http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoISZAlFAc&feature=youtu.be
Here is another Wesley translation of an Akula vid [Akula #3]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xUjJjBUdwE
Thx
Chet
O0
Nice Tesla coil, is that all it is? I thought these guys were replicating Tariel Kapanadze devices. :-\
Edit: Just watched the second video, much more insightful, so he is replicating the TK device. I like the fact that he shut the power off to his whole house.
Grumage From OU .com
has done a replication here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Kv_ciCzQo
Duncan has this here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/14469-another-tks-apprentice-what-do-we-make-attempt.html#post240695
Thx
Chet
Akula0083 was supposedly lighting the same lamp setup without the T coil or a ground in previous videos.
So whats with the T coil and ground....one step backwards? That "ground" wire is always highly suspect. If it worked without it in prior video's why re-introduce it into his latest video?
Can someone explain what Wesley or Akula is trying to say? I can't make it out.
I'll give another look to see if any of it makes sense.
Edit Ok he's talking about two resonant circuits at least three control loops and "K" capture of electrons. This could explain the need for a ground. Akula's communication skills could be improved, he seems to have a nice lab and is good at electronic circuitry.
Here is the video that needs a translation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLlnHptTOk
Wesley translates another Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUxFuW3JYdY
Thanks
Chet
Here we go again. The thing is all taped up and we can't see.
One test would be to pull the wire off the pipe. If the lights go out then this holds some merit. If the lights stay on then there are batteries. Did he really turn it on with a 9vbat? No prestidigitation?
A few comments on video.
1) the ground wire is actually 2 wires. This could be a interlock loop that will interrupt operation if the wires are separated, proving to an audience that disconnecting the "ground wire" will cause the device will stop.
2) He seems to be connecting one of the wires to the back of the faucet before connecting the other to the front joint. Is there an insulated sleeve at the back of the faucet for the "juice". An unseen hot wire glued to the back of the pipe? An accomplice possibly energizes this wire from an unseen position at the appropriate time. The pipe is the cold return.
3) The lamps only run for about 6:18 starting at 1:20. Is this not possible with today's new LiPo batteries? how many watts are the lamps?
4) He should show the pair of wires twisted together before attachment and also show what happens when the wire is repeatedly touched to different sections of the ground pipe. Always a bit suspicious of grounds.
Are people compensated for the number of hits a youtube video gets once it qualifies for advertising?
QuoteAre people compensated for the number of hits a youtube video gets once it qualifies for advertising?
Yep. Google Adsense just paid $144.00 to me for doing nothing.
Quote from: ION on 2013.10.10, 13:50:10
A few comments on video.
1) the ground wire is actually 2 wires. This could be a interlock loop that will interrupt operation if the wires are separated, proving to an audience that disconnecting the "ground wire" will cause the device will stop.
2) He seems to be connecting one of the wires to the back of the faucet before connecting the other to the front joint. Is there an insulated sleeve at the back of the faucet for the "juice". An unseen hot wire glued to the back of the pipe? An accomplice possibly energizes this wire from an unseen position at the appropriate time. The pipe is the cold return.
3) The lamps only run for about 6:18 starting at 1:20. Is this not possible with today's new LiPo batteries? how many watts are the lamps?
4) He should show the pair of wires twisted together before attachment and also show what happens when the wire is repeatedly touched to different sections of the ground pipe. Always a bit suspicious of grounds.
Are people compensated for the number of hits a youtube video gets once it qualifies for advertising?
He could be using a two-wire trick here but i think its more likely lithium battery powered.
FE video faking is a lucrative way of earning from Youtube 'hits', especially when enhanced by us 'eyeballers' repeatedly running the videos through looking for signs of skulduggery.
From Hoppy:
QuoteFE video faking is a lucrative way of earning from Youtube 'hits', especially when enhanced by us 'eyeballers' repeatedly running the videos through looking for signs of skulduggery.
I usually download the video and frame step the images, so I don't give them the hits.
Lithium batteries, flatpacks from discarded cellphones, are easily sandwiched under the baseboard.
Looks like the "cargo cult" of TK "look alike" devices are ubiquitous.
A clear plexiglass base and getting rid of all that plastic wrap would be a step towards credulity.
Quote from: ION on 2013.10.11, 14:23:56
From Hoppy:
I usually download the video and frame step the images, so I don't give them the hits.
Yes, this is the sensible approach.
Its of note that all the similar devices being shown use filament lamps which present a resistive load well suited as a load to Royer type oscillators of the type we see on many of the circuit schematics. I have conducted a few experiments using a mosfet based Royer oscillator (Mazzilli variant) driving a Lasersaber Super Joule Ringer 3.0 style transformer. However, my version has bifilar primary winding of 80 turns, 1.5mm stranded electrical wire wound bifilar and the secondary winding of 600 turns of 0.32 swg ECW. The primary is wound on a 38mm plastic domestic waste pipe with the secondary wound as one layer on a cardboard tube that fits snugly into the plastic tube with virtually no air gap. The end of one 40-turn primary strand is connected to the start of the second 40-turn strand and this connection forms the centre tap for the oscillator output coil. The start and finish wires are terminated with four good quality 0.22uF polyprop caps in parallel to give a sinusoidal 26KHz, 132V pk-pk output waveform scoped across the caps. The load is a 230V, 60W bulb connected directly across the secondary winding. The performance of this setup is impressive and by far the most efficient and simple to construct inverter that I have built. Unlike Lasersaber, I use an air core with a larger diameter coil former, eliminating the need for ferrite rods or stacked toroidal cores.
My reason for describing this setup is I think Kapanadze and Akula may have built a very similar setup but on a much bigger scale using a thicker primary and secondary winding to power a heavier load. The Kapanadze multi-turn secondary winding maybe wound on top of an inner primary winding. The thick copper coil winding around the secondary maybe unnecessary to light the lamps but could be enhancing output by inducing spark-gap induced pulses into the secondary winding, or just to confuse measuring instruments! Yes, a lot of surmising, based on my belief that he has a concealed low voltage power supply to drive the oscillator. However, my approach to understand how Kapanadze / Akula 'did it' is to first get a lamp to light brightly using a look-alike coil arrangement and then work to get it self-running. :P
Wesley translates Vid #4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScXhI2hQawc
Thank you for taking the time to do this Wesley
Chet
Wesley translates
#5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHipGkfSAY
#6
No power input 700-1350 watts output?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I3zTd6S3v8&feature=youtu.be
and #7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFZX-zUYlmM
thank you Wesley
Chet
Wesley and T1000 examining the principle of the device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9KEBOC4coQ
thx
Chet
Wesley says its staring us in the face.............
"Quote"
what I suggest the most:
1 go to my first post that was saying about Mr King and Akula
2 read it.
3 go to my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS_CsCX2SHc&lch=email&lc=kVDLz5so32DjVj9GgaRRTtJ1gdPdgE9TW-QVTVoCm9U&feature=em-comment_received
9:27
4. go to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px14OF1D3EA
4:43
5.than go to Akula schematic
you have the same mechanism but made from electronic components.
6. forget about everything for the moment and go to my video again
and build it as you see it.
Remember in first Akula device there was no donut on the top
Remember in TK there was mostly no donut
but in tent it was..............
I did my part you do yours
can you?
Just take it for granted it is it
I already 'm being accused of stilling Akuas by some members of Russian movement.
If I would ever say anything ..........
at best of my believe we got TK by the balls...
Now I see all chain:
TK..SR.. Lithuania experiment( Wesley, Aidas, Arunas Gintas)...Tiger...Akula....
Wesley from 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn8TLBsR3r0
Wesley
adds more to the series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x67q0WOcXCg&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPAd-VTHjfs&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5NnXOHb0Jc&feature=youtu.be
thx
Chet
A word of caution guys,Akula has never shown
a device that can clearly show the absence of hidden wires,or batteries.
He seems to have copied Westleys yoke device,which was never shown to be overunity,and a health hazard.
Over here SM can not lie ,would not lie and wants you to make hes tpu,over there its,can't you see its
a Tesla invention,if it has coils, arcs,and a ground and farts its a Tesla invention.A lot of members
believe Tesla is a god and hero worship him.In particular the Russian members regard Tesla as a god,like a person that
hero worships superman,they think they can be superman by putting on a cape or making a fraud as in the case of Tesla.
All this massive confusion makes analyzing Tariels device difficult as you can not be objective hero worshiping.
Cp2012
I have to disagree with just one point you made, I agree with the rest of what you said but only to some degree.
QuoteOver here SM can not lie ,would not lie and wants you to make hes tpu
Steve Mark has
no interest in anyone building a TPU and left the scene in 1997 or thereabouts.
If he
sincerely had interest in desiring anyone to replicate the device it
surely would have been done by now.
Just about anyone with a moderate electronics or technician level expertise can fake a TPU demonstration for a brief youtube video. This is easily done. You are not alone in having done this.
But
ability of fakery is not necessarily
proof of fakery.
I have seen you on the OU forum calling people over here old and gullible. Some of us may be old, but still sharp as a tack and having the benefit of thousands of hours of bench time, which brings a certain wisdom and maybe not so gullible as you would think.
Your points have been well made over and over. Now lets get on with "the work".
When in a foreign land, good manners are also appropriate.
From Wesley
Quote
here is something that might help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEa_B-zYObc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_fTQvEnhvQ
Wesley
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thx
Chet
Wesley Tanslates [and comments]
Akula Number 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Nl6c7ZtS8&feature=youtu.be
thx
Chet
A happy new year vid from AKULA [via Wesley]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPJPPZLhsqY&feature=youtu.be
thx
Chet
PS
I do like Wesley's little Coleman Gelespi comment at the end ^-^
Wesley News: Vasmus Free Energy Generator
http://youtu.be/HUsdlnjfh9Y
New guy in FE movement
it is going to take about 20 minutes before link will be accesible
Wesley News;part #2 Vasmus Free Energy Device
http://youtu.be/cbKfS02_b5E
NOT READY YET to watch
give it about 30 minutes to show up
Wesley
I Believe there will be more!!
O0
There is a wall cord in the background.
Are any of these gents running appliances or tools from these devices, or just lamps and other resistive loads?
Consider this possible explanation:
1. it is the supercharging effect that Tesla initially noticed and that I mentioned in the TPU section recently
2. A core is nothing more than more metallic mass for more charge collection, not NMR or AMR
3. The switching element is after the large coil, so that the charge field develops around the large coil and core
4. I would think that the core would have to be magnetized or use more wire and no core
5. placing metal such as another coil in the charge field around the first coil will induce charge on the second coil
6. charge on the second coil can be passed through a load to ground
Wesley News; part#3 Vasmus Free Energy Device
http://youtu.be/7crLleJlMFM
Wesley News;part #4 Vasmus Free Energy Device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdAbFgroV70&feature=youtu.be
Wesley
Wesley News:part #5 Vasmus Free Energy Device
http://youtu.be/lCzZyB_UUMc
Wesley
something is UP??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MafbMtaCrN4&feature=youtu.be
That high frequency signal between the large excitation pulses looks interesting.
