


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Mass is invariant under Lorentz transformation if we consider proper mass (rest mass).
Of course, at rest there is no relative motion and the Lorentz factor degenerates to 1.

The concept of relativistic mass is obsolete and is no longer even taught.
These are merely contemporary trends in physics.
If variant mass is not currently fashionable as the reason for the inability to accelerate it past c, then what is ?
You have only two ways out of this question, i.e. length (space) contraction and time dilation.  If you use any of them, I will counter that with the dimensional definition of mass in terms of space and time.

I don't see what this remark adds.
It emphasizes that motion alters the measurements of space, time and mass (charge too, btw).

Potential or kinetic energy, for example, has no intrinsic reality, no location, unlike mass.
Reality is in the eye of the beholder, just like color.  Later, I will argue that this applies to space, too.
If the prerequisite for the realness is "location" in Minkowski's space then the relativity of space will throw a monkey wrench into this condition.

It is a potentiality that can be exploited in one system by depleting another, and this is where the question of the reference frame takes on its full meaning, unlike in the case of mass.
Seems like you are distinguishing energy as an idea and mass as an object.  ...and you attempt to list some of their properties. I was in the same place mentally 30 years ago and I still think that energy is not an object.  Since then I have understood that many other phenomena are just ideas / abstractions.  I will agree that color, space, time, force fields and energy, etc... are just ideas - not objects.  This will lead us to an interesting question whether compound ideas can become objects, in other words: if something can be expressed solely in terms of these ideas, can that something be considered an object ?

Another interesting question is whether ideas can have properties ...or do properties exist only in the realm of objects (such as the temperature of water) ?

If space has properties such as geometric dimensionality, curvature and "locations" (which you have mentioned), does that mean that space is an object or an idea (like a geometric reference system) ?

As a farewell task, I would like you to consider the dimensions of energy and mass in terms of other concepts.
In English language the word "dimension" has several meanings. One is geometrical, others are not.
In this case I am referring to dimensional analysis of concepts, e.g.:
speed = s/t
acceleration = s/t^2
volumetric flow = s^3/t
etc... 

...and please do not come back quoting the SI system's fundamental units for energy and mass,  That would be axiomatically boring and dogmatic and will not lead to the expansion of knowledge and understanding.
   
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I read in the PDF:
"Arising from this is a differential output where both are positive leads. By placing a resistive load across the output, current is created which is only subject to that resistance"

This text contains nothing but platitudes. Of course, current depends solely on the potential difference. Potential alone is completely meaningless. Relative to what? The choice is completely arbitrary.

This may be true of grade school level science but that's not what we are talking about here.
In fact, an "electric current" is defined solely by how much charge or charge carriers pass a given point per unit of time... period.

For example, we charge the surface of a ball with some free electrons and throw said ball into space. The extra free electrons moving with the ball constitute an electric current which could remain in motion for millions of years. When said extra free electrons moving with the ball hit another object they redistribute over the surface of the object which is also considered an electric current.

This example is why it's important to apply critical thinking and first principals. If people want to understand electricity read the works of Volta, Ampere, Faraday and Tesla not this watered down nonsense most are being fed. These people literally invented the electrodynamics we know today.




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The Bedini guy's latest video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e4iMAU0DDM

I like it and he is off to a good start. Note in the video, the circuit diagram shows the battery current flowing from the (-) terminal to the (+) terminal or electron flow notation which is the correct form of notation. This matters and shows they are trying to work with reality not hearsay. Only the (-) free electrons can move, if the (+) charges moved the copper atoms of the wires would have to flow which is absurd.

FYI, the majority of all the credible FE inventors used electron flow notation for a reason.

The first clue should have been that we can add (-) free electrons to a wire or subtract them from it but this is not true of the (+) charges or protons. Even a child should be able to understand this and yet many are still using the completely outdated standard form of notation. So it's important to understand the actual facts of a matter versus all the hearsay out there.


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I like it and he is off to a good start. Note in the video, the circuit diagram shows the battery current flowing from the (-) terminal to the (+) terminal or electron flow notation which is the correct form of notation. This matters and shows they are trying to work with reality not hearsay. Only the (-) free electrons can move, if the (+) charges moved the copper atoms of the wires would have to flow which is absurd.

FYI, the majority of all the credible FE inventors used electron flow notation for a reason.

