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Author Topic: Kapanadze replication  (Read 256101 times)
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video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4HCPrB-KB0&t=1306s
Between 10:47 and 11:46 they hook up a series of lamps to the box, they light up then go out, then they light up and stay on.
Tariel connected the 9V battery, the lights went on/off because he didn't have a good contact on the battery.  This
box is not looped and requires a constant connection to the 9V battery to output current.  Between 9:00 and 10:46 Tariel connects the battery, the toroid is supplied with current and it spins at a high speed.  He disconnects the battery, the other guy checks for voltage on the connections to the toroid, LOL there is nothing without the 9V battery connected, LOL.
Tariel unhooks the wires going to the toroid and connects wires to the lamps.  A flywheel stores a lot of energy and this device has 2 flywheels.  They are most likely very heavy.  Once its spinning fast it could turn the generator to power a series of lights for a short time.  Also it would take a long time to run down.  Sometimes he doesn't have a good connection to the 9V battery so it spins a little, then when he has a good connection, the flywheels spin fast, followed by the noise.  Is it a con job ? yes and no, the box is real, is the toroid fake or real I have mixed feelings on that, this was to lure in investors and appeal to their greed and get money from them.
   
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Hey, people!

If it were that simple and it was obvious that this was a scam, I wouldn't bother you and myself with such a lengthy discussion. There are thousands of other "over-unity" devices and simple perpetual motion machines online, and their scams are obvious.

Dear Sergh.
Im sorry but all I see is an elaborate hoax…. Most importantly when the load is applied there is zero reaction to the apparatus in either speed or sound. This suggests the load was being fed from an alternate source.
Dear Grumage,
    how do you imagine a 20 kW 380 V synchronous generator reacting to a load? It shouldn't slow down, otherwise the output won't be 50 Hz.
This synchronous generator weighs over 300 kilograms; there's a reason for that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternator

I've observed 50 kW standalone diesel generators. When a load is applied, nothing happens, only the diesel engine emits a little more smoke. And I doubt the generator part in such standalone generators weighs 300 kg.

Well, if Kapanadze's generator had an exhaust pipe, maybe someone would have noticed.

Although there's a hole in the lower metal box, which looks like the base of the device, that the public sometimes looks at.
Maybe something comes out of there.
The time in this video when the hole is visible is 52:52.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhdKD7ABygM

I'm attaching Kapanadze's original hydraulic diagram, the one he verbally confirmed his authorship of long ago.
And also a hydraulic diagram, where I've compared the supposed parts in the video with the published diagram.

Kapanadze hydraulic diagram
Kapanadze hydraulic circuit
« Last Edit: 2026-02-02, 13:10:59 by sergh »
   

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He disconnects the battery, the other guy checks for voltage on the connections to the toroid, LOL there is nothing without the 9V battery connected, LOL.
The meter also reads close to zero when the 9V is connected and the saw-like sound occurs.  See the time index 20:48.

Tariel unhooks the wires going to the toroid and connects wires to the lamps. 
Look again, the wires that are unhooked are not the ones that are connected to the toroid.

The silver box has the following conductors coming out of it ( see 16:41 ):
1) White thin 2 wire cable intermittently connected to the 9V battery.
2) White thin 2 wires connected to a red light between the silver box and the 1st pillow block pillar.
3) Dark 2 thin wires connected to the toroid.
4) Black thick cable:
    a) sometimes connected to the field winding of the 20kW generator.
    b) sometimes connected to the bank of light bulbs.
    c) sometimes connected only to the multimeter.
    d) sometimes disconnected

Between 9:00 and 10:46 Tariel connects the battery, the toroid is supplied with current and it spins at a high speed.
The toroid does not spin.
The shaft accelerates and spins when the 9V battery is connected and the saw-like sound occurs.  The meter connected to the toroid reads close to zero when this happens ( see 20:55 ).

What accelerates the shaft ?
   

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I have not noticed this ramp-down. All I noticed was a very long spin-down of the shaft as it was free-wheeling (e.g.: after this time).
At what time have you noticed it ?

P.S.
Please post proper links to a particular video time index so users do not have to ff/seek the video manually and guess which video the index refers to.

Dear Verpies.
My apologies…..
At around the 31 minute mark the device is shut down and you will notice the two wheels slow down quite rapidly and lock to a halt.

Regards Graham.


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At around the 31 minute mark the device is shut down and you will notice the two wheels slow down quite rapidly and lock to a halt.
Impossible - the video I quoted is only 23min long.