It could be a number of things, normal or abnormal, but he doesn't set up his scope to properly view it.
It would also be good to look at the actual output to the lamps.
Could it be:
1. parasitic low level FET or bjt oscillation
2. excitation of high frequency coils
3. pickup of nearby radio signals
4. other more exotic low level effect
By now I would guess a growing number of us are weary of these devices and the carnival, unscientific display of operation, wires hard to trace going everywhere.
Wesley News: ANONIM Free Energy Generator http://youtu.be/6oW3wCElMOw
Wesley News: Anonim Free energy Generator is the breaking news development 1200W with no power supply of any kind driving the device.I'm not endorsing it as of yet but it qualifies to be brought to attention of the public
Give it another 10 minutes before is ready to watch.
Wesley
EM
I suppose we shall see if this Armenian Movie maker can share a bit more of his methods in a future feature presentation?
"Wesley news" is doing some more investigating....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oW3wCElMOw
thx
Chet
from Wesley
http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=211.0
geophysics I was in this field when working with NASA programs as principal investigator the chief of scientific team. And with gold and cooper mining industry.
Murrary gold mine Elko, Nevada
Now I 'm trying to come back to some electromagnetic methods
what I found is that frequency of Anonim Free Energy Generator ( aquarium of TK too) was in did around 10Hz and that is the frequency of geophysical method and in this article they mention telluric current,........it is a puzzle Schumann Resonance 8.7Hz
all of that is
http://books.google.com/books?id=mRbUntHOr2IC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=electromagnetic+map+of+the+earth&source=bl&ots=ofnZI2UCun&sig=spZdQOJBd6tOzUBZ2KF8aVuToGM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0b-8UpqtJpOHkQfLnoD4Aw&ved=0CCsQ6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=electromagnetic%20map%20of%20the%20earth&f=false
so this is for whom who wants to help me out.
go to anything what says "electromagnetism of earth"
------------------------------------------
and for entertainment that what is below:
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/29jun_hiddenportals/
Wesley
Dear All.
Hot off the press from Akula0083 !! :)
http://realstrannik.ru/forum/48-temy-freeenergylt-antanasa/134551-akula0083-obshhaya-tema-1.html?start=1098#179420
Cheers Grum.
Dear Chet and All.
Akula0083's latest offering !! 80 W version.
Can anyone run a sim ??
The second schematic I have posted shares some similarities ?? I tried this earlier this year with a limited self run until the storage capacitor exploded violently, actually damaging my son and my frequency counter's front panel !! :)
Some of you might find this patent of interest !! http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=0de1c882bae3a5d7344e394b19608218&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F7679%2Fselfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze%2F20445%2F%23.Ur7oT3nuNaQ&v=1&libId=e9163dea-3b1d-4206-8c49-1af99be9d092&out=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fviewer%3Furl%3Dpatentimages.storage.googleapis.com%2Fpdfs%2FUS7973296.pdf&title=Selfrunning%20Free%20Energy%20devices%20up%20to%205%20KW%20from%20Tariel%20Kapanadze&txt=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fviewer%3Furl%3Dpatentimages.storage.googleapis.com%2Fpdfs%2FUS7973296.pdf&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_138824640478011
Cheers Grum.
Graham
This Patent has some bold claims ?
the last sentence in the abstract begs a bit more explanation/query?
If Two such coils are placed near each other they will create a extremely powerful electromagnetic field
which can promote chemical and plasma readtions involving charged particles such as Ions or plasma charged particles
possibly including nuclear fusion reactions
:o
@note
edited for image rename [wrong Patrick Kelly]
Quote from: Chet K on 2013.12.28, 16:49:48
This Patent has some bold claims,the attorney caught my eye ?
the last sentence in the abstract begs a bit more explanation/query?
Hi Chet K,
Can you upload a image that is larger than 138x178 pixels?
GL.
Dear Groundloop.
You can open the PDF I uploaded before Chet's post.
Cheers Grum.
GL
very odd when I saved that image from the PDF it copied very poorly?
I know some hosts {google] are shunned by some folks.
I will see if I can fix that with a better Venue?
thanks for looking
Chet
From Wesley news
http://youtu.be/rx8_DJr0TTg
or try
Wesley Translate's Akula video #12 Akula's TPU part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx8_DJr0TTg&feature=youtu.be
Electromagnetic Generator TPU That is different than Traditional Free Energy Akula concept.He presents 4 channels phase shifted generating PCB with /scope.
The concern is raised and reasoning is examined. Is similarity of both the major concern, or is that time factor concern for Akula to keep public interest till the next step. I'm positive that his device works.( the first one) I'm also trying to give little something about electrostatic pump concept.
Happy New Year
Quote from: Chet K on 2013.12.28, 17:08:39
I will see if I can fix that with a better Venue?
I use pat2pdf.org
Here it is:
http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl?number=7973296
Paul R
just so happens I have some searches to do for a water fuel project .[open source or course]
Thank you for taking the time to post that.
Chet
Wesley Translate's Akula video #13: Akula's TPU part 2 - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nqk8zkmYWQ&src_vid=rx8_DJr0TTg&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_555348617
The video that was first of series of Akula TPU is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx8_DJr0TTg
My personal opinion:
I'm kind of confused with Akula's shift from working over 1kW device to TPU.
I know THAT HIS DEVICE WAS WORKING AS DESIRED.
But had a problem:
I mentioned that problem twice in video #13( first link)
I think Akula is trying to apply to protect his intellectual property. He does not know how to deal with Geo-dependency of his first working model.
He does not want to lose the public.
He would like to cash-out his device but again without patent there is no buyer with big money.
He also does not know how to make TPU but he triggered public response and he is using that knowledge to try to understand phenomena he achieved.
Another way to say it , He is using public response for his own race for fame , money, recognition, position or one of the above.
As intelligent and bright person, if he would not be able to sale it, he would be happy to be a hero who give it to humanity, but that would be his last option to chose from.
He is waiting for window of opportunity that will bring him something new and patentable in the mess of information already published or previously patented.
He also does not know hot to make TPU but he triggered public response and he is using that knowledge to try to understand phenomena he achieved.
He is waiting for window of opportunity that will bring him something new and patentable in the mess of information already published or previously patented.
That is primary requirement for qualification in patent rights protection.
Wesley
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Duncan
I see your post below ,I fixed the links
Thx
Chet K
Dear All.
Here is the latest offering from Alula0083.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVTKRLWAo_c
Now IMHO this is NOT a TPU in the sense of the word !! I think it is more closely related to the schematic posted below.
T-1000 is in sporadic contact with Roman and has said that he has moved on from his earlier "Electrostatic" devices because they are highly sensitive to geographic placement !! T-1000 also relays the fact that the above device runs at a very high frequency and transistors are a very fickle part !!
Cheers Grum.
Grum
Thanks for posting that link from AKULA..
I had not seen that one!
@Duncan
This thread is really just for Member Stivep's [Wesely} contributions,He takes the time [lots of time] to interpret Vids that he has more than a casual intererest in.[and at times a repore with the inventors]
He is truly dedicated to his cause [our cause].
and I have nothing but Gratitude for that...........
this Latest Akula device seems most interesting I hope its not just an antenae for man made ambient .
thx
Chet
;D consider it gone ! I should be winding coils instead of being a smart arse anyway! :)
Wesley News part #7 Vasmus Free Energy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMxQRTm1B0
Quote from: Chet K on 2014.01.20, 02:01:19
Wesley News part #7 Vasmus Free Energy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMxQRTm1B0
High capacity flat battery pack under top plastic sheet??
Hoopy
Ya another battery powered device, if it were real ,he would have set it up differently,it doesn't take a lot to do a video where at least you could say it has a chance of being real.These guys post these frauds to show there smart.If it arc's,has coils,a ground and farts its a Tesla invention. O0
Quote from: cheappower2012 on 2014.01.20, 09:49:47
Hoopy
Ya another battery powered device, if it were real ,he would have set it up differently,it doesn't take a lot to do a video where at least you could say it has a chance of being real.These guys post these frauds to show there smart.If it arc's,has coils,a ground and farts its a Tesla invention. O0
Agreed. It strikes me that the game here is to raise as many 'hits' as possible.
Hits? And why not? It buys equipment and inventory...
If anyone has every done a dog and pony show they seen the guys like Durban. Peeps that talk it all up like they are the reps. I can not stand these types. They believe they should make money just because they've seen it.
So an alternative effort is better. No patent, no publishing, no board of exiles, Nada. Push it out there and change the world. Accept no payments, no tariffs, no taxes. Ride a different merry go round. Then if one can not be bought then Martyrdom?
Dear All.
It seems that Akula0083 has posted yet another video of his device running inside a Microwave oven !! However I found the video had been banned here due to some sort of copyright infringement !!
Attached is the schematic for this device. Is anyone able to try a "sim" on it ??
Cheers Grum.
Grum
Can you post the link here ?
it may work in other countries.
thx
Chet
Quote from: Chet K on 2014.01.22, 12:45:02
Grum
Can you post the link here ?
it may work in other countries.
thx
Chet
Dear Chet.
Here is the link....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmsst5-HfIo
Cheers Grum.
Grum
Sigh..................
yes there is a battery [itty bitty] :P
Only he just uses it to start ,
Plus he plays the music from Ghost buster sound track [nice but bad for copywrite infringement, Sanz Banned in overly
watched areas of the world [coming soon to everywhere I am sure]
Ask him to drop the Music so others can watch too.......and of course he'll get all that Phat Utube Hits cash money
who knows maybe he can buy a stick of gum with all that Muuhla....
or a marble ,maybe a few thumb tacks??
yeah livin large
NAH.... I don't think he's doing it for the U Tube money
Thx
Chet
PS
Maybe He would get involved in a replication? [If we build it he will Come??]
Quote from: EMdevices on 2014.01.25, 04:23:22
Seems to be a rather powerful "joule thief" circuit
Dear EMdevices.
I have similar thoughts !!
I have attached the schematic. But as usual no details as regards core material turns etc. !! What is interesting though is that single ended coil. I am told that the device runs at 1.7 MHz so some electrostatic collection could be going on ??
Cheers Grum.
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.01.25, 15:10:56
Dear EMdevices.
I have similar thoughts !!
I have attached the schematic. But as usual no details as regards core material turns etc. !! What is interesting though is that single ended coil. I am told that the device runs at 1.7 MHz so some electrostatic collection could be going on ??
Cheers Grum.
I have been studying this circuit and find it quite ingenious and I would say, without building it, that it works as stated. I have not been able to see the video, do you or can you get a still shot of the coil setup? I presume they are all wound on one former, and air core due to frequency.
