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Hello, I'm building a replication of the Kapanadze generator. Diagram and video with the principle below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojJse_yjXw4


Principle - modulation with high-frequency current, low-frequency reference voltage

What is the composition, dimensions and shape of that red thing ?

There you need a small piece of ferrite to match the inductor and resonator. It is possible without ferrite, but then precise inductor-resonator calculations are needed.
A similar scheme has already been assembled by V. Pantyukhov. There was also modulation, but it was not very successful. My scheme is simpler and works better.
Grounding is required for heavy loads. On small 20-40 watts it is not needed.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.18, 16:36:10
...to match the inductor and resonator.

Please color the resonator in blue on the diagram.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.18, 16:36:10
There you need a small piece of ferrite ...

Any ferrite composition ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.18, 20:26:31
Please color the resonator in blue on the diagram.

The resonator is a bifilar, in the video there are many turns of a copper coil with a double wire.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.18, 20:35:10
Any ferrite composition ?

Ferrite is any short rod. It simply matches the magnetic field of the inductor.

I initially wanted to use 3 transformers from uninterruptible power supplies. Inverter - powering the high-frequency generator - charging the inverter battery. But they turned out to have too low resistance for my converter. Therefore, it is better to wind transformers yourself, with a small load.

The main idea is to use the Linde effect. When a circuit is made in which the current is increased at a high frequency and at the same time the high-frequency generator is powered by itself. The circuit in which the current increases is highlighted in red. By increasing the current in the circuit from which the high-frequency generator is powered, the consumption of the entire circuit decreases.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.18, 21:18:48
The resonator is a bifilar, in the video there are many turns of a copper coil with a double wire.

That is not clear.  Please color the resonator in blue on the diagram.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.18, 21:29:46
That is not clear.  Please color the resonator in blue on the diagram.

https://dzen.ru/video/watch/65056c3969f5d4413a01d33d

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.18, 21:20:17
It simply matches the magnetic field of the inductor.

Incomplete statement. The word "Match" requires two arguments. Just like the "equals sign" has two ends.

I think he means in resonance, maximum transfer of energy perhaps !

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.19, 06:57:09
I think he means in resonance, maximum transfer of energy perhaps !

yes!

The first experiments were carried out a long time ago by V. Pantyukhov. He had his own device diagram. I tried to repeat it - no luck. There was no modulation as such. I'll attach a diagram for the story. He strongly argued that Kapanadze has the same principle.As you can see, grounding is not used. I think Kapanadze directed the modulation to grounding.

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.19, 06:57:09
I think he means in resonance, maximum transfer of energy perhaps !

Even if he does, it needs to be stated clearly what TWO components the maximum transfer of energy takes place between.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.19, 10:46:17
Even if he does, it needs to be stated clearly what TWO components the maximum transfer of energy takes place between.

Two components like a chemical reaction ? no it's not ! it's more like an acceleration from the environment
which would use energy that's very likely causing global warming.

too complicated, it has to be simple . Kapanadze would not make it complicated. The trick must be to capture radio signal and then use it to pull energy from air in some closed loop silly electronic circuit really simple

As far as I am aware all systems are "calibrated " for expected load characteristics where matching load impedance is a must and also negative resistance is necessary to make the load appear as providing power not consuming (sometimes a simple diode connected in "wrong way " might be useful)

Patent Kapanadze.



In fact .
Consists of two parts, pass-through 220 volts and a high-frequency generator with a coil with phase controlled frequency control.
Increasing the loop current will affect both input power and output power

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.19, 12:56:40
Two components like a chemical reaction ?

No

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.19, 12:56:40
no it's not ! it's more like an acceleration from the environment which would use energy that's very likely causing global warming.

You are deviating from the original question.
Any transfer of energy requires two objects or locations. One is a source, the other one is destination.
Define both.

Well arn't you the professor ? cant you work it out ?

Could it be electro magnetic radiation and wire ?

And that is not all.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.18, 21:20:17
It simply matches the magnetic field of the inductor.

Incomplete statement. The word "Match" requires two arguments.
Define both arguments.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.20, 12:00:15
And that is not all.
Incomplete statement. The word "Match" requires two arguments.
Define both arguments.

If you stand in-between 2 mirrors what do you see? one is tx the other is rx it's the same thing  so what are the 2 things involved
in this experiment ?

By the way according to Steven Greer in a recent video the shadow secret industrial government only has till January 2024
to release all information on Alien and free energy data know how or it will be charged with cue-day-tar, witch should be interesting if true.

Sil

I suggest collecting everything in hardware first, and developing theories later! ^-^
The circuit is very simple, the inverter module can be bought on Aliexpress.
https://aliexpress.ru/item/4000438023280.html?sku_id=10000001805672738

I still have a problem finding a 30-40 watt transformer for the inverter. Mine rewound 2 times, I don't get into the stable 220 volt output...apparently it's not my thing to wind transformers.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.20, 12:29:51
I suggest collecting everything in hardware first, and developing theories later! ^-^
The circuit is very simple, the inverter module can be bought on Aliexpress.
https://aliexpress.ru/item/4000438023280.html?sku_id=10000001805672738

I still have a problem finding a 30-40 watt transformer for the inverter. Mine rewound 2 times, I don't get into the stable 220 volt output...apparently it's not my thing to wind transformers.

Hi can we just go over a few things here what are we following is it the full circuit diagram or the block diagram if its the diagram you posted with component values T1 looks like its a 50mm tube and 200 mm long with 3 windings of 600 turns of 0.064 wire is that correct ?
i'm not sure about the TLC that looks like a tesla coil so is Ap1 the 40 watt transformer out put or a choke  and what frequency is it operating at can you advise please.

Regards Sil

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.20, 13:37:50
Hi can we just go over a few things here what are we following is it the full circuit diagram or the block diagram if its the diagram you posted with component values T1 looks like its a 50mm tube and 200 mm long with 3 windings of 600 turns of 0.064 wire is that correct ?
i'm not sure about the TLC that looks like a tesla coil so is Ap1 the 40 watt transformer out put or a choke  and what frequency is it operating at can you advise please.

Regards Sil

I have a resonator wound on a 20mm tube, approximately 12-15 cm long. Double wire 0.8mm. But this is not an indicator at all! It is better if you make your resonator according to your own dimensions. There will be something to compare the difference with - it's more interesting.
In the video, the transformer is 10-15 watts with only a 50 hertz inverter.Inverter circuit with video in the figure. Although I think it would be more desirable to use a circuit with a modified sine here
High-frequency PWM generator with aliexpress and a simple driver on two transistors. https://aliexpress.ru/item/32839042221.html?sku_id=12000022945348976
Everything is the cheapest and simplest that could be found.
I didn't calculate the resonator, I just took it and wound it, then adjusted the inductor to it with a piece of ferrite. Wire winding directions - as in the diagram.
Oddly enough, everything happened right away. I think if you approach the scheme wisely, you can get a much better result.

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.20, 12:08:43
If you stand in-between 2 mirrors what do you see?

DELAMORTO did not talk about mirrors here.

He wrote about matching the magnetic field of the inductor ...to something ?
What is that "something" ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.20, 16:05:04
DELAMORTO did not talk about mirrors here.

He wrote about matching the magnetic field of the inductor ...to something ?
What is that "something" ?

You need to match the inductor(TX) with the resonator(RX) and ferrite. Since I did not make calculations on the turns, but the ferrite coordinates their work. When you collect it, you will understand what we are talking about.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.20, 17:02:13
You need to match the inductor(TX) with the resonator(RX) with a piece of ferrite.

OK so you propose matching the magnetic field of the inductor to the magnetic field of the resonator.

...but which property of the magnetic field do you want to match ?
1) the magnitudes of their fluxes
2) the magnitudes of their flux densities at a particular location (which one)
3) their shapes or directions
4) their frequencies.
5) their phases

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.20, 17:06:29
OK so you propose matching the magnetic field of the inductor to the magnetic field of the resonator.

...but which property of the magnetic field do you want to match ?
1) the magnitudes of their fluxes
2) the magnitudes of their flux densities at a particular loction (which one)
3) their shapes or directions
4) their frequencies.
5) their phases

A piece of ferrite agrees with all points. I'm writing via Google, it must be funny)))

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.20, 17:08:51
A piece of ferrite agrees with all points.

No it does not

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.20, 17:10:10
No it does not

Until you collect it, you won't understand  the essence of ferrite, between the inductor and the resonator.
I'm not a theorist, I'm a practitioner. I know that everything can be calculated, but I don't know how. But I know how to coordinate everything in the simplest way.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.20, 17:14:17
Until you collect it, you won't understand  the essence of ferrite, between the inductor and the resonator.
I'm not a theorist, I'm a practitioner. I know that everything can be calculated, but I don't know how. But I know how to coordinate everything in the simplest way.

Trial and error method can help  ;)

Quote from: Classic on 2023.09.20, 17:28:32
Trial and error method can help  ;)

Well, or many followers with their knowledge and skills. That's why I wrote here.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.20, 17:14:17
Until you collect it, you won't understand  the essence of ferrite, ...

Not at all, the effect of high-permeability material in vicinity of two windings has a high yawn factor.

It predominantly increases their coupling coefficient (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductance#Coupling_coefficient).
The effect of this coefficient on the inductive coupling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonant_inductive_coupling) has been well known for hundred years.
Its influence on the doubly-tuned transformers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-tuned_amplifier), too.

Goodnight - I leave you in the highly capable hands of Sil and Nick.

It's important to me that this works. And the theory of how it works can then be described.


The centipede was asked how she controls her forty legs.... She became lost in thought and could no longer move. :)

   Delamoto:
  Why is it important to you that this works. Do you realize that no one has ever made any of Kapanadze devices and replications work, at all? You want to be the first? After all these years, with NO positive results? I wish you luck, truly.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 00:35:23
   Delamoto:
  Why is it important to you that this works. Do you realize that no one has ever made any of Kapanadze devices and replications work, at all? You want to be the first? After all these years, with NO positive results? I wish you luck, truly.

   NickZ

Hey Nick,

Do you think these TopRuslan videos are not what they appear? Maybe a trick, or whatever.

Did a CAE Aanalysis a long while back and they appeared to actually work, but were usnstable.
    _{(after a lot of abuse and such, I moved on, so to speak)}
    ^{{unfortunately, the hypothesis didn't seem to fit the narative at that time}}

http://matri-x.ru/video.shtml (scroll down a bit to TopRuslan)

Руслан Кулабухов (TopRuslan)

Just asking for a friend!

Anyway, good luck!

SL

Kapanadze's principle is to cross current and voltage. How to do this - I have 3 options. The first one is the simplest - I showed it.
The fact is that I don't want to build theories.
I'm just collecting. That's what I want everyone to do.

Gents are we going to replicate this device or gas over the fence all day about trivia ?

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 00:35:23
Do you realize that no one has ever made any of Kapanadze devices and replications work, at all?

Is it because the purportedly working devices were all fake or their replications were missing a crucial component ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.21, 09:04:34
Is it because the purportedly working devices were all fake or their replications were missing a crucial component ?

How about you didn't pay attention and ignorance and insisting on using conventional old ways that don't apply here.

QuoteExtract.
June 2014
   A method and apparatus, by which zero point energy is extracted, in order to increase electromagnetic field energy, which is translated in an increase in kinetic energy of the "free" electrons, which is brought by means of the counter-by-side to create the space 2 in oscillating electro-magnetic "fields", having the same frequency, but with a phase-difference, in-parallel electron conductors, which have a small distance relative to each other.
Summary.
It has been found, after ample research, that zero point-energy can be
extracted from Space in several ways: by using permanent
magnetic and / or electromagnetic fields, as well as "Time-Space " changes .
That this is not known by the contemporary Physics , or don't want to know, is
the biggest scandal done to humanity. Since 1912, the year of the "failed " Michelson - Morley experiment, which failed because of the erroneous assumption that the Aether, if it would exist, would flow tangentially along the Earth's surface flow, is simply adopted by Physics that it did not exist / exists.
The reason that Michelson-Morley had failed is that the equipment should have been
set up 90° different. (The gravitational inflow is the main
component of the Aether flow near and in the Earth) . Poincare suggested the nonsense
that Nature itselve would hide the discovery of the existence of a carrier for electromagnetic and gravitational waves and currents.
Einstein already in 1931 proposed serious objections against the direction which Physics has gone (Einstein , Podolsky , Rosen).
However, to date, the theorists have kept the developments in Physics with respect to low- temperature fusion and zero point-energy to a stand,
aided by the large-industries, for the enforcement of the status quo and little interested in energy technologies which make low costs, decentralization and independence for consumers possible. This invention concerns the "against each other in oscillation" of two electro- magnetic
fields, wherein it has been observed that , depending on the frequency , more
Electric energy can be taken away, then is provided.
Use is being made of conducting wires, which are right next to each other. Possible ways are (a) "in the plane", (b) on a "cylinder", (c) on a "toroid"

If someone bother to read and try to understand what they read in patent NL1032750 of Arie Melis deGeus (NL1032759 on this forum), may find out how to make it work any device similar to Kapanadze. I would strongly suggest to download and save hard and digital copies.

Just try to analyse many other ou/fe devices and find out that same principles are involved an been applied in different ways.

Build 1 device with whatever you have at hand and cost almost nothing, play with it to understand, than scale it up for your needs.

Wire length equal where wire length is half of wave length based on frequency, jion them in midlle with 2 series capacitors where 1 of them is half capacitance than the other (135 degrees phase, or equal capacitance 180 degrees), simple oscillator circuit.
"Bellies" and nodes easy to understand if you look at standing waves when transformers are shorted.

I don't think it could be easier and simpler than that !

Simple deny of aether existence from mainstream science has put in jeopardy most of replication attempt by many. In this patent we can see how mainstream science colluded with unscrupulous gov/military/ bussiness against every individual living on this planet and has lead to an enormous international malefic organisation. This is the reason why they killed inventors and scientists including Arie deGeus and Kapanadze or any other that were showing why or how it work ar attempt to mass production or sell such devices.

Keep simple explanations and simple words to make it available for anyone understanding.

I can see a lot of fancy devices that are meant to be used in such devices, but for ordinary people to get started on non taxable and not metered use of energy is not needed right now ! Please understand this ! Anyone in the world can have this in their houses with no need for enslaving power grids.

The reason we don't have a device is because we talk a lot and do nothing. Theories are good for talkers, but there is no forward movement with them. Where, on what forum did Kapanadze communicate? He just took it and did it!

I understand everyone is tired of fakes and fakers - Akula, Kalabukhov, etc. Their goal is narcissism, like typical bloggers.
But if you want to get results, you have to take it and do it. Trial and error method. And then others will write theories, we ourselves will be surprised at how complicated everything turns out to be working)))

Yes about 10 years ago you published a device that lit up a 240  volt bulb it had a ferox rod in a copper tube with a slit
and a HV winding on the out side driven by 24 volts  self oscillating wingdings that worked but wasn't quite OU but interesting
never the less it was done correctly but i didn't know how it worked back the,

Now lets get back to the 20mm dia coil it's difficult to to know how to know how to wind the two wingdings on the top end
of that coil can you give any info on that section please.

Sil

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.21, 09:40:41
How about you didn't pay attention and ignorance and insisting on using conventional old ways that don't apply here.

So what new fruitful unconventional ways do you propose to use in this device?

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.21, 10:56:48
Yes about 10 years ago you published a device that lit up a 240  volt bulb it had a ferox rod in a copper tube with a slit
and a HV winding on the out side driven by 24 volts self oscillating wingdings that worked but wasn't quite OU but interesting
never the less...

Do you have a link to a video about this device ?

Find Don Smiths video's and go trough them it's the one where he is on the phone talking about his
Dipole Transformer Generater I think it was 1994. it was on Ruslans Live vid's but he removed it,
he said he got it off Rick the German guy who  worked with John Badini.

Good luck finding it.

PS I don't have a copy sorry.

Sil

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.21, 11:11:51
Do you have a link to a video about this device ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFxHC36KkvU&list=PLRYhzUMB2BkLa_b3A3_sw4dGSZKfG3--e&index=15

Quote from: Classic on 2023.09.21, 10:10:21
If someone bother to read and try to understand what they read in patent NL1032750 of Arie Melis deGeus (NL1032759 on this forum), may find out how to make it work any device similar to Kapanadze. I would strongly suggest to download and save hard and digital copies.

Just try to analyse many other ou/fe devices and find out that same principles are involved an been applied in different ways.

Build 1 device with whatever you have at hand and cost almost nothing, play with it to understand, than scale it up for your needs.

Wire length equal where wire length is half of wave length based on frequency, jion them in midlle with 2 series capacitors where 1 of them is half capacitance than the other (135 degrees phase, or equal capacitance 180 degrees), simple oscillator circuit.
"Bellies" and nodes easy to understand if you look at standing waves when transformers are shorted.

I don't think it could be easier and simpler than that !

Simple deny of aether existence from mainstream science has put in jeopardy most of replication attempt by many. In this patent we can see how mainstream science colluded with unscrupulous gov/military/ bussiness against every individual living on this planet and has lead to an enormous international malefic organisation. This is the reason why they killed inventors and scientists including Arie deGeus and Kapanadze or any other that were showing why or how it work ar attempt to mass production or sell such devices.

Keep simple explanations and simple words to make it available for anyone understanding.

I can see a lot of fancy devices that are meant to be used in such devices, but for ordinary people to get started on non taxable and not metered use of energy is not needed right now ! Please understand this ! Anyone in the world can have this in their houses with no need for enslaving power grids.

In the patent Arie states the use of 1 picofarad for starting values for the two capacitors!  However, if one has ever attempted to build this device as he described, you would quickly discover if you did not know beforehand, that the mutual capacitance between the parallel windings is many times greater than 1 pf.  I'm not sure if this is included in his math analysis!
Below is a paper of tests I ran years ago with circuitry based on Arie's patent #NL1032759.
Pm

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.21, 11:35:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFxHC36KkvU&list=PLRYhzUMB2BkLa_b3A3_sw4dGSZKfG3--e&index=15

   AG: It was Woopyjump, a French guy that showed the split tube device, that did NOT provide for OU, nor self running.
So, I won't bother to look for his video. Maybe Verpies can look for it, if interested.
To me this is all just part of the wild goose chase, we've been on for the last many months. And I've come to think that we are being misled, on purpose. And we do need to find the truth behind these miths.

   NickZ

thats right he did as well

Quote from: partzman on 2023.09.21, 13:09:11
In the patent Arie states the use of 1 picofarad for starting values for the two capacitors!  However, if one has ever attempted to build this device as he described, you would quickly discover if you did not know beforehand, that the mutual capacitance between the parallel windings is many times greater than 1 pf.  I'm not sure if this is included in his math analysis!
Below is a paper of tests I ran years ago with circuitry based on Arie's patent #NL1032759.
Pm

Maybe a new thread would be useful

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 13:13:21


   AG: It was Woopyjump, a French guy that showed the split tube device, that did NOT provide for OU, nor self running.
So, I won't bother to look for his video. Maybe Verpies can look for it, if interested.
To me this is all just part of the wild goose chase, we've been on for the last many months. And I've come to think that we are being misled, on purpose. And we do need to find the truth behind these miths.

   NickZ

yuo need to find the original one it's different all the others are different again

   AG:
   I don't need to do anything of the sort. Like chasing dead ends.
If replications don't work, something is wrong. I try to direct my thread towards what I feel is right. Not fish waves, modulated waves, nor split copper tubes. Verpies has missed nothing in the last year. As nothing has worked, at all. 
My interests at this time is finding what is WRONG, not building a new wheel. Or looking at other builds.
   Sorry to those with other intentions.

   NickZ
     

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 16:51:53
I try to direct my thread towards what I feel is right.

Being directed by feelings might be a good approach to love - not science.

  Well, each to his own. Science has not shown self running devices as being anything real. I don't bank on them.
Put your faith where you want it. Why are you here? Have you something to add to our search? No? Just arguing with me about split tubes. "Show me" how well they work towards free energy. Show me...
   
    NickZ

I probably didn't start correctly...
It is a pity that there were no comrades. :-X

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 18:17:34
Science has not shown self running devices as being anything real. I don't bank on them.

Science is a method, its successes to date do not invalidate the method.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 18:17:34
Put your faith where you want it.

Science does not rely on faith.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 18:17:34
Why are you here?

To share my knowledge and acquire new one.
Perhaps some guys here will remind you of the many times I had helped them.  Anyone ?

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 18:17:34
Just arguing with me about split tubes.

I oppose anything that is solely based on faith, feelings and suppressing experiments not aligned with some cherished principle of operation, which is not supported by evidence or logic.
Your knee-jerk reaction about the presence of that split-tube in Itsu's experiment qualifies as such and must be challenged.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 18:17:34
"Show me" how well they work towards free energy. Show me...

I could show you but I do not have a working OU device. So does it even make sense for me to explain it to you what that split tube is supposed to do if it is not backed-up by a self-runner in my hands?
I, on the other hand, will gladly learn about your proposed operating principle on which the construction of this device is supposed to be based upon.
 

What on earth are you on about  ;D if the tube wasnt split it would be a short turn !
and what is going on if i drop a magnet down the centre of a copper tube with no slit ?
and in our tesla coil how do electrons get from the tesla tube to grenade biffilar coil ?
sort that one out !  ;D ;D

And how do Aliens get here from another planet loaqds of tankers trailing be hind them ???

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.21, 16:51:53
   AG:
   I don't need to do anything of the sort. Like chasing dead ends.
If replications don't work, something is wrong. I try to direct my thread towards what I feel is right. Not fish waves, modulated waves, nor split copper tubes. Verpies has missed nothing in the last year. As nothing has worked, at all. 
My interests at this time is finding what is WRONG, not building a new wheel. Or looking at other builds.
   Sorry to those with other intentions.

   NickZ
   

see what i mean  >:-) >:-)

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.21, 19:06:56
Science is a method, its successes to date do not invalidate the method.
Science does not rely on faith.
To share my knowledge and acquire new one.
Perhaps some guys here will remind you of the many times I had helped them.  Anyone ?
I oppose anything that is solely based on faith, feelings and suppressing experiments not aligned with some cherished principle of operation, which is not supported by evidence or logic.
Your knee-jerk reaction about the presence of that split-tube in Itsu's experiment qualifies as such and must be challenged.
I could show you but I do not have a working OU device. So does it even make sense for me to explain it to you what that split tube is supposed to do if it is not backed-up by a self-runner in my hands?
I, on the other hand, will gladly learn about your proposed operating principle on which the construction of this device is supposed to be based upon.

scientists lie 

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.21, 20:24:52
scientists lie

Lying is not a part of the scientific method, so whoever lies disqualifies himself as a scientist.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.21, 18:31:31
I probably didn't start correctly...
It is a pity that there were no comrades. :-X

Oh dear he should have got a tread where he could control the gunk posts.

I do hope he won't give up till we get it going

Sil

   AG:
   Has he ever shown anything that worked. Self ran etc? No?

   NickZ

^by

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.21, 19:06:56
Science is a method, its successes to date do not invalidate the method.
Science does not rely on faith.
To share my knowledge and acquire new one.
Perhaps some guys here will remind you of the many times I had helped them.  Anyone ?
I oppose anything that is solely based on faith, feelings and suppressing experiments not aligned with some cherished principle of operation, which is not supported by evidence or logic.
Your knee-jerk reaction about the presence of that split-tube in Itsu's experiment qualifies as such and must be challenged.
I could show you but I do not have a working OU device. So does it even make sense for me to explain it to you what that split tube is supposed to do if it is not backed-up by a self-runner in my hands?
I, on the other hand, will gladly learn about your proposed operating principle on which the construction of this device is supposed to be based upon.

 




   Well Verpies, perhaps you'd like to catch up on my 6000 posts on this topic, that you've missed on. Where I've explain in detail and living color videos, what my tests have shown, so far. Where were you prof, did you miss the clase?
   I could care less about your knee jerking reactions. Perhaps you should have that jerky knee checked, sounds serious buddy.
   
   NickZ.
   Could not get out of the box.  Sorry for that.

 Verpies has helped many open source researchers ,AND he is a builder/experimenter .
He has Shared valuable circuit design information and utilized his skill set whenever asked ( within reason ..
example:
"I am trying to do this" .."this" being well described in some hypothetical scenario)
Not writing about EE101 questions ( which can be answered on Google search ) referring to higher skill set builders seeking opinions etc etc

  Definitely held in high regard in community ( outside of a few in this  group ,which has not really defined a "this" yet (working principle or target goal which can survive scrutiny ( it seems?
And also seems to write half a thought ( leaving the other half open to some interpretation?( never properly explained)



BTW
Split tube has been around a long time ..
Was actually the "secret" claimed in somebody's build years back ...
Glad to see itsu investigating this .
To note:
I have heard MANY say they would luv Verpies input on an experiment prior to
Picking up the tools.
( was talking with a few builders today where this exact scenario came up ,
Getting the experiment a bit more thought out prior to asking his opinion)
Respectfully
Chet

Chet:
Well they can take all the time they need, to confirm or denie what I've mentioned.
There is no free lunch from a split tube. There is no secret, there, as well. Zilch.
"Show me". When and IF you get it working.  Another distraction, at best. Watch, how this one ends.
Perhaps standing waves will be "in", next...as all others tests up to now have failed.
I am trying to avoid going on that route. And looking for what WORKS, instead.
   
   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.22, 01:12:23
I am trying to avoid going on that route.

Have you ever gone the route of a split tube ?

it's rich in electrons

I've forgotten how long ago I got involved with alternative energy research, probably 23+ years.

I do remember moaning to my wife about Verpies on several occasions in my early attempts of presentation over at OU. Com. It didn't take me long to realise that his input wasn't some sort of " attack " on my rather crude experiments but quite the opposite. He was helping me to gain a better understanding of what I was doing.

Over the years Verpies has always been available for me, providing knowledge and ideas with my own avenues of research. We have become great friends and regularly converse by PM.

Coming back to the present, I did have a bash at a replication of the Chibindze device ( containing a split Aluminium core tube ) some 10 years ago..... https://youtu.be/VXIca35GeIY?feature=shared

Looking back I have come to realise that I didn't have a clue as to what I was doing....  ;D ;D 

As far as I'm concerned Verpies is one of a few of the most highly valued members here at OUR.

Cheers Grum.

Quote from: Grumage on 2023.09.22, 10:59:28
I've forgotten how long ago I got involved with alternative energy research, probably 23+ years.

I do remember moaning to my wife about Verpies on several occasions in my early attempts of presentation over at OU. Com. It didn't take me long to realise that his input wasn't some sort of " attack " on my rather crude experiments but quite the opposite. He was helping me to gain a better understanding of what I was doing.

Over the years Verpies has always been available for me, providing knowledge and ideas with my own avenues of research. We have become great friends and regularly converse by PM.

Coming back to the present, I did have a bash at a replication of the Chibindze device ( containing a split Aluminium core tube ) some 10 years ago..... https://youtu.be/VXIca35GeIY?feature=shared

Looking back I have come to realise that I didn't have a clue as to what I was doing....  ;D ;D 

As far as I'm concerned Verpies is one of a few of the most highly valued members here at OUR.

Cheers Grum.

Grum sure he is but whydoes he keep asking what two items produce the energy ? The thing is or was John Badini must have had all Don Smiths
Vids and gave them to Ruslan next thing they are typed out on Above unity and still are as far as I know, I suggest if any one wants them they look there.
I read some of them but I do not have any coppies of them nothing lets you copy here any more. I posted most of this info back in april on OU but it just got ignored. Now most of it's gone but Rick the Geman guy has them for sale on Amazon for a fortune.

Regards Sil

Kapanadze replication in English

Done with google translate

Regards Sil

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.22, 11:32:02
Grum sure he is but whydoes he keep asking what two items produce the energy ?
Regards Sil

Well..... isn't this the fundamental question? Sadly I can only answer with the number 42.  ;D  Seriously though. P = V x I

After being involved for several years, watching innumerable videos I came to the conclusion that most of the so called " self running free energy " devices were probably faked in one way or another. One video, the one in the field the battery supply was clearly hidden under a pile of loose hay or straw.

I do believe that someone, somewhere will eventually find an answer and let's hope it's sooner rather than later. It will sadden a few because I firmly believe it will be the transmutation of one element to another whilst giving up its energy during the process.

Cheers Grum.

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.22, 11:32:02
Grum sure he is but why does he keep asking what two items produce the energy ?

Actually, I will settle for one operating principle, because once you know one, it will guide your builds to fruition.

It is just like with the IC engines - once you realize that it is the combusting fuel that creates pressure and heat, you can use a variety of mechanical arrangements to arrange for that phenomenon to occur and convert it to mechanical torque.  The exact  arrangement of parts to accomplish that feat will be guided by the underlying principle.
Doing it without knowing the operating principle would be worse than stumbling in the dark. I dare to venture that even Grum could not replicate an IC engine from a grainy film if he lived in the 18th century surrounded by boilers and steam engines. He might not make the mental leap to do the boom inside - he would be missing the crucial operating principle.

It is the same with these *nadze devices, (if they are not fake).  The difference is that we do not know the underlying principle that would guide our builds to fruition.  So we must postulate some operating principle and let it guide our build. If that fails, we must postulate another operating principle and try again.  Rejecting a proposed principle off-hand without logical analysis and trials is a crime against science   ...especially if it is based on feelings.


People like Nick prefer to take another approach which is based on imitation from murky videos without an understanding of the underlying principles ^*.  I even understand why he chooses that path based on his employment history.

However, this is not how to do research into new phenomena and I object to his approach because the chances of semi-randomly assembling components to fruition are smaller than builds guided by some operating principle - however contrived.

P.S.
I require two subjects/objects for any words that indicate a comparison such as "match", "equals", "than", "greater" "less", "different", etc... and when only one is given, I signal a grammatical error and ask for correction.  This is what I asked of Delamorto here (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4510.msg107054#msg107054) and here (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4510.msg107074#msg107074).
Two objects required for grammatical comparison are not related to two operating principles. AG seems to have conflated them.

^*He even seems to avoid trying to formulate one.

Here is an interesting drawing with the calculation of the windings on the resonator. Only part of this drawing is needed)))

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.22, 20:17:43
Here is an interesting drawing with the calculation of the windings on the resonator. Only part of this drawing is needed)))

What does "VHS" stand for ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.22, 06:34:34
Have you ever gone the route of a split tube ?

   Verpies:
    If you must know, yes. I used an aluminum sheet inside my grenade former tube cut and formed to fit it like a split tube.
Let's wait for Itsu, to see what he comes up with, instead. I had no result to show for it.
   
  I am into following a build replication of what apeares to work. Not looking at other builds, for now. Nor taking suggestions for work for me to try out.  Sorry, I am not like Itsu, but he is a much appreciated friend.
   

Edit: Maybe you can provide us with a resent video of a self runner, using a split tube grenade. Can you also show us how well it works. And that it's not just another distraction for us (not you), to waste time on, as up to now you have shown nothing that self run, ever.

   I am not concerned about your opinions of my "approach" Nor did I ask you for your opinions, at all.   
Show us how well you understand free energy projects, by showing something tangible and useful toward self running, after all these years. But you can't. Proffesor. Or are you just here to criticize, distract and insult? Sounds like it...

   Keep in mind that you've started on the wrong foot, with me. Obviously that does not matter to you.
But, that can work both ways.

   At this time I am focused on finding the real deal with the mentioned topic guys, and their shown self running devices.
Not your waste more time listening to your insulting opinions of my work and ideas, sir.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.23, 00:14:33
If you must know, yes. I used an aluminum sheet inside my grenade former tube cut and formed to fit it like a split tube.

But did you understand why, when you did it ?
What was its function ?  Were all the conditions satisfied for it to perform this function ?
Did you even know what these conditions were ?

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.23, 00:14:33
Maybe you can provide us with a resent video of a self runner, using a split tube grenade.

I do not archive videos, but I remember that SR193 had one.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.23, 00:14:33
But, we could use some help from those who have shown these types of devices self running. Not just guessing about what is needed for them work.

We do not have a choice.  This device is either fake or poorly documented.  In case of the latter, we must invent different operating principles and let them guide our builds.
Blindly adjusting a myriad of parameters and components is not feasible. I know that given enough time, typewriters and monkeys, all works of Shakespeare will be written eventually, ...but we will not live long enough for that.

Analyzing, adopting, experimenting and rejecting unsuccessful operating principles is faster than random parameter trial and error without following a guiding principle, ...a path which you have chosen to date.

Can you postulate a guiding operating principle that does not involve unmeasurable an unfalsifiable phenomena ?
Will you follow it wherever it guides you ?

   No, and no.
   Like I had said, I have already mentioned what I've done, and have mentioned what my understanding is many times.
   I am here to verify those things, test and video the results. Not to make wild guesses, like some.
Perhaps you can study up on it, sometime, if interested.  Or not.

  Akula mentioned how people would just throw dirt on him, his ideas and projects,  sounds familiar to me, as well.
He was an electronics enginner, I have heard. His scope shots are clear not blurry. Stalkers videos are very clear and consice. I am electronics assembler (was) now retired. 12 years building thousands of PCB, and many other devices.
   We have a choice, we can go and see and learn from them. Or keep guessing.
   I don't know anyone that tried to build a working replication, on their own. None that I know of, as yet, has succeded. Not as easy as some may think. Not to disuade any body, at all. Just saying...

   Yes, there certainly are errors in the schematics, diagrams, videos, etc. Possibly on purpose, or just mistakes needing more work to improve overheating, and other aspects.

   I don't blindly make claims, I have hundreds of hours and several years at hands on tests, and many videos.
I guess that you missed those as well. Plus I still have an almost complete and intact device replication, still.
   And I am not done... already my electric is free.
    I don't want nor need conventional electronic or current science, close circuit device mentalities.
Perhaps, only Slavish people may understand me...as that, is also in my blood.

   Nicola Zec

           NickZ

   

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.23, 03:51:17
No, and no.

I don't even know which questions these two replies refer to.
I asked you 6 questions and these are only 2 answers.  This is rude. You've been doing this repeatedly and now you are surprised at my attitude towards you.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.23, 03:51:17
Like I had said, I have already mentioned what I've done, and have mentioned what my understanding is many times.

Much could have changed in a year.
Do you even have a guiding operating principle that does not involve unmeasurable an unfalsifiable phenomena, now ?

  To answer your question. Yes, their has been much information provided on the mode of operations. Which you have obviously missed on. I have made no claims, just showing results. You have a problem with that???  Sure looks like it.
I have made no claims.  Get it prof! But you have daily negative claims about my person. Do you want to continue on my moderated thread, or not???
   I have decided that you are not worth the effort even to answer you. Make all the questions that you want. I will ignore you , if nothing else.  But, hopefully on another thread. Not mine. as you've blown it with me, sir.
Your questions and doubts mean little to me. 
I consider you rude, disruptive and agravating, plus you are now getting in my way. Which will be too bad, for you, and "I won't let you get away with it".
     
    NickZ 

       Double post deleted.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.23, 03:51:17
 

  Akula mentioned how people would just throw dirt on him, his ideas and projects,  sounds familiar to me, as well.

Roman Karnaukhov (Akula) - made fakes.
At one of the presentations in Germany, a hidden power source was found in his flashlight, it was a big shame.
He was a master at hiding power sources. He started making flashlights after a series of my videos, where I got unstable independent work.
Here is the video -https://dzen.ru/video/watch/64f0ed5609bb0574c6f1b618
Real ferroresonance does not produce as much as Karnaukhov later showed. The setting is so delicate and unstable that the device could go out at any moment.

His alleged follower, Ruslan Kalabukhov, hid an additional phase wire in the grounding wire. He became so insolent that he sold his "installation" to the Baltic. Of course, it worked great in his office, but in the Baltic states it no longer works.
A lot of people you mention here have done nothing worthwhile. Only fakes.
As a result, many people wasted time and money on repeating fakes that will never work!

The same goes for the SR-193 video.
He had an interesting idea: using a high-frequency and high-voltage pulse to build domains along a conductor, and then using multi-polar pulses to bend them in a group. Thereby obtaining an alternating magnetic field. But in reality it didn't work.
Approximate diagram in the figure.
Then he inserted a relay into his circuit and ran a hidden phase wire along the chair leg. All this was needed to promote his forum.

What if someone says, "I repeated his device," he is lying. I ask you to at least not mention them in this thread!