Perhaps you are referring to the 10:37 time index ?
If "yes" then look again and see that the mustached guy in the horizontally striped shirt forcefully stops the machine with his hand (see the red arrow).
   

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Impossible - the video I quoted is only 23min long.

Perhaps you are referring to the 10:37 time index ?
If "yes" then look again and see that the mustached guy in the horizontally striped shirt forcefully stops the machine with his hand (see the red arrow).

Not, if you were viewing the same video that I was. He said in a Pythonesque way…. 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edtwky19ydo

Try this one please?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edtwky19ydo
Try this one please?
A link ! - that's progress ...albeit without a time index and that video is now deleted :(
Anyway, according to the Internet archive, that video contained the same take as what I have quoted and screenshoted here.

So look at it again and see that the mustached guy in the horizontally striped shirt forcefully stops the machine with his hand (see the red arrow).

   
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At around the 31 minute mark the device is shut down and you will notice the two wheels slow down quite rapidly and lock to a halt.


The same video, but not deleted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhdKD7ABygM

I believe starting at 30:04, they show the device in operation without the 20 kW 380 V generator. The large generator is mechanically disconnected. There's no drive belt on the pulley.

The flywheels, and likely the hydraulics hidden underneath, are spun by a hidden small starter hydraulic pump. The hydraulic pump is driven by a hidden 1 kW electric motor.
The electric motor is driven by a "GreenBox" generator hidden in the upper metal box, from which wires connected to the wires from lower one.

Then at 31:12 the wire from the upper metal box is disconnected by Kapanadze from the wire from the lower metal box. The flywheels stop without any power at 31:45.

Then, light bulbs are connected to the wires from the upper metal box, which contains the "GreenBox" starter generator, and they glow.

The "GreenBox" starter generator generates a certain amount of electricity independently of the main 20 kW generator.

 - seems logical and corresponds to the hypothetical model of this Kapanadze device, given above.
« Last Edit: 2026-02-02, 13:27:40 by sergh »
   

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edtwky19ydo
A link ! - that's progress ...albeit without a time index and that video is now deleted :(
Anyway, according to the Internet archive, that video contained the same take as what I have quoted and screenshoted here.

So look at it again and see that the mustached guy in the horizontally striped shirt forcefully stops the machine with his hand (see the red arrow).



Oi…. Show a little respect to your brain dead, oops damaged elders.


Nope, that video is alive and well on my iPad. However, let’s try again.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhdKD7ABygM

At around 10:32 TK gives a stop command via the wires. You should notice that the assembly starts slowing down much more rapidly than would be expected for such a mass. It also comes to a dead stop.


Regards Graham.



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Nope, that video is alive and well on my iPad.
Cached on your device only.  Try another.

However, let’s try again.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhdKD7ABygM
At around 10:32 TK gives a stop command via the wires. You should notice that the assembly starts slowing down much more rapidly than would be expected for such a mass.
That is a different video take from the previously quoted one (which had no foam on the disks).
In this video the shaft accelerates from 10:43 to 11:22 and decelerates to a full stop from 11:22 to 13:11 (and the shaft does not rotate backwards even one degree after it stops - meaning: no tension, no back pressure).

Is a ~2min spin-down feasible with a hydraulic motor full of hydraulic fluid and the windage of that foam glued to the disks ?
   

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Words are words, whether written or spoken but they’re not necessarily truthful….

Hydraulic pumps and motors make very distinctive sounds when in use. They also need to be connected to either rigid or flexible high pressure pipes or hoses. Nothing like this can be seen or heard for that matter. The saw like noise that Verpies describes is more reminiscent of an electric motor during initial start. My saw bench makes a very similar noise as the large diameter blade rings to the 50HZ frequency. Oh and let’s not forget that unmistakable Vee belt squeal in the slightly loose pulley either.

The Plummer blocks look highly suspicious to me and having given it some thought might well be a housing to cover a pulley or a sprocket. Our problem is that we think like engineers not magicians…. As an engineer we would support that shaft on sturdy bearings however for a short demonstration run that shaft could easily be running through a pair of washers! A little application of MoS2 would be enough to sustain a short run without failure.

We have also ascertained that the unit has some separate energy supply, do we know what value it is? AC or DC ? Voltage level? I’m sorry but IMHO there’s more Red Herrings than in a Fishmonger’s shop. I prefer Kippers by the way.