I can see how he is creating "multiple noise" if I can use that term, to create "volume" without increasing input. The open end coil is the feed back only to trigger the NPN transistor, which in turn triggers the two PNP transistors. The four coils in series is the key, inducing multiple frequencies into the other long coil "noise". Each coil in the series is in itself, by the way they are wound, an RLC emanating a frequency and inducing into the long coil which will be picking up 5 frequencies (a mixer) the volume of which combined will be greater than that of each individual. To sum up, the gain comes from the eather between the four coils and the long coil. The 1000uf cap must be a very low ESR and is the collector of the excess power and keeps the system running when the battery is disconnected. The fourth led to the base of the PNP he has placed to control the runaway in the system and I presume each led to be high power 250mw (hence 1 watt).
My two pence worth after a lot of looking at the circuit, I think it is very worth while building. I do not think the number of turns of the coils is very important, only the ratio, it should work at other frequencies as it is based on noise volume increase through the eather. The four coils in series are all equal, as in STEAP, and works on the same principle O0
regards
Mike 8)
Quote from: Centraflow on 2014.01.26, 11:10:13
I have been studying this circuit and find it quite ingenious and I would say, without building it, that it works as stated. I have not been able to see the video, do you or can you get a still shot of the coil setup? I presume they are all wound on one former, and air core due to frequency.
I can see how he is creating "multiple noise" if I can use that term, to create "volume" without increasing input. The open end coil is the feed back only to trigger the NPN transistor, which in turn triggers the two PNP transistors. The four coils in series is the key, inducing multiple frequencies into the other long coil "noise". Each coil in the series is in itself, by the way they are wound, an RLC emanating a frequency and inducing into the long coil which will be picking up 5 frequencies (a mixer) the volume of which combined will be greater than that of each individual. To sum up, the gain comes from the eather between the four coils and the long coil. The 1000uf cap must be a very low ESR and is the collector of the excess power and keeps the system running when the battery is disconnected. The fourth led to the base of the PNP he has placed to control the runaway in the system and I presume each led to be high power 250mw (hence 1 watt).
My two pence worth after a lot of looking at the circuit, I think it is very worth while building. I do not think the number of turns of the coils is very important, only the ratio, it should work at other frequencies as it is based on noise volume increase through the eather. The four coils in series are all equal, as in STEAP, and works on the same principle O0
regards
Mike 8)
Dear Mike.
Well that was more like £2.00 worth rather than pence !! :) And worth every penny !! I wish I had better electronic skills !!
But seriously, I spoke with T-1000 last night and he also had similar thoughts !!
Our East European friends have been " At it " again !! What do you all think of this ?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73ERCA65FB0
I t begs the question why are they so far ahead ??
Cheers Graham.
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.01.25, 15:10:56
Dear EMdevices.
I have similar thoughts !!
I have attached the schematic. But as usual no details as regards core material turns etc. !! What is interesting though is that single ended coil. I am told that the device runs at 1.7 MHz so some electrostatic collection could be going on ??
Cheers Grum.
Graham,
Do you have a higher resolution of this circuit drawing? One where the resistor values can be read?
I can't access the video link.
Attached is my drawing of the posted circuit.
Thanks,
GL.
Grum's
you are talking with T-1000? is he based in UK? I take some Russo's with a pinch of salt, but some are good, why? because there are some very good scientists whom have been sat on for a long time, now they are coming out of the wood, so to say ;)
The other thing is they are taking the China way, look at others and copy, then claim it is theirs. But I think this guy is good, I have not looked at his other more complicated circuits, but if they are on par with this one then I should. This one is not new in how it is OU, this goes back to Stiffler and ecat and steap mjn, they are one of the same with a Little circuit difference.
Here is STEAP, this has a core "ferrite" saturates @4.3khz and the coil is separate to the four coils in the form of a trafo, the multiple frequencies are produced by parametrics as opposed to winding all coils together, this new circuit is a new twist to create the frequencies, I like it very much because it also creates it's own switching, STEAP needs an external trigger @ 4.3khz.
Here is also a S A shot of my latest work on STEAP @ elf frequencies self running by using a reed switch to self trigger and running off caps pre charged to 9v and not a battery, the circuit is totally passive, note the multiple frequencies and their power, this is the "volume" I talk about, note the voltage, this is on the primary side of the trafo, the secondary has an OPEN voltage of around 1200v. I am not at the moment prepared to show this publicly until I have everything 100% as I want, so don't ask. :P
Grum, if you can find a pic of the coil setup as I asked before, it would be much appreciated ;) I will then probably build this, coil winding I hate, so I want to get this right first off :)
regards
Mike 8)
Quote from: Groundloop on 2014.01.26, 15:50:03
Graham,
Do you have a higher resolution of this circuit drawing? One where the resistor values can be read?
I can't access the video link.
Attached is my drawing of the posted circuit.
Thanks,
GL.
GL
I can't stress the importance of the 4 coils in series, not how you have drawn it in your diagram ;) that will never work, it is like a poly phasing transformer. Also not sure about the ferrite, depends on the frequency design "coil length".
regards
Mike 8)
Quote from: Centraflow on 2014.01.26, 16:06:00
GL
I can't stress the importance of the 4 coils in series, not how you have drawn it in your diagram ;) that will never work, it is like a poly phasing transformer. Also not sure about the ferrite, depends on the frequency design "coil length".
regards
Mike 8)
Mike,
Yes I know. I just did a redraw so that I could understand how the circuit operate.
My final implementation will be something like the attached.
GL.
Quote from: Groundloop on 2014.01.26, 15:50:03
Graham,
Do you have a higher resolution of this circuit drawing? One where the resistor values can be read?
I can't access the video link.
Attached is my drawing of the posted circuit.
Thanks,
GL.
Dear Groundloop.
Sorry no, I grabbed the schematic that was taken from a screen shot posted by a member of OU. Com.
Chet was able to view the video though. I wonder if he could get us a better view ??
Cheers Graham.
Quote from: Groundloop on 2014.01.26, 16:11:37
Mike,
Yes I know. I just did a redraw so that I could understand how the circuit operate.
My final implementation will be something like the attached.
GL.
GL nice work and quick, looks like you will have this up and running before me O0 I would think that the 4 coils in series are around 25 turns each, the 5th coil 200 turns, the 6th open end around 100 turns as it is only feed back trigger "may be less". As I have asked (not seen the video) I would like to see a photo of the coils :)
Regards
Mike 8)
I thought I would post this here as I think it applies.
The latests in crowd control is using sound waves, this is exactly what I was talking about before and volume
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device
Mike 8)
Quote from: Centraflow on 2014.01.26, 15:59:13
Grum's
you are talking with T-1000? is he based in UK? I take some Russo's with a pinch of salt, but some are good, why? because there are some very good scientists whom have been sat on for a long time, now they are coming out of the wood, so to say ;)
The other thing is they are taking the China way, look at others and copy, then claim it is theirs. But I think this guy is good, I have not looked at his other more complicated circuits, but if they are on par with this one then I should. This one is not new in how it is OU, this goes back to Stiffler and ecat and steap mjn, they are one of the same with a Little circuit difference.
Here is STEAP, this has a core "ferrite" saturates @4.3khz and the coil is separate to the four coils in the form of a trafo, the multiple frequencies are produced by parametrics as opposed to winding all coils together, this new circuit is a new twist to create the frequencies, I like it very much because it also creates it's own switching, STEAP needs an external trigger @ 4.3khz.
Here is also a S A shot of my latest work on STEAP @ elf frequencies self running by using a reed switch to self trigger and running off caps pre charged to 9v and not a battery, the circuit is totally passive, note the multiple frequencies and their power, this is the "volume" I talk about, note the voltage, this is on the primary side of the trafo, the secondary has an OPEN voltage of around 1200v. I am not at the moment prepared to show this publicly until I have everything 100% as I want, so don't ask. :P
Grum, if you can find a pic of the coil setup as I asked before, it would be much appreciated ;) I will then probably build this, coil winding I hate, so I want to get this right first off :)
regards
Mike 8)
Dear Mike.
Yes I am in almost weekly contact with T-1000 via Skype. He has a brilliantly quick mind !! He lives down in London area !!
I have attached a link to all of Akula's videos.. https://plus.google.com/103786798661176900671/posts I think one of them contains the coil construction details. It may even be similar to a TPU but coreless !!
cheers Graham.
Graham
I am trying to see about getting this Vid to a format which you can see [I asked for some help]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmsst5-HfIo
It is the same device as this Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmnUjdV4iFI [can you see this one ?]
thx
Chet
Seems I need a host for this
I am told however if you download a "Tor brouser' [AN ANONYMOUS HOST SERVICE] it will alow access?
Quote from: Chet K on 2014.01.26, 17:27:33
Graham
I am trying to see about getting this Vid to a format which you can see [I asked for some help]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmsst5-HfIo
It is the same device as this Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmnUjdV4iFI [can you see this one ?]
thx
Chet
Chet,
It is not the same video. I managed to download the "blocked" video.
In the beginning of the video he is filming the computer screen showing the circuit drawing.
But the resolution is so low that the component values can not be seen.
I have studied both videos. The circuit drawing shows three transistors used. But in
the videos there is only two transistors as far as I can tell. Also in the circuit
drawing there is four resistors, but in the videos I can only see one resistor.
Why can't those "guys" post some clear circuit drawings and coil details?
EDIT ADDED: I have now studied the first video (the "blocked" one) and I can
indeed see all the correct components on the device as shown in the circuit drawing.
So in the next video he most probably did modify the devise a bit.
GL.
GL & Chet
can you post that video some place so as I can see it? or copy it? Thanks Chet, I am down loading that now, but not the same!!!! so GL states. I will look closer when I have time.
regards
Mike 8)
Dear All.
Would this work ??
Cheers Graham.
Dear Chet.
With regard to our telephone conversation I have attached a link to OU.Com. This should give direct access to the video in question.
http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg385000/#msg385000
http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg385021/#msg385021
But please read on everyone further down are the schematics for the device in question !!
Cheers Graham.
Quote from: Centraflow on 2014.01.26, 17:49:10
GL & Chet
can you post that video some place so as I can see it? or copy it? Thanks Chet, I am down loading that now, but not the same!!!! so GL states. I will look closer when I have time.
regards
Mike 8)
Mike,
Posted here: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2329.new#new
(The video is must be unpacked with WinRar before viewing, found here: http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm )
You will need VLC media player to see the video, VLC found here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
GL.
Thanks GL, got it.
Seems that he made modes to the circuit, but basicly the same
regards
Mike 8)
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.01.26, 17:52:28
Dear All.
Would this work ??
Cheers Graham.