The first clue should have been that we can add (-) free electrons to a wire or subtract them from it but this is not true of the (+) charges or protons. Even a child should be able to understand this and yet many are still using the completely outdated standard form of notation. So it's important to understand the actual facts of a matter versus all the hearsay out there.

i have to say, 100% correct in my opinion  ;)

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This may be true of grade school level science but that's not what we are talking about here.
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In this case, you should not use the language of grade school level science. I responded to a specific point that I cited, see above, a statement that is a truism. And you respond to my message about something else, with a barrage of similar truisms that we all agree on, without addressing the specific objection I raised, while imagining that your response is relevant. I am past the age of listening to such truisms, as I have heard them so often before.



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Another interesting question is whether ideas can have properties ...or do properties exist only in the realm of objects (such as the temperature of water) ?

If space has properties such as geometric dimensionality, curvature and "locations" (which you have mentioned), does that mean that space is an object or an idea (like a geometric reference system) ?

As a farewell task, I would like you to consider the dimensions of energy and mass in terms of other concepts.
In English language the word "dimension" has several meanings. One is geometrical, others are not.
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In French too, exactly the same word, and the same meanings.

Objects/ideas, your discussion is becoming more philosophical than scientific. That's not a criticism, I'm interested in philosophy and I've been immersed in it for family reasons. I see it as a way of thinking about the world rationally on subjects that are beyond the reach of science, or rather “not yet within the reach of science.” So we don't know, but we try to reason logically about the hypotheses made about what we see or feel and don't know.

You will no doubt tell me that this is also partly true in science. That's true, but the difference is that in science, we also take the trouble to verify hypotheses through experiments and observations, whereas in philosophy, we would probably like to do the same, but we generally don't have the means to do so.
Once the verifications have been made, the hypotheses become knowledge that allows us to act on the world, knowledge that I would describe as such because it allows for operational results.

Returning to mass and space, the only thing that interests us from a scientific point of view is: “Does the model agree well with observations?”. The model can describe an idea in such a way as to make it operational. If the model describes mass with properties, then we can perform calculations and verify that the model works. Whether mass is an idea or an object is irrelevant; science simply needs to define the terms of its models so that we can use them in practice and compare them with what we observe.
Newtonian mechanics is a proven model of mass, as is relativity, which is more precise, and there is no reason to believe that in the future the best model will not be found in another theory, one that reconciles quantum mechanics and general relativity, for example, which are currently incompatible.

The idea of a reality underlying the model, which we had in the 19th century, is a philosophical idea, not a scientific one. We cannot know what “really” exists in the universe; we can only say that a model works (or does not work) to describe what we see. The objects defined in models should not be taken as real objects. They are descriptors. They can change as science evolves.

Sorry for this long preamble, but it is necessary to explain that when I make the distinction between energy and mass, I am only referring to objects in the model. Proper mass is an invariant. Energy is not an invariant; there is no kinetic energy in the reference frame of displacement, whereas there is indeed mass in its own reference frame. It is this difference that I was emphasizing; it is relative to the model and the objects in the model, not to real objects that we infer.


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i have to say, 100% correct in my opinion

I found much of FE is like the the standard vs electron flow problem.

How can one claim to understand electrical theory but still make an amateur mistake like thinking the (+) charges/protons are flowing in wires?. Yet I still see over 90% of people drawing basic circuit flows wrong. It's no wonder so few cannot make any progress when their basic premise of how a circuit actually works is flawed. To be clear, we are only talking about the flow of charges in a wire conductor and I realize (+) charges can flow in open circuits and fluid substances.

So I found most of FE tech is not some grand awakening or realization. More so finding all the false assumptions and mistakes made by mainstream science. I mean for 100 years most mistakenly thought the (+) charges were flowing in wires so we obviously still have a lot to learn. Here is a good example, https://scitechdaily.com/baffling-scientists-for-centuries-new-study-unravels-mystery-of-static-electricity/
So in fact, it's only recently that science figured out how something as simple as "static electricity" actually works. Most take it for granted that everything is supposedly known but that isn't even remotely true.

It's kind of comical, static electricity isn't static, has nothing to do with rubbing stuff together only contact, is not remotely uniform, more so a mosaic of individual surface charges clumped together. As well not only a charge transfer but charged material being transferred between objects. Ergo, what most people believed is in fact false. 


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How can one claim to understand electrical theory but still make an amateur mistake like thinking the (+) charges/protons are flowing in wires?. Yet I still see over 90% of people drawing basic circuit flows wrong. It's no wonder so few cannot make any progress when their basic premise of how a circuit actually works is flawed
Does that mean that conceptual correctness matters ? 
...or only mathematical correctness matters, ...like the proportions present in the Ohm's law, that is the foundation of electric circuit design ?
   
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