I have already said that I want to try more options with increasing current. For example, an option that is very similar to Kapanadze's installation with an oscillating circuit.I did experiments with a car light bulb resonator and grounding. Here is a short video where a light bulb burns in a broken ground wire

https://dzen.ru/video/watch/64e35a87cfe46f6376705889


As a result, the modified circuit will look like this.The current and voltage will swing the oscillatory circuit, and it will already be a PHASE for the light bulb. The spark gap on the circuit will control the amplitude; if it is exceeded, it will suppress the circuit's swing.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.23, 19:40:26
Roman Karnaukhov (Akula) - made fakes
....
His alleged follower, Ruslan Kalabukhov, hid an additional phase wire in the grounding wire.

Is this first-hand information ?

If these guys were fakers, then which ones were not ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.24, 05:33:27
Is this first-hand information ?

If these guys were fakers, then which ones were not ?

Have I discovered America for you? Your inner world is destroyed and will never be the same?

Hi DELAMORTO,

When you refer to the "hidden phase wire" or "additional phase wire" in your posts
above (also, likely, including Ruslan's "Demo in the Forest"):

Are these "phase wires" possibly related to the "Moon Phase" by chance? You failed
to mention how this "phase" is related to the devices functioning that you referenced.

If they worked with this "{hidden} phase wire" - then, maybe, just leave it in the circuit!  ;)

Just curious... and Good Luck with your designs. I look forward to hearing your theory
and your detailed technical analysis in whatever form (Analytic or Numeric, or both). Thanks.

BTW, I have seen some of the circuits you mention actually work, but the theory
of operation, and therefore a detailed technical analysis, still remains somewhat elusive.

OH, and thanks - you're a relative of Columbus are you! Cool...

SL

Quote from: solarlab on 2023.09.24, 08:36:55
Hi DELAMORTO,

When you refer to the "hidden phase wire" or "additional phase wire" in your posts
above (also, likely, including Ruslan's "Demo in the Forest"):

Are these "phase wires" possibly related to the "Moon Phase" by chance? You failed
to mention how this "phase" is related to the devices functioning that you referenced.

If they worked with this "{hidden} phase wire" - then, maybe, just leave it in the circuit!  ;)

Just curious... and Good Luck with your designs. I look forward to hearing your theory
and your detailed technical analysis in whatever form (Analytic or Numeric, or both). Thanks.

BTW, I have seen some of the circuits you mention actually work, but the theory
of operation, and therefore a detailed technical analysis, still remains somewhat elusive.

OH, and thanks - you're a relative of Columbus are you! Cool...

SL

isn't a phase wire referal relating to a live wire from a grid sauce ? re buyers  video series.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.24, 07:41:43
Have I discovered America for you? Your inner world is destroyed and will never be the same?

Didb't the Vikings rind it first, they never got lost at sea they used a special crystal
they sliced and polarised the suns rays there was a video on one of the TV channels some time
ago Horizon or Smith's ownian channel.

Sil

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.24, 07:41:43
Have I discovered America for you? Your inner world is destroyed and will never be the same?

No and you did not answer my questions:

Is this first-hand information ?
If these guys were fakers, then which ones were not ?

who give a hoot not me. but Nick is one for sure  >:-) >:-)

have you tried the plasma ball test ?

AG
Several here have tried "the plasma ball test"
Or Experiments ( you refer to Rick ?)

These attempts are in forum .. if you have had some verifiable success ( scalable gain mechanism?)you should share /teach?

What  has been missed by others ( obviously you have succeeded?

Also as previously mentioned ( you wrote the "very expensive info available on internet "
You refer to Ricks book ?
BTW
I just dropped a note to a fellow that attended latest Rick demonstration ( quite skilled fellow)
Will report his opinions

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.23, 19:40:26
Roman Karnaukhov (Akula) - made fakes.
At one of the presentations in Germany, a hidden power source was found in his flashlight, it was a big shame.
He was a master at hiding power sources. He started making flashlights after a series of my videos, where I got unstable independent work.
Here is the video -https://dzen.ru/video/watch/64f0ed5609bb0574c6f1b618
Real ferroresonance does not produce as much as Karnaukhov later showed. The setting is so delicate and unstable that the device could go out at any moment.

His alleged follower, Ruslan Kalabukhov, hid an additional phase wire in the grounding wire. He became so insolent that he sold his "installation" to the Baltic. Of course, it worked great in his office, but in the Baltic states it no longer works.
A lot of people you mention here have done nothing worthwhile. Only fakes.
As a result, many people wasted time and money on repeating fakes that will never work!

The same goes for the SR-193 video.
He had an interesting idea: using a high-frequency and high-voltage pulse to build domains along a conductor, and then using multi-polar pulses to bend them in a group. Thereby obtaining an alternating magnetic field. But in reality it didn't work.
Approximate diagram in the figure.
Then he inserted a relay into his circuit and ran a hidden phase wire along the chair leg. All this was needed to promote his forum.

What if someone says, "I repeated his device," he is lying. I ask you to at least not mention them in this thread!

Regarding Delamorto's claims that Akula made a fake in Germany and that Ruslan also made a fake, as well as SR193 made a fake, are all false.

There is absolutely no evidence for this. I followed these topics very closely. However, what is puzzling is the fact that in Germany, in Arthur Trankle's place, Roman was not able to make an installation that would exceed 40-60W of power. Wesley claims that Roman himself did not understand why this was happening and turned to him for help. Ruslan was accused of fraud by one guy (Sergey Panov) to whom Ruslan sold one of his devices. Wesley has a video on this topic on his channel (you can draw your own conclusions from it). As for SR, somewhere, someone noticed something in the photos that were too blurry to see anything concrete.

Yet, we have such a statement in a patent backed up by theory, explanations, method of operation and working device from which i quote:

QuoteIf one has input voltages at higher frequencies or could have there is therefore the possibility to generate free electric power , and at any scale level . It is possible by properly choosing the length of the wires , inductances and capacities with respect to the input frequency with a simple circuit , as described above, to bring frequencies at a high level with very low losses, in which case a number of these circuits must be drawn up . as a " cascade "

Just try to imagine the effect of +5 harmonics of standing waves and the power obtainable using 9v battery with a proper design

Quote from: Chet K on 2023.09.24, 12:51:51
AG
Several here have tried "the plasma ball test"
Or Experiments ( you refer to Rick ?)

These attempts are in forum .. if you have had some verifiable success ( scalable gain mechanism?)you should share /teach?

What  has been missed by others ( obviously you have succeeded?

Also as previously mentioned ( you wrote the "very expensive info available on internet "
You refer to Ricks book ?
BTW
I just dropped a note to a fellow that attended latest Rick demonstration ( quite skilled fellow)
Will report his opinions

Have you any pointers to this test I would have to try it as discribed first before i make any comments.
This isn't the correct test  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kVPASGCZIk

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.24, 12:41:07


have you tried the plasma ball test ?

I apologize for assuming you were referring to a useful result ( first hand) you were trying to share !
Which several have done on forum already ( no useful results ( scalable gain mechanism))

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.24, 14:06:10
Have you any pointers to this test I would have to try it as discribed first before i make any comments.
This isn't the correct test  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kVPASGCZIk

Are you referring to the Don Smith device? See attached below.

Cheers Grum.

  As I have suggested, that a working device which runs on ambient energies may not work in another location. And may need to be retuned for that new area. I understood that was the case in Germany. And retuning may need more time than he was given.
The flashlight power source designs are another type of circuit, not even related to high output self runners. I doubt that that suppose source could run Kwatts for more than a few minutes, or even a few seconds.
Also, Wesley mentioned that tests were done at Akula's house by three people, known and trusted people to determine if there is a fake power source. None were found. The device worked as shown in that video, by three witnesses who examined the device first hand. If that device failed in Germany, yet produced some wattage for the bulbs. That is not a fake, at all. Let's see you do that. Even 10 watts, but you can't, after your supposed 15 years, at it.
  So I am very leary of what Delamorto suggests.  I don't believe his line of reasoning. Which he now comes to tell us, without the least bit if proof, after years have past. And,  now he is here to do what? To discover America for us??? Funny...

   NickZ

I have been cooking in this kitchen for 15 years. I know everyone and not just from the forum. Personal communications, telegrams, Skype and so on...
I saw nothing but fakes and nonsense.
Do you yourself not notice how interest in this topic is fading? The reason is simple - no result, numerous deceptions by others

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.24, 14:23:05
  As I have suggested, that a working device which runs on ambient energies may not work in another location. And may need to be retuned for that new area. I understood that was the case in Germany. And retuning may need more time than he was given.
The flashlight power source designs are another type of circuit, not even related to high output self runners. I doubt that that suppose source could run Kwatts for more than a few minutes, or even a few seconds.
Also, Wesley mentioned that tests were done at Akula's house by three people, known and trusted people to determine if there is a fake power source. None were found. The device worked as shown in that video, by three witnesses who examined the device first hand. If that device failed in Germany, yet produced some wattage for the bulbs. That is not a fake, at all. Let's see you do that. Even 10 watts, but you can't, after your supposed 15 years, at it.
  So I am very leary of what Delamorto suggests.  I don't believe his line of reasoning. Which he now comes to tell us, without the least bit if proof, after years have past. And,  now he is here to do what? To discover America for us??? Funny...

   NickZ

Regarding text in bold, can you tell me what is the angle difference between geographic north and magnetic north ? And role gravity plays in a magnetic field ?

Quote from: Classic on 2023.09.24, 15:46:48
Regarding text in bold, can you tell me what is the angle difference between geographic north and magnetic north ? And role gravity plays in a magnetic field ?

Ask Wesley ;D ;D

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.24, 14:37:45
I have been cooking in this kitchen for 15 years. I know everyone and not just from the forum. Personal communications, telegrams, Skype and so on...
I saw nothing but fakes and nonsense.
Do you yourself not notice how interest in this topic is fading? The reason is simple - no result, numerous deceptions by others

Earlyer on you were saying about the Eternal flash light I made of them it didn't work namly there must be the way I wound it can you give any help on how to wind the ferrite device bobbin please.

Sil

How naive! Latitude and longitude have nothing to do with it. His device was disassembled and a hidden source of energy was found - a battery.
The same people who took him to Germany were in Akula's house.
The video was simply made to create excitement.
If anything, I know these people very well, and we communicated very closely. The whole topic of free energy rests on investors. For free, Kapanadze didn't even show how his installation works. This is business, nothing personal.

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.24, 16:00:14
Earlyer on you were saying about the Eternal flash light I made of them it didn't work namly there must be the way I wound it can you give any help on how to wind the ferrite device bobbin please.

Sil

I assembled this device for 6 months. I then had enough persistence and desire. I posted all the experiments on its creation on the forum. How I saw the effect, how I used it and what I got..... a pathetic half-luminous LED with a very unstable circuit. Advice - don't waste your time on this. Better let's start the project from page 1.

Quote from: Classic on 2023.09.24, 15:46:48
Regarding text in bold, can you tell me what is the angle difference between geographic north and magnetic north ? And role gravity plays in a magnetic field ?

   Classic:
   I don't believe in what is called  "Gravity". That is another error and a missnomer in current science, still.
I won't get into that here, now.
   I think that about 15 degrees deviation, as this is always increasing. Airports have had to reconfigure their landing  navigational instruments, such as in Miami, a couple of times or more, so far.
   That can be one of the reasons that self runners can fail, or have limited output after being moved, or after the passing of time. And that is also one of the drawbacks of these types ambient harvesting devices, needing an Earth groundline connection,  are these types of issues.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.24, 17:01:17


   Classic:
   I don't believe in what is called  "Gravity". That is another error and a missnomer in current science, still.
I won't get into that here, now.
   I think that about 15 degrees deviation, as this is always increasing. Airports have had to reconfigure their landing  navigational instruments, such as in Miami, a couple if times so far.
   That can be one of the reasons that self runners can fail, or have limited output after being moved, or after the passing of time. And that is one of the drawbacks of these types ambient harvesting devices, needing an Earth groundline connections, are these types of issues.

   NickZ

There is no desire to have discussions on the topic - I believe it, I don't believe it. There is a desire to assemble a device from 1 post. Together with someone. Let me explain, I need a different look at the work, perhaps a different execution. Let's write sticking to the theme of the topic.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.24, 17:01:17


   Classic:
   I don't believe in what is called  "Gravity". That is another error and a missnomer in current science, still.
I won't get into that here, now.
   I think that about 15 degrees deviation, as this is always increasing. Airports have had to reconfigure their landing  navigational instruments, such as in Miami, a couple if times so far.
   That can be one of the reasons that self runners can fail, or have limited output after being moved, or after the passing of time. And that is one of the drawbacks of these types ambient harvesting devices, needing an Earth groundline connections, are these types of issues.

   NickZ

NickZ
[/quote]In the 1960's there was this guy who worked a a large electrical energy retailer (John Serl) he had made this rotary magnetic
generator with programmed sine wave ferrite magnets that sat in a copper tube that some how ran it self with driver coils on the out side of the housing in a circle he recon when powered up it took off and smashed through the ceiling roof (welsh slates). Apparently he got into trouble with the electric company and the HAM radio licensing board as he used and made a second device radio controlled, in those days
the Electric company was controlled by the government and apparently he used one to power his home. However he moved to America and  now cant make anything as it's all under the carpet, what a joke.

Sil
PS anyway you could run another thread on this subject !

   Delamorto:
   Although I am not a Kapanadze follower, or of his devices, ideas, patents, and such. But that is the topic, here.
Although I have seen all of Tariel's videos, from the first video to his last one, before his death.
  I'm  not sure about your intensions here, or just what you want to do. Perhaps you don't know how to proceed, now that you have dissed all the known and shown self runners, as just fakes.

  Do you also think that kapanadze in his last and best video is showing a fake as well? The one where his son licks the ground line?
   I don't really know who you are or what you REALLY know. How's about some proof of what you mention. As that will be asked here, by some.
  Much appreciated,  if you decide to share some actual facts. Not heresays ...

   NickZ

This video is many years old. I then identified the principle and did many experiments. Yes, I have a wealth of knowledge. That's why I claim that nothing like Kapanadze's generator has yet been assembled.
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/64dbe9c89910b52921cb132c

And now 2 facts from Kapanadze:
"I have invented a RESONATOR that automatically adjusts the resonance between two coils"
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/64e489e98d114068e84bace7

"We need a chip that regulates the frequency depending on the load"
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/64e12da322e35358b6d72983

He said everything a long time ago, you just didn't understand him.
Leave the broadcast alone. As well as the environment. Take a look at Kapanadze's patents, a coil with a low frequency is affected by a coil with a high frequency. This is the direction, not all the sparkles...

This one looks like the simplest with just HV capacitor discharge which supports my idea that the essence is coils interaction. Input can be anything interrupted like capacitor discharge, frequency of input is not important

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ4vws5V7H0

   Yes, simple... " So simple you laugh"

   NickZ

In one of the videos, Kapanadze says that the transistor burned out and was replaced with a spark gap. In the circuit below, the frequency does not depend on the opening frequency, but on the capacitance of the capacitor. Also in one of his videos, he stated that when the grounding was turned off, their electromagnet burned out. Compare the facts, use your head!

   Use my head? Well, I'm asking for proof.
You say that Akula had hidden a battery somewhere into his device. Where? Even though it did not work in Germany. It was taken apart by who, and what battery was found. Sorry, but this all sounds like rumors or disinformation, to me.

  One of the three people doing the testing at Akula's house video was Tiger, the other was a German guy Stefan. They were there to make sure that there are NO hidden input sources. And none were found.
  Stefan made a video of a self runner, shown working outside in the snow using no external input, other than a hand crank to charge some start capacitors only.  Just to kick start the device. Also fake?
   So you personally know these guys.
Really???

   Tariel in his later videos used complicated circuitry, MOSFETs not spark gaps.Circuits that he was not able to make.

   NickZ

the more energy you use the more power is produced. going off ito space.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.24, 19:07:30
   Use my head? Well, I'm asking for proof.
You say that Akula had hidden a battery somewhere into his device. Where? Even though it did not work in Germany. It was taken apart by who, and what battery was found. Sorry, but this all sounds like rumors or disinformation, to me.

  One of the three people doing the testing at Akula's house video was Tiger, the other was a German guy Stefan. They were there to make sure that there are NO hidden input sources. And none were found.
  Stefan made a video of a self runner, shown working outside in the snow using no external input, other than a hand crank to charge some start capacitors only.  Just to kick start the device. Also fake?
   So you personally know these guys.
Really???

   NickZ

Where did you see the German there?!
There was Vitaly (Tiger), he lives in Kazakhstan. And my friends from the company - Volodya and Arkady. The grounding cable contained a separate phase conductor. The grounding cable contained a separate phase conductor!!!What the wire was screwed to was a water well, there was an electric pump. They cut this wire on video - no, everything was carefully prepared - this is a fake demonstration for believers like you.
Kapanadze screwed the grounding wire in place with his own hands. Akula installation, it was already connected, there is no video showing how he connected it. Do you feel there is something wrong? They showed you what you wanted to see, and not what it really was - a simple trick!

I'm tired of stupid questions, you can believe what you want, I can't forbid engaging in self-deception. >:(

  So, this stupid to you. Did you actually see the video that Wesley made about the inspection at Akula's house. No?
You don't know the blond guy there in the video? Stefanov? They did not show hidden wires in the ground line in the video. So, even Tiger did not see a hidden wire in the ground line that was inspected carefully. So, how do you know that there was a hidden wire??? Stupid question?...

  You come and piss on all self runners as fakes. Provide no actual proof, and just expect us to believe it?
That sounds stupid, to me.   Why are you here if you think that all shown self runners are all faked.
Sorry, not going for it...
 
    NickZ

The blonde in the video is Arkady Stepanov, he's Russian!Voice-over: Volodya Khorikov, he is also making this video for a partner from Germany.
The gray-haired man in the gray jacket is Vitaly (Tiger). Where did you see Stefan from Germany?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J5l5Ey8-js 

Maybe there is another video where they show the same thing to an investor... Well, you know why)))
But it does not change anything!


I have no intention of deceiving for money or fame! My goal is to study the diagram from 1 post from all sides.

From now on, ask questions about faker installations in their thread! The question regarding them is closed here.

  Nothing is closed, you provide NO proof.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.24, 20:08:52
  Nothing is closed, you provide NO proof.

   NickZ

Personally, I don't owe you anything! In another thread, discuss Akulas, here is a topic about Kapanadze. OK?


How can I get moderation for this topic, I want to remove the garbage?

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.24, 20:13:09
... here is a topic about Kapanadze. OK?

Does that mean that Tarial Kapanadze was not a faker ?  Yes or No.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.09.24, 20:21:18
Does that mean that Tarial Kapanadze was not a faker ?  Yes or No.

I have doubts only about one device. The one that was demonstrated to Wesley. Only because Kapanadze himself could not assemble it.

Hi Delamorto,

i notice your post #1 video link is dead, but it can be found here: https://dzen.ru/delamorto

I made a compilation of the data given so far in this diagram, is it accurate?:


(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4510.0;attach=49073;image)


The FG (what frequency are we running?) can be found here: https://aliexpress.ru/item/32839042221.html?sku_id=12000022945348976
The inverter (non modified sine (modified sine better)) can be found here (no transformer included):  https://aliexpress.ru/item/4000438023280.html?sku_id=10000001805672738

What output voltage needs the transformer feeding the FG be?

Moderation can be asked for by the admin Peterae, so send him a PM asking for it

Thanks, regard Itsu

There can be no definite exact data on the resonator. I wandered without calculations. This is why I posted a diagram on this forum so that the resonator could be made in its own way (diameter, number of turns, etc.). I need alternative results!
I powered the inverter and high-frequency generator from 12 volts. But no one forbids powering a high-frequency generator from 30 volts and getting more current.
I have already given a drawing of the calculation of the resonator according to the proportion.
The drawing is not mine, I do not understand the symbols. I liked the proportions of the turns. The frequency depends on the load, I took a Chinese PWM with a maximum frequency of 150 kHz

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.24, 20:45:11
I have doubts only about one device. The one that was demonstrated to Wesley. Only because Kapanadze himself could not assemble it.

   Are you saying that Tariel was who built that device in the diagram? And all others that he has shown were not his builds, such as his last one that I mentioned? If you have doubts about only one device, why do you denounce all others as fakes. You know that there has been no successfull replications of any of of Tariel's devices. Do you not think that something is wrong?

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.24, 21:02:06


   Are you saying that Tariel was who built that device in the diagram? And all others that he has shown were not his builds, such as his last one that I mentioned? If you have doubts about only one device, why do you denounce all others as fakes. You know that there has been no successfull replications of any of of Tariel's devices. Do you not think that something is wrong?

   NickZ

This means that Tariel successfully defended his principle by using extra boards and the myth of energy from the environment. Also, the sparks in his installations gave everyone the wrong direction. Learn sir....
He also stated that the principle is so simple that if you find out, you will laugh!

   Sorry for all my questions. I am trying to learn. I am of Slavic blood, try me, with your logic.
  What is so different about what you are trying to successfully replicate? Trying to understand you better.
  We have not laughed at his theory. Nor discovered how simple it is, so far, after over 10 years.
   NickZ

Mr Delamorto Thanks for reply and yes all these interruptions are so annoying.
you need to talk to admin about MODERATION  'CHET K' ambassador
or 'Peterae' administrator 

Regards (AG)  Sil

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.24, 20:53:18
There can be no definite exact data on the resonator. I wandered without calculations. This is why I posted a diagram on this forum so that the resonator could be made in its own way (diameter, number of turns, etc.). I need alternative results!
I powered the inverter and high-frequency generator from 12 volts. But no one forbids powering a high-frequency generator from 30 volts and getting more current.
I have already given a drawing of the calculation of the resonator according to the proportion.
The drawing is not mine, I do not understand the symbols. I liked the proportions of the turns. The frequency depends on the load, I took a Chinese PWM with a maximum frequency of 150 kHz

Thanks, i understand for the need for alternative results.

Concerning the drawing of the resonator, when i search Google for such an image (not your modified one in post #124, but the original one in your post #76) i find several sources as can be seen here: https://tinyurl.com/3pvrdsf8

They all seem to point the the "Kapagen Generator", so some research in that direction might be worthwhile.


One thing about your used inverter, this seems to me to be a simple modified sine inverter (so not a pure sine inverter), so why do you say in reply #26 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4510.msg107079#msg107079) this:  "I think it would be more desirable to use a circuit with a modified sine here"?     

It IS a modified sine inverter to my knowledge.

Regards Itsu

When I modulated the circuit, I virtually got this form. It is better suited for swinging of the 2nd version of the circuit oscillatory circuit

Hmmm, on your video's i see more like a square wave (modified sine) modulation, see below picture.

What do you mean by "the 2nd version of the circuit oscillatory circuit"/


Itsu

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.25, 11:01:39
Hmmm, on your video's i see more like a square wave (modified sine) modulation, see below picture.

What do you mean by "the 2nd version of the circuit oscillatory circuit"/


Itsu

Yes, because my inverter output is a square wave, not a sine wave....

   Itsu:
   Are you suggesting that this green box schematic is a actually a Kapagen circuit. Not made by Tariel and not a self running circuit?

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.25, 13:49:08
   Itsu:
   Are you suggesting that this green box schematic is a actually a Kapagen circuit. Not made by Tariel and not a self running circuit?

   NickZ

I do it according to the principle described in the patent. And you, according to any principle that was hung on your ears

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.24, 21:07:24

He also stated that the principle is so simple that if you find out, you will laugh!

No. It was Castaneda Carlos or Don Juan who said "everything is so simple that it is impossible to understand" ;)

Here is an example of a circuit from another Kapanadze patent. Just to understand the technical level of his circuits. Everything is done not on specialized chips, but the old fashioned way....

 
No. It was Castaneda Carlos or Don Juan who said "everything is so simple that it is impossible to understand" ;)
[/quote]

  Yes, so simple you laugh. But, no one is laughing...
  It's Carlos Castaneda. But more than likely it was Don Juan who said it.
Great books... still very valuable, but forgotten knowledge. Like these circuits that no one can get to work.

  NickZ

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 14:00:01
  I do it according to the principle described in the patent. And you, according to any principle that was hung on your ears

   Really! I don't do this, at all
  So, I ask an important question, and you reply with insults. Verpies asks you a question and you ignore him.
  Sorry, I did not know that Kapagen replications had a patent. Nor OU, nor self running, ever.
  Ok, anyway, I get it. It's all coming clear now.

   NickZ

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.25, 09:11:28
...
It IS a modified sine inverter to my knowledge.
...

Itsu,

A modified sine wave inverter uses stepped rectangular waves to approximate a sine wave.  The simplest modified sine has +/- going rectangular waves separated in time along the zero reference line.  This reduces low order harmonic distortion.  With the simple modified sine waveform described above, the first harmonics that will be produced are the fifth at -13.5dB and the seventh at -16.9dB.

Adding additional steps in the modified sine waveform pushes the first harmonics produced out to even higher harmonics and further reduces their amplitudes as well.  This allows low-order low-pass filters to be used to smooth the output and produce something closer to a pure sine wave.

Delamorto appears to be using a simple square wave inverter.

PW

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 12:09:17
Yes, because my inverter output is a square wave, not a sine wave....

Hmmm, we seem to have some misunderstanding here, but never mind for now.
You have a modified sine inverter (square wave)  O0

Itsu

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.25, 13:49:08
   Itsu:
   Are you suggesting that this green box schematic is a actually a Kapagen circuit. Not made by Tariel and not a self running circuit?

   NickZ

Nick,

no, i am not suggesting that.

All i am saying is that the resonator in Delamorto his circuit seems to be based on the resonator shown in the Kapagen Generator circuit.

Itsu

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.09.25, 14:33:04
Itsu,

A modified sine wave inverter uses stepped rectangular waves to approximate a sine wave.  The simplest modified sine has +/- going rectangular waves separated in time along the zero reference line.  This reduces low order harmonic distortion.  With the simple modified sine waveform described above, the first harmonics that will be produced are the fifth at -13.5dB and the seventh at -16.9dB.

Adding additional steps in the modified sine waveform pushes the first harmonics produced out to even higher harmonics and further reduces their amplitudes as well.  This allows low-order low-pass filters to be used to smooth the output and produce something closer to a pure sine wave.

Delamorto appears to be using a simple square wave inverter.

PW

Hi PW,

thanks for confirming that.

I was thrown off by his picture in his post #130 where he shows a "pure sine wave" modulated signal while on his video's he shows the "modified sine wave" modulated signal.

My 150W modified sine wave inverter produces this kind of output signal while loaded with a 25W bulb:

Itsu 

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.25, 14:48:45

Hi PW,

thanks for confirming that.

I was thrown off by his picture in his post #130 where he shows a "pure sine wave" modulated signal while on his video's he shows the "modified sine wave" modulated signal.

My 150W modified sine wave inverter produces this kind of output signal while loaded with a 25W bulb:

Itsu

We have the same hardware)) Make a resonator!

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.25, 14:29:58
   Really! I don't do this, at all

   NickZ

Then don't bother others!

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.25, 14:19:24

Like these circuits that no one can get to work.

Yes,that's exactly. :)

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.25, 14:48:45

Hi PW,

thanks for confirming that.

I was thrown off by his picture in his post #130 where he shows a "pure sine wave" modulated signal while on his video's he shows the "modified sine wave" modulated signal.

My 150W modified sine wave inverter produces this kind of output signal while loaded with a 25W bulb:

Itsu

The waveform you posted of your inverter output is not what is produced from a modified sine wave inverter.  Your posted waveform is what is output from a square wave inverter.  If your inverter is labeled as a modified sine inverter, they are not stating the truth. 

As I previously stated, the simplest modified sine uses +/- going rectangular waves (not square) separated by time at the zero ref line.  That is the simplest and lowest cost waveform produced from low cost modified sine inverters.  Higher quality/cost modified sine inverters use additional rectangular steps to better approximate a sine wave which eliminates additional low order harmonics.  A simple LC low-pass at the output can then be used to eliminate the higher order harmonics and produce a relatively pure sine wave.

Some newer modified sine wave inverters use PWM to approximate the sine wave and after passing that through a low order low-pass produce a fairly pure sine wave.

PW

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.09.25, 16:13:26
The waveform you posted of your inverter output is not what is produced from a modified sine wave inverter.  Your posted waveform is what is output from a square wave inverter.  If your inverter is labeled as a modified sine inverter, they are not stating the truth. 

As I previously stated, the simplest modified sine uses +/- going rectangular waves (not square) separated by time at the zero ref line.  That is the simplest and lowest cost waveform produced from low cost modified sine inverters.  Higher quality/cost modified sine inverters use additional rectangular steps to better approximate a sine wave which eliminates additional low order harmonics.  A simple LC low-pass at the output can then be used to eliminate the higher order harmonics and produce a relatively pure sine wave.

Some newer modified sine wave inverters use PWM to approximate the sine wave and after passing that through a low order low-pass produce a fairly pure sine wave.

PW

Yes . A capacitance at the transformer output of 1-2 mF will make the shape softer. But for a scheme with 1 post this is not required. A square wave will also work.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 16:35:50
Yes . A capacitance at the transformer output of 1-2 mF will make the shape softer. But for a scheme with 1 post this is not required. A square wave will also work.

A square wave works better actually

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 14:09:56
Here is an example of a circuit from another Kapanadze patent. Just to understand the technical level of his circuits. Everything is done not on specialized chips, but the old fashioned way....

Delamorto,

FYI - the attached zip file contains 109 schematics that, in one form or another, relate to the Kapanzdze device.
Contains lots of ideas and such! There are now likely even more that can be added to the archive.

Just thought I'd share some of the work that has been attempted regarding the subject - FYI...

Regards,

SL

Attached is a "Functional Schematic" approach.

When used with several "Synchronized Function Generators" some interesting
technical data can be gathered.

Just another FYI...

SL

Attached a pdf of the "Ruslan - Absolute" functional approach;

this might be more "readable"

Attached an analysis of Ruslan's "4KW Demo in the Forest."

Contains, amongst other things, a posutlate as the where some of the
"excess energy" comes from and "how it's generated." See the "blue"
text.

Again, just an FYI...

SL

SUMMARY

I came to this forum {Dally, Shark & Ruslan workbench} only to share two very important findings. These
two questions have appeared time and again in excess energy discussions as far back as the subject
itself.

1. Where does the excess energy come from?

2. How does this excess energy couple into a system like the Kapanadze or Ruslan scheme?

And I have detailed a viable postulation that answers both these questions with accompanying theory
and support papers, etc..

That's it - my simple mission so to speak!

Of course, along the way, I have provided some other directly related, valuable, information as well.
(review my posts)

On the 11th of November 2021 I posted (Reply #2374) the following:

Notable is the Katcher pulse burst timing with respect to the Grenade Coil (GC) signal. The concept is
different from the electron bunching found in a TWT but, I believe, the mechanism (Velocity
Modulation) is similar.

In simple terms:

- a signal propagates through the GC, signal wavefront speed is set by the signal frequency (phase),
- but must be slowed down by the Slow Wave Structure (SWS) of the GC helical coil,
- normally the GC signal wavefront would propagate at near the speed of light (C or 3x108 m/s),
- the GC signal wavefront must be slowed to match the speed of the Electron pulse burst created by the Katcher,
- Electron pulse burst speed is set by the Katcher voltage [recall e = mc2] where e=energy, m=electron mass,
- and c=speed of light, but in this case the velocity is v2 set by the Katcher high voltage, the square part is bonus,
- now, when the signal wavefron and the electron speed nearly match, energy is transfered to the signal,
- the "free energy" is realized by the v2 term (e = mv2), high voltage sets the v term which is squared,
- energy transfer mechanism is clearly provided and proven in the Traveling Wave Tube analysis and operation.

Essentially there are three (3) variables we control and one (1) consideration:

- Slow Wave Structure (SWS), our grenade coil, including pitch and length (transaction time) ;
- Signal Frequency on the Grenade Coil, which sets the signal wavefront speed along with the SWS;
- Electron propagation speed or velocity, determined by the Voltage set by the Katcher or TT;
- Physical placement of the components need to match a viable layout for the interactions to occur.

Notable references/proofs to 1. and 2. above include:

- "The Ultimate Speed - An Exploration with High Energy Electrons," an MIT video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0BOpiMQXQA

- "Q&A The theory of the origin of SE or where it came from" - a Stalker video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syf5_fLPzrw&list=PLRYhzUMB2BkLXLVDOUIhc1TUZTq1WvPT&index=92

- Numerous Traveling Wave Tube - Velocity Modulation papers, patents, references and so forth.

- Simplified functional schematics
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4154.msg96060#msg96060

So, in conclusion I will declare this part of the mission is accomplished.

Since there appears to be very few of us still involved in this endevour, we need to double the effort,
perfect these systems and spread the technology.

Take care, stay safe and may luck be with you.

SL

Maybe Kapanadze device work on the same principle as C. Earl Ammann device and needs activator transmitter nearby ?

http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg1.htm

Don't be offended - it's all rubbish.
Just look at the coffee can in Kapanadze's video...what could fit in there other than a toggle switch.

Quote from: forest on 2023.09.25, 18:46:20
Maybe Kapanadze device work on the same principle as C. Earl Ammann device and needs activator transmitter nearby ?

http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg1.htm

Or, the "transmitter" might actually be the "HV fed, so called, Antenna" surrounding the Grenade Coils - pulse modulated by the
Tesla (or other) High Voltage generator. Kind-of like an old style "Spark-Gap Transmitter."

Note that CFL and Florescent tubes, and other things, light-up and get charged when around the "Antenna" or other Tesla Coil!
Where, and how, does this energy transfer?

If it's synchronized with the Grenade signal; would it aid/or and assist the output energy amplification function?
[perhaps - Velocity Modulation?]

Your guess, or my guess, is as good as anyones! 

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 19:02:56
Don't be offended - it's all rubbish.

And, your "Theory - Postulation" is what?

You must at leeast have an idea of how it works - otherwise you're just "shooting-in-the-dark"
hoping you'll hit something - but even if you do hit something, you won't know how you did it
or what you hit...

Quote from: solarlab on 2023.09.25, 19:04:31


And, your "Theory - Postulation" is what?

I will not check crazy schemes, they make no sense.
Kapanadze spoke about the Linde effect when he pointed at the piece of paper in the video. Compare what Pantyukhov wanted to get - this is an increase in energy in the circuit that feeds it. Look at my circuit with 1 post - there is an increase in current in the circuit that powers the current amplifier. This is the Linde effect, where the output energy is used to increase efficiency. The scheme should unwind itself.

In this thread only my scheme is discussed. If you want to discuss your archive, open another topic. Garbage dumping happens as it comes. Therefore, strict moderation is needed.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 19:09:58
I will not check crazy schemes, they make no sense.
Kapanadze spoke about the Linde effect when he pointed at the piece of paper in the video. Compare what Pantyukhov wanted to get - this is an increase in energy in the circuit that feeds it. Look at my circuit with 1 post - there is an increase in current in the circuit that powers the current amplifier. This is the Linde effect, where the output energy is used to increase efficiency.

Nobody is asking you to do anything - not even nay-say viable theories - without good technical argument!

BUT, if you have your own "Theory of Operation" you are welcome to share it,
we're good listeners as well!

Write it up (properly) and share it - that's all!

Quote from: solarlab on 2023.09.25, 19:12:42


Nobody is asking you to do anything - not even nay-say viable theories!

BUT, if you have your own "Theory of Operation" you are welcome to share it,
we're good listeners as well!

Write it up (properly) and share it - that's all!

You will understand Russian, I can only write in others.
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/65057fbfb8050824ebcbae64

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 19:15:06
You will understand Russian, I can only write in others.
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/65057fbfb8050824ebcbae64

Not sure that's related to this subject - metal detector? Please explain how it's related,
then again, don't bother - it's not - it's all just rubbish!"

This is absolutely great info ... quite interesting to see the "same" explanation in Arie deGeus Fluid Continuum Universale and a much simplified circuit which is doing the same with improved efficiency. The difference in the documents stand in deGeus add of Aether in explanation and provided excellent details with all formula in an academic and scientific way.
Also describe in his book how electrons survive in a aether vortex which is created with this type of devices.

In his 2 series equal capacity connected capacitors we can discover phase shift 180 dgree or 135 degrees shift to double frequency by using 1 of the 2 caps at double value capacity.

Also, common in device construction is usage of standing waves where 1 end of a coil is left unconnected and all waves are simply reflected back in the system multiplying all the effects by many times depending on number of harmonics given by length of wires which are multiple of 1/2 wave length in his device. Where also mention that a cascade of such simple circuit can be used for energy generation.