çGrum, I will have to think about this one, the square wave gen, what it might be!!
regards
Mike 8)
Quote from: Centraflow on 2014.01.26, 18:39:55
çGrum, I will have to think about this one, the square wave gen, what it might be!!
regards
Mike 8)
Mike,
The block in the circuit diagram marked "G" is like this attachment.
GL
Quote from: Groundloop on 2014.01.26, 18:47:20
Mike,
The block in the circuit diagram marked "G" is like this attachment.
GL
Are you sure about that? where did you get the circuit from?
regards
Mike 8)
GL
I will have to look at that more, using a PWM control chip of this standard in relation to the circuit posted, hmmm
regards
Mike 8)
Quote from: Centraflow on 2014.01.26, 19:03:38
Are you sure about that? where did you get the circuit from?
regards
Mike 8)
Mike,
He did post this circuit in his former 30 Watt circuit drawing on a Russian forum.
Then he posted the 60 and 80 Watt version. He was probably lazy and did use the
same oscillator (as I posted) in the new version, but on the new version drawing he
did just draw a block "G" to show the oscillator. The AUX in my drawing was
not used in the 30 Watt version. But in the 60 and 80 Watt version he added a
transistor and did use the AUX to drive that transistor. All three versions attached.
Also attached the coil design he uses.
GL.
Wesley has translated the new Guys Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n22MNKrusA&feature=youtu.be
thx
Chet
Dear All.
This cropped up on OU.Com.
Groundloop here are your component values !! :)
But no coil data other than the fact that it looks to have similarities to Otto !! ;)
Cheers Grum.
Dear All.
A slightly cleaner view !! :)
Cheers Grum.
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.01.26, 23:29:37
Dear All.
A slightly cleaner view !! :)
Cheers Grum.
Grum,
Thanks. :-)
GL.
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.01.26, 22:43:34
Dear All.
This cropped up on OU.Com.
Groundloop here are your component values !! :)
But no coil data other than the fact that it looks to have similarities to Otto !! ;)
Cheers Grum.
Grum,
The coil drawing in your first picture differs from the coils in the video.
It will be impossible to replicate this circuit without any information on what the coil design are.
GL.
Quote from: Groundloop on 2014.01.27, 07:42:40
Grum,
The coil drawing in your first picture differs from the coils in the video.
It will be impossible to replicate this circuit without any information on what the coil design are.
GL.
Yes I must agree, L1 is not @ 90 degrees I think or he would have shown this another way. To run L1 as the core in 4 parts connected in series just makes no sense to me
regards
Mike 8)
I understand that L1 is a copper or aluminium tape like coil with 4 turns on a 12 cm former.
90 degrees on that are wrapped L2 and L3 normal wire coils.
Regards Itsu
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.01.27, 09:12:50
I understand that L1 is a copper or aluminium tape like coil with 4 turns on a 12 cm former.
90 degrees on that are wrapped L2 and L3 normal wire coils.
Regards Itsu
Then this is á la SM as people "envisage" with a core coil, the four individual coils in the diagram meant to depict the four turns!
I really do think there is a lot of misinformation going on. Where did the idea of the core in the SM tpu's come from to start with? somebody's idea that it has to be like that to get rotation? it's been going on for years and years about this core coil, was it SM who said it was like that?
I'm open to anything "if" there is a strong support argument O0
regards
Mike 8)
P S. I personally am in favour by 80:20 of multiple frequency induction, possibly in the low audio range (bass sub hearing level), which is why the SM tpu vibrated. Well wasn't SM a speaker specialist? begs to think more of the man's background and how he stumbled onto this, think about what I posted on crowd control weapon, timing, dates etc!!!!
well, I think it is simple to grasp now...however not simple to make working device :-X
it's all about generating radio waves but not letting them to escape but catch and use to rise current
ever heard about a simple wire sparking on itself (end to end) nearby the radio transmitter ? :D
Dear All.
Yes, there definitively is an error between the two schematics shown, however a close scrutiny of the video pictures and the diameter given in that hand drawn schematic should give enough clues to wind the coil !!
I have attached a PDF of Otto's work and I see a close resemblance !! I even managed to successfully replicate the coil kick from page 9.
From that, I carried out further tests with a Torroidal transformer. I used a 12/12 to 240 V off the shelf transformer. I attached the output from a 12 V to 240 V cheapo inverter, the live to the start of one 12 v leg and the neutral to its opposite 12 v leg. Leaving open ends.
In other words, there was no closed circuit. I then attached a FWBR to the 240 v winding and was surprised to see a capacitor on the DC side charge up readily !! This situation did not occur with a sinus signal but the effect was seen, if driven by the square wave output from the inverter.
In short, noise can make voltage !! I think Mag's has also been looking at this phenomenon too. Using a higher frequency than mine??
Cheers Grum.
Wesley
Translates Vasmus Number 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e92yz5Y1img#t=1
I toke a shot at this Akula 1W selfrunner circuit.
I know there are a lot of unknowns like transistors/diodes used and more important the construction of the 3 way coil.
At the end of the video there you can see how i think the coil could have been made.
Transistors/diodes used up till now:
NPN: 2N3055
2n2222a
mje13009
mje3055
mje13007
PNP: bc557
2n5401
2n2905
diodes: UF4007
1n4004
1n4148
The R1 resistor is shown as 56K, but in other diagrams (see further back in this thread), it is shown as 100Ohm. I tried both.
There are no oscillations going when feeding with 3V, also quick switching on/off does not trigger anything special.
Video here: http://youtu.be/BdiTVJXMVTI
Perhaps i will have to redo the coil, putting more turns for L1 (like 4x 5 turns) to get the frequency down as it now resonates around 2.9MHz
Regards Itsu
itsu
thank you for sharing your efforts here.
your Youtube link does not go thru.
Thx
Chet
PS
Heh heh I see Grumage same request 30 secs later
silver medal......... :D [sigh ......Olympics fever ]
Dear Itsu.
I can't seem to open the link to your video.
Could you try re posting the link please??
Cheers Grum.
BTW. A little bird told me the device runs around 1.7 MHz !! ;)
Sorry guys, not sure what happened, but it should be corrected now.
Yes, i saw that frequency mentioned before (1.7MHz), so that's perhaps something to tune for.
Any chance that little bird can tell us more?
I contacted Akula on an Email address i had, but after 3 days no reponse, so no little bird overhere ;D
Regards Itsu
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.10, 08:50:55
Sorry guys, not sure what happened, but it should be corrected now.
Yes, i saw that frequency mentioned before (1.7MHz), so that's perhaps something to tune for.
Any chance that little bird can tell us more?
I contacted Akula on an Email address i had, but after 3 days no reponse, so no little bird overhere ;D
Regards Itsu
Itsu,
I did see your video, great work. But I think that you should try
a coil more like the one in the videos. The coils are wound ALL the same
direction. There are 4 coils outside the 2 inner coils. The 4 coils are
connected in series.
GL.
Quote from: Groundloop on 2014.02.10, 13:40:25
Itsu,
I did see your video, great work. But I think that you should try
a coil more like the one in the videos. The coils are wound ALL the same
direction. There are 4 coils outside the 2 inner coils. The 4 coils are
connected in series.
GL.
Hi Groundloop,
thanks for the comment, you could be right, but are you sure?
I mean, look at the drawing, does it not show that L1 is 90 degrees of from L2/L3?
Thanks, regards Itsu
Dear Itsu.
IMO the coils are miss identified !! I think that L1 and L3 are inverted. I wonder if the single ended coil that is wound around the circumference of the former acts as an antenna? Possibly to a length or fraction thereof of the wavelength of the frequency ??
I really do commend you for your work, I wish I was better at the electronic stuff !!
Cheers Grum.
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.02.10, 14:26:29
Dear Itsu.
IMO the coils are miss identified !! I think that L1 and L3 are inverted. I wonder if the single ended coil that is wound around the circumference of the former acts as an antenna? Possibly to a length or fraction thereof of the wavelength of the frequency ??
I really do commend you for your work, I wish I was better at the electronic stuff !!
Cheers Grum.
Hi Grum,
i am not sure i can follow you, what do you mean by "inverted"?
L3 is the single ended coil, so it can not be swapped (inverted?) by the L1 coil :o
L3 is what i call the feedback coil and it will trigger the NPN transistor.
These pictures are similar as the hand drawn circuit (contains the 100 Ohm instead of 56K R4) and depicts the L1 coil as Groundloop suggests:
Regards itsu
Also, when looking at this snapshot taken from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_v0EHUYzYQ
i think i can see a (red/brown) capacitor at the top.
But there is no capacitor other then the elco visible in the diagrams. :D
Regards Itsu
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.10, 13:46:39
Hi Groundloop,
thanks for the comment, you could be right, but are you sure?
I mean, look at the drawing, does it not show that L1 is 90 degrees of from L2/L3?
Thanks, regards Itsu
Itsu,
If you look at the other drawings and videos form the same guy, then it is quite possible that he
reused the coil form earlier projects. One of his projects was a 4 coil switch. So I think that it is
likely that he did use that coil. If you wind all the coils in the same direction around your coil
form, then I think the circuit will oscillate OK.
GL.
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.10, 15:16:38
Also, when looking at this snapshot taken from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_v0EHUYzYQ
i think i can see a (red/brown) capacitor at the top.
But there is no capacitor other then the elco visible in the diagrams. :D
Regards Itsu
Itsu,
If you look at the two "self run" videos then you will see that there are two different circuits.
The first video has all the components as posted in the circuit diagram plus the capacitor that
you noticed. In the second video there was only two transistors and fewer components. So
he did change the actual circuit in the video but did not update the circuit drawing, as far
as I know. So I have some doubt about the self run part.
GL.
Dear Itsu.
My apologies, having re read my post I can see the ambiguity !! :-[
The way I see it is that L1 is the 4 section set of coils that are wound the same as you would a toroid. L3 is the circumferential single ended winding underneath L1 and L2. As I stated in my earlier post I wonder if this circumferential coil is to a length that corresponds to a fraction of the operating frequency ?? ;)
Cheers Grum.
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.02.10, 17:02:55
Dear Itsu.
My apologies, having re read my post I can see the ambiguity !! :-[
The way I see it is that L1 is the 4 section set of coils that are wound the same as you would a toroid. L3 is the circumferential single ended winding underneath L1 and L2. As I stated in my earlier post I wonder if this circumferential coil is to a length that corresponds to a fraction of the operating frequency ?? ;)
Cheers Grum.
Hi Grum,
thanks for clarifying, i see what you mean now.
That would be a 3th option to wind this coil :D
Concerning the length of a wire when wound in a coil, this will no longer follow the rule for wavelength like it does for like an antenna,
but it very well could pick up enough energy to trigger the NPN transistor, only the idea of winding it circumferentially escapes me (which is nothing new by the way :) ).
Lets see what i can do with those winding options, thanks.
Regards Itsu
I used L1 (the circumferential wound 4-part coil) as L3 with one side left open and L3 as L1.