I have put this reply together separately, as since my brain damage I find it very difficult to work on the hoof, so to speak. I really think we should concentrate our efforts on subjects that might have at least some merit rather than chasing a nearly 20 year old enigma that has totally eluded any replication.

Cheers Graham.


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Verpies you are correct he disconnects the connection to the black cable,and connects the series of lights to that connection.The generator is not hooked up assuming its there to power a  field winding.The toroid is not disconnected so when he lights the lights it should turn the flywheels if that is what turns the
shaft.I am beginning to think that the black cable supplies power to a hidden
motor and that it is what really turns the shaft,the toroid does nothing
its a trick.The black cable is all ways hooked up when starting the flywheels
   
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Dear Sirs!

They explained everything mechanically, and then started all over again. It's like a "Groundhog Day" moment. It doesn't matter how something is connected, where the hose is hidden, or why the sound is different. The audio was recorded with an old video camera, which may not capture the true timbre and nuance of the sounds. It's clear that the sound is loud and harsh, especially under load on the generator, so it's impossible to hear what they're saying.

Won't it work according to this diagram, which Kapanadze himself 100% drew?:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4510.msg118346#msg118346

What if we imagine there's a "microdieseling effect"?

Won't it work according to this explanation from Kapanadze himself?:

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Tariel: Yes, in Georgian, with German subtitles.
Denis: I think they'll be streaming it in German over there. Let's see.
Gia: Well, the journalist asks questions in German, and a translator interprets.
Denis: If needed, Vazha can translate for me.
Tariel: Absolutely. Besides, there's nothing complex to translate. The generator is
visible. There's a hydraulic pump and a hydraulic motor that turns the generator. There's
a small electronic part; you start it with a 9v battery. It simply amplifies the power
because we had to make the motor work with a hydraulic pump and it produces a
kilowatt of power. A kilowatt motor is in place and that's how it turns the hydraulic pump.
Nowadays, getting a kilowatt is quite simple.
Denis: So, what role does the hydraulic pump play? I don't understand it at all.
Tariel: We are spinning the hydraulic pump.
Gia: And the hydraulic pump spins a 20 kilowatt generator.
Tariel: Does that make sense?
Denis: ok 1 Kilowatt motor...
Tariel: A huge pressure is created. There is a hydraulic pump of a different design, not a
standard one. This is also our own design. And so it’s turning a 20 kilowatt generator.

Gia: Three-phase one
Tariel: a big three-phase generator...
Denis: Well, how does a one kilowatt motor spin a 20 kWt generator?
Gia: Yeah, it does.
Tariel: A motor with a power of 1 kilowatt turns like crazy... We even managed to get
like...
Gia: 1500 rpm.
Tariel: It held 1500 rpm.

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=237.msg116184#msg116184

Will a gasoline-powered car engine run on any combustible gas, as shown in Kapanadze's video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhdKD7ABygM

On gas obtained from water in some way?

The simplest example is adding calcium carbide to water, which releases acetylene gas, a highly flammable gas. This was previously used in acetylene generators for gas welding or metal cutting. Even earlier, it was sometimes used in cars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_carbide

Knowing the mechanical or hydraulic circuit of the device won't help unless you understand the principle of where the additional energy comes from.
You can replicate this hydraulic system, but the device won't work.

We need to somehow figure out what physical, chemical, and quantum effects lead to the release of additional energy. Watch the beginning of that video: the energy source is gravity, and not in the Newtonian sense, but likely in the Einsteinian sense and further, in the quantum sense.


the toroid does nothing
its a trick.
The toroid is 99.9% a shaft rotation sensor, preventing the generator from running away.
« Last Edit: Today at 07:22:36 by sergh »
   

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I was thinking about the so-called micro-dieseling effect. Besides the highly flammable fuel, an oxidizer is also needed. Isn't it?   At least, air.
The hydraulic oil must contain oxygen and fuel that is insoluble in the oil. The first thing that came to mind was diethyl ether, but it mixes with oil in all proportions.
How can this principle be implemented ?
   

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I was thinking about the so-called micro-diesel effect. Besides the highly flammable fuel, an oxidizer is also needed. Isn't it?
...and it would also generate exhaust gasses.

This entire hydraulics narrative is based on the presence of four bolts and anecdotal quotes.  These videos do not look, nor sound nor behave like hydraulics nor Diesel initiated internal combustion.

@sergh
Your subject about micro-dieseling has been moved to its own topic.  Do not post anything about micro-dieseling in this thread anymore.
You can access the micro-dieseling topic at this link and discuss it there without restrictions.
   
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