Worth to mention that Arie deGeus have a patent granted (and expired  :D), and the patent has been granted after was backed up by explanatory theory, calculus and a working device if someone need a proof for an fe and ou device that has been investigated and concluded by patent office.

1- the inverter creates 220 volts of alternating voltage from 12 at the input. This voltage is supplied through a resonator to a step-down transformer, which powers the high-frequency generator of the current amplifier.
2- the high frequency from the generator affects the resonator, which in resonance raises the current in the TRANSFORMER circuit of the inverter - TRANSFORMER of the high-frequency generator.
3- When the current amplifier operates, the consumption at the inverter input drops and the current in the circuit increases.
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/65052805ee312639aaa9221c

Quote from: solarlab on 2023.09.25, 19:18:36


Not sure that's related to this subject - metal detector? Please explain how it's related,
then again, don't bother - it's not - it's all just rubbish!"

I just got the wrong link. corrected.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.09.25, 16:13:26
The waveform you posted of your inverter output is not what is produced from a modified sine wave inverter.  Your posted waveform is what is output from a square wave inverter.  If your inverter is labeled as a modified sine inverter, they are not stating the truth. 

As I previously stated, the simplest modified sine uses +/- going rectangular waves (not square) separated by time at the zero ref line.  That is the simplest and lowest cost waveform produced from low cost modified sine inverters.  Higher quality/cost modified sine inverters use additional rectangular steps to better approximate a sine wave which eliminates additional low order harmonics.  A simple LC low-pass at the output can then be used to eliminate the higher order harmonics and produce a relatively pure sine wave.

Some newer modified sine wave inverters use PWM to approximate the sine wave and after passing that through a low order low-pass produce a fairly pure sine wave.

PW

PW,

agreed, my Alecto Power inverter seems to be a square wave inverter, not a modified sine wave inverter, but they nowhere claim it is, my bad.

Years ago i build a low power inverter using a PIC16F628A chip which does work as a modified sine wave inverter as shown by its output, see 1st screenshot below.

2nd screenshot is with a 1uF capacitor across the output.

Thanks for the info.

Itsu

  He wants us all to just shut up, and have someone make a circuit for him that he has no idea how the make. So it self runs. But, shows us some thing else, instead. I wonder what it does, when disconnected to the input source. Nothing?
Sorry I don't get it....

NickZ

The first form is excellent, with a pause!

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.25, 19:32:04
  He wants us all to just shut up, and have someone make a circuit for him that he has no idea how the make. So it self runs. But, shows us some thing else, instead. I wonder what it does, when disconnected to the input source. Nothing?
Sorry I don't get it....

NickZ

I'm waiting for the inverter module to get a stable 220 volts. Personally, your help may simply be silence.

I can handle it just fine on my own. But I'm interested in alternative resonators, how they will work. I am also interested in repetitions according to the scheme by other people.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 19:22:03
1- the inverter creates 220 volts of alternating voltage from 12 at the input. This voltage is supplied through a resonator to a step-down transformer, which powers the high-frequency generator of the current amplifier.
2- the high frequency from the generator affects the resonator, which in resonance raises the current in the TRANSFORMER circuit of the inverter - TRANSFORMER of the high-frequency generator.
3- When the current amplifier operates, the consumption at the inverter input drops and the current in the circuit increases.
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/65052805ee312639aaa9221c

Thanks - that's "pretty much" the same theory - high frequency plus high voltage (pulsed antenna via tesla HV) increases the resonator output.

We are on the same page - now we need the "transfer mechanism" explained in technical terms - I like the Traveling Wave theory (velocity modulation).

No problem - I figured this one out a long time ago, at least to where the bench tests worked.

Sorry, didn't mean to rain on your Parade!

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 19:22:03
1- the inverter creates 220 volts of alternating voltage from 12 at the input. This voltage is supplied through a resonator to a step-down transformer, which powers the high-frequency generator of the current amplifier.
2- the high frequency from the generator affects the resonator, which in resonance raises the current in the TRANSFORMER circuit of the inverter - TRANSFORMER of the high-frequency generator.
3- When the current amplifier operates, the consumption at the inverter input drops and the current in the circuit increases.
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/65052805ee312639aaa9221c

Point 2 is important, it creates the Linde effect. This is what others were missing.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 19:02:56
Don't be offended - it's all rubbish.
Just look at the coffee can in Kapanadze's video...what could fit in there other than a toggle switch.

   Well, just keep guessing. I saw what was inside of that can, no toggle switch. Would not need a can for a toggle switch. I believe that I saw what looks like a transformer, many years ago...
   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.09.25, 19:46:17

   Well, just keep guessing. I saw what was inside of that can, no toggle switch. Would not need a can for a toggle switch. I believe that I saw what looks like a transformer, many years ago...
   NickZ

I don't care what you saw in your fantasies.

In this video, I connected a step-down transformer with a rectifier to a light bulb. But since my inverter produces 100 volts in total, the output on the step-down transformer is 5 volts constant, without any interference. This means that the transformer accepted this batch correctly.

https://dzen.ru/video/watch/65057fbfb8050824ebcbae64

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 19:59:49
I don't care what you saw in your fantasies.
   

  Delamorto;
  Really, seams like that, to you? So, you say that he needed to hide a "toggle switch", in a can? Right...
Sounds like a fantasy, to me. As that was not what I saw. I saw a trasformer, you saw a toggle switch, ok.
  We'll leave it at that.
Hopefully your "resonator" does not take long to make, with unknown specs.

   NickZ

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 15:17:18
We have the same hardware)) Make a resonator!

Something like this:


2.8cm diameter / 15cm long former with 120 turns of 1mm thick wire bifilar wound CW.
Both ends have a thicker wire 6 turn coil wound CCW.
left side has a 2cm diameter / 4cm long ferrite rod inside.


Itsu

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.25, 19:26:38


PW,

agreed, my Alecto Power inverter seems to be a square wave inverter, not a modified sine wave inverter, but they nowhere claim it is, my bad.

Years ago i build a low power inverter using a PIC16F628A chip which does work as a modified sine wave inverter as shown by its output, see 1st screenshot below.

2nd screenshot is with a 1uF capacitor across the output.

Thanks for the info.

Itsu

Itsu,

That is indeed the simplest version of a modified sine wave.  Instead of just a cap across the output, add an inductor (choke) in series between output and cap for a second order low pass.  This gives a bit cleaner waveform and less loading of the output.  Set the LC lowpass knee for just above the desired 50/60 Hz output.

Adjusting amplitude and pulse width while watching harmonics will allow elimination of all harmonics lower than the fifth harmonic, reducing lowpass requirements.

PW

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.25, 20:52:12


Something like this:


2.8cm diameter / 15cm long former with 120 turns of 1mm thick wire bifilar wound CW.
Both ends have a thicker wire 6 turn coil wound CCW.
left side has a 2cm diameter / 4cm long ferrite rod inside.


Itsu

O0
Обмотки съема тока и накачки противополжны бифилярной обмотке?
Are the current pickup and pump windings opposite to the bifilar winding?

Now all that remains is to select the capacitance in the inductor. You will move the ferrite according to maximum brightness and minimum consumption.

The video shows how without and with 50Hz there should be an oscillogram on the lamp.

https://dzen.ru/video/watch/650573800b441c1b59a91b7b

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.25, 09:11:28
...
Concerning the drawing of the resonator, when i search Google for such an image (not your modified one in post #124, but the original one in your post #76) i find several sources as can be seen here: https://tinyurl.com/3pvrdsf8

They all seem to point the the "Kapagen Generator", so some research in that direction might be worthwhile.
...
Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu, DELAMORTO and Verpies,

Regarding this drawing Itsu also linked to http://freetesla.blogspot.com/2011/08/kapagen-generator.html (http://freetesla.blogspot.com/2011/08/kapagen-generator.html) and DELAMORTO also attached to posts # 76 and # 124, was drawn by Lamare http://www.tuks.nl (http://www.tuks.nl) back in 2010.

I just asked him on the meaning of the VHS and CHS abbreviations he used in the drawing next to the coil and he answered this:
     VHS was short for Voltage Hot Spot and CHS for Current Hot Spot.  
He does not know much on the Kapanadze setup, the drawing was his approach back then and have not studied it deeply since then and cannot comment more useful pieces of information on it.

Gyula

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.25, 20:52:12


Something like this:


2.8cm diameter / 15cm long former with 120 turns of 1mm thick wire bifilar wound CW.
Both ends have a thicker wire 6 turn coil wound CCW.
left side has a 2cm diameter / 4cm long ferrite rod inside.


Itsu

Hi there re the bifilar winding are the 2 end wingdings wound on it at the ends of the winding or before and after the winding?
Also are any of the winding's wound CW or CCW ?  :)
Sil

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.09.25, 20:59:47
Itsu,

That is indeed the simplest version of a modified sine wave.  Instead of just a cap across the output, add an inductor (choke) in series between output and cap for a second order low pass.  This gives a bit cleaner waveform and less loading of the output.  Set the LC lowpass knee for just above the desired 50/60 Hz output.

Adjusting amplitude and pulse width while watching harmonics will allow elimination of all harmonics lower than the fifth harmonic, reducing lowpass requirements.

PW

PM,

thanks,  i will experiment with an extra choke, adjusting amplitude and pulse width should be done in the PIC code.

Itsu

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 21:02:31
O0
Обмотки съема тока и накачки противополжны бифилярной обмотке?
Are the current pickup and pump windings opposite to the bifilar winding?

Opposite as in CW and CCW?    Then yes, as mentioned in my post, the bifilar winding is CW, while the both end coils (wound over the bifilar coil ends) are CCW.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.25, 21:04:29
Now all that remains is to select the capacitance in the inductor. You will move the ferrite according to maximum brightness and minimum consumption.

OK, so it should resonate at around 140kHz like shown in your video scope screenshots?

Quote from: gyula on 2023.09.25, 21:17:59
Hi Itsu, DELAMORTO and Verpies,

Regarding this drawing Itsu also linked to http://freetesla.blogspot.com/2011/08/kapagen-generator.html (http://freetesla.blogspot.com/2011/08/kapagen-generator.html) and DELAMORTO also attached to posts # 76 and # 124, was drawn by Lamare http://www.tuks.nl (http://www.tuks.nl) back in 2010.

I just asked him on the meaning of the VHS and CHS abbreviations he used in the drawing next to the coil and he answered this:
     VHS was short for Voltage Hot Spot and CHS for Current Hot Spot.  
He does not know much on the Kapanadze setup, the drawing was his approach back then and have not studied it deeply since then and cannot comment more useful pieces of information on it.

Gyula

Thanks Gyula,

VHS was short for Voltage Hot Spot and CHS for Current Hot Spot.  Good to know.

Itsu

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.26, 08:26:33
Thanks Gyula,

VHS was short for Voltage Hot Spot and CHS for Current Hot Spot.  Good to know.

Itsu

Addition on the meaning of LC, HC and HV (also used in the drawing):

HV, LC = High Voltage, Low Current                   HV, HC = High Voltage, High Current   

Gyula

I measured the ferrite coil to be 4uH, so when aiming for 140kHz for Fres, the parallel cap should be 323nF.

What about the other 2 caps in the red circles? What value are they?

Itsu

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.26, 11:13:14
I measured the ferrite coil to be 4uH, so when aiming for 140kHz for Fres, the parallel cap should be 323nF.

What about the other 2 caps in the red circles? What value are they?

Itsu

These are filters. They are often installed on low frequency transformers. To prevent impulse noise from penetrating the wire insulation.

OK,  so decoupling capacitors.

Looking at that picture i notice that your ferrite rod is going through the whole of the bifilar coil.

Is that needed as i now have only a 4cm piece of ferrite inside the left pickup coil only?

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.26, 15:42:31
OK,  so decoupling capacitors.

Looking at that picture i notice that your ferrite rod is going through the whole of the bifilar coil.

Is that needed as i now have only a 4cm piece of ferrite inside the left pickup coil only?

No, your ferrite is enough. I just didn't want to cut mine.

  Itsu:
  Geo and I found that bigger ferrite pieces fixed onto like a popcycle stick with spacings between each one works better than a solid rod or bar. If that may add any thing more to your build.

   NickZ

I think that hanging a resonator on one wire is not entirely correct. The waves are positive and negative from the inverter, and we always add positive current from the HF generator. It would be more correct to make another resonator on the second side. And install another phase detector key so that the resonator for each half works in its own phase. This is all theory, I'll draw a diagram later. I conduct experiments, create and try)))

I'll try it this way.
Just for fun)))

Something reminds me of this....

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.24, 20:48:16
Hi Delamorto,

i notice your post #1 video link is dead, but it can be found here: https://dzen.ru/delamorto

I made a compilation of the data given so far in this diagram, is it accurate?:


The FG (what frequency are we running?) can be found here: https://aliexpress.ru/item/32839042221.html?sku_id=12000022945348976
The inverter (non modified sine (modified sine better)) can be found here (no transformer included):  https://aliexpress.ru/item/4000438023280.html?sku_id=10000001805672738

What output voltage needs the transformer feeding the FG be?


Thanks, regard Itsu

After building a test coil, and winding it up on a SG and looking at the display on a scope with a 330nf cap,it's output is some what attenuated,
but looking at the photo the coil on the far right it doesn't look much like the 6T Itsu suggests it could be if a closer look is made, it looks more like
5 or 6 turns one way and then 5 or 6 turns the other way with a tie wrap holding the loop back at the center of the wind.
See enlarged photo.

Nearly there, some initial test runs did not show the transistor (2sc5200) switch somehow, perhaps the 5V FG square wave signal is not strong enough maybe a MOSFET is better here.

220V/12V feedback not installed yet (is it needed for test runs?).

Where did you scope that modulated signal shown in your video?

Does the ground need to be connected always (rather not to avoid scope grounding problems).

Itsu

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.28, 09:40:16
Nearly there, some initial test runs did not show the transistor (2sc5200) switch somehow, perhaps the 5V FG square wave signal is not strong enough maybe a MOSFET is better here.

220V/12V feedback not installed yet (is it needed for test runs?).

Where did you scope that modulated signal shown in your video?

Does the ground need to be connected always (rather not to avoid scope grounding problems).

Itsu

The signal was taken from the lamp.
I don't use grounding with a load of 15-40 watts.
It is better to assemble a complete circuit and torture the resonator, look at the consumption.
I'll tell you right away - you need to switch to 2 keys. There is nothing to brag about yet, alas...

OK, thanks, so with "2 keys" you mean your modified diagram at post #192?

Itsu

I seem know how must do to your device has make self running. :P :P :P

Quote from: Itsu on 2023.09.28, 11:40:14
OK, thanks, so with "2 keys" you mean your modified diagram at post #192?

Itsu

Itsu ignor this if you like but is all this circuit does is generates it's own 50 hz and swirches in 140 khz
on each active cycle so how is it OU explain that ! it's just a 50 x 140 khz mixer.

Also whereis Nicks thread ?

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.28, 12:30:28
Also whereis Nicks thread ?

Mr Grey.

Nick Z removed the entire topic in the wee small hours of this morning.

Cheers Graham.

Quote from: Grumage on 2023.09.28, 13:12:40
Mr Grey.

Nick Z removed the entire topic in the wee small hours of this morning.

Cheers Graham.

Well it's comming up to the full moon on the 30th :D :D (aparantly a full moon is the end of some thing)  >:-)

Seriously carn't we just recover it (the tread) off the data base and copy it to a new account ? just an idea?

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.28, 13:19:34
Well it's comming up to the full moon on the 30th :D :D (aparantly a full moon is the end of some thing)  >:-)

Seriously carn't we just recover it (the tread) off the data base and copy it to a new account ? just an idea?

At the end of the day it is Nick's bench and the whole thread is safe within the forums archive. I could reverse the situation with a simple box tick however I would only do that if asked for by Nick personally.

Cheers Graham.

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.28, 12:30:28
Itsu ignor this if you like but is all this circuit does is generates it's own 50 hz and swirches in 140 khz
on each active cycle so how is it OU explain that ! it's just a 50 x 140 khz mixer.

Also whereis Nicks thread ?

:-\  I'm afraid so....

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.28, 14:07:06
:-\  I'm afraid so....

So how does it function as in your video and can you show the small coil winding how its wound

Regards Sil

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.28, 14:07:06
:-\  I'm afraid so....

I tried several setups using a transistor or a MOSFET (switch), but it seems that i can not create the modulated signal when measuring across the bulb.

QuoteI'm afraid so....

Ok, so it seems that it is a waste of time to continue.

Itsu

Mr Itsu in the original circuit Mr Delomato shows a logic circuit generating a square wave and its feeding the bas of HV switching
transistor its not shown in his latest circuits but hinted with a 'G'. thats why it doesnt work.

The other thing to drive the switching circuit will need some sort of driver from the oscillator low power circuit to function

The "G" stands for Generator (Function Generator) IMO, but it could be that the output of my used FG (5V) is too low / weak.

I can try to insert a MOSFET driver in between the FG and Transistor / MOSFET to boost that signal.

Itsu

See pic

Hello everyone.

Just a thought on DELAMORTO's idea.   
Reflections from the end of the cable. This fact prompted a series of experiments at the time.
You can see it here. The history of the description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HNJXYWevYQ&t=0s

Almost the same as the DELAMORTO resonator part. (greenbox)
Instead of a garnet type coil, it uses ferrite cores or AMCC cores.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_7MFYo7io
I only spent a few moments with it. When properly adjusted, the current drawn from the power supply is reduced. At the same time the filled D.C. voltage increases. The load is a 300ohm resistor.
For familiarization purposes it may be worth spending more time with this resonator.

Atti.
( if irrelevant to the post then please disregard )

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.09.30, 12:19:01
See pic

That pic circuit is not the one we are discussing here and not the one i am replicating.


I inserted a MOSFET driver in between the FG and MOSFET switch, and although i now have a resonating sine wave across the MOSFET drain / source, the output across the bulb is still a solid 50HZ square wave as presented by the inverter.

Somehow this resonator is not able to modulate the 50Hz inverter signal with the FG driven switch signal.

Itsu

Thanks for info on my coil the resonator coil if i put my scope on one of the bifilar windings and a 330nf on the 6turn coil with a ferrite core down the center
I get a peek at about 5mhz tunable by altering the ferrite position not 140 khz. (when driven by a square wave. If that's any help.
I think I need to find where the ¼ wave position is. Later on.

My 6 turn coil (with ferrite inside) measures 4uH, so according to this calculator:  https://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm   with a 330nF cap parallel, it should resonate around 138kHz, so NOT 1140kHz or 5MHz.
Mine resonates at 142kHz

Itsu

Hi itsu solved that problem scope earth had gone O/C and adding one winding to the other (common problem with Rigol probes.
Now getting 141khz. But not happy with primary winding some thing is hidden in the way its wound.

There is a trick winding some coils looping back over previous winds like caduceus coil boosts output Wesley group used this in his original device.

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.10.01, 11:43:37
There is a trick winding some coils looping back over previous winds...

But from this document (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4515.0;attach=49161) we know that such optimized winding will self-oscillate at only one frequency, which can be verified with a scope or gated SA.

I conducted several experiments, all of them were ineffective. Then I remembered the old circuit, with a resonant circuit and a light bulb.... Perhaps all is not lost! You can add current according to this scheme, only applying 220 volts 50 hertz to the light bulb.
Written in Russian, can anyone translate the picture....
I remember conducting experiments, and there was indeed a current. I took the ferrite from the filter.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.10.02, 21:06:40
Written in Russian, can anyone translate the picture....

OK but Nick will still write that I do not help anyone

   Well, still waiting for your help... I was counting on it.

   NickZ
   

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.03, 22:12:41
Well, still waiting for your help... I was counting on it.

Wasn't the translation helpful in understanding Delamorto's post ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.03, 22:44:05
Wasn't the translation helpful in understanding Delamorto's post ?
  Quote from Verpies.


   Verpies,
   What is helpful is showing how well the idea, works.
   You asked an important question, for once.
If, he thinks that most or all selfrunners are fakes, are all Kapanadze's devices also all fakes?  Remember?
  I don't recall there being an answer. Maybe, I missed it. He seamed to change the subject to needing help winding a simple "resonator" coil.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.04, 01:07:00
...are all Kapanadze's devices also all fakes?  Remember?
I don't recall there being an answer. Maybe, I missed it.

You didn't miss it. There wasn't one.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.20, 12:29:51
I suggest collecting everything in hardware first, and developing theories later! ^-^
The circuit is very simple, the inverter module can be bought on Aliexpress.
https://aliexpress.ru/item/4000438023280.html?sku_id=10000001805672738

I still have a problem finding a 30-40 watt transformer for the inverter. Mine rewound 2 times, I don't get into the stable 220 volt output...apparently it's not my thing to wind transformers.

what frequency are you thinking of using 50 hz is very wastfull.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.03, 22:12:41
   Well, still waiting for your help... I was counting on it.

   NickZ

what sort of help are you after or are you thinking of bending physycs to acomodate your needs
as its not a question of respect of others it's respect of reality and fitting in with what works in this reality.

Regards Sil

  Help? Yes, what sort of help? Well I know that Verpies can be a real help in getting conventional circuits working as they should. And both Kacher and the push pull are very conventional simple circuits. Which he can help us with. When it suits him. I can build these circuits, but can not design a self running device, as yet. That is something else...which we are all just learning about.

   NickZ

I want to try adding an oscillating circuit after the resonator and adjusting it to the frequency of the RF generator. In theory, it should raise the current in the line in resonance. But you need to correctly calculate its inductance, which should be 4-10 times lower than that of the transformer that powers it. It is possible to make the output from the circuit to the load through a capacitor so that resonance does not pressure.

Dear sir
Mr Delamorto in your circuit Itsu lists the 3rd or is it the 4th winding as 6 turns but would this be better as a 1/4 wave winding or not and then add your RF inductor on top ?

Sil

Perhaps I will remove the resonator altogether, leaving only an oscillatory circuit with internal excitation. It's all intuitive... tests

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.10.06, 06:47:44
Perhaps I will remove the resonator altogether, leaving only an oscillatory circuit with internal excitation. It's all intuitive... tests

Yes an interesting post but a complicated wind any idea on recomended wind details ?

There is a scientist in Russia, Atsyukovsky, he has ideas for generators similar to Kapanadze, he even has a patent.
But what is interesting is not his method of generating energy, but the use of spark gaps ( 8 and 5 ). One pumps the inductor, the second limits the swing of the circuit. But since the first one can be replaced with a transistor, then according to the general plan, the arrester is a limitation of the circuit buildup. Here is some food for thought.

By the way, the patent is very working. With condition - inductor - Tesla flat bifilar.  I have already shown a video where the LC is located on a flat reel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7po1lFs4zBw

Here is another simple experiment with a circuit as a resonator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7irtTC6_E

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.10.09, 21:42:22
There is a scientist in Russia, Atsyukovsky, he has ideas for generators similar to Kapanadze, he even has a patent.

What is the mutual orientation of his coils ?
Are they air coils or cored coils ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.09, 23:51:06
What is the mutual orientation of his coils ?
Are they air coils or cored coils ?

Why am I writing all this? I think Kapanadze's resonator is a LC circuit.
And Atsyukovsky's patent can be read here https://patenton.ru/patent/RU2261521C2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvjEaoWyJ_s

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.10.10, 07:51:15
Why am I writing all this?

To teach us something ...hopefully.

You wrote a question mark and you received a direct reply from me.
You, however, answered my question with a question not related to clarifying the question.

Also, the schematic in the patent does not elucidate the mutual orientation of the coils nor whether they are air-coils.
The video does not either.

If your interested i found all this arcived stuff

Be aware many people have fabricated this device that doesn't
make that it necessarily works !

The circuit of the original flashlight is different. You have options for it, I don't think they're working)))


It is necessary to force the protection of the microcircuit to work using the key VT3. This is the principle of working on it.
This is an original principle - no one repeated it....except me)))
Now I can write openly, not like before)))
In defense, care is not constant, but with a low, periodic frequency. This was enough for him to work on his own.
The Akula didn't know this, so he molded what I told him.... in the end it all descended into a banal fake

This is that very circuit I can't get it to work I made it some years ago now
when it showed the PCB layout the way the pot core is wound could be the problem ant VT3 transistor shorts out the supply when its switched.

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.10.10, 10:53:49
This is that very circuit I can't get it to work I made it some years ago now
when it showed the PCB layout the way the pot core is wound could be the problem ant VT3 transistor shorts out the supply when its switched.

It is very difficult to configure the protection to trigger in mc34063. The circuit has a circuit that starts the generator as soon as the voltage exceeds a specified threshold. I already said, don't worry about it, it's very difficult to set up. It is much easier to do separate key management. That's what I would like)))

@Delamorto - my opinion is that you're on the right track considering a resonant LC circuit.

A series-parallel resonant LC tank circuit is where I'm heading at the moment.

Here's a rough circuit of what I want to implement:

(https://i.ibb.co/xCbL65g/Resonant-amplifier.png) (https://ibb.co/Fx13z7Y)

Falstad circuit link: https://tinyurl.com/ypavyl8r

It doesn't have any form of positive feedback in it yet, and operates entirely on resonance.

In my circuit the first series capacitor is of low capacitance (10% of total capacitance), and the parallel capacitor is higher capacitance (90% of total capacitance). This seems to amplify both voltage and current. If the inductance is larger than capacitance then this results in more amperage, whereas if capacitance is greater than inductance then this results in more voltage. This appears to be the inverse of the normal mode of operation, where capacitors 'convert' voltage to current and inductors 'convert' current to voltage.

@lfarrand
the output should be where coil is (#8 )? How will you construct the transformer? If you put normal isolation transformer to this place, will it work?
I am asking, because I have problem with other circuit where on oscilloscope it looks nice with normal coil  (like your chart #1 in simulation) but if coil is replaced by transformer, it doesn't work. Do you have any suggestions?

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.10.09, 21:42:22
There is a scientist in Russia, Atsyukovsky,

He was. He is pass away. :-[

Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.10, 14:13:56
A series-parallel resonant LC tank circuit is where I'm heading at the moment.

Here's a rough circuit of what I want to implement:
(https://i.ibb.co/xCbL65g/Resonant-amplifier.png)

How is that different from the resonant rise of voltage in an LC tank ?

Quote from: andyw33 on 2023.10.10, 17:09:00
@lfarrand
the output should be where coil is (#8 )? How will you construct the transformer? If you put normal isolation transformer to this place, will it work?
I am asking, because I have problem with other circuit where on oscilloscope it looks nice with normal coil  (like your chart #1 in simulation) but if coil is replaced by transformer, it doesn't work. Do you have any suggestions?

The coil that I'm planning to use for #8 looks like this:

(https://i.ibb.co/rMq7fKQ/IMG-6484.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xGwC8K2)

It's just a single turn of 10mm copper pipe that I've plated with tin.

It will have a number of output coils, wound on Sendust 60u cores, like so:

(https://i.ibb.co/8mzXfJ0/IMG-6485.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tHZ3vS4)

The Sendust cores should work alright up to 1MHz.

(https://i.ibb.co/mhYcMXh/Sendust-60u-core.png) (https://ibb.co/CVXHTMV)

(https://i.ibb.co/zQ4Yp9T/Sendust-60u-core-2.png) (https://ibb.co/Kbrkd4p)

The wires on the output cores are cut to the same length as the single turn primary. I expect some tuning will be required due to the inter-turn capacitance on the output cores.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.10, 18:03:35
How is that different from the resonant rise of voltage in an LC tank ?

In a series resonant circuit, the input source voltage remains constant current passes through the input source and the voltage on the cap rises cycle by cycle. The current rises according to Ohm's law, but the input source has to furnish the additional current.

In a parallel resonant circuit, the input current remains constant (to a degree, excluding transients when charging caps initially). A localised circulating current bounces between the cap and coil in the LC tank, but the voltage in the tank remains the same as the input source.

Please correct me if I'm wrong in any of my understanding.

The circuit I posted is different because the voltage and current in the tank rise cycle by cycle, but the input voltage and current remain relatively constant.

Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.10, 19:21:32
In a series resonant circuit, the input source voltage remains constant current passes through the input source and the voltage on the cap rises cycle by cycle. The current rises according to Ohm's law, but the input source has to furnish the additional current.

In a parallel resonant circuit, the input current remains constant (to a degree, excluding transients when charging caps initially). A localised circulating current bounces between the cap and coil in the LC tank, but the voltage in the tank remains the same as the input source.

Please correct me if I'm wrong in any of my understanding.

The circuit I posted is different because the voltage and current in the tank rise cycle by cycle, but the input voltage and current remain relatively constant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7po1lFs4zBw

The parallel resonant circuit in this video simply stands on a coil, it is swayed by a magnetic field, like Atsyukovsky's in the patent, by transistors. The supply voltage of the transistors is 40 volts, but 20 volts are supplied to the shoulder. The circuit swings both in amplitude and current, the oscilloscope shows this. Growth occurs in resonance.
The scheme from the patent https://patenton.ru/patent/RU2261521C2 is working!

The resonator, also known as an oscillatory circuit, increases the magnetic field at resonance. The boost circuit cannot consume more than what the capacitors on the shoulder provide. I also had to hang the coil in the path of the magnetic field, and not connect the light bulb through grounding)))

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.10.10, 19:43:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7po1lFs4zBw

The parallel resonant circuit in this video simply stands on a coil, it is swayed by a magnetic field, like Atsyukovsky's in the patent, by transistors. The supply voltage of the transistors is 40 volts, but 20 volts are supplied to the shoulder. The circuit swings both in amplitude and current, the oscilloscope shows this. Growth occurs in resonance.
The scheme from the patent https://patenton.ru/patent/RU2261521C2 is working!

Ah, so the resonant tank circuit is 'wireless', just tuned to the same frequency presumably? This reminds me of what Don Smith said in one of his videos, where he says that it's possible using an educational kit ("Resonant Circuits" No 10 - 416 from The Science Source) to light an incandescent bulb using the wireless secondary coil without drawing anything from the source.

It would be nice to see if / how the luminosity changed when the transformer was moved further away.

I also found this thread titled 'Unlimited Free Energy, Overunity With Solid State LC Resonant Circuit' (https://www.mooker.com/thread-8-post-163.html#pid163) on Mooker quite interesting.

Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.10, 19:53:00
Ah, so the resonant tank circuit is 'wireless', just tuned to the same frequency presumably? This reminds me of what Don Smith said in one of his videos, where he says that it's possible using an educational kit ("Resonant Circuits" No 10 - 416 from The Science Source) to light an incandescent bulb using the wireless secondary coil without drawing anything from the source.

It would be nice to see if / how the luminosity changed when the transformer was moved further away.

I also found this thread titled 'Unlimited Free Energy, Overunity With Solid State LC Resonant Circuit' (https://www.mooker.com/thread-8-post-163.html#pid163) on Mooker quite interesting.

The advantage of such a swing of the circuit is that the efficiency of the magnetic field increases in resonance, and consumption in the swing drops! And if you also take electrical energy from the RX circuit to pump up the TX (As in the patent, through a diode)....then perhaps the efficiency will be >1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7irtTC6_E

I looked up the Don Smith quote about the resonance kit.

(https://i.ibb.co/Cmg49Mn/IMG-6486.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fm2cY0B)

from

(https://i.ibb.co/fvZn7h5/IMG-6487.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cLRCdGH)

It's a pricey book, but well worth it to have everything in one place for reference. I find it's easier to absorb what Don said by reading the video transcripts rather than hearing Don say it on video.

 Yes, yes, magnetic resonance! Swinging the circuit through a magnetic field, rather than by applying current pulses directly into the circuit.
Kapanadze says so in the video of the aquarium. It influences an independent coil -  electromagnetic field.

Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.10, 19:21:32
In a parallel resonant circuit, the input current remains constant

This is confusing because "input current" is not constant in time with AC.  Do you mean ?: ...input source current amplitude is constant in time...

Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.10, 19:21:32
In a series resonant circuit, the input source voltage remains constant

This is confusing because "input source voltage" is not constant in time.  Do you mean ?: ...input source voltage amplitude is constant in time...

@lfarrand
Thanks for coil description.
Here is my circuit, maybe usefull for someone (only in circuit simulator, not yet implemented)

(https://i.ibb.co/gZ5NCP4/output-special-transformer-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xqpWQfF)

Falstad link https://tinyurl.com/ynx5rfsp


P.S. Delamorto, I'm sorry for offtopic of Kapanadze, it is different circuit than his

Quote from: andyw33 on 2023.10.10, 21:33:32
@lfarrand
Thanks for coil description.
Here is my circuit, maybe usefull for someone (only in circuit simulator, not yet implemented)

(https://i.ibb.co/gZ5NCP4/output-special-transformer-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xqpWQfF)

Falstad link https://tinyurl.com/ynx5rfsp


P.S. Delamorto, I'm sorry for offtopic of Kapanadze, it is different circuit than his

Well, this is just the circuit of Atsyukovsky's inductor at high voltage. Not the main circuit, but an inductor that will create magnetic oscillations. Like Tesla!

This one is an independent coil. In fact, if you enlarge the picture from the video, you will see that the bottom of this coil is a flat coil (spiral) and then a regular multi-turn coil.

The coils in Atsyukovsky's patent are  aircore?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.10, 20:52:34
This is confusing because "input current" is not constant in time with AC.  Do you mean ?: ...input source current amplitude is constant in time...
This is confusing because "input source voltage" is not constant in time.  Do you mean ?: ...input source voltage amplitude is constant in time...

Apologies for the confusion. Yes, your corrections make more sense and that's what I meant.

One thing I'd be wary of when using the Falstad simulator (and possibly others) is that the timestep setting can have a dramatic effect.

The default timestep is 5us, and often you will see magnificent results at that setting, but if you reduce it to 100ns or lower then the effects are gone. I prefer to use a timestep of 1ns to mitigate this to a certain extent. Lowering the timestep makes it harder to determine what is happening in human perceptible time intervals (seconds) because it takes a lot longer to run the simulation, but you do gain much more resolution for shorter time periods.

Reality doesn't have a resolution limitation, aside from the Planck length as far as I know. Instruments & probes do, but nevertheless it's best to experiment if at all possible. Don't place too much faith in simulations.

Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.11, 05:50:05
One thing I'd be wary of when using the Falstad simulator (and possibly others) is that the timestep setting can have a dramatic effect.

The default timestep is 5us, and often you will see magnificent results at that setting, but if you reduce it to 100ns or lower then the effects are gone. I prefer to use a timestep of 1ns to mitigate this to a certain extent. Lowering the timestep makes it harder to determine what is happening in human perceptible time intervals (seconds) because it takes a lot longer to run the simulation, but you do gain much more resolution for shorter time periods.

Reality doesn't have a resolution limitation, aside from the Planck length as far as I know. Instruments & probes do, but nevertheless it's best to experiment if at all possible. Don't place too much faith in simulations.

Thank you for the info. I will try my circuits with suggested time adjustment.

Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.11, 04:53:16
Apologies for the confusion. Yes, your corrections make more sense and that's what I meant.

Ok, but that is not all.
There is an ambiguity about the type of the "input source".

Is it an AC voltage source or AC current source ?
...in one of the cases, which you describe, or in all of them ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.11, 07:54:37
Ok, but that is not all.
There is an ambiguity about the type of the "input source".

Is it an AC voltage source or AC current source ?
...in one of the cases, which you describe, or in all of them ?

I agree that it is best to limit ambiguity and ensure we're on the same page. I was thinking of an AC voltage source in both cases.

Series resonance circuit example: https://tinyurl.com/yt3oc33h
Parallel resonancecircuit example: https://tinyurl.com/ylkmnopk

I'd also like to express my thanks for your valuable input to the forum over the years. I know some members have taken your helpful advice the wrong way and saw it as an attack on their character, but I think you've got your heart in the right place.

Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.11, 08:22:53
I was thinking of an AC voltage source in both cases.

Here is some food for thought for you:
https://tinyurl.com/yuyuczgg

Notice that the bottom circuit accumulates AC energy and the amplitude of current sloshing in its LC tank increases with time ...and eventually exceeds the amplitude of current flowing through the alternating input voltage source.  The voltage amplitude exceeds it, too.