But even using severall different transistors again, no oscillations are noted.
I will wind a new coil like Groundloop suggested with all 3 coils wound the same way.
Not sure how to implement the 4 parts of the L1 coil as simply connecting them in series does not make any sense.
Perhaps i should crossover the severall series parts so that it kind of "hops" around if you see what i mean.
Regards itsu
New coil on new former, all 3 coils (L1, L2 and L3) in same direction/plane.
L1 consists of 4 parts, presently all 4 in series in a normal sequence (eg 1,2,3,4)
No oscillations noted when powering with 3V and using severall transistors/diodes/coil connections.
Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crlOMx6cqb0&feature=youtu.be
Next i will try to change the L1 sequence, like: 1,3,2,4 etc.
Regards Itsu
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.10, 15:16:38
I think i can see a (red/brown) capacitor at the top.
...or even two of them.
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.12, 11:03:27
No oscillations noted when powering with 3V and using severall transistors/diodes/coil connections.
I don't understand how this circuit is supposed to oscillate, but if it does oscillate in the MHz range then your long and coiled "alligator wires" present a high impedance at such frequencies (e.g. at 2MHz that calculates to: 12.6Ω for each 1μH ).
Quote from: verpies on 2014.02.12, 14:32:00
I don't understand how this circuit is supposed to oscillate, but if it does oscillate in the MHz range then your long and coiled "alligator wires" present a high impedance at such frequencies (e.g. at 2MHz that calculates to: 12.6Ω for each 1μH ).
Thanks verpies,
point well taken.
I have eliminated those "alligator wires", see picture, however, no oscillations still.
Manipulating the L1 4-part coil sequence now......
Regards Itsu
After playing around with this circuit for the last 2 days, no oscillations are noted when powered with ±3V.
When feeding L3 with my SG (with and without power on the circuit), i see the leds being lit at specific
power levels (from my SG i mean, like 5V pp sign wave) and frequencies like 2.9MHz and around 5.7MHz and 9MHz.
Probing around with the scope in this situation shows a complicated combination of ac peaks and DC level fluctuation around the 3 leds.
None of them sustain when disconnecting the SG.
Trying to get the circuit oscillating by connecting a capacitor (severall values at severall places (base/collector of the transistors f.i.)
are not successful.
So this circuit seems to be a non oscillator, strongly pointing to a DC power component as being the source of the leds being lit.
Regards Itsu
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.14, 10:06:51
After playing around with this circuit for the last 2 days, no oscillations are noted when powered with ±3V.
Perhaps a detailed circuit analysis would reveal the needed conditions for it to support oscillations when C1 is charged.
...including capacitive coupling between windings
The attempts so far have been oblivious to transistor bias points, voltage drops, transconductances and betas, signal polarities, RL constants and capacitive couplings.
Right, that's where the EE's should step in in my opinion.
Regards itsu
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.14, 12:00:06
Right, that's where the EE's should step in in my opinion.
Regards itsu
Dear Itsu and the EE's.
Just a slight lateral think thing !! Could this device be a compact Slayer type device ?? I have attached a circuit below that might help in getting the device to oscillate if nothing else !!
Let us consider the circumferential winding to be L2 ( Tesla style primary ). Wound over and at 90 deg to, is L1 ( A lot more turns secondary ).
Finally the third coil wound over the other two as a pickup coil with suitable Diodes / Transistors to feed back to the start capacitor.
IMO I think this coil we see was a failed attempt at a TPU but Roman found a way to make it into something else that worked !!
Ok I think I have travelled sideways enough. ;D Thoughts anyone ??
Cheers Grum.
Hi Grum,
i used my earlier coil with L1 circular around the former (4x3= 12 turns thick wire)
and wrapped about 600 turns small diameter magnet wire around it as L2
Then topped it of with about 120 turns speaker wire as L3 (pickup coil).
The picture shows the magnet wire shining through the speaker wire.
But again no oscillations noted using the Akula 1W circuit.
Perhaps i should use your (or Slayers) circuit to see if it will produce any RF.
Thanks, regards Itsu
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.16, 20:20:23
Hi Grum,
i used my earlier coil with L1 circular around the former (4x3= 12 turns thick wire)
and wrapped about 600 turns small diameter magnet wire around it as L2
Then topped it of with about 120 turns speaker wire as L3 (pickup coil).
The picture shows the magnet wire shining through the speaker wire.
But again no oscillations noted using the Akula 1W circuit.
Perhaps i should use your (or Slayers) circuit to see if it will produce any RF.
Thanks, regards Itsu
Dear Itsu.
WOW!! Now that's a coil !!
You have come this far so why not try the Slayer oscillator? You just never know !!
The Scheme reminds me of one of Don Smith's set ups where he had a single central transmitter and four pickup coils at 90 deg spacing !! Sorry more lateral thinking. Must have been a Crab in a former life !! ;D
Oh BTW, am I allowed to use the DS words ?? There seems to be some sort of taboo regarding that other Guy, you know ***n *****I !! :)
Cheers Grum.
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.02.16, 20:47:42
You have come this far so why not try the Slayer oscillator? You just never know !!
Ok, i did, and it works alright when using the L2 (600 turns) and the L3 (120 turns).
It oscillates at 480KHz with 60V pp on the open end.
When i use my L1 coil (12 turns circumferential) to drive it, no dice, not even when i lower the 51K resistor.
Regards Itsu
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.16, 21:34:50
Ok, i did, and it works alright when using the L2 (600 turns) and the L3 (120 turns).
It oscillates at 480KHz with 60V pp on the open end.
When i use my L1 coil (12 turns circumferential) to drive it, no dice, not even when i lower the 51K resistor.
Regards Itsu
Dear Itsu.
Just been listening to the strains of ELO one of my favourite bands !! 60 V p/p, well as dear Verpies always says it's not the volts that matter !! So phase 2 can it self power an LED ??
Back to you !!
Cheers Grum.
The thing runs at 3V / 10mA including the green led that's normally in the circuit.
When attaching a red led to the open end to ground, it lights up depending on how its connected, cathode to ground dimly, pulling even less current,
anode to ground very bright, pulling 1A :o (not for a very long time i guess).
Ok, enough for today.
Regards Itsu
Pictures tell so much more then words, especially moving pictures, so here a video of some testing with this slayer circuit.
First i hooked up the coils of an old kacher oscillator showing the signals coming from that.
Then i hooked up my coil from yesterday and show the same signals.
Not sure where it ties in with the akula replication attempt, but hey, i was stuck on that one anyhow.
Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2PtZUeaz88&feature=youtu.be
Regards Itsu
Dear Itsu.
With regards to my suggestion, dear Wattsup placed a nicely drawn schematic on Giantkillers thread.
Here it is.
Cheers Grum.
Thanks Grum,
that's easy enough ;)
Regards Itsu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOepViJhHTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hf3SKcn4OI&feature=youtu.be
Hello Chet,
after watching this video I was studying the different chemical products formed by this process.
Now Ketene is the one which can be dangerous as it is changing fast to Diketene ( first paragraph here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diketene (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diketene).
Now the problem with Diketene I found described only in the german wikipedia here:
https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDiketen (https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDiketen)
Another name for Diketene is shown at the top right side in the "General"-Column, line "other names" = 4-methylene-2-oxetanone
At he the end of of the page , topic " Safety" you please pay attention to the explosive character of 4-methylene-2-oxetanone mixed with air
Regards
Mike
Stuff that big capacitor can full of button-cell batteries and then it will work.
Quote from: Itsu on 2014.02.14, 10:06:51
After playing around with this circuit for the last 2 days, no oscillations are noted when powered with ±3V.
When feeding L3 with my SG (with and without power on the circuit), i see the leds being lit at specific
power levels (from my SG i mean, like 5V pp sign wave) and frequencies like 2.9MHz and around 5.7MHz and 9MHz.
Probing around with the scope in this situation shows a complicated combination of ac peaks and DC level fluctuation around the 3 leds.
None of them sustain when disconnecting the SG.
Trying to get the circuit oscillating by connecting a capacitor (severall values at severall places (base/collector of the transistors f.i.)
are not successful.
So this circuit seems to be a non oscillator, strongly pointing to a DC power component as being the source of the leds being lit.
Regards Itsu
Quote from: Grumage on 2014.02.18, 13:04:45
Dear Itsu.
With regards to my suggestion, dear Wattsup placed a nicely drawn schematic on Giantkillers thread.
Here it is.
Cheers Grum.
Congratulations! You (or maybe Wattsup) have invented the Avramenko Plug!
Quote from: TinselKoala on 2016.10.07, 19:52:27
Congratulations! You (or maybe Wattsup) have invented the Avramenko Plug!
My dear TinselKoala.
Where have you been for the last 2 years, 7 months, and 19 days ?
:D
Funny how things keep getting re-invented and re-named
e.g. the old full wave voltage quadrupler is now an "Avramenko Plug"
the venerable blocking oscillator is now a "Joule Thief"
the current starved oscillator is now a "Slayer Exciter"
The list goes on . Anybody know of a few more "reinventions"?
I suppose It won't be long before the old resistor and capacitor get rediscovered and renamed. Certainly the inductor has been reborn and renamed many times. ;)
and the old full wave voltage quadrupler could become a new fullwave multiplier :)
Have i just invented the Avramenko multiplier :P
Wesley Interpreted the "new Guys" Vid !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpf2wYPR97Y&feature=youtu.be
And here is part two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ehz4MT8ec8&feature=youtu.be
Andrian does a very nice job at building these devices with the following caveats:
Ultimate proof (for me),would require the entire device base including lamp base wood strip should be made of plexiglass or other transparent material.
Also the large power supply should have the cover removed.
Considering the ground, why do none of these presenters slowly pull the ground rod out of the earth to show the effect on output?
With todays Li-Ion battery capacity it is rather easy to light those lamps for a few minutes as shown in the video and you would only need a few of the type 18650 cells. Consider that these battery packs are now powering small chainsaws and portable circular saws, it is not beyond lighting 350 watts worth of lamps for a few minutes.
A hint is the base that the lamps are mounted to, which is particle board with a top laminate. The cells would easily fit in the base if hallowed out or under the power supply hood, not to mention the large wooden base. The cells could also easily be concealed in a hollowed out area beneath the large power supply.
Today we have shirt pocket battery packs that can crank an auto engine. Consider the duty cycle then consider the possibilities.
Normally I'm a believer, but today's high energy density batteries (and rather short time of lamp lighting) have changed that.
Would it be asking too much for him to procure some transparent material to mount the lamp bases and device itself, and remove the cover from the power supply?
I would be very happy to engage a discussion of how this could be faked, and when we have exhausted that possibility, move on to a detailed study of the device itself. Would Wesley be interested?
p.s Steve Marks devices did run around 800 Watts for much longer, not possible with batteries available in the mid 90's, a big contrast with just a few minutes run for this device.
Regards, ION
I looked at the two videos on Wesley's YouTube channel stivep1 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpf2wYPR97Y&feature=youtu.be , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ehz4MT8ec8&feature=youtu.be ):
So, it is a Tariel Kapanadze device replication, fine. Does Andrian Dniester- Adrian Guska want to make money with the invention of Tariel Kapanadze?
If not, he could publish exact plans and schematics to allow everybody to build it as well. Not to make money, just to prove that it works. Who should and who will make money with a Tariel Kapanadze device is a different issue. I am talking about replication for the sake of knowledge.
May be I am too childish. Nobody is interested in anything else than making money?
So, what is the purpose of these two videos? It does not seem to be a quest for knowledge, because one can not see any details.
I never have seen a straight forward presentation of an OU device. A useful and credible presentation would be clear instructions on how to replicate it. One could have a patent to safeguard financial matters or one could just give it to the world.
Whatever, one only sees two useless videos with unproven claims and lack of sufficient details. I call that a teaser.
That is were we stand with Andrian Dniester- Adrian Guska and it is up to him to come clear.
Greetings, Conrad
Hi Conrad, good to see you here. We have shared ideas in the past. On the other forum (OU.com) I use my old handle of Vortex1.
Yes, I agree we must question the purpose of such videos since not enough info for replication is given.
My belief is that many folk are posting such "magik tricks" in the hope to get lots of youtube hits and some supplemental income.
The fact that no real information is given is so that no one replicates and debunks the device, this way it is kept a mystery, continually keeps racking up youtube views and if the presenter is really lucky will find a benefactor with deep pockets.
We can only hope that Andrian is an honest presenter, does not fall into the above category and will divulge at some later point.
Unfortunately this has not been the case with most of similar presentations.
Regards, ION
Quote from: ION on 2016.10.22, 00:59:06
We can only hope that Andrian is an honest presenter, does not fall into the above category and will divulge at some later point.
Does this LQ video demonstrate, that Adrian is at least an honest experimenter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qCl0TKcku0
Quote from: verpies on 2016.10.22, 03:50:39
Does this LQ video demonstrate, that Adrian is at least an honest experimenter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qCl0TKcku0
Since I don't understand the language, I have no idea if he is communicating anything of value. With the sound turned off it is just another blurry video with poor camera work that says nothing to me.
One simple schematic would speak volumes instead of the very poor quality video, and use much less bandwidth.
I do think the barefoot holding the lamp base was a high point in the video. We should chip in and get this guy a better camera and tripod. :D
So can anyone explain what the purpose of such a video is?
Quote from: ION on 2016.10.22, 15:02:12
Since I don't understand the language, I have no idea if he is communicating anything of value. With the sound turned off it is just another blurry video with poor camera work that says nothing to me.
One simple schematic would speak volumes instead of the very poor quality video, and use much less bandwidth.
I do think the barefoot holding the lamp base was a high point in the video. We should chip in and get this guy a better camera and tripod. :D
So can anyone explain what the purpose of such a video is?
ION,
Fame and fortune it would appear, when no schematic is given it is immediately obvious to me that they don't want anyone to be able to understand or duplicate it. Sometimes they don't know enough about electronics to be able to draw a proper schematic. And when a schematic is given it most times is unreadable, has missing parts, connections or items you can't tell WTF they are or how they are connected, so is of no use anyway. I would rather get a good schematic then anything else I don't even need the video's. The problem seems to be that there are a lot of people working on these things who don't know much about electronics, most of them are doing and repeating experiments that have been done over and over for the last 100 years plus and don't realize it because they have done no study of it, along with improper measurements and other basic and beginner mistakes I see no need to rush to view most of these video's and for most a minute or two is all I need to watch, but even that quick they have just made more money.
The purpose to me is obvious, to fool everyone they can, I think it gives them some kind of thrill, makes them feel alive. Just my 1 cent worth.
Room
Quote from: Room3327 on 2016.10.22, 17:17:06And when a schematic is given it most times is unreadable, has missing parts, connections or items you can't tell WTF they are or how they are connected, so is of no use anyway. I would rather get a good schematic then anything else I don't even need the video's.
Is hhop gen 4 update 2 a good schematic ?
Quote from: evolvingape on 2016.10.22, 21:34:47
Is hhop gen 4 update 2 a good schematic ?
ea, if you are referring to this:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2288.msg57646#msg57646
I'm afraid I am not familiar with hydraulic drawings and symbols so could not know if it is a good schematic from that perspective.
A bit of labeling of the various items would be a help towards my understanding.
Regards, ION
Quote from: evolvingape on 2016.10.22, 21:34:47
Is hhop gen 4 update 2 a good schematic ?
I haven't seen any schematics on your hhop thread, what you are apperantly calling a schematic I call a pictoral drawing, that is not the same as an electrical schematic.
Part three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0GGu_j7WTw&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: Chet K on 2016.10.24, 09:26:35
Part three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0GGu_j7WTw&feature=youtu.be
For me this is again what I call a "teaser viedeo".
Why does one have to present something in such a strange way? It just smells very bad. There are millions of good ways to present a technical achievement, why do it in a way that spells "scam" or "nonsense" loud and clear?
I understand that someone wants to profit from a technical achievement. But the videos we have seen so far are definitely not a good way to do business either.
Even a goal like "many hits on YouTube" will not be realised with these videos because there is only a very small audience. How many want to see a OU teaser video? Look at the hits at stivep1 https://www.youtube.com/user/stivep1/videos, not the way to serious money.
So, terrible disclosure, terrible business attempt, terrible Youtube strategy.
Well, the world does not have to behave as I want it to be. Everybody may do what he likes, but I do not have to like it. And of course it is my own fault that I concern myself with such things. So, the real idot is me.
Greetings, Conrad
Conrad
welcome to the forum, its all part of the mystery !
respectfully
Chet K
Quote from: Chet K on 2016.10.24, 09:26:35
Part three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0GGu_j7WTw&feature=youtu.be
Actually, this is a
part zero that predates part one. The author has removed this video, but
Justawatt (http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg494182/#msg494182) has saved and reposted it.
It depicts author's struggles to get the device working ...
before he got it to work as shown in the first video.
In this video, Dave does a great job of walking us through the simple calculations and common sense to vet a claim by a presenter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI
We can apply the same to the Andrian device if we recognize that just a few of the type 18650 Li-Ion cells will light the lamps for up to two minutes or so when put through a modest step up converter as seen in the video (device out in the field)
These cells are readily available for free from disposed laptop battery packs. In those packs, usually one cell will go shorted, forcing the protection circuit to not allow further charging of the remaining cells, which are still usable.
My earlier post #132 stated the requirements for this device to be believable. I welcome any debates on the matter.
Regards, ION
Quote from: verpies on 2016.10.24, 22:22:03
Actually, this is a part zero that predates part one. The author has removed this video, but Justawatt (http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg494182/#msg494182) has saved and reposted it.
It depicts author's struggles to get the device working ...before he got it to work as shown in the first video.
Well that does not bode well, revisionist history is often frowned upon with a cold anger.
Excellent video ION and much needed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI) I'd place it into the category
of Must Watch for all Experimenters.
As Experimenters gain experience and comprehension in their growth,
they ultimately come to the final phase of their development, when at
last it is realized that Free Energy or OverUnity is truly paradoxical.
There is of course an explanation for the rare manifestations of
anomalous energy such as demonstrated by Daniel Pomerleau,
but few are able to go there.
Quote from: muDped on 2016.10.25, 16:23:22
There is of course an explanation for the rare manifestations of
anomalous energy such as demonstrated by Daniel Pomerleau,
but few are able to go there.
What is the explanation for rare manifestations of anomalous energy ?
Quote from: EvolvingApe
What is the explanation for rare manifestations of anomalous energy ?
Research the network of Deep Underground Military Bases and who
is collaborated with in pursuit of Star Wars Technologies/Black Projects.
There you will find the explanation. They are here now and more will
arrive soon.
The coming final war will be a doozy.
A few of the whistleblowers are still alive.
Those who have been terminated did provide accounts of what
they had witnessed. Some of their story will be very hard to believe.
Quote from: muDped on 2016.10.25, 17:16:04
Research the network of Deep Underground Military Bases and who
is collaborated with in pursuit of Star Wars Technologies/Black Projects.
There you will find the explanation. They are here now and more will
arrive soon.
The coming final war will be a doozy.
A few of the whistleblowers are still alive.
Those who have been terminated did provide accounts of what
they had witnessed. Some of their story will be very hard to believe.
While I entertain certain possibilities and probabilities to the points you represent, your account of the matter is provided without sufficient substantiating evidence.
I have no choice but to treat it as hearsay, and with mind to the potential divert some resources to information process. I would be obliged if you could save me the effort and provide source material.
I see no reason to invoke at this critical point in time external forces (aliens), to explain the governing energy scarcity ideology and moral corruption paradigm leading the human species (Great Ape) to inevitable extinction taking most of the life out of planet Earth with it. Idiocracy!
Quote from: muDped on 2016.10.25, 17:16:04
Research the network of Deep Underground Military Bases and who
is collaborated with in pursuit of Star Wars Technologies/Black Projects.
There you will find the explanation. They are here now and more will
arrive soon.
The coming final war will be a doozy.
A few of the whistleblowers are still alive.
Those who have been terminated did provide accounts of what
they had witnessed. Some of their story will be very hard to believe.
Hi muDped
I agree that OU is paradoxical and there are deep secrets in this area.
For what is visible on youtube etc. there are only a very few devices worthy of study. The rest are the low hanging fruit easily explained and dismissed, as they are usually built by folks who haven't got a clue how to properly test their own work.
I shudder to think of an upcoming global war. Lets hope by some miracle it does not happen.
Regards, ION
Quote from: ION on 2016.10.25, 18:03:01
I shudder to think of an upcoming global war. Lets hope by some miracle it does not happen.
The war is in it's final covert stage before overt denial becomes implausible.
Unlike previous human wars it is not a duality, good v evil.. it is a triune.
The West may square off against the East but it is the bulk of the people that decide where the moral support base exists.
Quote from: Chet K on 2016.10.24, 13:58:08
Conrad
welcome to the forum, its all part of the mystery !
respectfully
Chet K
Quote from: ION on 2016.10.22, 00:59:06
Hi Conrad, good to see you here. We have shared ideas in the past. On the other forum (OU.com) I use my old handle of Vortex1.
Yes, I agree we must question the purpose of such videos since not enough info for replication is given.
My belief is that many folk are posting such "magik tricks" in the hope to get lots of youtube hits and some supplemental income.
The fact that no real information is given is so that no one replicates and debunks the device, this way it is kept a mystery, continually keeps racking up youtube views and if the presenter is really lucky will find a benefactor with deep pockets.