The moonshine still works in resonance too!  ;D Moreover, the resonator has an interesting appearance and calculations.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.10.10, 10:23:47
The circuit of the original flashlight is different. You have options for it, I don't think they're working)))


It is necessary to force the protection of the microcircuit to work using the key VT3. This is the principle of working on it.
This is an original principle - no one repeated it....except me)))
Now I can write openly, not like before)))
In defense, care is not constant, but with a low, periodic frequency. This was enough for him to work on his own.
The Akula didn't know this, so he molded what I told him.... in the end it all descended into a banal fake

Dug out this PCB found Led's blown as no current limit in line and VT3 shorts out Res Cap, not good and Leds flash
lights stop say off when battery's removed also in this circuit all coils in series in another two coils cancel out what's correct ?

Sil

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.10.14, 15:56:29
Dug out this PCB found Led's blown as no current limit in line and VT3 shorts out Res Cap, not good and Leds flash
lights stop say off when battery's removed also in this circuit all coils in series in another two coils cancel out what's correct ?

Sil

VT3 makes a drawdown to turn on the protection, the LEDs are powered through the capacitor.
Everything is according to the original scheme..
MC34063 operates at frequencies up to 100 kHz, it is not used as a standard. Why they chose her, I don't know.
It's better to do it without it right away, it's easier...much easier.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.10.10, 11:55:25
It is much easier to do separate key management. That's what I would like)))

How would you set up the different keys ?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.18, 10:43:03
How would you set up the different keys ?

Define what a key is or does. please

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.10.18, 17:18:00
Define what a key is or does. please

A switch, basically. A " Morse code key "

I too dabbled a little with this device but my problem was electronically matching the switches to suit the opposite polarities. I often wondered whether this could be achieved by using one of the Arduino type thingies driving opto or electromagnetic reed switches. Would the effect manifest at low switching frequencies?

Cheers Grum

As a post script, has anyone run the circuit through simulation software?

Quote from: Grumage on 2023.10.18, 17:43:21
A switch, basically. A " Morse code key "

I too dabbled a little with this device but my problem was electronically matching the switches to suit the opposite polarities. I often wondered whether this could be achieved by using one of the Arduino type thingies driving opto or electromagnetic reed switches. Would the effect manifest at low switching frequencies?

Cheers Grum

As a post script, has anyone run the circuit through simulation software?

If that's the case as I suspected, then I would think that device VT3 would be better placed on the neg side of the output diode, the other thing is
on the drawing i have all the windings shown  in series shouldn't two of them be inductive canceling mode. Ive not tried that mode yet.

Sil

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.10.18, 17:18:00
Define what a key is or does. please

It is a Russian way of saying a "switch", but it does not have to be a mechanical switch (like in English).  In Russian it can mean any kind of a switch, including a transistor.
He used the word "key" in his posts, so I just went along with his exotic vocabulary.

Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2023-01-23, 06:48:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU
But in the link left on the neighboring forum, the professor has something spinning.
And the phase seems to be one. And the coil is one.
I mean I am unaware of the Rodin coil been shown to have a spinning magnetic field.
https://youtu.be/vyfIMkZuYhE (https://youtu.be/vyfIMkZuYhE)

It was in vain that Kapanadze's main topic was closed; from the first days of his appearance, the topic of receiver-transmitter hung in the air. By the way, one officer from the special services then said about testing Kapanadze's generator that this is a reception-transmission principle.
You should have asked the journalist where the transmitter is located if your generator is a receiver! ;D

oops Sil

AlienGrey
Yes but on the other hand so to speak the Adrian Guska, device did the same thing yet he had a Tesla coil witch in it self is HV & HF and is a TX  device in it's self and an accelerator as well as pumping out magnetism, thus becoming a dipole until it is loaded up then it all disappears.  >:-)

Sil

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.12.12, 13:11:29
It was in vain that Kapanadze's main topic was closed; from the first days of his appearance, the topic of receiver-transmitter hung in the air. By the way, one officer from the special services then said about testing Kapanadze's generator that this is a reception-transmission principle.
You should have asked the journalist where the transmitter is located if your generator is a receiver! ;D

Привет! Давно тебя невидел  :D

For some reason my personal opinion partly also wants to lean towards N. Tesla longitudinal waves transmiter-receiver principle.
But on another hand towards NMR reaction going on ferromagnetic materials(from what I saw with radiation coming out of thin air with very same high frequency wave inside low frequency wave modulation on Tesla coil).
And the common thing you see everythere - the high frequency wave embedded into low frequency wave. While high frequency tank LC circuit is on separate coil for 90^ magnetic fields coupling with main low frequency coil and with mixed frequency on output coil.
Like someone said - there are many ways to Rome.... :)

P.S. A bit offtopic - How to make longitudinal waves detector? We all know about Marconi transverse waves detector (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_detector) but need something different on antenna part.

Kapanadze saw the effect by accident; he was assembling a completely different device. I don't think there's anything more complicated than a high-voltage multiplier. He also talked about the welding machine that worked when he was assembling something high-voltage..... and he saw that effect.

Quote from: T-1000 on 2023.12.12, 18:10:03
l opinion partly also wants to lean towards N. Tesla longitudinal waves transmiter-receiver principle.
But on another hand towards NMR reaction going on ferromagnetic materials(from what I saw with radiation coming out of thin air with very same high frequency wave inside low frequency wave modulation on Tesla coil).
And the common thing you see everythere - the high frequency wave embedded into low frequency wave. While high frequency tank LC circuit is on separate coil for 90^ magnetic fields coupling with main low frequency coil and with mixed frequency on output coil.

Take a look at the attached paper. It describes a phenomenon that is similar to NMR but it affects ferromagnetic domains instead of the magnetic moments of the individual nuclei ...and its FWHM resonance bandwidth is much wider than in NMR.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.12, 22:02:20
Take a look at the attached paper. It describes a phenomenon that is similar to NMR but it affects ferromagnetic domains instead of the magnetic moments of the individual nuclei ...and its FWHM resonance bandwidth is much wider than in NMR.

One thing to note - when you have 2 resonant coils on same core placed on 90 degrees angle there is very narrow range where those two coils interact in a way where the output of oscillating magnetic flux is amplified and not cancelled. And it is not researched well so what exacly happening on ferromagnetic core is also not well known to conventional science. Which effect is really happenning there.. only to guess until now. This is an area for experimentation and for making theories only after having working prototype in your hands.

It might be a bit deviation from original topic here but... If I would had been in Kapanadze device demo, I would bring radiation detector, oscillating electric field detector and longditudal waves detector with me. Depending on what those measurements would show it would be more clear on what was going on there.
Every time we have "OU" there is something going on beyond what conventional measurements would indicate.

And to add to the list - if you ask any scientist simple question: where energy is coming from to keep magnets magnetized while they do work in generators against opposing magnetic fields from generators windiings, they will be just scratching their heads over last century.

Quote from: T-1000 on 2023.12.13, 02:41:48
One thing to note - when you have 2 resonant coils on same core placed on 90 degrees angle there is very narrow range where those two coils interact in a way where the output of oscillating magnetic flux is amplified and not cancelled.

Narrow range of what?  e.g.: winding angles, phases, frequencies, amplitudes...?

T-1000

QuoteAnd to add to the list - if you ask any scientist simple question: where energy is coming from to keep magnets magnetized while they do work in generators against opposing magnetic fields from generators windiings, they will be just scratching their heads over last century.

It's an interesting concept and I was thinking about this today.

Suppose I had a few working FE devices and I wanted to introduce them to the world. The first objection might be "where did the energy come from?". I would then ask "what is energy" at which point most would have no idea how to respond. Understand 99% of the population cannot explain what energy is, where it is nor why it is. It is an enigma, an intellectual black hole and when I ask this simple question I see this look of fear and disbelief in most people. It's like asking if unicorns prefer pasta or rice and it's pretty obvious most have literally no comprehension of what it is were talking about.

Which begs the question, how could so many people be so completely ignorant to the concept of "energy" which literally dictates the action of everything in the universe?. I mean ignorant of one thing could be excusable but literally everything?. It must be a joke, some other explanation, it cannot be true in that sense could it?. Yet it is true and simply asking the question "what is energy" to the people around us proves they have literally no clue what it is nor how it works.

So this notion that everything is known is obviously complete bs and the question of what we know is debatable.

I love it, I can walk into any room, ask the question "what is energy" and everyone turns into god damn cowards heading for the doors. It's almost miraculous how consistent the effect is.

AC

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.13, 03:11:04
Narrow range of what?  e.g.: winding angles, phases, frequencies, amplitudes...?

The frequency, phase and duty cycle. The two 90 degrees cols interact over same core to rotate magnetic domains inside 3D XYZ plane and control resulting magnetic flux of the core. For example, in STAAR device experiment it was copper foil and normal magnet wire over 90 degrees.

   Ok, well it looks like the energy from crystals thread is on hold. Too much information and opinions without proof, and no working device. Perhaps the best thing was to close that thread. As it looks like no OU, nor self running devices are going to be shown. The proof is in the pudding. In this case, just a wall of text, is all there is, from the wizard and his pal.

  We have also lost the research and tests on the Akula, Ruslan type of devices, as no one is doing any further tests on actual devices. Until that is reanimated, we are lost in space.
So, let's work on getting something that actually works going...
And leave "silly" unproven speculations behind.
   Many of us are familiar with Tesla and his ideas, especially concerning free energy. As that is the point of this and other threads. But, some will read his ideas and not believe him, or think that that is all outdated now. But they are wrong about that. Conventional closed circuit mentality and greed, is to blame, instead.
   NickZ

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.12.13, 07:05:47
T-1000
It's an interesting concept and I was thinking about this today.

Suppose I had a few working FE devices and I wanted to introduce them to the world. The first objection might be "where did the energy come from?". I would then ask "what is energy" at which point most would have no idea how to respond. Understand 99% of the population cannot explain what energy is, where it is nor why it is. It is an enigma, an intellectual black hole and when I ask this simple question I see this look of fear and disbelief in most people. It's like asking if unicorns prefer pasta or rice and it's pretty obvious most have literally no comprehension of what it is were talking about.

Which begs the question, how could so many people be so completely ignorant to the concept of "energy" which literally dictates the action of everything in the universe?. I mean ignorant of one thing could be excusable but literally everything?. It must be a joke, some other explanation, it cannot be true in that sense could it?. Yet it is true and simply asking the question "what is energy" to the people around us proves they have literally no clue what it is nor how it works.

So this notion that everything is known is obviously complete bs and the question of what we know is debatable.

I love it, I can walk into any room, ask the question "what is energy" and everyone turns into god damn cowards heading for the doors. It's almost miraculous how consistent the effect is.

AC

Why do you keep beating your self up over energy it doesn't come from any where! it's every where, every thing is energy
even dark mater is energy all your doing is moving it around.  There was a Turkish university professor some while back showed a 30 watt device using a collection of FE devices all joined up  I haven't come across it lately knowing YouTube it will have been wasted. Taken down. some one should make an alternative system with less adverts and advert time, that allows folk to down load stuff, wouldn't that be great other wise the internet like every thing else will die off. if it's not already started.

Sil

   AG:
   Good point,   it doesn't come from anywhere, it is everywhere...
   We're just too dumb to know it. Or are we???

   NickZ

Had you seen it ?
https://yadi.sk/d/FYjJtIWi3NiUzD (https://yadi.sk/d/FYjJtIWi3NiUzD)

Some food for thought.

We have high frequency and low frequency as coil inputs. While going through old documents I remembered about old tape players and how sound recording was made - https://www.aes.org/aeshc/docs/3mtape/soundtalk/soundtalkv1n2.pdf In old tape players recording the high frequency was used for magnetization and low frequency for guiding magnetization polarity.
Now the task would be - how we can magnetize transformer core with much less current than plain input from single coil? The most likely answer would be, polarize magnetic domains with high frequency to the edges of BH curve and the low main frequency would flip magnetic domains polarity without much effort.
When looking back on Kapanadze style devices the high frequency would come from top load capacitor plate "antenna" with square nanosecond pulses and low frequency from the main inductor. Which also serve as another capacitor plate for the high frequency circuit. And high frequency activated on magnetic domains spin moments from one polarity to another.
With that that approach the bifilar cw/ccw output would be one of ways to have induction for output load without influencing inductor.

If anyone here still have Kapanadze generator setup in works, hopefully this theory could be checked on the bench. I would love to see results.

Cheers!

SR193 had the idea to relax domains.
Unfortunately, it was never possible to implement it, including him... :-\

And I made the oscillogram described in your link on the first posts of this topic.... https://dzen.ru/video/watch/650573800b441c1b59a91b7b

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.12.21, 22:10:13
And I made the oscillogram described in your link on the first posts of this topic.... https://dzen.ru/video/watch/650573800b441c1b59a91b7b

Thanks,

And if you do similar modulation like in old tape recorder , what result you would get on output and power consumption?

What is an interesting wire such ?   :o Wesley could have find the  novozenland's original in english.

Quote from: T-1000 on 2023.12.22, 05:10:28
Thanks,

And if you do similar modulation like in old tape recorder , what result you would get on output and power consumption?

The funny thing is, I didn't remove it from a coil with a ferrite core. She was just passing - like a throttle.
Wondering what I might have missed.....

Quote from: T-1000 on 2023.12.21, 19:50:29
We have high frequency and low frequency as coil inputs. While going through old documents I remembered about old tape players and how sound recording was made - https://www.aes.org/aeshc/docs/3mtape/soundtalk/soundtalkv1n2.pdf In old tape players recording the high frequency was used for magnetization and low frequency for guiding magnetization polarity.

So the high frequency loosens, or even spins the domains while the low frequency guides the end result.
It must be about more than just exceeding the coercivity region of the BH curve to create an energy anomaly and several years ago I would call it bullshit, but after seeing the yoke device work with similar signals and the screeching sound, I must write - interesting line of thinking.

  The low frequency on the Ruslan device from the push pull output is about 15.KHz. Is that considered low frequency?
   And the HV, HF from the kacher us around 1.5MHz. 
   I don't know what frequency TK had shown as low or high frequency. As he does not show a scope, and does not know how to use one, nor needed one, either.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.22, 18:38:18
  The low frequency on the Ruslan device from the push pull output is about 15.KHz. Is that considered low frequency?
   And the HV, HF from the kacher us around 1.5MHz. 
   I don't know what frequency TK had shown as low or high frequency. As he does not show a scope, and does not know how to use one, nor needed one, either.

   NickZ

15khz is 1/100th of 1.5mhz the problem is thats close to the audio sub sonic freq and dangerouse, and radiant doesn't realy start till 20khz
thats when energy floats on the wire surface any way 15khz and 2mhz are not in resonance  but 20kz would be any way to get any where you need to know the secrets on how to solve other things like getting FE how are you going to capture it with out distroying it, the dipole?.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.22, 18:38:18
   I don't know what frequency TK had shown as low or high frequency. As he does not show a scope, and does not know how to use one, nor needed one, either.

TK did use spark gap for hammer approach. And wires inside coil as capacitor plate.
It will vary depending on the coils. I would recommend to sweep square waves frequency range 5x-15x with <=30% duty cycle on your Tesla coil top load and see which frequency can do best pre-magnetization on 90 degrees from the coils. And see that familiar wave inside wave when mixing with low frequency (adjustable 15kHz in your case). As it is Tesla coil with blocking generator(katcher), adding grounded foil plate near Tesla coil and moving it around will influence that frequency.
Talking of which, there is someone you may know who also did play with that part - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpHk6wYljtI

Quote from: T-1000 on 2023.12.22, 19:22:30
I would recommend to sweep square waves frequency range 5x-15x with <=30% duty cycle ...

Do you know why you always make this duty cycle recommendation ?
I have seen you follow your own advice, too.

I notice you mention magnetic waves at 90 deg, so why is all your windings in a line ? is that why Nelson commented on the tesla coil transmitting  and wasting energy into space ? C.C

Sil

  Double post deleted.

   NickZ

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.12.22, 21:05:50
I notice you mention magnetic waves at 90 deg, so why is all your windings in a line ?

Two coaxial helical windings can generate a small annulus of magnetic flux, which is perpendicular to the axis, if these windings generate bucking magnetic fields in the gap between them.

P.S.
Are you sure T1000 wrote about magnetic waves?  Waves?

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.22, 22:41:35
Two coaxial helical windings can generate a small annulus of magnetic flux, which is perpendicular to the axis, if these windings generate bucking magnetic fields in the gap between them.

P.S.
Are you sure T1000 wrote about magnetic waves?  Waves?

One of possibilities.
And your mention about cоaxial windings reminded me about 2012 Edward Lee device - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR99TnupvOU https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/edward_lee/post235578744/  https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/edward_lee/post237839624/
In his implementation the nanosecond pulse generator was used on coiled coaxial cable which was shorted on the end - https://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/6/91/471/91471963_large_GNSI.JPG

And from his posts on Russian forum about finding effect and on https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/edward_lee/post235235326/

Quote from: Daly-Edward-Lee  on 2012.09.10, 01:56:00
Эффект был замечен случайно , когда настраивал Г.Н.С. в качестве оправки для намотки коаксиала использовал старую мини Теслу.
но на ней была намотана еще одна обмотка проводом 0,65 и я пытался на ней добиться хорошей искры, настраивал ГНС и как то подключил к ней емкость, и получил хороший удар током. Совсем не похожий на обжигающее прикосновение ВВ ВЧ. Тут дальше пошли эксперименты именно в этом направлении. Я не претендую, что моя конструкция является самой оптимальной, но самое важное я получил, и буду работать дальше оптимизируя и изучая данное явление и установку. Еще одна ВАЖНАЯ деталь- БЕЗ ХОРОШЕГО ЗАЗЕМЛЕНИЯ - НЕ РАБОТАЕТ

Quote from: Daly-Edward-Lee on 2012.09.10, 01:56:00
The effect was found randomly when I was tuning nanosecond pulse generator. For nanosecond pulses coaxial cable windings former I was using old mini-Tesla coil inside. But on that Tesla coil there was additional coil with 0,65mm diameter wire and I was trying to get best results with sparks on it. I was tuning nanosecond pulse generator and somehow connected capacitor to that coil. And it hit me with current discharge. Completely different from high frequency burning spark from the Tesla coil. And there started following experiments to that direction. I do not claim my device is most optimal but I did get most important effect and I will be optimizing it and will research the resulting effect in device. One more IMPORTANT detail - WITHOUT GOOD EARTH GROUNDING - DOES NOT WORK

I think it is good time to see if pulsing with nanosecond pulses or Tesla coil discharging to coaxial cable would influence coil with capacitor. And additional inductor winding from push-pull with ground connection in between. Just to verify if I can get same effect Dally found. Then take it from there.
And somehow I missed previously when Dally pointed to where he started.

Will start with 1mm diameter wire coil and capacitor inside of 0.34mm inductor coil then will wind coaxial cable on top when it will arrive. The mystery need to be solved.. :) And PCBs also need to be made (will use https://www.pcbtrain.co.uk/services/pcb-fabrication service since they are asking fair prices for low quantities)
IMAG1062.jpg (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u0PFtDthK9XWwmMZR3DmzuHAG7UCABbs/view?usp=drive_link)
IMAG1063.jpg (https://drive.google.com/file/d/13hFUGXrb4-Pm5QZWu9scVfNpnqgyNUX9/view?usp=drive_link)

Cheers!

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.22, 22:41:35
Two coaxial helical windings can generate a small annulus of magnetic flux, which is perpendicular to the axis, if these windings generate bucking magnetic fields in the gap between them.

P.S.
Are you sure T1000 wrote about magnetic waves?  Waves?

Well what would you think if i said my back garden
was saturated in the wet with slugs,  Same sort of difference (snails) hmm!
;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Ok, do you remember me asking you what electricity was ?
your the the scientist ! and could it be your looking too hard perhaps?
Try this one what is water ?
Still looking to hard. Well they are both two elements.

The two magnetic winding's your talking about is called a blotch wall, John B
Sil

T-1000

Recreating lighthing bolt = electrostatic charging by induction You were damn close with Lithuania experiment. Very few elements are needed, just Avramenko plug , special Tesla coil, coaxial capacitor and low frrequency discharge device to load.

Quote from: forest on 2023.12.24, 21:05:05
T-1000

Recreating lighthing bolt = electrostatic charging by induction You were damn close with Lithuania experiment.

If you look at Tesla wireless receiving and transmitting power system from electrostatic pump viewpoint where the Earth is medium for transfer of energy... I would tune it's LC capacitance between air and ground for maximum current coming and going over Earth ground. While keeping maximum charge voltage on air side.

I have a hunch, if you add this on the right moments on top of main lower frequency transformer to compensate coil induction reactive resistance on ON and OFF moments that can be transformed to power consumption on load. In my case the LC circuit most likely will become Tesla coil tuned for maximum current transfer on ground side while maintaining main oscillation as secondary receiving Tesla coil. And primary as transmiting secondary with added current from isolation transformer.

In Lithuania first experiment the high voltage side was trying to achieve electrotatic pump function. And on Yoke experiment the function was to achieve NMR for maximum magnetic field oscillations strength.

Cheers!

Here is an interesting magnetic effect but i's not quite happening the way Don Smith
suggests it did for him never the less the gap between tx and rx coil is there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y6qKISIE0Og

Sil

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.12.25, 02:32:20
Here is an interesting magnetic effect but i's not quite happening the way Don Smith
suggests it did for him never the less the gap between tx and rx coil is there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y6qKISIE0Og

Sil

Any receiving coil can not only receive, but also transmit energy. Yes, your video just describes Kapanadze's patent, when the oscillations coincide with TX and RX, general generation begins.I did the experiment a little differently, but the essence is the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7irtTC6_E

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.12.25, 10:51:38
Any receiving coil can not only receive, but also transmit energy. Yes, your video just describes Kapanadze's patent, when the oscillations coincide with TX and RX, general generation
begins. I did the experiment a little differently, but the essence is the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7irtTC6_E

P=UxI .Ohms law. where P is in W; U is in V; I is in A;
Your video  presented   phenomena  in Near Field looking at  one variable only and there are two of them the Voltage and the Current.
You measured current only and if you had measured Voltage you would notice that  when current went down the voltage grows up.
That proves that there was no additional gain at all.
So     
The additional resonance coil pretuned with fixed  capacitor  tunes both  circuits better  in the Near Field   to the impedance of the load* (-LED) but  all of it could be done in the same  single  coil too
by adding to it variable capacitor called trimer.
Additional information:
During placing additional coil on the top you saw  LED  going brighter and brighter  presenting  inverse square law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field manifesting  evident inverse square law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
where impedance of the load( the LED) was never matched but taken as an indicator satisfying the experimenter.
Wesley

Because most people have no clue how to create energy pump in open circuit, we can start with the basics.
The Dielectric Induction producing Ground Currents (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbHDHiAQrrs) video is showcasing how you can create one.
The Frequency Splitting by Loose coupled Dual Resonant Coils (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qpOxiy1x6s) is showcasing the frequency relationship between 2 coils as capacitor plates.
So, you have input energy to create large displacement currents being compensated from the ground by dialectric induction. And that is external source of the energy input in open circuit in form of displacement current.
The next step is how to utilize that ground displacement current for energy transformation without affecting resonant circuit. And this is where "overunity" is coming from.

Cheers!

Quote from: T-1000 on 2023.12.21, 19:50:29
Some food for thought.

We have high frequency and low frequency as coil inputs. While going through old documents I remembered about old tape players and how sound recording was made - https://www.aes.org/aeshc/docs/3mtape/soundtalk/soundtalkv1n2.pdf In old tape players recording the high frequency was used for magnetization and low frequency for guiding magnetization polarity.
Now the task would be - how we can magnetize transformer core with much less current than plain input from single coil? The most likely answer would be, polarize magnetic domains with high frequency to the edges of BH curve and the low main frequency would flip magnetic domains polarity without much effort.
When looking back on Kapanadze style devices the high frequency would come from top load capacitor plate "antenna" with square nanosecond pulses and low frequency from the main inductor. Which also serve as another capacitor plate for the high frequency circuit. And high frequency activated on magnetic domains spin moments from one polarity to another.
With that that approach the bifilar cw/ccw output would be one of ways to have induction for output load without influencing inductor.

If anyone here still have Kapanadze generator setup in works, hopefully this theory could be checked on the bench. I would love to see results.

Cheers!

Could you explain in more detail the mechanism of how the coil is expected to act as one capacitor plate?

Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2024.01.01, 13:28:40
Could you explain in more detail the mechanism of how the coil is expected to act as one capacitor plate?

Are you serious with that question? If so I think you need to look up haw capacitors are made on you tube Ivo shows whats happening in his video what's going on but any large cap from the old days is usually layer wound if you pull an old  electrolytic cap apart but make sure it's discharged first and you will see it is a two layer coil with an insulator between the plates this makes it inductive as well due to its assembly.

I'm not trying to be negative here but how deep is your electronic knowledge
as RF and high Voltage is very dangerous especially when impulse (electro magnetic radiation).
Sil

Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2024.01.01, 13:28:40
Could you explain in more detail the mechanism of how the coil is expected to act as one capacitor plate?

To answer this question you need to look up how Film capacitors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_capacitor#Example_manufacturing_process) are made. In our case there are wires instead of foil and at least 2 windings in transformer with dialectric in between. The coils have increased inductance on ends in comparison to capacitors and you can connect additional components to it. And every transformer have interwinding capacitance (https://www.quora.com/What-is-interwinding-capacitance-in-a-transformer) often called as parasitic capacitance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_capacitance) in addition to inductance, wire resistance and core permeability.

bfulmind23

QuoteCould you explain in more detail the mechanism of how the coil is expected to act as one capacitor plate?

There are many opinions on this subject but the easy answer is any object which does not have a neutral charge qualifies as a "capacitor".
Capacitor; Capacitance is the capability of a material object or device to store electric charge. It is measured by the charge in response to a difference in electric potential.

In effect, the moment any object including a coil acquires a (-) or (+) charge different from any nearby object it acts like a charged capacitor plate. This is because "plates" have nothing to do with capacitance and any charged object no matter it's appearance has capacitance.

In a coil the "capacitance" can be.
1)The whole coil relative to something else, ie. a charged coil which is grounded.
2)The ends of the coil having opposite potentials, (-)IIIIIIIIII(+).
3)The difference in potential between each turn in a coil, ie. interwinding capacitance.
4)The (-) Electrons and (+) Protons in the atoms and molecules have capacitance, ie. an electric field between them.

It's best to ignore the bulk terms like plates, capacitors, wires, coils, transformers and go deeper looking at first principals. In effect, any charged object can store electrical energy in the space between any other object with a different charge. The electrical energy is measured in volts/cm or volts/metre and literally applies to every object in the known universe.

Think of it this way, understanding electronics tells us what a capacitor can do. However understanding physics and first principals tells us what a capacitor is, how it actually works and how it relates to everything else.

AC

Friends, happy new year!
I tried an experiment with two frequencies, high and low, the high one relaxes the domains, and the low frequency should rotate them, forming a sine pulse. I didn't bother much with generators, I just wanted to see such a formation - the general slope of the domains, and it exists! True, it's quite small, but the oscilloscope recorded it!
There is something in this, you just need to dig deep enough.

https://youtu.be/b-jnnPE0hzI


Below is an oscillogram with and without high frequency.

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2024.01.01, 18:14:28
In effect, any charged object can store electrical energy in the space between any other object with a different charge.

AC

How can I charge a certain closed volume of gas with the same charge ?
And would be this gas increase its pressure in that case?  ;)

Quote from: verpies link=topic=45 C.C10.msg107046#msg107046 date=1695069310
Any ferrite composition ?

no, C.C from an old transister radio areal.

I'm wondering why damped oscillations are used for demagnetization? Maybe it is necessary to apply damped oscillations rather than a high frequency to relax the domains in the ferrite?

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2024.01.01, 18:14:28
bfulmind23
There are many opinions on this subject but the easy answer is any object which does not have a neutral charge qualifies as a "capacitor".
Capacitor; Capacitance is the capability of a material object or device to store electric charge. It is measured by the charge in response to a difference in electric potential.

In effect, the moment any object including a coil acquires a (-) or (+) charge different from any nearby object it acts like a charged capacitor plate. This is because "plates" have nothing to do with capacitance and any charged object no matter it's appearance has capacitance.

In a coil the "capacitance" can be.
1)The whole coil relative to something else, ie. a charged coil which is grounded.
2)The ends of the coil having opposite potentials, (-)IIIIIIIIII(+).
3)The difference in potential between each turn in a coil, ie. interwinding capacitance.
4)The (-) Electrons and (+) Protons in the atoms and molecules have capacitance, ie. an electric field between them.

It's best to ignore the bulk terms like plates, capacitors, wires, coils, transformers and go deeper looking at first principals. In effect, any charged object can store electrical energy in the space between any other object with a different charge. The electrical energy is measured in volts/cm or volts/metre and literally applies to every object in the known universe.

Think of it this way, understanding electronics tells us what a capacitor can do. However understanding physics and first principals tells us what a capacitor is, how it actually works and how it relates to everything else.

AC

Great post AC.

Regards

Mike

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2024.01.06, 19:09:05
I'm wondering why damped oscillations are used for demagnetization? Maybe it is necessary to apply damped oscillations rather than a high frequency to relax the domains in the ferrite?

Hi,
This article showed the attached hysteresis curve which shows the reason rather well. It is a method by which residual flux can be left at zero when the excitation is removed.

https://cestriom.com/en/technology/demagnetization-basics/

bi

How to make a nuclear batery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiewZz0MXjs

   In my tests, I have never seen any current coming from the ground. Current does NOT come from the earth ground.
If you think that that is where the extra energy is coming from, please prove it. As current goes to ground, not the other way around.

   NickZ

So what do you think current is and what do you think voltage is and how or where or what is energy and where do you think Tesla got his warden cliff tower idea from and what do you think the original purpose of the pyramids at giza was?

Sil

  Yes, there may be a relation to Tesla and his tower, and the water running under both the pyramids as well as Tesla's tower project. AS he would not be able to provide for free energy, if he had to buy the power in the first place. So, it must have been a self running operation, to transmit free energy to every one world wide. Me thinks ..
  I heard something about Tesla was actually murdered, instead. All his 80 boxes of notes and projects were confiscated.  Not good...

   NickZ

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2024.01.21, 15:07:26
So what do you think current is and what do you think voltage is and how or where or what is energy and where do you think Tesla got his warden cliff tower idea from and what do you think the original purpose of the pyramids at giza was?

Sil

   AG: Lots of questions.  My understanding is that voltage and current are non material frequencies as part of the total frequencies provided for by our Earth Vortex, and the Aether. As non material sources of energy, what we call electricity. There are also non electromagnetic frequencies, as well.
  How the Aether can provide for this source of free energy,  and how to tap that energy, is what I am looking into.
And again Tesla is the master, of that game.

   NickZ

NickZ

QuoteIn my tests, I have never seen any current coming from the ground. Current does NOT come from the earth ground.
If you think that that is where the extra energy is coming from, please prove it. As current goes to ground, not the other way around.

Chatgpt

QuoteWhen a high-voltage coil is connected to ground, it typically provides a path for the flow of current to and from the ground. The ground connection in such systems serves multiple purposes: Safety grounding, reference potential, EMI/RFI Shielding.

It's well known that a current always flows between any two objects with a difference in potential and a path of conduction. The current flow alternates as the potential alternates.

On where the extra energy could be coming from?. Many FE inventors have claimed the extra energy may come from Earths magnetic field. For example, super-conduction is not a change/alternation of the magnetic polarity such as North or South poles. In effect, super-conduction expels all magnetic fields regardless of there polarity. Repelling (magnetism acting on magnetism) is not the same as expelling (no magnetism). I found many people seem to have a conceptual problem understanding the difference between of something, a measure of something and a lack of something.

AC

Quote from: NickZ on 2024.01.21, 14:21:35
   In my tests, I have never seen any current coming from the ground. Current does NOT come from the earth ground.
If you think that that is where the extra energy is coming from, please prove it. As current goes to ground, not the other way around.

   NickZ

It depends on whether grounding is a phase  :D
Kapanadze "probably" supplied electricity in this way.

  Then, it's not an Earth ground, but something else that has not been proven by anyone, as yet.
  And if so, what would be the point? Kapanadze had lots of witnesses. Not all were fools.

   NickZ

I'll say it again. None of us was at the presentation, let alone have any reliable measurements. The only thing we see is a voltmeter, an ammeter and a measurement of the number of hertz. In no video you can be sure what we see when current measurements are taken.
I've tried analyzing each video against another video and there's always something missing. As if the operator didn't show it on purpose. This is very irritating.
The current measurement with bricks shows 25A, but if you put HV on the gnd cable, it is best to use a spark gap, you will get an incorrect measurement, e.g. 25A or more. Freely.
Have you seen the transfer of 2kW power through ZVS using a 0.3-0.4mm wire? or less !!!? What is the video quality? it's so bad that you won't see such wires. If you do it right, even your guests won't see it.
After all these years, it is simply more likely to think that it was an energy transfer than that Kapanadze's device worked with some FE method.
It's been 20 years or more, isn't it strange!? Kapanadze has been dead for probably 2 years and he still has nothing.
GIA tried to show this device recently but what he showed was really funny. He deleted the videos from YT. I saw them and there was nothing of value there.
I'll give you another example:
If you didn't know how Copperfild's flying trick was done, you'd still think he had powers out of this world like Superman.

..
Soon someone will write again that I am from an anti-FE organization  :P

  I'll say it again... We've heard it all before. Do you have anything new to add?
As you are just saying that kapanadze was a fake, while showing no proof, at all.
You expect any one to consider your empty claims???
  Because, I don't...

   NickZ

maxmolone

QuoteAfter all these years, it is simply more likely to think that it was an energy transfer than that Kapanadze's device worked with some FE method.
It's been 20 years or more, isn't it strange!? Kapanadze has been dead for probably 2 years and he still has nothing.

No worries comrade, we in the west are very creative and resourceful. 

In fact, we don't need free energy and our renewable energy sector is growing at a remarkable rate. The trend points to a 80% rise in global renewable-electricity capacity from 2020 levels by 2026. Which means it's game over for most authoritarian failed petro states like Russia, Iran and much of the Middle East. What good is oil and gas if nobody needs it?.

Free energy would speed up the progress towards clean energy but we all know it's still happening one way or another.

AC

NickZ:
Can I ask the same thing: Do you have confirmation that any of his devices have been replicated and can be considered real?
So why do I have to prove to you that this is not what everyone wants. If the device runs on gasoline, is it real or not? You probably have a car to understand.

I'm trying to convince you that this could have been one of many hoaxes, but you still think I'm wrong. You don't know how much I'd like to be wrong. I am convinced that you simply do not accept the thought that it could be a transfer of energy even through one wire. You know it's possible and you still want proof from me that Kapanadze did it like that?!

At least try to be objective because it doesn't cost anything.

Why don't you do more tests with coils? because you have obtained nothing. It's not a shame because no one has achieved anything and you are at the same level.
All these wonderfully wound transformers, Tesla coils, magnets in a thousand combinations do nothing, but there are several hundred thousand freeEnergy videos on YT and what? Have you built a spring with a coil that turns on a 20W lamp? NO because it's fake and that's it.
If you don't know that energy passes through the ground, check it out. I checked and that's why I understood that Kapanadze did it that way because there is no proof to the contrary.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.01.23, 08:28:58
NickZ:
Can I ask the same thing: Do you have confirmation that any of his devices have been replicated and can be considered real?
So why do I have to prove to you that this is not what everyone wants. If the device runs on gasoline, is it real or not? You probably have a car to understand.

I'm trying to convince you that this could have been one of many hoaxes, but you still think I'm wrong. You don't know how much I'd like to be wrong. I am convinced that you simply do not accept the thought that it could be a transfer of energy even through one wire. You know it's possible and you still want proof from me that Kapanadze did it like that?!

At least try to be objective because it doesn't cost anything.

Why don't you do more tests with coils? because you have obtained nothing. It's not a shame because no one has achieved anything and you are at the same level.
All these wonderfully wound transformers, Tesla coils, magnets in a thousand combinations do nothing, but there are several hundred thousand freeEnergy videos on YT and what? Have you built a spring with a coil that turns on a 20W lamp? NO because it's fake and that's it.
If you don't know that energy passes through the ground, check it out. I checked and that's why I understood that Kapanadze did it that way because there is no proof to the contrary.

Well I wouldn't take any notice to that idea, If you look for the old Erick Dolard, Tom Brown Vids from the 60s / 70s  they show and prove the earth idea does work and the old Telegraph system exployted that idea, Any way years ago I met this girl I was told her name was Linda I did ask her what her name was, I couldn't make out if she said Linda malone or leave me alone. :D ;D

You just don't want to hear it because it's closer to the truth than fooling yourself that it can be so.
You're right; I'm writing the same thing again and there's no point in doing it here again.

I'm not buying your carousel  :D

Gents
Here ideas to support research are welcome,
Back and forth looped fights ( decade old)

Not what our host wishes for this forum.
Nor most readers ( constant endless battles with no end in sight)

Experiments to support claims ?
Or please wait to post until such time as a claim or idea towards topic tittle ( how it might work?).

Max
We are well aware of your "energy transfer" from mains....it has always been a possibility ( since day one of claims)

Please no looped battles here ..
Wrong kind of perpetual for research forum ( chases member/builders away)

Respectfully
Chet

Quote from: Chet K on 2024.01.23, 14:45:49
Gents
Here ideas to support research are welcome,
Back and forth looped fights ( decade old)

Not what our host wishes for this forum.
Nor most readers ( constant endless battles with no end in sight)

Experiments to support claims ?
Or please wait to post until such time as a claim or idea towards topic tittle ( how it might work?).

Max
We are well aware of your "energy transfer" from mains....it has always been a possibility ( since day one of claims)

Please no looped battles here ..
Wrong kind of perpetual for research forum ( chases member/builders away)

Respectfully
Chet

These are not battles, these are facts.
Trying to draw attention to a cheater sometimes has a different effect than the right one  :o

Energy transfer via interface seems a bit more complicated than 'it's so simple you'll laugh'.

As already mentioned
Our host is acceptable to "actual investigation" of Wesley/Stivep Zeneck claims!

He is absolutely not ok ( written many times) with rebooting overunity.com fights at this forum ( there is a reason overunity.com closed !( more fights than actual research)

HOPEFULLY..Arrangements will be made to investigate veracity of claim ( already mentioned)
This is not open to debate ( our hosts wishes for his forum.
Wesley /Stivep Zeneck claim is locked at this forum until Verpies agrees to reopen topic .

No attempts to engage or reboot years long wars will be tolerated here .

While we patiently wait
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Regarding the Kapanadze device, a transfer of energy from mains through one wire in the numerous Kapanadze video's is absurd.

To power a 2kw load the difference in potential or charge density between the Earth and device would need to be millions of volts. Ya think someone might have notice the area charged to millions of volts?. There hair would have been standing on end, arc discharges to everything they touched and all electronics being smoked.

To those who don't seem to understand even the basics of electrodynamics. For a one wire energy transfer to the device there would need to be a very high voltage source directly above the device ie.HV power line or below the device. Here's a clue, if people think there so clever they should try setting up a circuit in there back yard to transfer kilowatts of power from their mains. You see that feat would be just as miraculous as any real free energy device and win them a Nobel Prize.

Of course, then the critics would also have to explain all the replications ie. Ruslan and similar devices Moray, Hubbard etc. demonstrated in remote locations miles from the nearest power lines. In fact, Moray demonstrated a 20 kW device before a crowd 50 miles from the nearest power source. Ya think Moray was sucking 20kW of power from the mains 50 miles away?.

So let's be clear, anyone who thinks these inventors were transferring kilowatts of power from mains through one wire needs there head examined.

AC

Let's talk about the Kapanadze device and common sense...

The energy of an electrical system follows rules similar to a hydroelectric system. Water power is based on water pressure and flow rate and electrical power as electrical pressure in volts and electron flow in amps. Hydroelectric systems use high pressure/low flow turbines like a Pelton because it's more efficient. The water nozzle concentrates the high pressure head into a small cross section in effect concentrating the energy flow. Where a low pressure high flow turbine would require a very large flow and a large cross section.

When we talk about a transfer of electrical energy we can have X power as a high potential/pressure and a low flow current which can use small cross section wires. Or a low potential/pressure and a high flow current requiring a large cross section wire. Ergo, 12v needs big wires but 1000v can use smaller wires to transfer the same energy. Similar to hydroelectric systems, if we wanted to transfer large amounts of low voltage high current mains power the cross section of the power conversion system would need to be very large.

One ground wire would never work because the voltage is too low and the current flow restricted by the small cross section of the wire. A low voltage high flow current has a very low energy density at any given point. In effect, it would be like sticking a small straw into a slow moving stream and expecting water to start gushing out of the straw, it's completely absurd.

So anyone thinking a one wire ground connection is going to miraculously intercept kilowatts of mains power obviously understands nothing about power or energy. In fact Tesla described how these systems use a ground connection in the picture below. The Earth ground connection is used as a large reservoir to periodically store energy. We move a current into the ground and then out of the ground periodically which allows a current to flow through the rest of the system.

In the picture below of Tesla's one wire system...https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/true-wireless
1)The alternator pulls an electron current from the ground pushing electrons into the capacity (sphere).
2)The alternator pushes an electron current into the ground pulling electrons from the capacity (sphere).
3)The ground and sphere are simply a means to periodically store electrical energy so the current flow can alternate back and forth in one wire through the load.

As such, the fact that Kapanadze required a ground connection which pushed and pulled a current periodically from the ground implies that part of his system was based on Tesla's one wire concept seen below. You see, now were making progress...

AC

   Well maybe. But we don't know just how to pull 5.000 watts or more, from the ground. Like TK has shown, if that was really the source of the output. However, I doubt it.
   I have repetedly asked to be shown what energy from the ground can actually do. No one (none of us) has shown any free energy, at all. Much less from the ground..Other than one volt with zilch amps, from the ground.
So, to me, this talk of free energy from the ground has NOT been proven, as far as I can see.

  The surrounding ambient energies are a more probable source, in conjunction with an Earth ground line.
Besides, that Akula has also shown that his self runner will run without an Earth ground. Remember???
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

   NickZ

NickZ

QuoteWell maybe. But we don't know just how to pull 5,000 watts or more, from the ground. Like TK has shown, if that was really the source of the output. However, I doubt it.
   I have repeatedly asked to be shown what energy from the ground can actually do. No one (none of us) has shown any free energy, at all. Much less from the ground..Other than one volt with zilch amps, from the ground.
So, to me, this talk of free energy from the ground has NOT been proven, as far as I can see.

As I explained above energy is not being "pulled" from the ground. You seem obsessed with this point which may explain your lack of results. The Earth ground is simply a means to store energy in an open circuit similar to a capacitor in a closed LC circuit.

QuoteThe surrounding ambient energies are a more probable source, in conjunction with an Earth ground line.
Besides, that Akula has also shown that his self runner will run without an Earth ground. Remember???
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

If you had done the required research you would find most inventors went through a learning curve.
1)They started with low power FE devices which required a ground.
2)They built more powerful FE devices which still required a ground.
3)They discovered new ways to operate a FE device which did not require a ground.
4)A few inventors like SM discovered small inertial effects were present. Some inventors went on to increase said inertial effects to invent new means of propulsion. Mass-less or reaction-less propulsion devices often confused with the absurd notion of anti-gravity.

In fact, it's very easy to negate the need for an Earth ground. Consider the picture below, to anyone skilled in the art it should be obvious that we could replace the Earth ground with another "capacity". That is a capacity/sphere on both ends of the open circuit. However this requires much higher voltages and frequency of operation. I included a picture below of a one wire no ground system for the electrically challenged.

Here's a clue, logically if the Earth ground was removed and the device could still work then the ground had nothing to do with the energy gain or where the energy came from. They removed the Earth ground and it still worked so.... that's not what your looking for.

AC

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.01.23, 16:12:23

These are not battles, these are facts.
Trying to draw attention to a cheater sometimes has a different effect than the right one  :o

  Yes, quite true. Especially when you have absolutely NO Proof of what you call a "cheater".
Show some proof about your negative "claims". As more of your guesses, just won't do.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2024.01.24, 22:13:07

  Yes, quite true. Especially when you have absolutely NO Proof of what you call a "cheater".
Show some proof about your negative "claims". As more of your guesses, just won't do.

   NickZ

Sounds like sour grapes to me cant he get any thing to work Tesla is your man how did he do it and what is scalar energy and does it exist other than in our bodies as we are hearing a lot about them and other dimentions perhaps you should look it up on the internet and you tube.

Logically determined connection step by step:
https://youtu.be/P3JTC0jEUbE?t=701
https://www.youtube.com/@teslina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2pHB8XsgG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta3Xn7Z3CC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv6kdIDkfV4
https://www.sv1afn.com/en/products/vlf-lf-up-converter-for-sdr-or-analog-receivers-dc-120-khz.html
No comment
Wesley

   AC:
   I am not obsessed about anything. Perhaps you are...
   Please show how well an Earth ground can provide for energy storage. As you think that there is no extra energy coming (pulled) from the ground. You seam to think that the earth ground is a storage idea.
Can you show what you mean?  By showing it doing so, please. Or are you just guessing? Cause, that is what it sounds like to me.
   I have mentioned,  that Akula showed his rig running with No Ground line. That is why I don't agree with your unproven idea.

   NickZ

NickZ

QuotePlease show how well an Earth ground can provide for energy storage. As you think that there is no extra energy coming (pulled) from the ground. You seam to think that the earth ground is a storage idea.

What your trying to debate is considered grade school science. When a HV coil is connected to earth ground it moves electrons as an electron current into and out of the earth. The changing electron density/electrical pressure/energy of the coil and earth connection constitutes the periodic storage of energy.

QuoteCan you show what you mean?  By showing it doing so, please. Or are you just guessing? Cause, that is what it sounds like to me.
I have mentioned,  that Akula showed his rig running with No Ground line. That is why I don't agree with your unproven idea.

Yes I can show you exactly what I mean. Go to this website, http://amasci.com/miscon/whatis.html, and learn the basics of what electricity is and how it actually works.

This is also a good article relating to this thread, http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html, TESLA'S BIG MISTAKE? William Beaty Sept 1999

AC

   I said, can you show us what YOU mean? And, you send a link.
  That is not what I meant. By "showing it doing so".
   Please show the earth ground connection acting as a electrical storage medium, as you had mentioned, previously.
Or I will take that as wild guess, or theory, of yours, as yet unproven.

   NickZ

...

   That's great Wesley. But, can you SHOW us what that has to do with free energy?
We've heard what Tesla did.
   Where is YOUR proof, of obtaining free energy from the ambient to power a 5000 watts load? Like kapanadze showed? Just talk about what others did or have done is not what we are here for. Nor has that helped to obtain a self runner, at all.
   Also, not only lightning is what creates an energy ambient on Earth. Or there would be no energy where there is no lightning, like in deep space, but there is. If we only knew how to tap that source. A huricane does not need lightning to be a powerful huricane. But, it does need the power of the Earth's master vortex, as we do also. As there would be no light nor heat on this planet without that source, nor would this world exists without it.
Lightning is an effect, not a cause,  and is not the source of free energy that we are looking for.
 
    NickZ

   Now that we all know what NOT to talk about, things have gotten very quiet, here.
  It also looks like Delamorto was the only one building a kapanadze replication. Not easy, and without any replications that work previously.
   We do need at least someone who is still interested, and can really let us know if these TK, Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, Adrian Gustav, etz are All Faked, or not. I think that is the needed next step. And strange that this has not happened yet
Stivet goes to drink with Tariel, and that was the sum total of his visit. So, more info and proof is needed.
Until then we can keep arguing for another 10 or more years, Admin would love that...

So, how is that coming Delamorto? So simple you laugh?

   NickZ

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023.09.18, 21:33:45
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/65056c3969f5d4413a01d33d

Hi Mr Delamorto it's been a while but I hope every thing is well with you, Any way just a few days ago I was looking at your circuit and I must admit thr penny had droped and I realised why you had ringed your birilar coil in blue, it's a good idea have you managed to get the device working any way it's a good experiment.

Ps there is a lot of misleading information others have filled this thread with, such is life, Have a good one and thanks.

Sil

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2024.02.06, 13:39:15
Hi Mr Delamorto it's been a while but I hope every thing is well with you, Any way just a few days ago I was looking at your circuit and I must admit thr penny had droped and I realised why you had ringed your birilar coil in blue, it's a good idea have you managed to get the device working any way it's a good experiment.

Ps there is a lot of misleading information others have filled this thread with, such is life, Have a good one and thanks.

Sil

Hello, I was drinking, then I was working off my rest)))
It seems that I am beginning to understand a little how Kapanadze produces kilowatts!

In short, I think it's very simple, not at all like we did, but a little bit like we thought. The current actually comes from the ground cable.
Once I burned out my welding inverter while welding a structure on the ground. It turned out that the double diode was knocked out. Well, I changed it and forgot...
And just recently, I powered a single-wire power transmission circuit from my stationary power supply. And in my block the same double diode was knocked out....
Then I realized that burnout in both cases is caused by reverse current! It was like a reflection from the ground at a certain frequency! Most likely it depended on the length of the grounding cable...
And it dawned on me that Kapanadze was kicking the ground, and the reverse current was turning in the coil!
Maybe a circuit with 50Hz modulation - the simplest and safest! The main thing is to swing it up to the breakdown amplitude, it's easy, I did the same with an independent coil. And the reverse current is locked in the coil, and spins there under constant kicks of 50 hertz, through a spark gap


Kapanadze turns on his installation, which sends pulses through the discharge gap to the ground wire with a high frequency modulated by 50 hertz. And from the wire and the ground it receives a reverse current, which is locked in the coil. Seeing that there are discharges, he turns on the toggle switch and the reverse current from the ground remains in the coil and is spent on the load. All you need is a long ground wire and select a high frequency for the wave.

The Kapanadze installation is a device that forces the earth to give off current. His entire circuit does not work for the load at all!!! All he gets from the lamps is ground current. :o

  Well, that sounds like you are guessing, at what TK has shown.
If you are making a claim, it is important to be able to prove it doing so.

   NickZ

Instead of winding the grenade in the most conventional way thus; first two layers in one direction and others in another direction. Try this;

Layer1. CCW
Layer2. CCW
Layer3. CCW
Layer4. CW
Layer5. CW
Layer6. CCW

See where it resonates.

MHO

Maxolous

Typically, clouds accumulate a negative charge and the ground accumulates a positive charge, so the electrons that form lightning move from top to bottom. But sometimes - in less than one in 20 cases - it happens that the cloud is positively charged, and then lightning can strike from the ground to the sky.
The speed of the discharge is not as high as from heaven to earth!
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/5eaa94ff5ad69a13e9e9499c

    And, what does that have to do with free energy.
   After your negative comments about Akula, Ruslan, SR, etc., I find it hard to take anything you've said as fact.
Those that make such claims, should be prepared to show some proof, if you want to be taken seriously.
   
   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2024.02.11, 13:34:08
    And, what does that have to do with free energy.
   After your negative comments about Akula, Ruslan, SR, etc., I find it hard to take anything you've said as fact.
Those that make such claims, should be prepared to show some proof, if you want to be taken seriously.
   
   NickZ

I'm not interested in your opinion.
Enjoy the fakes of your idols, and I will find someone to discuss worthwhile schemes with.

The circuit for driving an independent oscillatory circuit is perhaps as follows.
This is only an inductor that pumps the oscillatory circuit according to my version of the circuit.
The resonant circuit is located on the inductor in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7po1lFs4zBw

The black circuit should generate pulse trains with a frequency of 50 hertz

https://youtu.be/MyiBJNjugfo?si=mwH1pti39SVdvF7P
Ruslan latest video

May I make a suggestion:  Any person wanting to replicate Kapanadze should start with his 2 patent applications and discuss them THOROUGHLY!!
I am so surprised that people don't do that. He also has 2 somewhat dissimilar patent applications. These differences should also be analyzed.
Also, his very first video probably contains the most clues, as he had high hopes at that time that the energy minister of Georgia would help.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.04.14, 20:38:14
May I make a suggestion:  Any person wanting to replicate Kapanadze should start with his 2 patent applications and discuss them THOROUGHLY!!
I am so surprised that people don't do that. He also has 2 somewhat dissimilar patent applications. These differences should also be analyzed.
Also, his very first video probably contains the most clues, as he had high hopes at that time that the energy minister of Georgia would help.

Yes, but as you can see, no one has repeated it to this day.
Apparently you were there and even you don't know how it worked.
There are only two possibilities:
1. the device was powered by HF through the ground wire but this is still very difficult to reproduce even if it was a scam.
2. the device had some type of fuel.

The only current most reliable clue is some sort of vacuum component! It is possible that it is a vacuum tube with a dynatron effect or another possibility as fuel. Not only did I come up with this, but many people dealing with Kapanadze now think similarly, especially since Kapanadze mentioned it.
Yes yes... he talked about many things but some of it must be true.


btw: ....Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a  capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd  plate?

the problem is that creating a charge sign always costs the same amount of power.
Of course, if you have only pluses (+) for nothing, you have free energy :)

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.04.14, 20:38:14
May I make a suggestion:  Any person wanting to replicate Kapanadze should start with his 2 patent applications and discuss them THOROUGHLY!!
I am so surprised that people don't do that. He also has 2 somewhat dissimilar patent applications. These differences should also be analyzed.
Also, his very first video probably contains the most clues, as he had high hopes at that time that the energy minister of Georgia would help.

Both of his patents are very ambiguous and don't mention anything specific that would enable a replication. All of the boxes on the diagram in the patent are black boxes with no detail about what is contained within them.

The current amplifier box is the most interesting as it seems this is the core component that does the magic: 'increasing the current with respect to the input current'.

The only thing of interest in the diagram is the fact that box #9 is the largest of all the boxes in the diagram. I'm not sure if the relative size difference of the boxes has any relevance at all, or if there is a link between the box sizes and the physical size.

Here is an annotated picture of the circuit diagrams in the two patents side by side:

(https://i.ibb.co/7znnpjM/Patent-diagrams-annotated.png) (https://ibb.co/LPxxgYj)

What's interesting is that there is no reference to a current amplifier on the earlier patent. Maybe this was added in the later patent as a misdirection?

I have a strong suspicion that the key thing is the positive feedback from output to input.

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_circuit
http://www.r-type.org/articles/art-285.htm

(https://i.ibb.co/jysHGWy/art285m.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Fig. 11. In the non-limited or linear type of super-regeneration, the dequenching half-cycle, starting at A, stops at B, before the limiting amplitude has been reached.

QuoteIn Fig. 11, if oscillation is started from, say, 10 μVolts at A and allowed to grow at compound interest, say, 5%, until B, each cycle will be 1.05 times greater than the one before it. Suppose there are 150 cycles. Then the amplitude of the final one will be 10 × 1.05149, which is 10 × 1440. If the starting level had been, say, twice as great, the output would have been double, too. Output is exactly proportional to input. Working this way, there is less amplification per quench cycle, but more quench cycles, less selectivity, no AGC action, and no distortion.

From Kapanadze patent:

QuoteWO 2008/103129, Page 1, Line 22: A very few part of this electric energy generated is used by the device to feed itself and the most part is discharged ready to be used.

Well, I think this is some progress. What interests me is that in the second patent, both coils go to ground and are therefore shorted once you include the "on" of the power switch.
Also, how do you get a high-frequency generator into a high-power circuit without blowing it? -
But perhaps the most interesting thing about the patents is that TK says the excess energy comes from the air/:- presumably in close proximity to the device.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.04.15, 11:24:17
Well, I think this is some progress. What interests me is that in the second patent, both coils go to ground and are therefore shorted once you include the "on" of the power switch.
Also, how do you get a high-frequency generator into a high-power circuit without blowing it? -
But perhaps the most interesting thing about the patents is that TK says the excess energy comes from the air/:- presumably in close proximity to the device.

I think the notion of the excess energy coming from the air is another misdirection. We know that Tariel was a slippery character and would not want to reveal the working principle of his device to anyone. Remember he slipped the term 'so easy you'd laugh'?

Regarding the high frequency generator - I think the term high frequency is subjective. If you ask a household electrician what high frequency is, they'd most likely say anything over 60Hz. If you asked an RF engineer what high frequency is, they'd probably reply with gigahertz or terahertz.

What does he mean by generator? Is he referring to the generator of the PWM signal to trigger a high power semiconductor? Let's assume he means the ability to generate a high frequency PWM signal that triggers a transistor, IGBT or MOSFET. I assume he was using a high power transistor given the equipment he likely had to hand in Georgia.

Let's say that when Tariel says high frequency, he's referring to a frequency in the 1KHz to 1MHz range. Is it not difficult to build a high power semiconductor switch that operates at these frequencies. I've built MOSFET switches that work up to 1MHz (according to the datasheet, but often work in excess of this) that can handle 128A at 2.6kV, which is 333kW. You can also run them in series to double the voltage rating or in parallel to double the current rating.

I think boxes 3, 4 & 5 in the first patent are simply a semiconductor switch with a means of triggering. Notice that box 3 doesn't appear in the second patent. Box 3 is referred to as 'points', which I take to mean switch using railway nomenclature. One thing I've noticed is that switch isn't easily translated from Eastern European languages very well. Sometimes you see a switch referred to as a 'key'.

A switch / interrupter (commutator / spark gap / semiconductor) is absolutely necessary if using a capacitor discharge mechanism, which it looks like he's doing based on the appearance of box #2 (first patent) and box #5 (second patent).

I think we should demystify the Kapanadze device.
I disagree with Wesley that it is a transmission of electricity - for even if it was - this one invention would be worth billions on its own ie. in savings of copper wires, especially for military uses. The savings do not even have to be economical savings. Imagine a natural disaster with all the power lines down. Such a device would save many lives.
Re the patent with points: This is related to his very first video where he shows us the use of points.
In the aquarium 2, the spark gap is a runaway arrestor. Because the output is returned to the input with a small energy gain, this can easily cause a runaway situation. By paralleling the load with the spark gap, any excess energy is dissipated.
Believe it or not, I gave the specifications for the Aquarium 2 device,  which is one reason I am still sore about the way the project turned out.
I think we should focus on building the L1 of his device first.
That is:- to set up a circuit that produces HF - let's say at 1 MHz and runs through a coil that is grounded to an earth ground.
The circuit should be able to handle at least 2 KW hours of power.
That would be a good first step.
Maybe we should set up a private builders group because, at any one time, you can see 2 or 3 members and up to a hundred anonymous non-contributing visitors.
Re energy from the air: Here is where I am with this. There may only be milli watts available (ie in terms of "static" electricity) at any one point. (We know it is there because of static shock etc.) But what if we pulse those milliwatts at MHZ speed? Then you have real useable power.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.04.16, 08:29:33

That is:- to set up a circuit that produces HF - let's say at 1 MHz and runs through a coil that is grounded to an earth ground.

The simple circuit:

1. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AyaO-RaTiaOmyT3-89UxPdrMHEBCCrxb1irZKsVMg_8
https://youtu.be/GbMAvn7nRWo?t=889

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjTv-Hj0h18
https://youtu.be/YjTv-Hj0h18?t=427

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMAbTVCL8vI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPcdK49dkTo

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.04.16, 08:29:33
I disagree with Wesley that it is a transmission of electricity

I agree with you on that. Wireless transmission of usable power over 1m seems way beyond what Tariel would seemingly be capable of with the materials he used and build quality he shows.

Quote
the output is returned to the input with a small energy gain

I think this is the key to the whole operation.

Quote
Believe it or not, I gave the specifications for the Aquarium 2 device

Yes, I have been following this saga from the very beginning. Thanks for all your help and input over the years!

Quote
I think we should focus on building the L1 of his device first.
That is:- to set up a circuit that produces HF - let's say at 1 MHz and runs through a coil that is grounded to an earth ground.
The circuit should be able to handle at least 2 KW hours of power.

What voltage and current do you think should be passed through the coil into an earth ground, running at 1MHz? The current is going to be limited depending on the inductive reactance of the coil (https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/inductor/ac-inductors.html).

Quote
Re energy from the air: Here is where I am with this. There may only be milli watts available (ie in terms of "static" electricity) at any one point. (We know it is there because of static shock etc.) But what if we pulse those milliwatts at MHZ speed? Then you have real useable power.

That's precisely the way superregenerative receivers work. They accumulate power in tuned LC circuits in small increments over time and then discharge at a lower rate. Considering radio freqencies, then you're talking about frequencies in the approximate range 1MHz to 30MHz.

Assuming 1MHz frequency and dumping at 50Hz, then you've got 20,000 cycles to accumulate energy for every 1 dump (1,000,000Hz / 50Hz = 20,000Hz).

Apparently none of you have seen 2kW! do you understand how much energy this is! Take a 500W halogen lamp and turn it on. You will understand that this is already a lot. If you still don't know how much it is, think about a dynamo in a bicycle and how difficult it is to light a small 1-2W bulb!
One thing is visible in Kapanadze devices is that power is not voltage but current! The voltage is stable, but the current adjusts.

In the garden we see a device that immediately increases the current when light bulbs are turned on. The current is huge.
If the voltage increases, it would have to increase to thousands of kV and this would be visible. No one would stand next to such a device.
This has been discussed for a long time but ok.

I just saw something in another post (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=403.msg111656;topicseen#msg111656) that is related to my theory that the key is positive feedback, i.e. looping output back to input.

QuoteThis device was a collector loop of several turns with four coils wrapepd over it, forming a toroid.  The coils were switched sequentially at around 28mHz.  It was not impessive until he looped the output back to the input.  After brief operation it overheated, cooked, fireballs on the bench, etc.  Two other people witnessed this event on Skype.

Good. I think we are starting to think logically.
Here I introduce a bare-bones circuit based on the Aquarium 2 patent. I am guessing at the polarities so any amendments or confirmations would be possibly useful. Notice that the spark gap is a "runaway" limiter. Without the spark gap, the device would melt and potentially explode.
Our first job is to build module 4. The coils l1 and l2 over which everyone has been obsessing are of no material value to the invention in my opinion. They are simply the output coils and by necessity have to be of high caliber to withstand the current - anything up to 5 KW hours.
In my diagram, I have omitted the start-up sequence which does not affect the working principle. This is so we can understand the core principles involved. As to how we can get energy from the air into the device in the first place - I have some ides but that is secondary at this stage.

I was thinking something along the lines of:

(https://i.ibb.co/TTd47sK/Kapanadze-drawio-2.png) (https://ibb.co/3sQpjnf)

I think current amplifying is done by charging and discharging capacitor especially in aquarium 2 device in very high rate, when current is coming from ground because of voltage difference between part of device in air and part connected to ground.

I think we are moving too fast.
The similarity between patent1 and patent2 is the series tank circuit in each.
So each has a high frequency generator let's say at least 1 MHZ, a coil (part of a pair), and a capacitor.
Therefore it has to be high frequency AC, not DC or the cap will charge up and block the current.
I believe it also has to be a resonant tank circuit. So this poses some challenges in order to maintain resonance
bearing in mind that l2 has a potentially variable load.
One of the peculiarities of a resonant tank circuit is that it consumes no power apart from minor circuit losses.

Unfortunately, the second feature of a resonant circuit is that it does not produce any additional energy.

Efficiency of  induction cooker:

QuoteConventional residential cooking tops typically employ gas or resistance heating elements to transfer energy with efficiencies of approximately 32% and 75-80% respectively. Residential induction cooking tops instead consist of an electromagnetic coil that creates a magnetic field when supplied with an electric current. When brought into this field, compatible cookware is warmed internally, transferring energy with approximately 85% efficiency.

https://www.energystar.gov/partner_resources/products_partner_resources/brand-owner/eta-consumers/res-induction-cooking-tops

Aking.21, I know you went to visit Tariel some time ago to have a hands on demo of the aquarium unit. If you could turn back time, what would you have done differently during that trip? What questions might you have asked him, with the benefit of several years of reflection and learning?

I guess one of them might have been to ask for a demo with capacitive and inductive loads in addition to the resistive heater.

Quote from: lfarrand on 2024.04.23, 08:53:01
Aking.21, I know you went to visit Tariel some time ago to have a hands on demo of the aquarium unit. If you could turn back time, what would you have done differently during that trip? What questions might you have asked him, with the benefit of several years of reflection and learning?

I guess one of them might have been to ask for a demo with capacitive and inductive loads in addition to the resistive heater.

I didn't go, but my business partner went with an electronics engineer.
A second trip was arranged without my input and a second much more powerful generator was commissioned.
On arrival, we brought in a much more highly qualified engineer who had a myriad of equipment with him.
When Kapanadze saw our electronic equipment he refused to give the demonstration which had been paid for.
Consequently, we stopped paying him a salary, and the communication was severed.
Much of the mistrust was our fault because we did not know we had to find an immigration expert to get him into the UK.
I contacted the Isle Of Man immigration woman, but in retrospect, she was utterly useless.
By the time we found out what we should have done, it was too late.
Kapanadze had lost trust in our team.
I was quite happy to ask for a resistive heater. Anything that can power a 2 kw heater for 4.5 hours can power most household equipment.
If I had been there I would have used an NE2 bulb as a meter. That's all that is necessary.
An NE2 bulb would have seen transmitted energy and been able to zone in on the source.
It can also see the field around the device. It can also tell the difference between dc and ac and skewed ac.  It can also detect positive and negative. It can also detect voltage when used in series with other ne2 bulbs. Plus it doesn't blow up. It is truly a remarkable instrument.

Aking.21
From your description you made more than a few critical mistakes with Kapanadze which raised red flags in my opinion. However as a real Engineer/Inventor who actually understands technology and what inventors want I can help.

QuoteI didn't go, but my business partner went with an electronics engineer.
A second trip was arranged without my input and a second much more powerful generator was commissioned.
On arrival, we brought in a much more highly qualified engineer who had a myriad of equipment with him.
When Kapanadze saw our electronic equipment he refused to give the demonstration which had been paid for.

Mistake one, you moved the goal posts and I would refuse any testing as well. Your not paying for his intellectual property only to test the input versus output to determine the devices validity. As an Engineer who used to test FE devices I could easily determine the efficiency with minimal equipment. Did you even have a plan?, why was everything about the whole testing process not spelled out and approved in advance?.

QuoteConsequently, we stopped paying him a salary, and the communication was severed.
Much of the mistrust was our fault because we did not know we had to find an immigration expert to get him into the UK.
I contacted the Isle Of Man immigration woman, but in retrospect, she was utterly useless.
By the time we found out what we should have done, it was too late.
Kapanadze had lost trust in our team.

A lack of trust?, first you tried to move the goal posts then cut a supposedly marginal salary as a penalty then failed to relocate him. Of course on relocation Kapanadze would really be in trouble and have no control over anything. If I was representing Kapanadze my recommendation would be to look for new more credible investors. What were you thinking?.

QuoteI was quite happy to ask for a resistive heater. Anything that can power a 2 kw heater for 4.5 hours can power most household equipment.
If I had been there I would have used an NE2 bulb as a meter. That's all that is necessary.
An NE2 bulb would have seen transmitted energy and been able to zone in on the source.
It can also see the field around the device. It can also tell the difference between dc and ac and skewed ac.  It can also detect positive and negative. It can also detect voltage when used in series with other ne2 bulbs. Plus it doesn't blow up. It is truly a remarkable instrument.

It sounds like you were much more interested in learning how his technology works than helping him promote it in a way which could benefit him and humanity. The whole train wreck sounds very unprofessional which is why you failed.

AC

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2024.04.27, 17:40:08
Aking.21
...
It sounds like you were much more interested in learning how his technology works than helping him promote it in a way which could benefit him and humanity. The whole train wreck sounds very unprofessional which is why you failed.

AC

Do you think he was the first and the last?
You also want to have a device and you hope that you will learn how to do it here. Don't judge him just because he wanted to go there at all.
I don't know how corrupt and dangerous this country is for tourists.
If you don't know, let me tell you that Wesley was also there and talked to Kapanadze and even slept in his house. He saw a device made especially for him that produced 200W. He also got nothing like many other people.
Of course, if Kapanadze's device is real, there is something to worry about. Many of the alleged inventors of OU have never made any device available to humans. The lobby is certainly powerful, but I doubt that any of the devices could not be replicated. Thousands of people have tried and guess what? Do you think at least one person has a 100% OU replica?
Hmmm... I'm no longer naive about this but I'm still looking.

maxmalone

QuoteIf you don't know, let me tell you that Wesley was also there and talked to Kapanadze and even slept in his house. He saw a device made especially for him that produced 200W. He also got nothing like many other people.

If you went to Bill Gates house and slept on his couch would you expect him to give you the source code to Windows?. Well no that's completely absurd and you have a very strange sense of entitlement.

There is also the completely absurd notion that an inventor should give there work away. Nobody else gives anything of value away nor would they ever work for free. So why the blatant hypocrisy and double standard when we speak of inventors?.

QuoteOf course, if Kapanadze's device is real, there is something to worry about. Many of the alleged inventors of OU have never made any device available to humans. The lobby is certainly powerful, but I doubt that any of the devices could not be replicated. Thousands of people have tried and guess what? Do you think at least one person has a 100% OU replica?
Hmmm... I'm no longer naive about this but I'm still looking.

Billions of people also drive cars but guess what maybe 1% actually understand how to fix them. In fact, a recent study found 60% of Americans don't know how to change the tire on there car. The unfortunate truth is if everyone was even half as smart or capable as they think they are we would be living in a highly advanced utopian society wanting for nothing but obviously this isn't the case.

So let's be honest, people like Kapanadze aren't the problem people like you are. Kapanadze spent countless hours researching, building, testing and learning until he found success. Were talking about tens of thousands of hours of actual work not simply browsing some FE forums looking for a hand out. I have the utmost respect for hard working people like Kapanadze.

AC

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2024.04.28, 15:07:33
maxmalone
If you went to Bill Gates house and slept on his couch would you expect him to give you the source code to Windows?. Well no that's completely absurd and you have a very strange sense of entitlement.

There is also the completely absurd notion that an inventor should give there work away. Nobody else gives anything of value away nor would they ever work for free. So why the blatant hypocrisy and double standard when we speak of inventors?.

Billions of people also drive cars but guess what maybe 1% actually understand how to fix them. In fact, a recent study found 60% of Americans don't know how to change the tire on there car. The unfortunate truth is if everyone was even half as smart or capable as they think they are we would be living in a highly advanced utopian society wanting for nothing but obviously this isn't the case.

So let's be honest, people like Kapanadze aren't the problem people like you are. Kapanadze spent countless hours researching, building, testing and learning until he found success. Were talking about tens of thousands of hours of actual work not simply browsing some FE forums looking for a hand out. I have the utmost respect for hard working people like Kapanadze.

AC

You are the devil's advocate. Are you talking about Kapanaga as the man who did this!? What he did ? come on ? He showed some devices that no one can replicate to this day.
I will disabuse you of wrong thinking. If Tesla made fake devices, no one would repeat it so quickly. As you know, everything Tesla showed and did was true!!!! Kapanadze says that Tesla was the inventor of his device and yet it cannot be repeated.
Why ? because these are fake devices?
So before you give medals to people who may be cheaters, think twice.

Do not panic. Nobody has anything. 8)

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2024.04.28, 15:07:33
In fact, a recent study found 60% of Americans don't know how to change the tire on there car.
AC

I even know what I have do,if I unscrewed the tire and lost the nuts from it on the road.
I would remove one nut from the other three wheels and secure the last one with them.
And then I could arrive to a closest  service station.   ;)
But what it give me?

What do you think about this in the context of Kapanadze's device?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zswz43Se8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmhMAaRCou0

https://patents.google.com/patent/GEP20074088B/en?oq=GEP20074088B
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https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2003107553A/en?oq=RU2003107553

Quote...a given low pressure to accelerate the extraction of hydrogen and oxygen from water during electrolysis and automatically control the operation of vacuum pumps, tanks l the electrolyzer is equipped with a drain faucet, a trellis tray connected to an infrasound or ultrasonic generator containing a magnetostrictive vibrator-support through a rod, made with the possibility of creating elastic waves with an oscillation frequency of less than 16 Hz or from 20 to 1 GHz with a high frequency and a short wavelength .

The original of this patent is nowhere to be found.

Does anyone remember the type or specification of the ignition module during Wesley's ie (STIVEP)'s visit to Kapanadze?
From memory, Kapanadze built him a 200-watt device that powered a 200-watt light bulb.
There was an ignition module that was seen in the build.
I am looking for its specifications in particular.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.05.13, 00:43:20
Does anyone remember the type or specification of the ignition module during Wesley's ie (STIVEP)'s visit to Kapanadze?
From memory, Kapanadze built him a 200-watt device that powered a 200-watt light bulb.
There was an ignition module that was seen in the build.
I am looking for its specifications in particular.