We can only hope that Andrian is an honest presenter, does not fall into the above category and will divulge at some later point.
Unfortunately this has not been the case with most of similar presentations.
Regards, ION
Hello Chet K, I always like a mystery and hope to find some here.
Hello ION, let's hope some mysterious honest folks show up in this forum.
Unfortunately I do not know how to produce a miracle. That is why I try to find one.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: EvolvingApe
...
I have no choice but to treat it as hearsay, and with mind to the potential divert some resources to information process. I would be obliged if you could save me the effort and provide source material.
I see no reason to invoke at this critical point in time external forces (aliens)...
Aye, it is difficult to come to grips with. The most
persuasive "source material" would be my experiences
and exposures, both while active military and beyond.
But those too would be only "hearsay."
I'm afraid the only alternative is to dig, for those who
may be interested in finding what truth is presently
available, for answers. Until such time, that is, when
World Events will remove all doubt.
Whether one makes effort to seek "evidence" or not
will not matter. In due time we will all see who "they"
are and what they have. At the rate World Events are
moving toward that end it shouldn't be more than perhaps
a decade or two in the future.
In the meantime what has begun in the Middle East has
reached a focal point in Syria. What happens there next
will be a prelude to the final event. Yes, a madness or "Idiocracy"
has overtaken "The West" for a certainty.
For those who like illusions, this guy does a good one, and much simpler than Andrian's device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErbXiXsyc9k&feature=youtu.be
He has some companion videos also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYG5-T0135E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNShdzUNpo0&feature=youtu.be
Last one is easier to debunk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-T85mzhVQI&feature=youtu.be
very interesting Vid from Our friend Wesley
Wesley says ........How to build Tariel Kapanadze device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ1V_yDv-c&feature=youtu.be
Well isn't that nice.
I can tell you how to build a faster-than-light spacedrive. Maybe Wesley can figure out how to plug his TK-box into my FTL to power it.
Oh... wait.... Wesley doesn't actually have a working TK-box.... and I don't actually have a FTL drive.
well
would not want to guess about Wesley's boxes ,he has lots of boxes
some of them may not be socially acceptable [emission issues]
but it would be nice to see something working that has no emissions to worry about
and to hear Wesley talk about the "TK" box [Not to be confused with any _other_ Tk's
who may wish to mingle fanciful technologies]
Wesley's _pending_ TK box has no such emission concerns ,But .....[Big BUT here]
does it Do what it Do ??
that is
Pump energy from the Ambient potential ??
i really do think we will get a chance to see ??
soon....
well
Wesley seems to have lost his mind. He seems to be extremely excited about this obvious fake, spamming at least three forum threads with the same link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-M55XP3D4A
"Is it real? You tell me." No, Wesley, it's not real.
around 8 min mark it is shown aloft
and 9 min mark he starts with the stick and looking for fake support strings
The Vid made me smile ....
I would like to see another vid with a good demonstration [a support camera man walking around looking and listening throughout the presentation [no edits]
Quote from: Chet K on 2018.07.12, 11:47:23
around 8 min mark it is shown aloft
and 9 min mark he starts with the stick and looking for fake support strings
The Vid made me smile ....
Antigrav is simply cooler than overunity. ;D ;D ;D It inspires in a way that lighting bulbs does not.
John Bedin's systems never had a huge number of replications partly because battery chargers are boring.
That isn't to say it's real, but the next step is the same. Real or fake, the question is still 'How?'
Closest conventional research involving HV against rotating superconductors I can recall was Podkletnov:
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2014/05/update-on-podkletnov-gravity.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060325232140.htm
edit:
The closest woo-woo design would seem to be Kosol device. This would give us a good idea on the material composition of the disk if it's a real video:
http://www.americanantigravity.com/files/articles/Kosol-Interview.pdf
https://overunity.com/2035/the-kosol-sphere/dlattach/attach/6348/
Reiyuki
QuoteAntigrav is simply cooler than overunity. ;D ;D ;D
Not only cooler, you can bet control of gravity is linked to OU. You can also be sure that it is
the most guarded secret on the planet. Released it would put the mafia's that control the world out of business. Imagine all the worker bees leaving the planet, no more honey for the keepers.
And those that chose to stay wouldn't need their oil. With abundant FE, any element you want can be transmuted or even created.
The ramifications are enormous, it would mean the end of the current "system of things".
There is abundant evidence on our Planet that a
High Technology Society of some sort existed
several thousands of years ago. It has been predicted
that we'll see a "replay" of those technologies in our
present age. We may soon have revealed to us the
True Source of what we now call "Over-unity" or
"Anomalous Free Energy." Very interesting times we
are in for sure.
Take a look at Alexey Chekurkov's channel. This guy didn't come out of nowhere, that's for sure:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzZxKT3BzBZOVVy8_YzP6Yw
There's a dozen videos over the past few years with a very clear progression to them. This is evidently from a rumored antigrav platform long ago that claimed to use beetle shells to make a repulsive platform.
He starts early tests by analyzing what looks to be beetle shells with HV and with a microscope, then progresses to homemade 'wing' tests with an unknown metal sheeting (emi magnetic shielding sheet?). Then he tests rotating disks, analyzing the vibration patterns. Then building small counter-rotating proto-craft that is similar to the first test.
Attached are some screenshots of his different setups and experiments.
Boy, I wish I knew Russian. C.C 、、、日本語できるけど ^-^
Grumpy and others had some interesting comments and contributions here.
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2331.msg36184#msg36184
Wesley said the time spent here [watching his recent Video] ...would be well spent time ?
perhaps he has more insight ...
??
Those videos of that spinning thing are so obviously faked that I feel sorry for Wesley. I think he's losing his mind. The first one was debunked long ago, where the device falls to the floor when the thread suspending it breaks. The second video is even more laughable, where the fellow holds the "high voltage" wires in his hands, and the height of the device stays constant while the load from the weight of the wires varies as he holds them (and doesn't get shocked). And in strong winds, even! Any drone pilot will tell you what kind of sophisticated autopilot or fancy control manipulation is needed to keep a flying thing hovering in one spot at constant altitude in strong winds. The "stick trick" where he pretends to show that it isn't suspended from above is an old stage magician's trick; from the audience's perspective you can't tell that the stick actually never crosses the suspending fishing line hanging from the tree limb up above. And the connection to the battery: sure, just wrap a bit of wire a few times around a post, loosely enough that you can just dislodge it with your fingers, without making any spark..... LOL!
You can talk about Grebennikov all you like but this device has nothing to do with anything attributed to Greb. The Greb flying platform reportedly used louvers, like venetian blinds or like the Cavorite system, nothing rotating, and no magnets or even any power supply, it was just working by the chitin's electrostatic properties. This thing uses counterrotating disks bearing magnets (allegedly) and power supplies. And of course... the thread or fishing line.
I can't wait to see who falls for this and starts "replicating".
Quote from: TinselKoala on 2018.07.13, 21:28:36
Those videos of that spinning thing are so obviously faked that I feel sorry for Wesley. I think he's losing his mind.
Starting an argument with a personal attack is not a good strategy. :-\
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The first one was debunked long ago, where the device falls to the floor when the thread suspending it breaks.
More than likely. Watch the human-sized shadow in the 1st video next to the disc. The shadow moves in-line with the craft movement.
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The second video is even more laughable, where the fellow holds the "high voltage" wires in his hands, and the height of the device stays constant while the load from the weight of the wires varies as he holds them (and doesn't get shocked).
Anyone who's played with high voltage knows there's nothing fancy about that. Even thin-shielded cables are enough to avoid shocks against >30kv. (though they will buzz and emit corona)
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And in strong winds, even! Any drone pilot will tell you what kind of sophisticated autopilot or fancy control manipulation is needed to keep a flying thing hovering in one spot at constant altitude in strong winds.
Decent argument O0. Though someone would probably counter that the device acts as its own inertia field and counters thrust and rotation on all axes.
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The "stick trick" where he pretends to show that it isn't suspended from above is an old stage magician's trick; from the audience's perspective you can't tell that the stick actually never crosses the suspending fishing line hanging from the tree limb up above.
Good catch. O0
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And the connection to the battery: sure, just wrap a bit of wire a few times around a post, loosely enough that you can just dislodge it with your fingers, without making any spark..... LOL!
Disconnecting a load from a battery doesn't always make sparks. Meh.
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You can talk about Grebennikov all you like but this device has nothing to do with anything attributed to Greb. The Greb flying platform reportedly used louvers, like venetian blinds or like the Cavorite system, nothing rotating, and no magnets or even any power supply, it was just working by the chitin's electrostatic properties. This thing uses counterrotating disks bearing magnets (allegedly) and power supplies. And of course... the thread or fishing line.
Good to know. ;D
Better analysis would leave out the emotion and just start with listening to the audio at the point where the craft starts falling, at 10:56 in Wesley's video (attached). Sounds like wire stretching followed by a tree-branch snap.
(rope stretching sound effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH3LsshSAG8 )
Then they'd point out the odd ratio of stability (that the vehicle is completely stable in rotation and horizontally, but drifts up-and-down vertically (in-sync with the trees blowing nearby in the wind) C.C
I still like the videos. They inspire the imagination in a way that OU does not. ;D ;D ;D
I did like Alexey's method starting with microscopic analysis of animal structures and systems in nature before progressing to more practical experiments.
But starting from hard-science rather than of nature, the highest likelihood of success is likely to be found in metamaterials that have an intermix of diamagnetic, paramagnetic, ferromagnetic, and/or piezoelectric properties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiferroics
This is partly due to the tenancy that most superconductors are composed of mixtures of diamagnetic and magnetic materials. Since superconductivity is a situation where currents are locked into a continuous loop unable to escape, it acts as a 'virtual inertia'; and indeed many electrical engineering lessons describe currents inside an inductor this way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_superconductivity
If we couple this with HV impulses, we may indeed be able to create situations where the superconductor creates Lorentz deflection against the charged particles to force them into stable orbits around the superconductor, allowing us to pump energy into a region of space faster than it can be dissipated. In effect, we'd end up with an artificial 'density' (due to the inertia of the charged particles being injected into the system).
Of course, the closest we can get to superconductors on the bench of course are regular LC tank circuits. C.C B fields in opposition of course, so we don't waste energy coupling magnetically to free space.
Anyway, that's my ramblings. Fun stuff to ponder ;)
is this the goods ?
or ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXVVD8IiQc&feature=youtu.be
just making a benchmark for an experiment Wesley proposed last week at Stefan's forum [until I can ask him where he wants this Data presented]
I suggest simple experiment :
1.take two grounds ( at best at the distance) ( ground wires must be thick from 0 to 3 gauge)
a.deliver to one ground impulse ( whatever voltage, whatever shape)
b.measure if that impulse is sensed by second ground by means of close circuit.
that means that your V meter is connected to both of the grounds.
c.if you do not sense the impulse than increase the voltage and do it again.
d.please look if Voltage or VxA of impulse at second ground is stronger in given time frame.( Look at all DC and AC components.