12KV OUT

I had a diagram of this device somewhere but I can't find it. He was on OU.com

Thank you Maxmalone.

I am putting this reference video up for convenience on this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAPe3DiYt2o

It is important to note, that the module has AC output. I think, (although it is difficult to follow Wesley's description as he sometimes gets too technical).
I am guessing that Wesley means square-wave (pulsed) AC.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.05.13, 12:14:28
Thank you Maxmalone.

I am putting this reference video up for convenience on this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAPe3DiYt2o

It is important to note, that the module has AC output. I think, (although it is difficult to follow Wesley's description as he sometimes gets too technical).
I am guessing that Wesley means square-wave (pulsed) AC.

The device starts from 9V. Unfortunately, there may be an AGM 12V 7Ah or any other battery inside.
When you turn the volume up, you will hear the characteristic sound of the relay-type switch when turned on. If you know, 9V is enough to turn on such a relay and then the energy comes from the battery.
All you need is a 200W inverter. Operating time on this battery is approximately 15 minutes.
How long did the film and show last?
I talked to Wesley and he admitted that this could be just such a possibility.  :(

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.05.13, 12:39:57
The device starts from 9V. Unfortunately, there may be an AGM 12V 7Ah or any other battery inside.
When you turn the volume up, you will hear the characteristic sound of the relay-type switch when turned on. If you know, 9V is enough to turn on such a relay and then the energy comes from the battery.
All you need is a 200W inverter. Operating time on this battery is approximately 15 minutes.
How long did the film and show last?
I talked to Wesley and he admitted that this could be just such a possibility.  :(

I think Wesley said 35 minutes, with no sign of power loss.
Note: Turning on a relay is not unusual or special. It is in Kapanadze's patent.

This is a parallel to Don Smith's circuit. Because Don used open air coils he needed tuning but not a ground connection. Tariel exploits the field storage of the caduceus and the capacitance of the coax to achieve the same thing but he needs ground for an electron source.
The ground mesh of the coax becomes an extremely large EMP transmission to the flame line and the dielectric of the coax becomes a buffer to the kinetic energy thereby holding the charge there instead of completely in a resonant outer field. The coax dielectric area and the caduceus nodes work together at different time frames of the energy entropy.
Filament based resistors always light up in EMP field. Lets see motors.
Twin lead is essentially coax in this usage. The two leads in both are separated by a plastic dielectric.
Just another version of the stun gun charge pump circuit. The driver oscillation can be gotten in a number of ways including pwm.
Armstrong to a Walton-Cockcroft is the cheapest and most passive step up.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.04.30, 10:40:09
What do you think about this in the context of Kapanadze's device?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zswz43Se8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmhMAaRCou0

https://patents.google.com/patent/GEP20074088B/en?oq=GEP20074088B
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https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2003107553A/en?oq=RU2003107553

The original of this patent is nowhere to be found.

Hi Sergh,

On original patent do you mean the Russian language version of RU2003107553 ?  Or this Georgian patent:  GEP20074088 ?
Just curious...   8)   

Gyula

Hello Gyula!

What do you think about Tariel Kapanadze as a person?
To what extent was he telling the truth? How much truth is there in his words?

Do you believe that he is an architect?
How can this be true when he is talking about some group of developers who have been working on some secret project related to anti-gravity since the 1980s?
Isn't this strange to you? Why did the "architect" take up antigravity? Or why did an architect invent a car that runs on water?
What do antigravity and hydraulic electric generators have to do with architecture?

I'm guessing he's not an architect. The profession of "Architect" was invented for him by secret services like the KGB so that he could answer neighbors and other strangers when asked about his specialty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharashka

https://youtu.be/5YCIV5EaTdg?t=31

The Georgian patent most likely belongs to Kapanadze's people.
https://patents.google.com/patent/GEP20074088B/en?oq=GEP20074088B
But a patent is an abstraction, not an assembly instruction. There are some key points that you can then refer to in court.

The Georgian patent contains a reference to another patent, which the authors of the patent considered similar to theirs.
It is not a fact that this Russian patent actually relates to the Georgian patent.
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2003107553A/en?oq=RU2003107553
But for some reason, the authors of the Georgian patent thought that this Russian patent had something in common with their invention.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.05.13, 00:43:20
Does anyone remember the type or specification of the ignition module during Wesley's ie (STIVEP)'s visit to Kapanadze?
From memory, Kapanadze built him a 200-watt device that powered a 200-watt light bulb.
There was an ignition module that was seen in the build.
I am looking for its specifications in particular.

This is an ordinary device for igniting gas. If you have a gas stove in your kitchen, you, of course, use a similar device every day when cooking.
The device creates a very weak spark; the spark is only suitable for igniting the gas-air mixture in a domestic gas boiler.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI

QuoteOperator: why didn't you do it to the end?

Kapanadze: Then it turned out that it was very inconvenient... it was very inconvenient in a vacuum... because... In general, then at the factory we tried it in a vacuum and... the generator and the whole thing should have been in a vacuum mechanism. We tried to take the generator outside, since something can always burn out there, and then you need to open it all, and change something in the generator, etc., it's inconvenient. They added seals to keep the vacuum in the mechanism, and so that the generator was outside, but... yes, it was rotating, but the part that remained outside was heating up. Then, after much thought, I took it and... in general, they offended me, greatly offended me and... we took it and took it out in such a way (meaning out of a vacuum) that everything worked out, I myself did not expect it. Everything worked out, it worked without a vacuum, but do you know what the difference is? In a vacuum, we get about 2-3 times more energy. Now it is taken outside and gives so much energy that... if anyone wants to use it at all, I no longer understand them because.
....
I'm talking about the Law of Conservation of Energy, that's where they come from? I told this to many, Mr. Zurab, that let's analyze the Law of Conservation of Energy. But let's apply it to a physical system in which there are more than 3 dimensions, and after that we'll talk about whether we violate it or not..
....
Another conversation between me and the physicist. He says: well, okay, we know that there is inexhaustible energy in space, but what is it doing here? I told him: where is our Earth, is it not in this space? Isn't it part of our solar system? Don't talk nonsense. A man comes up and says: how dare you say that you are destroying the force of gravity. I answer: where did I say that? If someone wrote such a thing, show me, I say, if I told such a thing to anyone, and several times like this, and in the end I told them: that person at least had a conscience. And we never saw each other again. Have you ever read about the theory of curved fields?

Other patents of Tariel Kapanadze from the Turkish patent database:

Serge
I don't find it strange that Kapanadze was an Architect at all.

I have four professions and know a few people with more.
Which is helpful because we never have to worry about a job.
Obviously having multiple professions and skill sets gives a person many more options.

Here's a clue, almost every successful FE inventor also had multiple professions
and skill sets. They were into everything and continually learning unlike most people.

AC

Allcanadian, have you studied all Kapanadze's words?

This is not an DIY amateur project, it is the result of the team's long-term professional work.
According to Kapanadze, he has worked professionally since the 1980s on this topic as part of a development group. But then he left this team to publish and commercialize the devices he created based on long-term research and work of the development team.

Watch this video, turn on English subtitles:
https://youtu.be/ycrmPwny6bQ?t=218

Quote
00:03:34.260 --> 00:03:43.760
Well, this is an idea, Mr. Merab, we had a conversation before, we worked on this topic for a long time...

00:03:44.040 --> 00:03:46.600
somewhere in the last 20-25 years

00:03:47.100 --> 00:03:50.980
In the end we achieved success...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI
This is not in the subtitles, but it is in the full text:

QuoteTK - It was not convenient to put all together, because we where testing the device in the factory
(the factory he mentioned is in Tbilisi, this factory used to produce war planes, I think tanks etc
during soviet union and later too, I think it had wide profile and I think until now it is called 31st
factory). If there was some details to replace or upgrade was not convenient to have everything
in one box. We put all mechanism on the vacuum, the mechanical mechanism was turning very
well in the vacuum but then the electric device was getting hot. During the test some managers
made me angry and I left the factory and started working on this device to improve it, I did not
expect but here we are, as you see the result exceeded my expectation.

Full texts in Russian are here, files are attached to the first message
https://mazeto.net/index.php?topic=11560.0

In the video about GreenBox, he said something similar.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.05.16, 17:20:26
According to Kapanadze, he has worked professionally since the 1980s on this topic as part of a development group. But then he left this team to publish and commercialize the devices he created based on long-term research and work of the development team.

I appreciate your information. Basically I am new to Kapanadze and came across him last year when I initially discovered Clemente Figuera. What peaked my interest about Tariels device was that is looks very similar to the Figuera description in his patents. Regardless, any insight is interesting to read.

-JA

Quote from: Jose Antonio on 2024.05.17, 01:21:29
I appreciate your information. Basically I am new to Kapanadze and came across him last year when I initially discovered Clemente Figuera. What peaked my interest about Tariels device was that is looks very similar to the Figuera description in his patents. Regardless, any insight is interesting to read.

-JA

If you go onto overunity.com https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze

You can catch up on the history of our interest in this device.

At great expense of time, I took a trip down memory lane.
Here is the vital last post of my business partner regarding the Aquarium 2 and the 3 phase 10 KW follow up.

Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12608 on: August 08, 2012, 01:17:53 PM »
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am the sponsor and visitor, that went to see TK's invention, on 2 occasions.
My first trip, with a physicist (bilingual in Georgian and English), was from the 5th to the 8th of May 2012.
We met TK, his son and twin brothers, who build these devices. TK builds the important parts.
I'm the guy in the blue shirt, holding the box. The plastic box weighed about 6-8 kilos and was shown to run a 2 kw fire (2 bar) for about 4 hours. I paid TK, via a friend of the physicist, 3000 USD. This payment was ongoing, as TK was in bad health. I also, via the friend, paid for TK's medical treatment. All was well and good. The device seemed to work without wires attached (except the earth). I picked up the box, looked underneath, followed the braided earth lead outside to an earth spike (for grounding), touched it and checked it for hidden wires. We agreed to sponsor TK, to pay for and build a 10 kw 3-phase version, that could be tested, using multi-meters etc. In the meantime, I approached 2 government agencies and started visa applications and commercial negotiations.
The return trip, with an RF Electronics expert and a box of test equipment (list below), was arranged for 26 July until 02 August. I had a Confidentiality Agreement ready and a Technology Licence contract. I emailed these legals to TK's lawyer, beforehand. On day 2 of the trip, I met with TK's lawyer, made slight amends with him to the 2 documents, printed off and signed the Confidentiality Agreement. The Technology Licence was to be signed after the tests were carried out. I had done my part, as agreed. TK, at this point, stated that he was worried about our test procedures. I emailed his lawyer and stated "I have asked *** to test the machine, to clarify what goes into the box and what comes out of the box. This will not be invasive testing. These tests are to prove that there is no outside source of energy and that the energy output is of good quality. Each test will be approved by TK before we carry them out. We have rented electrical test equipment to do this: Neotronics Impact Gas Detector. Fluke 435 Power Analyser. Fluke 199 Scopemeter. Radiodetection CAT and Genny. Monitran VM110. Flir i60. Mechanical stethoscope. Basic clampmeter. All these machines have standard data logging, to save the results. We shall take the process of testing very slowly, confirming with TK at every stage. If we cannot test, we cannot get our government to invest in a manufacturing company, or sell the power to industry."
We then waited a further 2 days. In the evening of day five, TK's son came over and showed us a picture of the (supposed) 3 phase machine on his digital camera (a 2" x 1" photo). We said thank you but stated that testing must take place for this working arrangement to proceed. We asked for a full day of testing and we only had 1 day left. Nothing until 7pm of the last evening before we flew out. During the previous 5 days, we had promises from TK that all is well and we could test that day. Each day we saw nothing. At 7pm, we were invited by TK to see the box running. We asked if we could test. He said no. We politely declined his offer. He called us repeatedly over the next few hours, to try to get us to see his box. To us, as commercial people, this was just TK trying to reel us back in, as a big fish that is getting off the hook. The last contact, was by email, from his lawyer, stating that they believed that this test equipment would find TK's secret. He also stated that we should risk some more money with TK, for a further 2 months. By the way, his lawyer amended the Technology Licence to state that I would pay him 1500 USD a month....
That said it all. We left Tbilisi at 3 am the following morning and went to the airport. Who did we see there? TK's son, in the arrivals section. Probably waiting to receive a new party, to look at the machine that I had paid for.
The total spend on the project was about 20,000 USD.
I am a committed Christian. TK said that this was a gift from God. I prayed with the man. He rewards me with insults, saying that I was trying to steal his technology. TK, unfortunately, in my opinion, lives in fear. His trust is verbal only. He gets a financial reward and runs away. When he was seriously ill, we paid for a doctor to see him and give him life saving medicine. This means nothing to him.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.05.16, 09:36:36

Hello Gyula!
....

The Georgian patent most likely belongs to Kapanadze's people.
https://patents.google.com/patent/GEP20074088B/en?oq=GEP20074088B
But a patent is an abstraction, not an assembly instruction. There are some key points that you can then refer to in court.

The Georgian patent contains a reference to another patent, which the authors of the patent considered similar to theirs.
It is not a fact that this Russian patent actually relates to the Georgian patent.
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2003107553A/en?oq=RU2003107553
But for some reason, the authors of the Georgian patent thought that this Russian patent had something in common with their invention.

....
Other patents of Tariel Kapanadze from the Turkish patent database:

Hi Sergh,

Thanks for your detailed answer with the additions too. My impression is Kapanadze went for the money, either by real or fake devices. If he used fake devices,
then he was a very clever 'magician' (helped by his people) to be able to hide the real energy source during the demonstrations. If he had real devices, then he probably was not allowed to
reveal anything, maybe just due to military reasons. Or he deliberately did not reveal it but used it for collecting money from the repeatable demonstrations.   

Regarding the GE and RU patents, here is a direct link to the Georgian GEP20074088B : https://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/media/fulltexts/inventions/4088.pdf (https://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/media/fulltexts/inventions/4088.pdf) but you may already know this.
 
The RU2003107553 was an application, later to be granted as a patent RU2243390C1 https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2243390C1/en?oq=RU2243390 (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2243390C1/en?oq=RU2243390) which is mentioned in
the Georgian patent as you also noticed this. It is not known why it was mentioned, maybe there is a rather remote similarity between the two patents
but without the 50 MHz oscillator frequency used in the GE patent.

Regarding the Turkish patents, TR200700996, it was also granted as WO2008103129 and it is in English.
The other Turkish patent, TR200701076, it was also granted as WO2008103130 and it also in English. Both are available for full download for instance here
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/?locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/?locale=en_EP) but you surely know about both patents too.

So it seems we are back to square one with Kapanadze...  reading also the above post from Aking.21.

Gyula

"Shota Kapanadze" may just be a similar surname.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.05.18, 02:20:56
If you go onto overunity.com https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze

You can catch up on the history of our interest in this device.

Thanks, I am well aware of that thread on that site. Honestly, in all the years the thread was active, there is a whole lot of nothing. 98% of that thread is people chest pumping or claims of esoteric knowledge.

What got my attention was that Tariel's device is similar to Clemente Figuera's device. Tariel uses the same rhythmic oscillation as Figuera identifies in his patent. Figuera also used a high voltage apparatus, much like Tariel does. Actually, my research indicated Barbosa and Leal also used the same method. Most don't know, but the Barbosa and Leal device was in two pieces, and only the second half, with the meters and thick cable for amp-probing was the one people saw. They also used a high voltage device and rhythmic oscillations of low voltage.

One thing I suspect is that Tariel had no idea of the fundamentals of how his device operated. Maybe he had an idea, but that was about it. What is interesting is that he seemed to abandoned his other devices and focused only on his electrical device. I thought hi other devices had been just as important.

Appreciate the information you shared. have you thought of contacting his son?

-JA

I wouldn't associate the hydrogen device with the 2004. It simply doesn't even match the size. Unless Kapanadze developed a hydrogen generator and converted it immediately into electricity.
Would that make sense? yes but is it possible? And why didn't he get the Nobel Prize for it?  :o

Quote from: Jose Antonio on 2024.05.19, 02:05:28
What is interesting is that he seemed to abandoned his other devices and focused only on his electrical device. I thought hi other devices had been just as important.

No, that's not true. Tariel presented more videos of hydraulic generators than electric ones.
And we don't even know what's inside the electric generators, especially when in his video about the generator in the aquarium you can hear the sound of a vibration pump.

Kapanadze's latest video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GPy8FuJSkc

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.05.19, 08:12:29
I wouldn't associate the hydrogen device with the 2004. It simply doesn't even match the size. Unless Kapanadze developed a hydrogen generator and converted it immediately into electricity.
Would that make sense? yes but is it possible? And why didn't he get the Nobel Prize for it?  :o

Do you see what's the matter...
Hydrogen is almost electricity.
The only thing that matters is in what form and in what place hydrogen appears.
If you've ever tried to charge an old dead battery, you've seen this strange effect. Immediately after voltage is applied to the battery, some relatively high voltage remains on it for a couple of seconds.
Where is it from?

If we create with a voltage pulse at the contacts of an electrolytic cell a high concentration of ions or atoms of hydrogen and oxygen, then this cell at the end of the pulse is quite capable of discharging to an external load.
Of course, in this form there is not too high efficiency, since the production of hydrogen and oxygen ions occurs using energy from the electrical network.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depolarizer

Quote from: sergh on 2024.05.20, 08:31:52

If you've ever tried to charge an old dead battery, you've seen this strange effect. Immediately after voltage is applied to the battery, some relatively high voltage remains on it for a couple of seconds.
Where is it from?

Yes, the voltage increases quickly but the battery power is not then in FE mode.

I admit that I have not checked these dependencies. It is true that after a momentary charging you get the impression that there is more power, but is it due to this amplification effect or is it just that there is still a high current in the battery but there is no longer much V. I think this is the correct explanation.
I doubt that Kapanadze would build a hydrogen reactor that produces electricity in amounts of 5kW or 100kW. You admit that it would be dangerous if hydrogen exploded. And how much hydrogen is needed for 5kW? It seems like not much, but is it really? and what is little?
Kapanadze says his battery is dead and that might be helpful, but then he disconnects the battery so it's not a hydrogen generator.

This is a diagram of this generator, apparently drawn by GIA.

Quote from: gyula on 2024.05.18, 16:12:50
Regarding the GE and RU patents, here is a direct link to the Georgian GEP20074088B : https://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/media/fulltexts/inventions/4088.pdf (https://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/media/fulltexts/inventions/4088.pdf) but you may already know this.
 
The RU2003107553 was an application, later to be granted as a patent RU2243390C1 https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2243390C1/en?oq=RU2243390 (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2243390C1/en?oq=RU2243390) which is mentioned in
the Georgian patent as you also noticed this. It is not known why it was mentioned, maybe there is a rather remote similarity between the two patents
but without the 50 MHz oscillator frequency used in the GE patent.

Just imagine how patents are issued. Those patents that are listed as cited are not necessarily related in any way to the patented device. They are quoted only because the author believes that they are issued for a similar device.
An inventor or even a patent agent found some patents in the database and considered them similar.
But it may also be the other way around: the inventor is personally acquainted with the author of a similar patent and thoroughly knows what device is mentioned in the patent.
Based on the deductive method, one can only assume that the inventor found it necessary to cite another patent for some reason.

Quote from: gyula on 2024.05.18, 16:12:50
Regarding the Turkish patents, TR200700996, it was also granted as WO2008103129 and it is in English.
The other Turkish patent, TR200701076, it was also granted as WO2008103130 and it also in English.

Did you translate Kapanadze's Turkish patents? The texts differ from the texts of international patents, there is something interesting.

I have used several online translators from Turkish to English, but I still can't explain where "platinum" came from in the translation.

Turkei patent 2007_00996:

Quote2- istem l'e göre bir bağımsız eneıji cihazı olup, özelliği; başlangıç eneıji kaynağından (15)
elektriği alarak, platine (3) aktaran kondansatörü (2) içermesidir.
3- İstem l'e göre bir bağımsız enerji cihazı olup, özelliği; yüksek frekans jeneratörünün (4)
ihtiyaç duyduğu frekansı aktaran platin (3) içermesidir.

Quote..platin (3) yüksek frekans jeneratörüne (4) elektrik vermesini sağlar.

Translated to English:

Quote2-It is an independent energy device according to claim 1, and its feature is; from the starting energy source (15)
It contains the capacitor (2) that receives electricity and transfers it to the platinum (3).
3-It is an independent energy device according to claim 1, and its feature is; of the high frequency generator (4)
It contains platinum (3) that transmits the frequency it needs.

Quote..The platinum (3) provides electricity to the high frequency generator (4).

in another Patent Kapanadze this device, similar by place to device (3) in turkei patent, named as kapacitor or as "point"

But this is not the only thing that will seem strange.
The patent clearly states that the output of the secondary coil produces energy at a low frequency of 50 or 60 Hz. But it is impossible to obtain a low frequency from a high frequency using filters and regulators. From a high frequency it is possible to obtain a low frequency only if you use some active element.

QuoteThis electrical energy created by the second coil converts it to the frequency required for use (220 V) thanks to the second frequency adjuster designed at the coil output.-50 Hz. or 110V-60 Hz) settings. This generated electrical energy is transferred to the desired usage area with the help of output terminals..Thanks to the conversion cables connected to the output terminals, the device feeds itself with the electrical energy it produces. This process takes place 1 minute after the device starts operating.-It happens after 2 seconds. After this process, the time
relay switch designed at the entrance of the device deactivates the initial energy source. After this stage, the device produces electricity independently..

The high frequency generator (4) transfers the high amount of frequency it produces to the first filter (5). The first filter (5) balances the frequency coming from the high frequency generator (4) and transmits it to the first coil (6) in a regular manner. The first coil (6) creates an electromagnetic field around it with the regular high frequency it receives from the first filter (5) and connects it to the second coil.
(10) ensures the transmission. Then, the high frequency passing through the first coil (6) passes to the first frequency adjuster (7) by following the first current cable (A)..The first frequency adjuster (7) balances the high frequency it receives in line with the need and regulates it in a way that does not damage the components at its output.

The high frequency coming out of the first coil (6) enters the second filter ( 8 ) via the second current path ( B )..The second filter ( 8 ) transfers the frequency it received from the first coil (6) to the frequency equalizer (9). The electromagnetic fields formed in the coils (6, 10) are different from each other and the magnetic field of the first coil (6) is higher than the second coil (10).,At this stage, the frequency balancer (9) balances the different electromagnetic fields formed in the first and second coils (6,10)..This balanced high frequency comes out of the second coil (10) and is adjusted to the desired frequency level (the frequency required for use) with the help of the second frequency adjuster (11). The user uses the electrical energy produced in the device with the help of the output (phase) (12) and output (neutral) cable (13).

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.05.20, 08:54:14
Yes, the voltage increases quickly but the battery power is not then in FE mode.
...
And how much hydrogen is needed for 5kW? It seems like not much, but is it really? and what is little?

Let's say hydrogen in Kapanadze's device is obtained "on-demand", only for 1 short cycle, one half-cycle of 50 Hz, every 10 milliseconds after a 10 millisecond pause.. No gas, only internal release in the form of ions or atoms, and immediate consumption.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.05.20, 10:52:09
Let's say hydrogen in Kapanadze's device is obtained "on-demand", only for 1 short cycle, one half-cycle of 50 Hz, every 10 milliseconds after a 10 millisecond pause.. No gas, only internal release in the form of ions or atoms, and immediate consumption.

Okay but you still need the right amount of hydrogen for 5kW.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.05.20, 11:34:10
Okay but you still need the right amount of hydrogen for 5kW.

Simple calculation:
In order to constantly produce 5 kilowatts of power, it is necessary to produce 5000 joules of energy every second.
Since the output of the device is alternating current with a frequency of 50 Hz, 50 cycles per second of energy production are used.
In one cycle it is necessary to produce only 5000/50 = 100 Joules.
The energy of the hydrogen oxidation reaction, heat of combustion, is about 140 Megajoules per kilogram. That's 140 kilojoules per gram of hydrogen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion

To produce 100 joules we only need to produce 0.0007 grams of hydrogen but 50 times per second for 5000 watts of output. Of course, this is a simplified calculation without analyzing efficiency and others.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.05.20, 11:54:59
Simple calculation:
In order to constantly produce 5 kilowatts of power, it is necessary to produce 5000 joules of energy every second.
Since the output of the device is alternating current with a frequency of 50 Hz, 50 cycles per second of energy production are used.
In one cycle it is necessary to produce only 5000/50 = 100 Joules.
The energy of the hydrogen oxidation reaction, heat of combustion, is about 140 Megajoules per kilogram. That's 140 kilojoules per gram of hydrogen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion

To produce 100 joules we only need to produce 0.0007 grams of hydrogen but 50 times per second for 5000 watts of output. Of course, this is a simplified calculation without analyzing efficiency and others.

If we are talking about, for example, a hydrogen exchanger, e.g. from a Toyota MIRAI car, as I read:
The exchanger itself weighs approximately 300 kG and delivers up to 90 kW.
This gives 3Kg/1kW, so 5kW = 15kg, stupid calculation.

ok. Do you know Mr. Petros Zografos? Greek.
It shows a device that probably produces hydrogen and immediately turns it into electricity.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Petros+Zografos

50kW generator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEulh5rUTQw


The problem is that it only works for him. Several measurement errors were found in his shows, so it is not known what he really shows and what he gets.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.05.20, 08:56:23
This is a diagram of this generator, apparently drawn by GIA.

Below is a picture of what I think a hydraulic generator looks like.
The oil tank and other hydraulic devices are probably housed in a massive base.  The flywheels, partially coated with construction foam, are used like flywheels in a regular car engine. Foam is used to absorb vibrations.
To start the hydrogenerator, an electric generator similar to the one in the video with a tin can and a coil can be used. Kapanadze shows this starter generator in the workshop when the shaft does not rotate, but some of the lights glow from the additional box.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.05.20, 14:37:08
Below is a picture of what I think a hydraulic generator looks like.
The oil tank and other hydraulic devices are probably housed in a massive base.  The flywheels, partially coated with construction foam, are used like flywheels in a regular car engine. Foam is used to absorb vibrations.
To start the hydrogenerator, an electric generator similar to the one in the video with a tin can and a coil can be used. Kapanadze shows this starter generator in the workshop when the shaft does not rotate, but some of the lights glow from the additional box.

To be honest, it's rather hard to believe.

Below is an excerpt from a post I made on overunity.com in 2012.

In my discussions with Kapanadze I told him that I had seen through his spark gap Tesla ruse. He was not amused. He initially tried to sell us on a hydro-mechanical device. I said it was smoke and mirrors - he was not amused. I think he got to respect my knowledge of his devices after a while. In the 2012 Aquarium 2 video our team were well aware of the spark gap use as a limiter - hence no contradiction from the Kapanadze side when our team figured it out and mentioned it. In fact one of Kapanadze's team even agreed and pointed out the thermal cut out device on the radiator.

One more thing:- Kapanadze is not capable of designing the hydro-mechanical stuff. He employs someone outside his circle to do that. So he is even prepared to pay for his "smoke and mirrors". Again I think the 2004 video is a big clue. It is almost as if he wants to erase it but cannot, so he tries to make us forget about it.
He first discovered the effect in 1996. So he made very little progress until 2004

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.05.20, 23:13:49
Below is an excerpt from a post I made on overunity.com in 2012.

In my discussions with Kapanadze I told him that I had seen through his spark gap Tesla ruse. He was not amused. He initially tried to sell us on a hydro-mechanical device. I said it was smoke and mirrors - he was not amused. I think he got to respect my knowledge of his devices after a while. In the 2012 Aquarium 2 video our team were well aware of the spark gap use as a limiter - hence no contradiction from the Kapanadze side when our team figured it out and mentioned it. In fact one of Kapanadze's team even agreed and pointed out the thermal cut out device on the radiator.

That's interesting. I don't know enough to understand how a spark gap can be used as a limiter. What is it limiting? Current?

I agree with your below statement regarding the 2004 video. All other videos are useless and the 2004 video identifies 90% of the device. In the 2004 video, his HV transformer looks like a small MOT with high voltage diodes mounted next to it.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.05.20, 23:13:49
One more thing:- Kapanadze is not capable of designing the hydro-mechanical stuff. He employs someone outside his circle to do that. So he is even prepared to pay for his "smoke and mirrors". Again I think the 2004 video is a big clue. It is almost as if he wants to erase it but cannot, so he tries to make us forget about it.
He first discovered the effect in 1996. So he made very little progress until 2004

That's disappointing to read. The mechanical devices looked promising.

-JA

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.05.20, 23:13:49
spark gap Tesla ruse.

Again the sacred spark gap...
Kapanadze also used wires, bolts and nuts, perhaps this is the reason for the over-unity?

A car with an internal combustion engine also has spark plugs. Does the car need nothing else to travel?

In order to understand what kind of people and what technology they encountered, it was then necessary before the trip to find a local assistant independent of Kapanadze's people, preferably with knowledge of local traditions, physics and a native speaker of the Georgian language.
  It was beneficial for Kapanadze to pretend to be a fool so that he would not be asked about the operating principle of his device.

It doesn't mean anything that the device was assembled carelessly and dirty. This doesn't mean it's simple.
Look how primitive the first transistor looked. But it was a breakthrough in future technologies.
https://www.bible-study-online.juliantrubin.com/bigten/transistorexperiments_files/first-transistor.jpg

Wesley knows not Georgian language, but Russian. There is a possibility that he guessed who he was dealing with there. There are all sorts of rumors... maybe he can clarify?

What is the difference between 2004; Aquarium 1,2 and others in relation to this device? size and weight.
As he wrote in Kapanadze's patent, it is HF.
If you know what a 2-4kW induction cooker looks like, you know that if you remove the casing, its weight will be <0.5 kg. Everyone probably knows what is there. Not much, true, but it only works because we supply it with electricity.
I want to say that what FE gives is relatively small. As you can see, it fits in a box and is light, so this device certainly works on HF because then elements such as the transformer may be small. Is there any transformer there at all? Probably yes.
An interesting observation is the fact that when we watch this movie, the ampere current measurement stands still for some time and then slowly goes up. What does it mean ? How to explain this?

This is a panel ammeter. Device for industrial use. Vibration-proof, shock-proof, withstands overloads 10 times.
In such devices, a liquid damper is installed so that the ammeter pointer does not break. Therefore, the pointer may move slowly.

In addition, please read the translations of Kapanadze's Turkish patents, which I posted above. It says about a time relay.

Thank you, I didn't know that. This explains this meter behavior.

The timer was discussed by Kapanadze and it is also in the patent.
Unless there's something I don't know.

That's how I read Turkish Patents. I have all the documentation.

I'm stuck specifically on bifilar coils, business requires new ideas  :)
There is a clue that may explain how energy is obtained.
So, experiments with a bifilar coil showed one property - this is a constant magnetic field, when the bifilar is exposed to an alternating field.
I remembered where I saw a bifilar and realized that this device creates a unidirectional magnetic field in the resonator - essentially a pump.
Rewatch the video in Turkey with this setup. Look at the design similar to the Tesla transformer. See how an inductor on a resonator is made!

Now compare how a resonator works with a conventional inductor and a bifilar one!

What happens in an ordinary inductor when a capacitor is discharged into it is oscillations back and forth while there is a breakdown. In this case, a variable magnetic field is created. Let's say you put a hose in the tank of your car and want to drain the gasoline. What do you do with the hose? Do you suck and blow into the hose, or just suck?)))   So this is what happens with a simple inductor - you suck and blow into the hose (ground wire). There is no pump effect!
But if the inductor is bifilar and the capacitor is discharged into it, then a unidirectional magnetic field appears in response to electromagnetic oscillations! The result is a pump effect when the thrust goes in one direction!
A high charge voltage also arises around the operating resonator, since it oscillates positively relative to the ground, relative to the second half of the capacitor. Since the ball on top is half the capacity, and the second is the earth!
It turns out that the installation is linear, it creates a draft of charges from the ground into the space surrounding the resonator.

Since the engines are running in the video, the frequency should be low, but what if the resonator rings at a high frequency?
We also see capacitances and coils - I suspect this is a high-pass filter.
In this case, the following scheme emerges for me!

A thrust is created and the space around the resonator is pumped with charges. The thrust of the charges goes linearly, from the ground to the ball. This line has low frequency modulation, which is filtered and applied to the load. I did something similar at the beginning of this topic!
https://dzen.ru/video/watch/650573800b441c1b59a91b7b

Probably it is modulation that motivates the transformers in his devices that we see.

There is a bifilar inductor in this video, a red frame, probably with a resonator and a copper tape wound in the middle of it.
To make a bifilar inductor, you need to take copper tape, wrap it with electrical tape or heat shrink, fold it in two and wind it.

Experiments will show how a pump with a bifilar inductor and a resonator will turn out.
Perhaps I will be right, then there will be many options for execution)))

Tell me how did you get this result? with bifilar coil.

The low frequency is on the ground. Kapanadze shows 24A on the gnd wire. I think you understood that this is the most important tip because to have 24A there are only two ways that I know of:
- via sparkgap HV
-Tesla coil

then A appears on the ground wire.

Your diagram combines two modes and this is very interesting.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.05.24, 07:50:44
Tell me how did you get this result? with bifilar coil.

This is an oscillogram of the resonator, when driven by a bifilar and non-bifilar inductor. It all depends on what polarity of the wave it is pumping, an example in the video again.

https://dzen.ru/video/watch/650573800b441c1b59a91b7b

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.05.24, 07:54:35
The low frequency is on the ground. Kapanadze shows 24A on the gnd wire. I think you understood that this is the most important tip because to have 24A there are only two ways that I know of:
- via sparkgap HV
-Tesla coil

then A appears on the ground wire.

Your diagram combines two modes and this is very interesting.

Remember with the green box video . Kapanadze connected the same box to different grounding connections. The power changed, he received 1 kW from the radiator, 5 kW from the water pipe. Now do you understand where the current comes from, or is it correct to call its flow?

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2024.05.24, 08:16:13
Remember with the green box video . Kapanadze connected the same box to different grounding connections. The power changed, he received 1 kW from the radiator, 5 kW from the water pipe. Now do you understand where the current comes from, or is it correct to call its flow?

Where does the electricity from the ground come from? There are too many theories, but I think it's a reflection effect.
The difference of 1 or 5 kW depends on the degree of earth resistance. I guess.

The ground absorbs low frequency current and reflects high frequency current. If we say it takes or reflects kapanadze, then it takes, pulls, the pump! If you reflect the wave, then what you invested is what you got, minus losses.
When he pulls from one end of the circuit and releases charges from the other end, he saturates the space around the resonator with them, taking away this energy, the environment immediately compensates for it. How the electromotive force compensates for the loss of the magnetic field in the coil.
I think this is why he is waiting for a discharge in some of his designs, waiting for the field to be dense enough to take energy from it.

Hello!

Bifilar coils are not visible there.
The primary coil of the Tesla transformer is wound with 6 turns of double wire, half of the wire is connected in series. In total, we get 12 turns of an ordinary coil, as in an ordinary multilayer coil of a household transformer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quCpm2IDNEQ

 ;D Well then, explain why you need to tie two wires together! And I see that the inductor was selected, so winding the length of the resonator to tune and create excess. But you can draw blue and red lines in another way. Do you have anything to answer?
That in all of Turkey there was not a couple of meters of wire of the required thickness?  ;D

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2024.05.23, 20:49:15
Now compare how a resonator works with a conventional inductor and a bifilar one!

I don't see any fundamental difference between the two graphs.
In the right graph, the oscilloscope input is biased relative to zero by a constant voltage. But this is not relevant to the topic.

In general, to analyze the efficiency, you need to attach real graphs of voltage, current and power at the active load.
The voltage at resonance increases along with the current, because of this, a lot of energy is spent on useless heating of capacitors and conductors in coils. Therefore, resonant circuits are not currently used in power electronics.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2024.05.24, 10:07:14
;D Well then, explain why you need to tie two wires together! And I see that the inductor was selected, so winding the length of the resonator to tune and create excess. But you can draw blue and red lines in another way. Do you have anything to answer?

It might be necessary to tie two wires together for many reasons. For example, Kapanadze had a piece of double ABC type cable.
Or Kapanadze wanted the primary coil to be small in height, as in an ordinary iron transformer.

You can draw it any way you like, but otherwise it won't work like an induction coil.
Aerial bundled cable (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_bundled_cable)

Quote from: sergh on 2024.05.24, 10:17:26
I don't see any fundamental difference between the two graphs.
In the right graph, the oscilloscope input is biased relative to zero by a constant voltage. But this is not relevant to the topic.

This specifically relates to my topic. Charge pump theme. But you didn't explain why the resonator needs to wind an inductor in 2 wires. Let's be specific - for what?! Otherwise it looks like BLAH BLAH BLAH

Take an iron transformer and unwind the primary or secondary. How many layers will there be? 2 - 3- 4- ...10?
These winding layers can be considered as winding in 2 - 3 -4- 5- 6- ..10 wires and then switching them in series.

Why are multilayer coils wound? So that the wire fits into the required dimensions.

Rave...

An example of the effectiveness of a conventional inductor and a bifilar one in a mass accelerator.In a conventional inductor, only 1 pulse is used, the remaining oscillations are suppressed and used for heating. In a bifilar inductor, all vibrations are used and all the energy is used to create a unidirectional magnetic field.

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2024.05.25, 08:04:14
An example of the effectiveness of a conventional inductor and a bifilar one in a mass accelerator.In a conventional inductor, only 1 pulse is used, the remaining oscillations are suppressed and used for heating. In a bifilar inductor, all vibrations are used and all the energy is used to create a unidirectional magnetic field.

Where are you measuring to get such an oscillogram? on the coil? on a capacitor?

How can you get 5kW from resonance after 2 seconds? giving 9V ? or even 12V? This seems abnormal. I understand that this is how it's supposed to work, but it's just abstract.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.05.25, 09:44:18
Where are you measuring to get such an oscillogram? on the coil? on a capacitor?

How can you get 5kW from resonance after 2 seconds? giving 9V ? or even 12V? This seems abnormal. I understand that this is how it's supposed to work, but it's just abstract.

This does not fit into the minds of 99% of people.
Another 0.99% believe that this is possible.
And only 0.01% tries to repeat it correctly!
The reason is a unique method, not known to scientists, since they think in patterns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRqNtHiF5PE

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2024.05.25, 10:20:30
This does not fit into the minds of 99% of people.
Another 0.99% believe that this is possible.
And only 0.01% tries to repeat it correctly!
The reason is a unique method, not known to scientists, since they think in patterns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRqNtHiF5PE

I know this experience from school. Is this how you catch electricity?   :D ;)

Video with a bifilar inductor. I don't really like to post shots that aren't my own, but here it's described and shown in more detail than ever.
It is interesting that on small bends of such an inductor, the wire from which it is made begins to heat up.
The video is in Russian, but it seems like the captions should be in any language.... YouTube has advanced in translation technology)))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGLYKKYiCPU

https://youtu.be/Cs8bIzA7Ns0 (https://youtu.be/Cs8bIzA7Ns0)
It was caught by me today. Maybe it will be interesting anyone. :)

Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2024.05.28, 03:57:20
https://youtu.be/Cs8bIzA7Ns0 (https://youtu.be/Cs8bIzA7Ns0)
It was caught by me today. Maybe it will be interesting anyone. :)

The programs show miracles.

I was not the first to allow bifilar in the inductor  :o

Has anyone on this site achieved, at a minimum, Unity?

-JA

Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2024.05.29, 19:35:38
I was not the first to allow bifilar in the inductor  :o

A bifilar coil is still a coil, only with a magnetic field increased by the capacitance.
The pancake type is just another form of the same thing. Is the magnetic field larger in relation to the input current? NO. What else can you do with it? only its design gives it some possibilities, like an induction cooker, which is very good.

A biflar is an inductively compensated coil. Do you think it's so easy to compensate for it at 0?!
I have already developed a formula for calculating my coils, I use them to the fullest in my devices!
A simple example of how I use a bifilar coil not to generate energy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKyqQOX9A-w

The system is powered, so the non-inductive coil still consumes current.

Does anyone know of a ready-made amplifier that can be easily bought, such as Aliexpress, eBay, etc., that can amplify a cheap frequency generator?
The frequency generator ranges from 0 to 150 kHz. and has sine, square, and triangle waveforms.
The amp has to be at least 5 watts, preferably more.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.06.07, 01:08:49
Does anyone know of a ready-made amplifier that can be easily bought, such as Aliexpress, eBay, etc., that can amplify a cheap frequency generator?
The frequency generator ranges from 0 to 150 kHz. and has sine, square, and triangle waveforms.
The amp has to be at least 5 watts, preferably more.

https://pl.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-dds-signal-amplifier.html

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.06.07, 01:08:49
Does anyone know of a ready-made amplifier that can be easily bought, such as Aliexpress, eBay, etc., that can amplify a cheap frequency generator?
The frequency generator ranges from 0 to 150 kHz. and has sine, square, and triangle waveforms.
The amp has to be at least 5 watts, preferably more.

Hello Aking.21!
Probably something like Feeltech FPA301 will do:

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-FPA301.html

or this:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806655620461.html

But the description on aliexpress says some nonsense. Read here about:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/whats-inside-a-feeltech-fpa-301-better-than-juntek-dpa-2698/

QuoteFeeltech FPA-301 power spec is clearly off. Even taking peak values of 1A and 14V peak one does not get 20 W.

.. but 10W will also be enough

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.06.07, 01:08:49
Does anyone know of a ready-made amplifier that can be easily bought, such as Aliexpress, eBay, etc., that can amplify a cheap frequency generator?
The frequency generator ranges from 0 to 150 kHz. and has sine, square, and triangle waveforms.
The amp has to be at least 5 watts, preferably more.

Make your own with a choke,  N channel mosfet and a LC filter (coil and capacitor @ the frequency you want. Just drive the gate with what you have.

Class E amp.

You will not do it any cheaper.

Regards

Mike

Quote from: Centraflow on 2024.06.07, 16:22:13
Make your own with a choke,  N channel mosfet and a LC filter (coil and capacitor @ the frequency you want. Just drive the gate with what you have.

Class E amp.

You will not do it any cheaper.

Regards

Mike

Thanks, Mike,
The problem is that I will be searching for resonance in another coil system with a load attached, so I need a broadband amp.
Let us say I have an L2 coil with a 10-watt load attached. I want to use a frequency generator to search  L1, for resonance.
I am not sure how this can work without spending a lot of money on a high-power frequency generator.
If I were to limit my sweep from say 50Hz to 20 kHz, would an off-the-shelf mono audio amp do the job?

Regards, H

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.06.08, 00:05:34
Thanks, Mike,
The problem is that I will be searching for resonance in another coil system with a load attached, so I need a broadband amp.
Let us say I have an L2 coil with a 10-watt load attached. I want to use a frequency generator to search  L1, for resonance.
I am not sure how this can work without spending a lot of money on a high-power frequency generator.
If I were to limit my sweep from say 50Hz to 20 kHz, would an off-the-shelf mono audio amp do the job?

Regards, H

I use the "ping" method.

Think of a bell, if we hit the bell it will ring at whatever it's true resonant frequency is. The only requirement is that the duration of the "hit" be smaller than the resonant frequency.

So we attach our DSO across whatever it is we want to measure, send in a short duration single impulse and then listen for the oscillations. As well, we can use only one wire to send the impulse if the voltage is higher. We can also receive the oscillations with one wire on our DSO if the ground probe is attached to an Earth ground.

I seldom mess around with a DMM or DSO any more and use passive electrometer and magnetometer arrays. It follows the notion that better tools often yield better results. So I started building my own tools to do what I want them to do. For example, we could have a large magnetic field in a coil core however a coil is only influenced by the change in magnetic field. The total field could be large and used in something like a solenoid motor however we would never know this if were only measuring the field change involved in inducing a coil. So it's important to think outside the box when building and measuring things.

AC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtuQyu28Ws4

Kapanadze talks about himself and the whole story.
In the settings you can translate subtitles into English.

Question regarding the 2004 device.

Does anyone know what type of transformer this is? Appears to be a stepdown to 12 volt? Curious what others have found. Since he is using a toggle switch, I assume a lower voltage is being used to switch off power feed to the two transistors.

(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170243&authkey=%21AHTiWbyd9MVBLT0&width=583&height=361)

-JA

Quote from: Jose Antonio on 2024.06.26, 00:21:32
Question regarding the 2004 device.

Does anyone know what type of transformer this is? Appears to be a stepdown to 12 volt? Curious what others have found. Since he is using a toggle switch, I assume a lower voltage is being used to switch off power feed to the two transistors.

(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170243&authkey=%21AHTiWbyd9MVBLT0&width=583&height=361)

-JA

Hello By the logic of their first videos , that trasnsformer is a step-down transformer to juice the battery charger of their inverter and to feedback the oscillatiion circuit .

Quote from: Jose Antonio on 2024.06.26, 00:21:32
Question regarding the 2004 device.

Does anyone know what type of transformer this is? Appears to be a stepdown to 12 volt? Curious what others have found. Since he is using a toggle switch, I assume a lower voltage is being used to switch off power feed to the two transistors.

(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170243&authkey=%21AHTiWbyd9MVBLT0&width=583&height=361)

-JA

Hello!
Some suggested that this was a transformer from a Soviet microwave. But upon detailed study of photographs of such a transformer, it becomes clear that this is not true.

Some kind of transformer. The diodes in the rectifier cannot be high voltage. I assume the voltage is 12 - 24 volts or so. The current strength is up to 1 ampere in this embodiment.

What raises questions:

Two wires come from the 220 volt input voltage contacts of the transformer, which go into the jar.
They cannot transmit 5 kilowatts because they are thin and there is no place to get 5 kilowatts from. The converter can only create 400 watts maximum.

Presumably there is a secret part in the jar that is powered by alternating voltage. And this part sets the output frequency to 50 Hz, because the low voltage goes to the rectifier and smoothing by capacitors, and loses frequency. There's a key detail in the jar that we don't see. I assume that this is some kind of vibrator or pump that operates from an electromagnet and creates pulsations at the required frequency of 50 Hz from input voltage, since the device does not have a master oscillator.

Also strange in this video is the howling sound from the installation when Kapanadze turns off the feedback. At this moment, the lamps burn unstably for a second and go out. It seems that the device can work independently by inertia for some time, while emitting a low-frequency sound.
Kapanadze discusses this with his scientist friend, who says that this effect needs to be studied.

It can be assumed that this coil can work like a natural heart, which maintains its cycles by being powered by the pumped through it blood.

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on 2024.06.29, 11:47:55

Hello By the logic of their first videos , that trasnsformer is a step-down transformer to juice the battery charger of their inverter and to feedback the oscillatiion circuit .

No, for feedback it uses another transformer with a rectifier, in a black box. See attached pictures from the video.

 sergh: Kapanadze says: entry and exit are the same. The output is two phases and 220V, so the current from the 220V inverter is the same output current, which suggests that this current is amplified.
We don't know how this happens because there are different opinions that have been discussed by many people for years.

Feedback is possible as the patent suggests. I have a drawing of the diagram when Kapanadze showed it before the patent was published. I don't know if it's real, but it has only one important thing: it shows the amplifier. However, the description shows that it is a high-voltage amplifier. It is quite interesting to understand that this amplifier 8,9 is also a resonator between the two coils.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsOvQ4G76SM

Conversation between Ukrainian guy and Gia
Gia: Hello
Ukrainian guy: Hi
Gia: These two photos, I already have eight pairs of them. So, there are two Georgian words here: Tskeba  and Tskhebi. Tskeba means "a row" (Note: they are referring to the "Boot schematics")
Ukrainian guy: What? What does it mean?
Gia: Row. Or "in a row", that's it.
Ukrainian guy: Ah, Tskheba, yes, I see.
Gia: Yes, that's it. There's nothing else here and I'm showing it to Tariel for the eighth time. He says he's  never drawn or written this. He doesn't write in Russian at all. He can actually write in Russian and knows  Russian well, he would have written what he wanted in Russian, or in Georgian.
Ukrainian guy: So, the thing is, you know, it's just an association. They took a dirty piece of paper. Well,  they think, since it's from Georgia, it must be dirty. They drew something on it and started throwing it on  the internet. But why would someone do this? That's the question.
Gia: And the second photo, I don't know who's doing this, it's driving me crazy. My friend Alexander sent  me a link to this forum, if you know him, he's also from Ukraine.
Ukrainian guy: Alexander? Can you tell me what his nickname is on the forum?
Gia: I don't know. He said that some Oleg is writing things like... it's impossible, it's a new scam, very  illiterate etc and Tariel is very offended by this. Because, he says, it's impossible to light a light bulb  without grounding. You can light up one fluorescent light, maybe, by bringing it to the coil, but you can't have 5 kilowatts without grounding.
Ukrainian guy: A fluorescent lamp, it lights up even without grounding. It's just the gas that gets excited in  it, and you have light, that's all.
Gia: Yes, but it says here that "in my devices, the grounding was used, which was quickly destroyed due to  the process taking place in the soil, around the rod" (Note: as I recall Tesla wrote this somewhere). What  was destroyed? Destroy an iron pipe that's stuck in the ground, can you imagine it? What kind of process  can happen in the soil?
Ukrainian guy: Let's just say, it won't rot in a month, and it won't rot in a year - that's for sure. Even if you  take the live/phase from the outlet and take neutral from the ground... In any case, it will last at least a  couple of years.
Gia: Well, we calculated the lifetime of the spark gap, and probably this spark gap will last for 5 years. It  can be replaced afterwards and that's it.
Ukrainian guy: Well, I see.
Gia: Now the electronic version is ready on a spark that will not spark so directly, iron on iron, and it will  probably last, they said, 40 times longer, which means 200 years.
Ukrainian guy: What I wanted to ask... so it's already possible to do it without a spark, as I understand it?
Gia: Well, the electronic version didn't spark like it can be seen now. Wouldn't that be an electronic  version?
Ukrainian guy: Well, the last thing I did was on a GU-50 vacuum tube. I hooked it up as a triode. Well  everything is lit up inside the lamp, but it works without a spark at least. Well, again, there is no effect as  such. Someone said to measure it with those clamp meters. Well, I did that, for example, on my spark gap,  let's just say, it showed 500+ amps or something. And did the same on the transformer as well, like they  demonstrate it there. Well, if you know the working principle of these clamp meters, then it becomes clear  what they're measuring and why it shows such high values. 
Gia: Well, yes, they just know how to take that power from the coil, and nothing else is hidden there. I sent  you a circuit diagram, and it appears to be the diagram of the green box's internals.
Ukrainian guy: Well, yes, the internals...
Gia: Yes but if you see, there are numbers written on the parts there and these numbers are usually erased.  As parts are bought, if they have a label on them, they all get erased. That means this diagram is also fake. I  don't know, someone's trying to ruin it. Like SR (Note: SpaceReason, the member of an old Russian forum 
who gained fame for his OU device demo), a scammer, damn it, who did it with ferrites and dragged  everyone along. Why the hell would you use a ferrite? It kills the magnetic field. And if there is a ferrite,  you would need so much energy to... I don't know what else he wrote there, "a dead field" I think. I read  about the dead field, that sounds funny...
Ukrainian guy: Well, you see, we lost half a year because of SR. Everyone got into ferrites. They hit them,  smashed them, and tried everything with them. It was very cool. They made metal cores and much, much  more. If you saw on the forum and watched what's happening, what people are posting there, it's probably only one-tenth of what people are doing. I just know some people in Kyiv and I communicate directly with  them and I know what they are doing, I know what I am doing, and I know, for example, what people from  other countries are doing. Since we communicate with them via Skype.
Gia: On all the forums I've seen, people mostly just write about it. Out of 100 people, maybe 6 actually do  the work and make coils. The rest have probably never even held a wire in their hands.
Ukrainian guy: That's right, that's what happens. But the fact is, I'm talking about those 6-10 people who  are actually doing the work. They really, really try their best. Their whole apartment is littered with these  coils. And they make them so beautifully, it's like it's all done in a factory, everything turns out very  beautifully. And now I'm doing the last of these things, I'm already making it on a stand, so that it's pretty and quite convenient to measure things there. That is, nice visual mock-ups. Those who actually build these  things have redone a colossal number of experiments, and now they're practically sitting in despair. These  are adults, and you know, some of them are almost in tears. They've been working and working, coming up  with their own theories, and building things according to those theories. It seems like it should work, but it's  still a zero - nothing.
And those who write all these different theories, they're just armchair theorists who have never soldered or  measured anything in their lives. They start writing things that are completely unknown. And then you try  to tell them that it's already been tested or done, but they don't listen. They say you didn't do it right, or you  missed something. I tell them, "Go build it yourself and then we'll talk."
Gia: They have different theories, but I know the diagram I sent you is a Tesla transformer. They actually
build them, wind the coils – I saw it myself. I don't understand it all, but I saw how they do it. No magnets,  no iron pieces. Just a plastic pipe, looks like a sewer pipe, and they wind the coil on it.
Ukrainian guy: But I heard he also uses some kind of bifilar coil. Is that another internet hoax? Gia: ... bifilar
Ukrainian guy: What are you saying?
Gia: It's drawn there in the diagram I sent you. There's a primary circuit and a secondary circuit. The  secondary is the bifilar coil. I don't really understand it myself.
Ukrainian guy: Well, the picture you sent doesn't look like a bifilar coil. It looks like a regular secondary  coil...
Gia: Yes, I know. So it's supposed to be a bifilar coil. They make a bifilar and I think it's counter-wound or  what is it called?
Ukrainian guy: Counter-wound, yes. They say it supposedly catches scalar fields or something. But I've  been experimenting with this bifilar coil recently. I've tried it in different ways and at different angles. And  I made one classic coil, you know, with a single wire, and then this bifilar one...
Gia: You just need to wind it correctly and use the right cable length. And the cable itself has to be the right  kind. It's all done according to a formula. It's not just random. It all depends on what kind of primary coil  you have. The primary coil is the exciter.
Ukrainian guy: Well, my primary had 6 turns.
Gia: Well, there weren't many turns, 5-6 is a small difference, it just needs to be stretched out, so that it  encompasses the entire secondary coil, from beginning to end.
Ukrainian guy: So, not when you stretch it out completely into a straight line, but rather when the wound 6  turns are stretched out so that it reaches from one edge to the other.
Gia: Yes, like this. The spacing between the turns should be large. Like you have it, first you wind the  bifilar coil, then you wind the primary coil on top of it. And then it should be a quarter of something. I don't  know, they say some confusing things, and I don't understand it.
Ukrainian guy: I read Tesla's writings once, and he was always calculating 1/4 of something too. I tried to  do that 1/4 calculation, but not sure what to calculate it from...
Gia: Of the primary circuit, I think.
Ukrainian guy: So, if you calculate 1/4 of the primary circuit... I checked the primary circuit on an  oscilloscope, it resonates somewhere at a frequency of 5 MHz. Then the secondary... although I didn't  measure on a bifilar coil, as it turns out, I measured it on the regular one, but the frequency no the  secondary is much lower, for example. And how do we match them together? No matter what you do, they  don't fit into one-fourth. I'll have to sit down again, of course, and puzzle over it. The only thing I tried was  to feed the primary, then feed another transformer from the secondary and take the power off of that. And  with the help of ferrites, by inserting them inside, moving them back and forth and fixing at the maximum  brightness of the light bulb, I achieved a characteristic there that is, roughly speaking, close to unity of  energy transfer from one transformer to another. That's basically it. Anyway, I'll try at my leisure, the
weekend is approaching. But as I already wrote to you...
Gia: There's no philosophy there. No ferrites. I watched SR's video, he has something under it, stators or  something else... Something is there. There shouldn't be such a spark. It's not a spark, it's an arc. It doesn't  break. A spark should be 50 hertz, 50 clicks per second. It should break when you pause the frames, should  not be continuous.
Ukrainian guy: When do you pause what?
Gia: When I was filming, if you watch any of our films, when they focus on the spark, if you pause the  frames, the spark is not visible at all. And when I paused SR's video, there you see an arc, it doesn't break - 25 frames per second and it doesn't break at all. It's pink in color and it would probably burn out in 10  minutes.
Ukrainian guy: What burns out, the light bulb? Or the spark gap?
Gia: The spark gap itself. Because he says that the ferrite should excite it. There should be a lot of energy  going in there to excite the ferrite. I mean to saturate the ferrite, you need a lot of energy. It's like a magnet,  it sucks everything into itself.
Ukrainian guy: Yeah but up to a certain consistency, for example.
Gia: Can you imagine how much power you have to put into it to make those 150 watts light up and still  have it self-sustaining? Then he has some capacitors there. He probably charged those capacitors, and they  weren't switched off. Then he discharged them somehow. And we never connect the two cables together  like he did. If we applied the input there, it would cause a short circuit!
Ukrainian guy: Look, I completely replicated what he showed. I have the diagram and the wiring... and so  on. We even tried to run an old flyback transformer at minimum power to see how long it would last. It  couldn't even make a relay switch, not enough power to do that for even a second. And if the flyback  transformer is working, then you also need transistors, an emitter follower, for it to start up and consume  power. He claims that only two processes working together can produce this result, but that's nonsense.  Nothing works in his setup. The only thing those capacitors can do is close the relay, and his wire is  probably connected to something hidden, like under the table. That's it. That's how it "worked" for him. It's  all a beautiful fake. Knowing him from before, we used to talk, and he likes to brag. If he had something  real, he wouldn't have gone silent so abruptly. He would have posted another video or something. But now,  no matter how much I write to him, he just says it's not interesting, it doesn't work, he's given up, etc. The  truth is, he has nothing, and why build a more powerful device if it's just another fake?
Gia: He banned me. He banned me from his forum. I wrote that he is a scammer and there is nothing  Kapanadze-like there.
Ukrainian guy: Hey, I have a question, I'm just curious. There's this rumor going around on the forums,  you know, that oil companies threaten people like us and so on. Is there any truth to that?
Gia: Did you read my angry post there?
Ukrainian guy: What are you saying?
Gia: You probably read my angry post there? I even wrote my mobile phone number there.
Ukrainian guy: No, no, no. I didn't read it. I mean generally... Everyone says that if a person suddenly  invents something like this, or something else, then he will immediately have problems with the authorities  and oil companies and so on.
Gia: There are a lot of problems, not only with our government. Yes, it's true, but it was written there that  they were already killed and turned into sausage meat. Not sure, I can't reply to every forum, I just don't  have time. I get 150 emails a day, sometimes even 200.
Ukrainian guy: I can imagine. But look, there's no pressure on you from anyone, right? Or is there?
Gia: There's no direct pressure like that. There's something, but not like people think. They might stop you  at customs for an hour and 20 minutes, search for something, search everything and ask questions.
Ukrainian guy: So, there are no threats, like "don't go anywhere, don't tell anyone" etc.? No threats to your  family, right? So, our authorities are basically interested in it?
Gia: Hello? The cord came loose.
Ukrainian guy: As you were saying, customs didn't let it through.
Gia: It happens there sometimes. Stuff like meters, things that you carry along, clamp meters etc... When  we crossed the border, unnecessary questions arose, they stopped us, searched everything, I don't know  what they were looking for, they went all out. We even had this happen, the president was there. They  turned off the entire city's electricity when he arrived, our Prime Minister Zhvania was still alive then too...  They turned off the whole city, came with flashlights, with their security, and the President Saakashvili held  the device in his hands.
Ukrainian guy: So this happened recently? Because I heard that your power station recently broke down  and there was no electricity throughout the entire country. Or was it a long time ago?
Gia: No, it was back in 2004 when he saw it. But I don't know, he had no reaction. They told us they earn a  lot from electricity. They sell us a kilowatt for 10 cents.
Ukrainian guy: Wow, it's quite expensive for you. It will cost the same for us soon. I see. So, what are  your plans in general?
Gia: I don't know, we're currently negotiating with many countries. We want to start mass production soon.
Ukrainian guy: And how much will it cost approximately? It's probably not something you can buy right  away, right?
Gia: I don't know, it probably depends on the price of the parts and in which country it will be made. It would not be the same in every country... In our country, it's very difficult to get parts. Some have to be  ordered. So it's expensive here. If you assemble it individually, it will be very expensive.
Ukrainian guy: Very much so. Well, it's expensive where you are. But for us, in fact, I've checked In Kyiv  specifically and prices are much cheaper than in Russia or Europe. For example, if we compare ferrite  pieces, they cost 5 euros each, for instance, while here they're around 60 cents. Yes, that's quite a  difference. For example, if I need parts now, I'll just hop on a bus to the radio parts market and buy them.  But they have to order them...
Gia: The parts you buy at the radio parts market don't last very long. You've probably seen that green box.
There's a radiator and a cooler in there because it's made with cheap parts. They scraped together pennies to  make what they could. They get hot. But I've seen transistors that can withstand 200 degrees and don't  require a radiator and cooling.
Ukrainian guy: No, there are some like that. It's clear that there are different types of parts for different  purposes. I'm just giving you an example with ferrites, for instance, with the same magnetic permeability,  from the same manufacturer, and there's such a difference in price. Plus, I can go and buy them right away,  while people order them online because they don't have any electronics markets or stores where they can  buy them, and they wait for weeks. And in Russia, for example, you can only buy them in Moscow. In all  the other stores, there's nothing. And the prices are also much higher than ours, at least three times more.
Gia: Well, that's for home use. If you're building it for home or just for show, you can probably buy them at  the radio parts market but when you're building for mass production, you must give people a warranty...
Ukrainian guy: No, that's understandable.
Gia: and if I buy from the radio parts market, no one will give me a warranty. Warranties are given by  companies.
Ukrainian guy: The radio parts market is like... Maybe you don't quite imagine what it looks like. It's not  like a place where everything is scattered on the ground, and they sell all sorts of parts. There are also  brand-name stores from specific manufacturers, where everything is neatly arranged on a store display. All  kinds of electronic components, from the cheapest to the most expensive. You choose what you need and  make something out of it. There are specialized stores, some only for microchips, all kinds of them. Others  only for capacitors and some only for LEDs. There's a reason for that. The selection is very impressive. You  can choose practically any component. Very rarely, you deal with some rare microchips, for example, if one  burned out in a mobile phone or somewhere else, you can order it, and it will arrive by the next weekend.  But mostly everything is already available, transistors and everything else, from different manufacturers,  with different technical characteristics. There's also a specific marking system. Some have certain  tolerances, others have different ones, for different purposes. But to get them even cheaper, you have to  order from China.
Gia: No, just not China. I'd rather pay $5 more and buy something decent. I bought $15,000 worth of goods  from them and had to send it all back. I won't buy anything from them again. They're junk dealers. I  understand it's cheap, but the quality is bad. Half of it didn't work at all. And I even had to pay for the return  shipping.
Ukrainian guy: Yes, that's interesting. In principle, China is not all the same. There's the China that mass produces, and there's the China that works under licenses. In any case, there are practically no factories left  in Europe, and the same goes for America. They've all moved their production to China.
Gia: Yes, I know, but they have certificates. They check for quality certificates.
Ukrainian guy: Well, yes. Their machines are their own development, plus they meet some "GOST" standard, so the price is different.
Gia: Well, yes, the difference can be even bigger, but the quality is better. It's good quality, so there's a  warranty. There's a warranty between me and the parts. They always ask, "How long will it last?" How am I  supposed to know? I didn't manufacture these parts. I wind the coil. The coil will last a long time. But as for  the parts, I don't know.
Ukrainian guy: And what's the longest you've tested it? How long did it run? Was there such a test?
Gia: Yes. We had it running for months. Then our power company forced us to pay a fine and said we were  stealing electricity. The fine wasn't very big, only $300. We said we had turned off the device, there was no  light. We turned it on, there was light. We said we were running from the device. They said no - open up  the device and we'll look inside. I said, "No way." Then pay the fine! They made us pay the fine.
Ukrainian guy: That's how it is everywhere. If someone uses it, they'll get fined. Though you could cut the  wires right up to their power plant so they can't get to you. But they'll still come up with some kind of fine.
Gia: If you release 10 devices and sell 10,000 units, then maybe... But if you sell 100,000 units, maybe you  won't get fined anymore.
Ukrainian guy: Maybe. But the thing is, they'll come up with something. Because you can imagine what  kind of cash cow you're cutting off for them. They collect small amounts from everyone. I once calculated  how much goes into the budget from everything, and if you see what's happening in Ukraine, they  constantly complain that there's no money, no budget. Just do some simple math. How many houses are  there in a village? Every house in the village pays a minimum, even if you don't use anything, just the house  and a piece of land, your own, privatized. You still pay at least 15 hryvnias, which is 2 dollars. And there  are millions of such houses, for example. And that's every month. Calculate it, 2 dollars multiplied by  millions. That's just the houses, the poorest old people are already bringing in tens of millions a month - every month! And then there's the transportation tax, all the other taxes, electricity, gas, and everything else.  It adds up to a colossal amount of money.
Gia: That doesn't go into the budget. It goes into their pockets.
Ukrainian guy: That's exactly the point, it goes into their pockets. And of course, then what's left isn't  enough for them. And they'll introduce a law, you know, like, whoever uses such a device still has to pay  some symbolic fee. That's it. You'll be independent in the sense that they'll never cut you off, you know. Like in the villages now the winter period will start and villagers will just start howling. Because  somewhere snow fell, wires broke, there's no electricity or something else happens. And it's like that  constantly in winter. So, for example, here you'll be insured against this phenomenon, but they'll extort  some pennies from you, I think, thanks to some kind of law.
Gia: Yeah, the government doesn't have enough... Our government is really bothering us in the country,  specifically bothering us. And the Russian government even bothers them abroad - their arms are longer.  And in Georgia, paying 10 cents for electricity is very expensive. Because we don't have that kind of  economy yet. Then we have 3 hydroelectric power plants on every river and we have about two thousand  rivers, I think.
Ukrainian guy: But the thing is, I also don't understand why they are raising the price of electricity for us.  We have quite a lot of our own power plants too. And it's enough for current consumption. Like, the rivers  are flowing as they always have. Why raise the price? But still, they doubled it and that's it.
Gia: We have floods every year. Not just rivers flowing... Even twice a year. Every summer and every  autumn. Flooding just from the rains. So they don't just flow, they flow very strongly.
Ukrainian guy: Well here you go. So, you could say, it's also free electricity. You set it up, the rivers push  your turbines, roughly speaking. They turn the blades and that's it. Minimal costs, only for construction.  Everything else is free. It's an open system. You get everything from nature. Why raise the price so much?  The thing is, if you think about it, since our independence, not a single new power plant has been built. At  least, not in our country. So, we got everything for free, from the Soviet times. So the question is, why raise  the price if you haven't invested a penny in all of this? I think you understand what I'm saying. And the  same thing with these roads...
Gia: We added a hell of a lot more hydroelectric power plants. But they still raise the prices. They built a  lot. After the communists, they built even more. And under communism, only Enguri hydroelectric power  station was built, it produces 200 MW. It's really big. And our total population is 3 million. I understand,  Ukraine is big, like 50 million. Russia is even bigger, 150 million. We have 3 million people in total, and  we produce enough electricity to power Russia! They sell it all and put the money in their pockets.
Ukrainian guy: The main thing is that you can't change anything, no matter how much you want to.  Actually, I've been thinking about why this is happening. And if you look, these rulers, their roots go back  to the Crusades, to those kings and so on. Power hasn't changed hands since the very beginning. They just  technically did a castling move. The fathers left, their children or some grandchildren took over. It was all  passed down the chain, and now it's come out into the open. There was never any real change of power. If there were such changes, like with the king, it was all a facade for the people. So that the people would  think they mattered, that they were participating in something, and so on. Because for a regular person, like  you or me, what are the chances of getting there? Maybe if you go to jail twice, then maybe the chances  increase.
Gia: Yes.
Ukrainian guy: So who knows. You probably have a ton of people there now after posting Skype. Gia: Yes, another 20 people joined.
Ukrainian guy: Yeah, that's fun. And everyone wants something, right? Everyone wants the schematics  and so on.
Gia: Yes, some just ask questions.
Ukrainian guy: Are there any people who have come close? Or are we all crawling in the wrong field?
Gia: Melnichenko came very close, but then for some reason veered off into magnets, I don't know. Some  people even wrote that we're buying some kind of patent from him. Sometimes we can't even find money  for food, let alone buy a patent! Not sure...
Ukrainian guy: So I talked to Melnichenko once, not too long ago, actually, last month. He said that he  met Kapanadze in Ukraine, in Kyiv, by the way, that they were drinking with him and he needed  something, that he signed some kind of agreement with you, which he won't talk about right now. That's  what he told me.
Gia: We met Melnichenko exactly a week ago. I only sent him an email. Tariel has never seen him and has  never spoken to him on the phone.
Ukrainian guy: I can actually look for it, I still have the email, I can show you what he wrote, if you're  interested.
Gia: I also shared with you what he wrote to me in an email. I was curious about who he talked to and  when. He wrote that he talked to Mevlud Ediseshvili, the scammer and swindler who we haven't been  friends with for 4 years.
Ukrainian guy: Here, I'll show you now. I'm curious to refresh my memory.
Gia: I stumbled upon his file on the internet by accident.
Ukrainian guy: Well, his email is melnichenko1968@gmail.com, right? And the phone number is 8 910  430 83 48, Andrei. Now check this, it's his text (Note: he's sharing some text with Gia)
Gia (reading aloud): "... with his first major investor... I know about my principle, I discovered it". Ok, now let me show you his email.
Ukrainian guy: So, he's quite a storyteller, I gather. Here's another one. Well, he seems like a normal guy, why act like that...
Gia: Ok, here it is. I found his email. Here's my question. Here's his answer.
Ukrainian guy: Let me see. "3/09 Tariel Kapanadze writes: Dear Andrey, I'm just getting used to this form  of communication with you... And finally... we met in Kyiv"
Yes, but listen, what's the point of him doing this, you know, like performing something like this?
Gia: Well, I don't know. What can I say, I don't know. I wrote to him that if the conversation is about  Mevlud Ediselashvili, I can say that stay away from this swindler and one more thing – that I never spoke to  you on the phone, so he probably set up this scam himself. Also, nice to meet you – I said. Then he writes  back - "I understand, thank you." And then - "What did he do to you that was bad?"
Ukrainian guy: That same guy, Ediselashvili?
Gia: Yes, Mevlud Ediselashvili. He's a real scammer. He took 200 thousand euros from the Turks and left  us there as hostages so to speak.
Ukrainian guy: And what happened with the Turks?
Gia: They wanted to steal the schematic.
Ukrainian guy: Look, in that 100 kW device from the Turks, I see one Tesla transformer, which is a classic  one, and the second one isn't quite classic. So, it seems that the first Tesla transformer, which is sparking,  feeds into the second Tesla transformer, which is, well, let's just say it's also a Tesla transformer. So, are  you using it as a replacement for a flyback transformer to achieve a higher voltage? Or are you not aware of  this design?
Gia: That shouldn't be there, in my opinion, in the 100-kilowatt one...
Ukrainian guy: What shouldn't be there?
Gia: There shouldn't be a spark there.
Ukrainian guy: You mean the big one?
Gia: In the 100-kilowatt one, there's no spark, I think.
Ukrainian guy: Well... The three-phase 100 kW one that's all around the internet, it shows a big spark. Gia: And there's an arc rising from bottom to top?
Ukrainian guy: Well, it shoots from the top to the bottom of one coil.
Gia: Oh, no, that's not a spark. I'll tell you what it is. They should be connected by a wire. We cut the wire,
well, because the Turks were messing with us, saying there was no energy there. Then we cut the wire and  showed that there was energy flowing. So these wires should be connected. They shouldn't be sparking at  each other, ideally. Did I say that correctly?
Ukrainian guy: Well, theoretically, yes. So, it seems that... I still don't quite understand what this is. It  looks like some kind of Tesla-like energy transmission using a single wire.
Gia: Well, yes, those coils should be connected by a wire. We cut the wire because they were trying to trick  us, claiming that it wasn't working and asking where we were getting the energy from. Then they made us  go to some island 50 kilometers from the mainland, in the Mediterranean Sea. On that deserted, uninhabited  island, we started it up, and the device ran for four hours.
Ukrainian guy: And they couldn't steal the schematic after all?
Gia: No, they couldn't, that's why they're furious now. They call every day.
Ukrainian guy: I can imagine. If they saw it working with their own eyes and didn't get their hands on it,  it's easy to understand their frustration.
Gia: And we lived, you know, somewhere in Izmir, right by the Aegean Sea. Tariel asked them, "There are  no islands in the Aegean Sea?" They said, "There are." "Then why are you taking me to the Mediterranean  Sea? This already raises suspicion", Tariel said, "If we don't go, then they'll say we're scammers". We went 
there, made a 10 kWt, three-phase device. Even a notary came. He said, "I'm not a physicist." We even  showed him the internals of the device, we opened it up for him. He looked in there to make sure there  wasn't a hidden battery.
Ukrainian guy: Interesting, of course.
Gia: Yes, well, they believed it in the end, but...
Ukrainian guy: And what stopped them? They didn't want to buy it or what? What exactly stopped them?
Gia: The agreement was that they had to pay a 100 million and the patent would be theirs, that is, they said  it would belong only to them. Well, Tariel agreed, and they didn't pay, so the contract is, so to speak,  broken between us. We just need to confirm it in court. And it's written in our contract that we operate  under Swiss law. So we have to file a lawsuit in Switzerland. So we'll go there, file a lawsuit, and I don't  know how long it will take, a year, or two. That's why we can't touch the electrical version anymore until  the trial is over. We're only doing hydromechanical ones now.
Ukrainian guy: Yes, that's a serious setback.
Gia: Well, yes, if we win the lawsuit, then they have to pay us a fine of 20 million euros because they tried  to steal from us. That's also written in the contract.
Ukrainian guy: Well, 20 million isn't bad either, you could live the rest of your life without denying  yourself anything.
Gia: If they don't pay, we just need to get this bureaucratic... you know...
Ukrainian guy: I understand, finish all these documentary processes. Look, you mentioned hydro, it's like  hydro-dynamic, right?
Gia: Yes, it's on YouTube.
Ukrainian guy: It's that big thing like a compressor, and so on, right?
Gia: The 25-kilowatt one.
Ukrainian guy: And is the principle the same as the original one, or is it different? Gia: It's a little different, but it's based on a Tesla principle that spins a 25-kilowatt generator.
Ukrainian guy: Right. So, theoretically, the hydraulic version is bigger. Oh, and another question: Your  patent is international, right?
Gia: No, only Turkish. We suspended the international one.
Ukrainian guy: And how much did the international one cost, if it's not a secret?
Gia: It's not a patent there, it's... we're not patenting the device itself right now, we're patenting the know how. The device contains all that stuff from Tesla, like coils and everything. What we're patenting is the  know-how of how it works.
Ukrainian guy: No, I understand. I mean whether it's expensive in general or not. I'm just curious to know. Gia: Not really, in my opinion, it's not very expensive.
Ukrainian guy: I also have a couple of ideas that I'd like to patent. Okay, I won't distract you anymore,  because there are probably people knocking and knocking, also wanting to get some answers. So anyway,  thank you, at least I got some answers to my questions. Say hello to Kapanadze. I don't know what to tell  him, but if a person could...
Gia: Everything is based on the schematic I sent you.
Ukrainian guy: Well, I can tell you, the schematic is, so to speak, ordinary, classic, but as I already wrote,  if a person was able to figure something out in it and make it work like this, then I'm speechless...
Gia: Yes, yes, this is not classical physics, and there's no need to look at it through the lens of classical  physics, it's not the same thing at all. They've already made me a physicist, but I'm a programmer by  profession (laughs), because I've answered so many questions that...
Ukrainian guy: ...You've started to figure it out yourself, I see...
Gia: Tariel will probably come online this evening, after 7 pm our time, and the admin said he wants to talk  to him.
Ukrainian guy: I understand. Okay, what time is it for you now?
Gia: It's 10 minutes past four for us.
Ukrainian guy: Ah, so it's an hour difference. So, will you ever do a conference call? Gia: Well, I don't know, it's possible, I guess. If not everyone asks questions at the same time.
Ukrainian guy: Of course, one by one. The thing is, I think everyone is probably asking the same questions  over and over, and to avoid that, you could organize a conference call. One person, for example, the admin,
would ask the questions, and we would listen. And then there would be far fewer questions, for example. At  least they wouldn't be asking the same questions repeatedly. Okay, in any case, it was nice to meet you. So  if you decide to do a conference call, write to me. If I have any questions, I'll write too.
Gia: I'll also post on the forum now that we'll do a conference call so everyone can hear. Ukrainian guy: Good, good. I'll be waiting. Good luck and all the best. See you later.