Oscilloscope and Spectrum analyzer gives you information about frequency distribution, harmonics and its amplitude !!!, bandwidth and distortion)
Look also at time delay and phase for AC or AC component of DC.
e. Employ spark Gap ( spark Gap has NEGATIVE RESISTANCE) and HV and repeat measurement again.
Note :If AC train of impulses is tested than generator can be:
e' - floating ( not connected to the ground by insulation transformer and impulse is delivered by one wire only) or ( powered from batteries) ( that includes manually triggered single impulses as well)
e'' - connected to the electrical ground from electrical outlet and powered by batteries
e'''- connected to/ and powered from electrical outlet
f. create another loop (-separate DC loop) using ground and check if AC loop is interfering with DC loop.
Note: make sure that these two separate AC and DC loops are equal in Voltage .
g. you may decide now to place in AC circuit tunable LC Network after you have done all points
from above. :)
I know what I'm talking about.
The choice is yours.
for lazy folks look from here https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=474
for not so much lazy folks look from here https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=443
h. if you see difference of potentials between any of two grounds such as:
h' -first ground wire and cold water pipe
h'' -first ground wire and Russian type of heating system ( cast iron radiators)
h''' - first ground wire and 0 from electrical outlets or combination of it
than do not think for the moment why you have it, but apply primary of Tesla coil into it ( using LC tunable ) and measure the voltage between two ends of secondary using HV probe.
In my link from above for lazy and not lazy folks I have shown a Transformer with the air gap near vicinity of Tesla coil ( that is our regular HV from CRT ) ( You may play with one winding only - the primary.) ( however if you intend to use secondary to couple to LC network than , use as low winds winding section of primary as possible , to get the highest voltage at secondary)
Air gap acts as temporary energy storage. you can also have LC network connected to it
Note:
in general it is not important how device looks like.
- Matching of impedance gives you energy transfer
- matching of resonance (even without impedance matching is like matching impedance, that) means you have energy transfer :
In resonance all reactances are canceled leaving only pure resistive component of impedance (resistance) (as if it was DC where there is none of reactive components and there is no impedance )that is why it is important to have thick ground wire and if possible thick primary of Tesla Coil.
"thick" means surface of the wire....( so copper tubing is very much OK) due to Skin Current for AC.
i. It was noticed that look with earth connection as earth wire was few times more battery saving than the same loop that used two aerial wires
Please press https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=617, and immediately stop video. On the left hand side page on the top read from words :
Quote
some early experimenters...
it says about telluric generators , telluric current and battery life when ground is imposed .
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Think like you are in 1900 ( just for the moment)
Point #2 serves as an explanation of ground behavior :
* do not omit "star"
2. Old telegraph from 1834 to 1963 was working based on DC interrupted that means leading edge and falling edge is your AC component of
DC from 24 to 36V battery ( original Voltage of US telegraph company spec.)
a. it means that few thousands miles long line with return using earth ground was powered by this battery( in some places it was direct one loop in other places it was series of loops separated and forming another loop.)
b. AC and DC coexists in the ground separate loops not being able to see each other. ( *unless - conditions allows for such interaction)
c. Telluric Current was interacting with all of the loops despite the fact if it was chain of isolated telegraph loops or just one. ( but not causing much of the problems or none or the problems - * applies)
d. it was noticed that using earth as e return wire ( means of connection) saves battery life anywhere from 50% to hundreds of %
Notice : there is no such thing as more that 100% of energy saving that is why some scientist of that time (1900) where trying to explain earth as energy reservoir
e. https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=746 VOID schematic has a lot of sense( Thank you Void)
Summary:
-You looking for FE ( Energy for Free) my friends
American telegraph was making plenty of money , not only because of its business, but because of utilizing natural phenomena and saving on cost.
-You want to find what Tariel was/wasn't about do this simple test.
Wesley
METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR EXTRACTING AND CONVEYING ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM THE EARTH IONOSPHERE CAVITY
US20150102676 Patent.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/c2/73/cd/ed546d4872c866/US20150102676A1.pdf
related ?[his name iis on the above patent
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.engineering.electrical/iGvb86LXMFA
from Wesley thread here
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/750/
another Earth energy extractor filed in 2014 Granted 2017
same fellows apparently...plus a new guy ?
https://earthenergies.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/US-Patent-9564268.pdf
Are Tesla's patents being recycled now?
Quote from: TinselKoala on 2018.08.15, 14:14:21
Are Tesla's patents being recycled now?
And they will be 50 years from now.
Say Tesla,and everyone comes running.
Brad
Yep. Or... do the same stuff, but _don't_ mention Tesla... that's even better.
well
I hope to be able to speak with the inventor
just for perspective.
Wesley did perform this test in what seemed like South America at a very isolated area and says it works ,he had posted many pics [since removed] at Stefan's
he had more to say about the how too
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg524904/#new
quite certain there will be more to come ,he is being very cautious ATT
*****
again the test
just making a benchmark for an experiment Wesley proposed last week at Stefan's forum [until I can ask him where he wants this Data presented]
I suggest simple experiment :
1.take two grounds ( at best at the distance) ( ground wires must be thick from 0 to 3 gauge)
a.deliver to one ground impulse ( whatever voltage, whatever shape)
b.measure if that impulse is sensed by second ground by means of close circuit.
that means that your V meter is connected to both of the grounds.
c.if you do not sense the impulse than increase the voltage and do it again.
d.please look if Voltage or VxA of impulse at second ground is stronger in given time frame.( Look at all DC and AC components.
Oscilloscope and Spectrum analyzer gives you information about frequency distribution, harmonics and its amplitude !!!, bandwidth and distortion)
Look also at time delay and phase for AC or AC component of DC.
e. Employ spark Gap ( spark Gap has NEGATIVE RESISTANCE) and HV and repeat measurement again.
Note :If AC train of impulses is tested than generator can be:
e' - floating ( not connected to the ground by insulation transformer and impulse is delivered by one wire only) or ( powered from batteries) ( that includes manually triggered single impulses as well)
e'' - connected to the electrical ground from electrical outlet and powered by batteries
e'''- connected to/ and powered from electrical outlet
f. create another loop (-separate DC loop) using ground and check if AC loop is interfering with DC loop.
Note: make sure that these two separate AC and DC loops are equal in Voltage .
g. you may decide now to place in AC circuit tunable LC Network after you have done all points
from above. :)
I know what I'm talking about.
The choice is yours.
for lazy folks look from here https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=474
for not so much lazy folks look from here https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=443
h. if you see difference of potentials between any of two grounds such as:
h' -first ground wire and cold water pipe
h'' -first ground wire and Russian type of heating system ( cast iron radiators)
h''' - first ground wire and 0 from electrical outlets or combination of it
than do not think for the moment why you have it, but apply primary of Tesla coil into it ( using LC tunable ) and measure the voltage between two ends of secondary using HV probe.
In my link from above for lazy and not lazy folks I have shown a Transformer with the air gap near vicinity of Tesla coil ( that is our regular HV from CRT ) ( You may play with one winding only - the primary.) ( however if you intend to use secondary to couple to LC network than , use as low winds winding section of primary as possible , to get the highest voltage at secondary)
Air gap acts as temporary energy storage. you can also have LC network connected to it
Note:
in general it is not important how device looks like.
- Matching of impedance gives you energy transfer
- matching of resonance (even without impedance matching is like matching impedance, that) means you have energy transfer :
In resonance all reactances are canceled leaving only pure resistive component of impedance (resistance) (as if it was DC where there is none of reactive components and there is no impedance )that is why it is important to have thick ground wire and if possible thick primary of Tesla Coil.
"thick" means surface of the wire....( so copper tubing is very much OK) due to Skin Current for AC.
i. It was noticed that look with earth connection as earth wire was few times more battery saving than the same loop that used two aerial wires
Please press https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=617, and immediately stop video. On the left hand side page on the top read from words :
Quote
some early experimenters...
it says about telluric generators , telluric current and battery life when ground is imposed .
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Think like you are in 1900 ( just for the moment)
Point #2 serves as an explanation of ground behavior :
* do not omit "star"
2. Old telegraph from 1834 to 1963 was working based on DC interrupted that means leading edge and falling edge is your AC component of
DC from 24 to 36V battery ( original Voltage of US telegraph company spec.)
a. it means that few thousands miles long line with return using earth ground was powered by this battery( in some places it was direct one loop in other places it was series of loops separated and forming another loop.)
b. AC and DC coexists in the ground separate loops not being able to see each other. ( *unless - conditions allows for such interaction)
c. Telluric Current was interacting with all of the loops despite the fact if it was chain of isolated telegraph loops or just one. ( but not causing much of the problems or none or the problems - * applies)
d. it was noticed that using earth as e return wire ( means of connection) saves battery life anywhere from 50% to hundreds of %
Notice : there is no such thing as more that 100% of energy saving that is why some scientist of that time (1900) where trying to explain earth as energy reservoir
e. https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=746 VOID schematic has a lot of sense( Thank you Void)
Summary:
-You looking for FE ( Energy for Free) my friends
American telegraph was making plenty of money , not only because of its business, but because of utilizing natural phenomena and saving on cost.
-You want to find what Tariel was/wasn't about do this simple test.
Wesley
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end quote
also I will be contacting the inventor from previous Earth harvesting post patent
and will report back.
Chet
The old rural telephone system was also a single wire
above ground system. The return 'wire' of the circuit
was earth or ground. Each rural telephone cabinet used
two Dry Cells (total 3.0 Volts) to power the microphone
connection to a step-up transformer. A hand cranked
AC Permanent Magnet Generator was used to 'ring'
other customers on your line or to 'ring' the main office
operator. It worked quite well.
Interestingly, military battlefield communications systems
were nearly identical in construct but used two steel
insulated wires for the connections to each terminal in
the circuit. Ground was not used because it was well
known that audio signals in the ground could be
intercepted by 'enemy' communications using very
sensitive amplifiers connected to two ground rods separated
by a distance of several meters to intercept the signal.
It is well known that both Audio and Low Frequency RF
signals can be transmitted through the ground for a surprising
distance.
The statement in the video that "a negative resistance provides
power to the circuit" is not quite right. Certain devices such as
vacuum tubes, transistors and specially constructed diodes do
exhibit a negative resistance within a narrow region of their
characteristic curve. Within that region those devices are capable
of operating as small signal amplifiers where increasing voltage
across the device results in decreased current flow while decreasing
voltage across the device results in increasing current flow.
A power source is necessary to provide the current to take
advantage of the negative resistance portion of the characteristic
curve. The Wiki explanation is quite good (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_resistance).