Why is GIA silent ? A few months ago he showed off the device and quickly deleted the video. I saw it and it was nothing interesting. He showed that this device amplifies current. Unfortunately, he didn't show what's inside the box. Nowadays, you can make wonderful boxes... e.g. a power bank. works great. Hahaha.

What does GIA know that it won't say and why?

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.06.30, 07:33:02
Why is GIA silent ? A few months ago he showed off the device and quickly deleted the video. I saw it and it was nothing interesting. He showed that this device amplifies current. Unfortunately, he didn't show what's inside the box. Nowadays, you can make wonderful boxes... e.g. a power bank. works great. Hahaha.

What does GIA know that it won't say and why?

Can you provide a link, please?

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2024.06.30, 14:16:10
Can you provide a link, please?

the videos were deleted.

QuoteDoes anyone know what type of transformer this is? Appears to be a stepdown to 12 volt? Curious what others have found. Since he is using a toggle switch, I assume a lower voltage is being used to switch off power feed to the two transistors.

The transformer in question is probably used to isolate the HV circuit from the LV circuit as an isolation transformer.

Anyone who works with HV circuits knows the energy can travel over one wire effecting other parts of the circuit. For example, I once built a 500kV Tesla coil and mixed up the Earth ground (green wire) and 120v neutral connection (white wire). The moment I fired it up the HV traveled down the white wire and arced over to the hot wire (black) at the outlet. There was a large flash at the 120V outlet, lots of smoke and it melted the plastic outlet cover.

As well anyone who has tried to loop the output back to the input understands the many problems associated with "ground loops".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_loop_(electricity)

QuoteIn an electrical system, a ground loop or earth loop occurs when two points of a circuit are intended to have the same ground reference potential but instead have a different potential between them

Many people say why not just loop the output back to the input which shows a complete lack of understanding of all the technical difficulties involved. Even if we could work around all the ground loops we would still have to deal with the HV. It's just very difficult and an isolation transformer is an easy solution.

AC

Quote from: sergh on 2024.06.29, 13:54:03
Hello!
Some suggested that this was a transformer from a Soviet microwave. But upon detailed study of photographs of such a transformer, it becomes clear that this is not true.

I took a better look at it, and it surely does look like a stepdown, and based on an internet search, it does resemble a transformer from a welding machine. The large secondary cables can be identified in the below picture, and that is exactly what we would see in a welding transformer.

(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170264&authkey=%21AHGFg5YgtCLpg_o&width=1166&height=592)

Welding Transformer
(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170275&authkey=%21AFC1snDPdhvJ8X8&width=500&height=500)

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.06.29, 16:17:10
sergh: Kapanadze says: entry and exit are the same. The output is two phases and 220V, so the current from the 220V inverter is the same output current, which suggests that this current is amplified.
We don't know how this happens because there are different opinions that have been discussed by many people for years.

This is interesting to read because I have suspected that the Barbosa and Leal (B&L) device is the same as Tariel's device. In the Barbosa and Leal device, the input phase is wired to the output. So, the Entry is the same as the Exit. That has been stated numerous times and verified with the partial unit that was dismantled. I have suspected that there is no difference between Clemente Figuera, Tariel, and B&L. I have a thread on Open Source Energy called Clemente Figuera: A layman assimilation through analysis and discovery. That is my working thread. https://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3666.0  (https://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3666.0)


Going Back to the Small Transformer

What is strange is that you don't see where the secondary is wired, and I am inclined to believe it is not wired (traditionally) to anything directly. However, a part of me is saying that the small spark is passing through the secondary of that transformer on the grounds that you can see the metal wire of the spark-gap device passing along the backside of the machine. I don't see the spark-gap as being a traditional spark gap as we have seen in many devices such as Tesla's. This spark-gap appears to be created indirectly, or in other words, it is the product of a specific function, and no part of it contains the original energy that supported the process that created it. In the video, Tariel states that the spark-gap is interrupted at 50hz, and if energy is being inputted into the secondary side of the transformer that is being driven by an AC signal then I think he would be right, correct? Wouldn't the spark-gap be interrupted at 180 and 360 degrees if being driven by an AC transformer?

Another observation is that there is a green, fairly thick wire that comes out of the can. This wire is seen nowhere else on the device, and in other angles it appears to possibly feed the larger copper coil. This is interesting, and on color alone, I would say this is the energy absorbed/pumped from the Ground, B&L call it Capturing Electrons (Captor).
(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170274&authkey=%21AIt8ZEMTBJH7Di4&width=645&height=511)

The Orange with Blue tape coil is doing nothing. I suspect it is there to capture your imagination into thinking about something else. It gives the impression that this is a Tesla device when in fact it is a Figuera device. Coincidently, there is an independent orange cable that is the output, (see below pic) along with the white cable. They both come out of the top of the can to feed the load. I say it is independent because the orange wire that comes out of the can and the one that is feeding the load is solid copper by way it holds its shape. The cable around the coil with the blue tape appears more flexible and must be stranded not solid.
(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170277&authkey=%21AA7qM4OsaYwE8FY&width=627&height=508)


The Tin Can

We don't know what is in the tin can but we can postulate that it needs to be hidden because its construction is so simple that not hiding it would immediately reveal the secret to even the most novice of experimenters. What makes it simple to understand is that there is most-likely not too many components involved. Keeping in mind that Figuera already pulled this trick off well before bi-filler coils were a "Thing" and before vacuum tubes. So, in the tin can, we should be able to deduce that there are only coil(s), capacitor(s), and maybe a resistor(s).  Figuera used a Ruhmkorff coil and it is well noted in his patent. In that tin can, I believe we would also find a small HV/HF transformer that is connected to capacitors for the purpose of drawing electrons from the ground cable.

The below description was taken from the original B&L website that was taken down over 10 years ago.

Quote
Earth energy is an energy originated from the earth together with the electromagnetic field generated in the captor,natural energy that we can obtain instantly to perform work, using the electromagnetic force for attraction and repulsion of charged electric particles.
The access to this new source of energy occurs through the grounding loop that passes, through attraction and repulsion, particles of positive and negative charge to the electron scavengers.

Based on above B&L description it appears they are using electromagnetic energy to pull electrons to a plate of a capacitor and then move them to the next step. Unknown to many, in the B&L device we only see the output unit, and that is the one that has the thick cable that they show with the meter clamped. The energy collection module has never been seen in pictures but in one older article from 2012 I recall reading how they connect the Captor to it.
The toggle switch is interesting, and I am assuming it is used to shut off the low voltage that drives the HV coil. The way they handle the switch assures us that the can is well grounded and there is no fear of getting shocked. 


Transistors

There appears to be two transistors that are wired with very thin cable, looks like 22AWG (American Wire Gauge) mounted on radiators but I can't see the wire that is driving them. Not sure of the purpose but such a thin wire wouldn't be utilized to transmit power directly. This may be the biggest mystery, but I am leaning toward the idea that the transistors are being used to drive the HV/HF coil. But would you need two? and would the wiring we see make sense?


Gia

I think this guy is a fraud and is purposely misleading people. Surely, they got paid some dollars to keep quiet, just like B&L and Figuera. The reason he showed a video a few months ago was to shake the money tree. Just imagine, if the secret gets out, he and his partners become irrelevant, and they lose a huge bargaining chip. Nothing he says about the device is real.
(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170278&authkey=%21AB0aOfORs-UQQoU&width=1512&height=41)

-JA

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2024.06.30, 15:20:22
The transformer in question is probably used to isolate the HV circuit from the LV circuit as an isolation transformer.

I would be more inclined to believe that if I saw the same heavy copper leads on the input because iso transformers are 1:1.

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2024.06.30, 15:20:22
As well anyone who has tried to loop the output back to the input understands the many problems associated with "ground loops".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_loop_(electricity)
Many people say why not just loop the output back to the input which shows a complete lack of understanding of all the technical difficulties involved. Even if we could work around all the ground loops we would still have to deal with the HV. It's just very difficult and an isolation transformer is an easy solution.

AC

Looping back an AC output to an AC input would not be a good method at all. In these devices I don't see the HV being on the Tesla Coil scale. Actually, I don't even see these devices as being anything that Tesla built. If HV is being used it is at a very low level to drive a specific process to create separation.

-JA

Quote from: Jose Antonio on 2024.07.01, 01:35:45
The energy collection module has never been seen in pictures but in one older article from 2012 I recall reading how they connect the Captor to it.

Everything was in metal box. What are you talking about ? Captor is a whole device, not one small part. After opening the device, something marked as a spark gap was noticed. This is the only way to see current at GND. You can also fool a clamp meter this way. I did this many times, checking what causes AMP to appear on GND to ground. Unfortunately, this is not a real current but an electrostatic field. It is very possible that this is needed to produce the strengthening effect.
B&L were in big trouble as I read and one of them got many years in prison. Currently I knew some new patents but they have nothing to do with CAPTOR. Why don't they continue this? Because it doesn't work? Was it a fraud? Is it because it works?
Until someone repeats Kapanadze's or B&L's device, we won't know the answer.
Figuera - I also tried it until I came to the conclusion that it is simply a mechanism for creating a sine wave from DC and not an FE device! Everyone sees what they want to see.

The ground wire is not as thick as in other devices, but it always passes through the center of the coil! Why ? this must be important.

Quote from: Jose Antonio on 2024.07.01, 01:35:45
I took a better look at it, and it surely does look like a stepdown, and based on an internet search, it does resemble a transformer from a welding machine. The large secondary cables can be identified in the below picture, and that is exactly what we would see in a welding transformer.

-JA

On the picture from the video, Kapanadze has an ordinary transformer on laminated transformer steel core.
Do you see the nuts in the corners of the transformer? These nuts are used to tighten the package of transformer plates through the bolts so that the transformer does not hum with a 50 Hz sound.
There are through holes in the transformer plates for these bolts.

Regular old-fashioned iron transformer at 220 V 50 Hz, power 100 - 200 watts. 1960 - 197s, USSR.

The rectifier diodes in the bridge are ancient with poor characteristics; they will heat up like an iron from 1 ampere without radiators.

two transistors on the radiators - it's not clear exactly which ones, they seem to be Czechoslovakian ancient ones from Soviet times.

Such transistors were unpopular among radio amateurs of the ex-USSR and were considered to have junk value.
Diodes are the same.
It seems that the creator of the device, Kapanadze, could not spend any money for components.
He could easily find such components at a factory dump or beg from radio amateurs for free.

The possible types of Czechoslovakian old transistors in Kapanadze device:

KD502
https://www.teslakatalog.cz/KD502.html

KD503
https://www.teslakatalog.cz/KD503.html


KU601
KU602
KU605
KU606
KU607
and another...:

https://www.teslakatalog.cz/tranzistor.php

Appreciate the response, I have a few comments below.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 06:51:09
Everything was in metal box. What are you talking about ? Captor is a whole device, not one small part. After opening the device, something marked as a spark gap was noticed. This is the only way to see current at GND.

That drawing you are referencing was completed by a poster on the now lost Overunity.com. That is not a Spark Gap, that was his symbol for the overload breaker that was mounted on the exterior of the metal box. Keep in mind, that metal box with the meters, overload and the thick looped cable sticking out was the Captor BUT not the energy capture device. The Captor is a single unit. The Energy Capture Device comes in two flavors, Air Source or Ground Source, and the Energy Capture Device gets connected to the Captor. Nilson Barbosa has a new patent that came out late last year. I wrote about that on another forum also, your free to contact him if your willing to do the research. EZ to get his info.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 06:51:09
You can also fool a clamp meter this way. I did this many times, checking what causes AMP to appear on GND to ground.

RF interference will impact the operation of meters. I believe we both agree on that.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 06:51:09
Unfortunately, this is not a real current but an electrostatic field.

How did you get to this conclusion?

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 06:51:09
It is very possible that this is needed to produce the strengthening effect.

What is the strengthening effect you are talking about? The only evidence we have from B&L and Tariel is an increase in amps based on their meter. An ammeter measures current, but now the question is What creates current? If the flow of electrons passing a specific point increases does current increase?

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 06:51:09
B&L were in big trouble as I read and one of them got many years in prison.

Internet propaganda.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 06:51:09
Why don't they continue this? Because it doesn't work? Was it a fraud? Is it because it works?

The device was officially labeled as DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY. That is an actual economic term, and was posted clearly on their site.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 06:51:09
Until someone repeats Kapanadze's or B&L's device, we won't know the answer.

That is the objective of these internet forums. Those that visit and post on these forums SHOULD be believers in the technology and should have no doubt that it can be completed. If that is not the belief of an individual on these forums then one must put into question that persons agenda.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 06:51:09
Figuera - I also tried it until I came to the conclusion that it is simply a mechanism for creating a sine wave from DC and not an FE device! Everyone sees what they want to see.

A patent is not a As-Built document or a set of plans to develop a functioning device, I am sure you are aware of this. If his patent was a direct build document, do you really think we would all be here? Figuera clearly states he used an induction coil in his design but on the drawings there is no induction coil shown. If you simple took the drawing at face value then you wasted a tremendous amount of time trying to build that because it is pretty obvious that something is missing. Besides, who is to say that maybe Figuera only showed how he created an AC output from the energy he collected?

-JA

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.01, 08:41:51
The ground wire is not as thick as in other devices, but it always passes through the center of the coil! Why ? this must be important.

I respectfully disagree. That is the narrative he wanted to project. Look at these two pictures, you can see that the wire does not pass through the center. Looks like he drilled a hole and passed the wire around back. Also the Turkish units don't have the cable running through any coil and those units have huge power.

Not the best image from this side, but it doesn't pass through.
(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170312&authkey=%21AKtXHVEUi5UA8Ys&width=452&height=495)

Best view is at 26.33 of the video.

(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170313&authkey=%21AFva4xNydCuV1ew&width=646&height=457)

-JA

Jose Antonio

QuoteI would be more inclined to believe that if I saw the same heavy copper leads on the input because iso transformers are 1:1.

An isolation transformer can be any 1:1, step up or step down transformer and it's purpose is to "isolate" two different circuits. Key word "conduction", with isolation we are trying to avoid an unwanted conduction loops in a circuit.

QuoteLooping back an AC output to an AC input would not be a good method at all. In these devices I don't see the HV being on the Tesla Coil scale. Actually, I don't even see these devices as being anything that Tesla built. If HV is being used it is at a very low level to drive a specific process to create separation.

The input to a transformer can be AC or pulsed DC with fair efficiency. As well the voltage doesn't have to be "Tesla Coil scale" because anything over 1000v wipes out 99% of most electronics. I was only using my Tesla coil as an extreme example of why isolation is important. We hear about people experimenting and blowing mosfets like there going out of style. This is because the gate is very sensitive to any high voltage and as I implied higher voltages anywhere in the circuit can creep back through the circuit ground and wipe them out.

This ain't my fist rodeo and I have decades of first hand HV experience. Here is a clue, the first sign we damaged a transistor or mosfet is that the switching gets sporadic and won't turn all the way on or off. The switch and any series resistors in the circuit start getting hot because it's not acting like a switch but more like a regulator. At this point you have about 2 seconds to pull the plug before you wipe out the component. Of course if you don't have a DSO or current meter and see the DC voltage creeping past the switch or installed zener diodes this means little.

QuoteI respectfully disagree. That is the narrative he wanted to project. Look at these two pictures, you can see that the wire does not pass through the center. Looks like he drilled a hole and passed the wire around back. Also the Turkish units don't have the cable running through any coil and those units have huge power. Not the best image from this side, but it doesn't pass through.

Indeed, if we want to wind a coil where the wire is prone to want to move or unwind the best option is to run it through a hole inside the former near the first and last turn. It's common sense and any builder who has actually built countless coils would know this. So if we try to glue or tape the first or last turn on the outside and it lets loose it starts unraveling and turns into a gong show. I do this with every coil former and it's only common sense.

Edit:
Added a picture of my former and why we run the conductor through the former.

AC

Why isn't Barbosa speaking out? After so many years, he certainly found what was written about him. Now he does other patents, but not about what he showed? Isn't that weird?
You try to side with him like a bad lawyer. I'll tell you what's wrong with all these people who only have these devices working for them.
Or else... I'm sure you'll understand.
Name any Tesla patent and you will see that it works. In fact, most of them are ready-made devices. What's wrong with this understanding? Nothing. Simply put, what Telsa did was real and nothing was fake. It's the difference. I understand that this is not enough to think correctly, but it shows something disturbing. How can you create a patent and hide the truth and then explain that it is the patent!? Everyone knows that it must be credible in court. Once, in Tesla's times, there were witnesses who certified with their reputation that all this was true. What counts now is deception and priority. How many stupid patents have you seen? Block diagrams, only descriptions of how something works but doesn't work, etc.

but back to the topic:
Spark gap? I don't know but this is another disinformation. Someone opens the device and does an analysis and shows a symbol that is not what it is? Exactly.
Assuming that it is a spark gap, I agree that it fits in this place because only through it the current will appear on GND/Ground.

-The electrostatic field always causes interference on sensitive electronic components that are not insulated. Measuring clamps are not insulated unless they are HV clamps. They are like this.

-The current creates the movement of the magnetic field.

-The descriptions on their website are for the customer.

-You don't believe in technology! it either works or it doesn't but I know what you're thinking.

-Figuera: It's the same problem. It is possible that we are all wrong and we want to see what we see and read. Meanwhile, maybe that's not the point. If you see a copper cable, you immediately look for electricity in it, but you know that it can fulfill hundreds of other functions.

-Kapanadze and the wire inside: ok, I won't argue about something that is, again, just a guess. I'm just looking for a relationship. Many people also saw an iron pipe, an aluminum pipe with or without a cut, and many other concepts. I have been dealing with this for several years and almost everything has already been done.

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Many forums have been closed. Now overunity.com
Do you know why? Because no one has a working device. NOTHING!

Quote from: Jose Antonio on 2024.07.01, 23:57:15
Nilson Barbosa has a new patent that came out late last year. I wrote about that on another forum also, your free to contact him if your willing to do the research. EZ to get his info.

-JA

I can not find the patent. Do you have a link please?

maxmalone

QuoteMany forums have been closed. Now overunity.com
Do you know why? Because no one has a working device. NOTHING!

I like to use the neurosurgeon analogy. There are over 8 billion people on the planet but only 50,000 neurosurgeons, why do you suppose that is?. The fact is 99.99% of people have neither the intelligence, skill or determination to become a neurosurgeon that's why. Only the best and brightest who are willing to dedicate there life to the art get to become a neurosurgeon. So it's important to understand our own limitations...

AC

Quote from: Jose Antonio on 2024.07.02, 00:16:29
I respectfully disagree. That is the narrative he wanted to project. Look at these two pictures, you can see that the wire does not pass through the center. Looks like he drilled a hole and passed the wire around back. Also the Turkish units don't have the cable running through any coil and those units have huge power.

Not the best image from this side, but it doesn't pass through.
(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170312&authkey=%21AKtXHVEUi5UA8Ys&width=452&height=495)

Best view is at 26.33 of the video.

(https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=FEFE881C2332C157%2170313&authkey=%21AFva4xNydCuV1ew&width=646&height=457)

-JA

Why doesn't anyone consider the possibility that the yellow wire soldered into the lid of the jar may not be a wire?
A thin tube, such as is used in the thermostats of an ordinary refrigerator, may look like this.
Often these tubes have a plastic protective coating on them, much like the insulation on an electrical wire.


Here is another interesting point that no one paid attention to.
Please watch this fragment from the video, sound is required, time period 00:31 - 00:33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMBai8O3x1E

Such strange little things make you believe that the device really works.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.07.04, 10:01:14
Why doesn't anyone consider the possibility that the yellow wire soldered into the lid of the jar may not be a wire?
A thin tube, such as is used in the thermostats of an ordinary refrigerator, may look like this.
Often these tubes have a plastic protective coating on them, much like the insulation on an electrical wire.


Here is another interesting point that no one paid attention to.
Please watch this fragment from the video, sound is required, time period 00:31 - 00:33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMBai8O3x1E

Such strange little things make you believe that the device really works.

Anything else you think...?
This has all been discussed before.

So what next, with a thin tube? Where is this discussion? Why, when the device is turned off, do 5,000-watt lamps continue to glow for 1.5 seconds at the same brightness, while the device makes a strange sound?

Why is there no sound when the device is running under heavy load? Any electronics engineer will tell you that the opposite usually happens.

The whole discussion is reset to the trivial topic of spark and coil. With the addition of Tesla's mystical potion.

Where is the extraordinary creative thinking?

Just for an example of the principle of generating low frequency electricity:

https://youtu.be/uh1RnD_yuYo?t=1611

Quote from: sergh on 2024.07.04, 13:55:52
So what next, with a thin tube? Where is this discussion? Why, when the device is turned off, do 5,000-watt lamps continue to glow for 1.5 seconds at the same brightness, while the device makes a strange sound?

Why is there no sound when the device is running under heavy load? Any electronics engineer will tell you that the opposite usually happens.

The whole discussion is reset to the trivial topic of spark and coil. With the addition of Tesla's mystical potion.

Where is the extraordinary creative thinking?

Just for an example of the principle of generating low frequency electricity:

https://youtu.be/uh1RnD_yuYo?t=1611

Gas tubes have been discussed before. What kind of gas could it be and why? There are magnetic gases. No one has discovered anything related to this yet.
The sound was analyzed and corresponds to what Kapanadze said about frequencies. The principle of operation cannot be understood based on sound alone. The sound is probably coming from a coil or metal box. Probably not from the inverter. When Kapanadze unplugs the device, he is surprised at what sound it makes. He says it needs to be investigated.

The sound is 10,7,10 pulses. approx. 35Hz with 380Hz fill

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.04, 14:17:57
When Kapanadze unplugs the device, he is surprised at what sound it makes. He says it needs to be investigated.

The sound is 10,7,10 pulses. approx. 35Hz with 380Hz fill

When Kapanadze unplugs the device from the inverter 220V 50 Hz, he is surprised at what sound it makes.
this means the bobbin ( not "coil", but "bobbin", as in Kapanadze Patents ) is getting out of control.
The generator loses synchronization with a frequency of 50 Hz.
The voltage 220 V 50 Hz comes from the input terminals of the transformer, in fact from an external inverter.

A generator with 2 transistors can continue to operate using the energy of capacitors that are connected after the rectifier. But this is subject to very low current consumption by this circuit. The capacitors do not look like they have a large capacitance.

Okay, let's analyze further.
If the capacitors powered the circuit for 1 second after switching off, then the voltage across them would decrease linearly with time. The 5 kilowatt lamps would gradually go out.

But what do we see? The lamps glow normally for 1 - 1.5 seconds and then go out abruptly.
This is weird. Are these transistors needed at all? Or was this circuit on two transistors soldered together just to fool observers? To point the finger at the spark and refer to Nikola Tesla?

This leads to the idea that the Kapanadze bobbin is a self-sufficient generator. When current 27 Ampere passes from hidden source to load through the bobbin wire, it creates internal in bobbin a magnetic field that affects the hidden elements in the bobbin. For example, if there are magnets inside the bobbin, "from a magnetic separator", as Kapanadze said, then the field of the coil can compress or push them apart, depending on how the magnets are located and the coil is wound.
In this case, the current from the elements inside the coil is interrupted, the magnetic field of the coil disappears, and the elements begin to generate current again. So on the cycle.
Since we observe a very low frequency, about 50 Hz, the nature of this resonance is not electrical.
Another. Mechanical, electrochemical, etc.

Power from the inverter is probably only needed for the initial start-up and synchronization of the generator bobbin at 50 Hz.
If so, it becomes clear why the electronic part is so simple and weak.
Because Kapanadze's generator does not need an electronic circuit!
Kapanadze is not an electronics expert because his generators don't need that. We see how in the aquarium he sketched completely meaningless boards from the trash, with wire harnesses cut off and not connected anywhere, boards from old tube TVs, the terminals of vacuum tubes are filled with hot-melt glue that does not melt from the heat, etc..
This was all done to create for non-professional observers the appearance of a complex device that has a high price.

What remains? We see a bobbin, which is a pulsed current source. AC battery controlled by voltage pulses.
What kind of technology is inside? Chemical, electrochemical, liquid, gas, vacuum?
The main question is does the Kapanadze generator use any consumables? Does such a generator need fuel?
There is no clear answer yet.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.07.05, 07:19:18
When Kapanadze unplugs the device from the inverter 220V 50 Hz, he is surprised at what sound it makes.
this means the bobbin ( not "coil", but "bobbin", as in Kapanadze Patents ) is getting out of control.
The generator loses synchronization with a frequency of 50 Hz.
The voltage 220 V 50 Hz comes from the input terminals of the transformer, in fact from an external inverter.

A generator with 2 transistors can continue to operate using the energy of capacitors that are connected after the rectifier. But this is subject to very low current consumption by this circuit. The capacitors do not look like they have a large capacitance.

Okay, let's analyze further.
If the capacitors powered the circuit for 1 second after switching off, then the voltage across them would decrease linearly with time. The 5 kilowatt lamps would gradually go out.

But what do we see? The lamps glow normally for 1 - 1.5 seconds and then go out abruptly.
This is weird. Are these transistors needed at all? Or was this circuit on two transistors soldered together just to fool observers? To point the finger at the spark and refer to Nikola Tesla?

This leads to the idea that the Kapanadze bobbin is a self-sufficient generator. When current 27 Ampere passes from hidden source to load through the bobbin wire, it creates internal in bobbin a magnetic field that affects the hidden elements in the bobbin. For example, if there are magnets inside the bobbin, "from a magnetic separator", as Kapanadze said, then the field of the coil can compress or push them apart, depending on how the magnets are located and the coil is wound.
In this case, the current from the elements inside the coil is interrupted, the magnetic field of the coil disappears, and the elements begin to generate current again. So on the cycle.
Since we observe a very low frequency, about 50 Hz, the nature of this resonance is not electrical.
Another. Mechanical, electrochemical, etc.

Power from the inverter is probably only needed for the initial start-up and synchronization of the generator bobbin at 50 Hz.
If so, it becomes clear why the electronic part is so simple and weak.
Because Kapanadze's generator does not need an electronic circuit!
Kapanadze is not an electronics expert because his generators don't need that. We see how in the aquarium he sketched completely meaningless boards from the trash, with wire harnesses cut off and not connected anywhere, boards from old tube TVs, the terminals of vacuum tubes are filled with hot-melt glue that does not melt from the heat, etc..
This was all done to create for non-professional observers the appearance of a complex device that has a high price.

What remains? We see a bobbin, which is a pulsed current source. AC battery controlled by voltage pulses.
What kind of technology is inside? Chemical, electrochemical, liquid, gas, vacuum?
The main question is does the Kapanadze generator use any consumables? Does such a generator need fuel?
There is no clear answer yet.

If you play the sound very loudly and listen to the moment of switching on, then apart from sounds at the end you will hear the characteristic sound of switching off. Crash. Just like a relay. Note that up to this point the lamps are lit normally, as you have noticed. This is how Kapanadze describes this action in the patent and it is consistent with what we see. Unfortunately this is a loose fit. There is no such resonance that is free. Each resonance accumulates energy like a capacitor, so it cannot be explained by resonance. If we have a free source for resonance, it's ok, but it's like saying I have electricity from the wind. These are words generally said for those who know what it means. What the wind really does and the equipment needed for it.
Kapanadze apparently became terribly worried after the video was made public. He shouted that now everyone will do it to themselves. So what is so difficult about the fact that no one can find this simple answer? how it's working.
Many people also analyzed the magnets inside. The humming sound after turning it off corresponds to what you hear. This is just one possibility.
I did various tests with magnets and coils inside and never saw any gain. I found that the magnet is the same blind spot when it is not moving. It's not understandable at first, but when you think a few more times you will understand that when you act on the mages, it acts on you, and when you want it to stop, it stops too. Squeezing the magnetic field of a magnet will do nothing. Think more about this. If that were the case, two magnets would be your generator. A coil with a magnet is even worse because you first have to create a magnetic field in the coil and only then use it.
Maybe there is a way but we haven't figured it out yet.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2024.07.05, 08:04:07
I did various tests with magnets and coils inside and never saw any gain. I found that the magnet is the same blind spot when it is not moving. It's not understandable at first, but when you think a few more times you will understand that when you act on the mages, it acts on you, and when you want it to stop, it stops too. Squeezing the magnetic field of a magnet will do nothing.

Yes, that's right, squeezing or pushing the magnets apart won't do anything if you don't have "fuel". Just like in a car engine.

What is "fuel" in the context of Kapanadze's generator?
It's not clear yet exactly. Let's focus on the abstract something. Hypotheses:
There are 2 options:

1. Energy cell.
Something like element CR2032 or much thinner. When compressed, the element generates a current pulse and squeezes out the consumed fuel; when stretched, it sucks fuel from the fuel line.
The cells are installed inside the fuel line as spacers between disk magnets.
The "fuel" is not consumed, but is regenerated in the energy cell when a current pulse is created. The "fuel" circulates in a closed cycle.
Many energy cells are used in series.
The time lag of the process provides the required frequency.

2. Mechanical magnetic generator.
From the starting current pulse in the bobbin, the magnets compress the "fuel" to a critical state, after which the "fuel" burns and pushes the magnets apart, generating a current that passes through the bobbin and compresses the magnets again.
The magnets are located in the fuel line, at the inlet and outlet of which valves are installed. Thus, the bobbin core independently pumps fuel during operation. The "fuel" can be regenerated during the "combustion" process.

In both options, the wires on the bobbin can be wound with two combined coils, as they like "bifilar".
Each coil can have one row of turns in the bobbin, which can alternate. This may be necessary to interact with individual magnets mounted at opposite poles. The core may contain combinations of magnets and iron washers.

If anyone is interested in the simplest circuits of decorative spark generator using two ancient transistors, similar to those used in Kapanadze's video:
https://cxem.net/house/1-263.php
https://shopshoker.ru/stati/shema-elektroshokera
https://radioskot.ru/publ/bp/ehlektroshoker/7-1-0-267
https://forum.cxem.net/uploads/post-9667-1155102865.gif
please use Google translator or etc.

Quote from: sergh on 2024.07.05, 08:55:54
Yes, that's right, squeezing or pushing the magnets apart won't do anything if you don't have "fuel". Just like in a car engine.

What is "fuel" in the context of Kapanadze's generator?
It's not clear yet exactly. Let's focus on the abstract something. Hypotheses:
There are 2 options:

1. Energy cell.
Something like element CR2032 or much thinner. When compressed, the element generates a current pulse and squeezes out the consumed fuel; when stretched, it sucks fuel from the fuel line.
The cells are installed inside the fuel line as spacers between disk magnets.
The "fuel" is not consumed, but is regenerated in the energy cell when a current pulse is created. The "fuel" circulates in a closed cycle.
Many energy cells are used in series.
The time lag of the process provides the required frequency.

2. Mechanical magnetic generator.
From the starting current pulse in the bobbin, the magnets compress the "fuel" to a critical state, after which the "fuel" burns and pushes the magnets apart, generating a current that passes through the bobbin and compresses the magnets again.
The magnets are located in the fuel line, at the inlet and outlet of which valves are installed. Thus, the bobbin core independently pumps fuel during operation. The "fuel" can be regenerated during the "combustion" process.

In both options, the wires on the bobbin can be wound with two combined coils, as they like "bifilar".
Each coil can have one row of turns in the bobbin, which can alternate. This may be necessary to interact with individual magnets mounted at opposite poles. The core may contain combinations of magnets and iron washers.

If anyone is interested in the simplest circuits of decorative spark generator using two ancient transistors, similar to those used in Kapanadze's video:
https://cxem.net/house/1-263.php
https://shopshoker.ru/stati/shema-elektroshokera
https://radioskot.ru/publ/bp/ehlektroshoker/7-1-0-267
https://forum.cxem.net/uploads/post-9667-1155102865.gif
please use Google translator or etc.

I don't know a method that regenerates fuel and burns fuel. In my fantasies this is acceptable.
I understand that you mean fuel as a magnetic field of permanent magnets?
This is the only possibility that comes to my mind. Another is electrostatics and the transfer of charges from one place to another.
If it were possible to produce only + plus charges, we would already have FE. Unfortunately, in order to get only + pluses, you have to divide the loads and this is called work.

Most people only look where they see. But the world is big and varied.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streetlight_effect

All Kapanadze devices can only exist on the same principle.

Analyze whether it is possible to build all Kapanadze's devices, including hydraulic and gravitational ones, based on what is more convenient for you to talk about.