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Re: collector « Reply #25 on: 2010-08-13, 14:18:08 »

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Regarding the FTPU and OTPU, it is doubtful there were any large batteries in these devices. Yet the OTPU windings got hot while in operation.

It would seem that energy is being absorbed from somewhere? and some of it was dissipated in the windings.

For this reason I have confined myself to what can be done with a small battery (say 9V or smaller) as a startup device to initiate some type of absorption of energy. This starter battery could have been hidden in either FTPU, OTPU or subsequent devices.

I have refrained from using large power sources as an initiator, because i don't see this happening in any of SM's devices. I was doing high power testing early on but have abandoned that for a more gentle approach to the problem.

It is logical that the small power source may have been used for some type of oscillator. It may also have been used for a high voltage step up circuit that contained an oscillator. Lastly it may have been used merely to create a DC bias. Any of these could be used to initiate a heretofore undiscovered process that absorbs the energy from somewhere? and releases it for utilization.

Considering the first possibility, the power source for a low power local oscillator as part of a Single Balanced Mixer that was set up with positive feedback loops for regeneration is a reasonable approach.

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Re: collector « Reply #26 on: 2010-08-13, 14:43:09 »

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Quote from: Peterae on 2010-08-12, 22:18:21

G I have a feeling it will work for me, the reason being that when the event occurs i get a tug on a neo magnet, if i bias the common mode choke using a magnet that is close coupled to two event coils i should be able to focus the event energy and try conversion, it is in effect causing a very similar thing to rotation but the movement is converted to linear motion within the legs.

At 4kv and about 30kHz rep rate, that "tug" gets pretty serious.

Rotation adds other things that only exists in rotating systems.

One might say we are building a model of a particle. They are perpetual too.

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Re: collector « Reply #27 on: 2010-08-13, 14:56:40 »

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Quote from: ION on 2010-08-13, 14:18:08

It is logical that the small power source may have been used for some type of oscillator. It may also have been used for a high voltage step up circuit that contained an oscillator. Lastly it may have been used merely to create a DC bias. Any of these could be used to initiate a heretofore undiscovered process that absorbs the energy from somewhere? and releases it for utilization.

Considering the first possibility, the power source for a low power local oscillator as part of a Single Balanced Mixer that was set up with positive feedback loops for regeneration is a reasonable approach.

exactly!

Kooler	Re: collector « Reply #28 on: 2026-01-18, 01:18:53 »
Newbie Posts: 34	old topic i know but how many turns per collector do you guys think i should start with...

Kooler	Re: collector « Reply #29 on: 2026-01-18, 03:05:25 »
Newbie Posts: 34	is that metal or magnet wire that i circled (nah i decided that that is silver colored speaker wire strand) collector fptu-maybe-reed1.jpg (67.87 kB, 629x355 - viewed 403 times.) « Last Edit: 2026-01-21, 23:30:59 by Kooler »

Kooler	Re: collector « Reply #30 on: 2026-01-18, 04:28:14 »
Newbie Posts: 34	steel wire collector large11.jpg (70.11 kB, 701x570 - viewed 397 times.)

Kooler	Re: collector « Reply #31 on: 2026-01-18, 06:24:04 »
Newbie Posts: 34	if so does that mean there is iron wire wrapped around for control coils

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Re: collector « Reply #32 on: 2026-02-22, 01:45:38 »

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On overunity.com there were theories that the tpu used iron wire in its constriction none worked out.There were theories on control coils ,they didn't work out. Here is a picture of the two toroids used
in the big tpu,notice that the white wire is neatly placed across the toroid on the right side.On the left side the white wire,is sloppily placed across the toroid.Notice to that the white wire goes across the right toroid directly across.On the left toroid the white wire is not directly across the toroid .The question is why,I have my theories as to why,what are other members thinking on this.

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Kooler

Re: collector « Reply #33 on: 2026-02-22, 08:00:43 »

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my idea was that these where transformers rather than chokes ..because why would you try to get a amp reading off a choke.. and i also think that the emails from sm don't go along with the collector design.. because on the mtpu was like brian collins said 99% cork... ( in between top and bottom ) cause it took him longer to cut thought the top and the bottom than it did the middle on the 15'' unit.. ion said the spark jumped off the left torroid to the base.. i saw that and thought that would be a transformer problem rather than a choke issue when turning off the unit.. i've spent 25 hours reading though the forum on sm tpu stuff before asking any questions.. i lost a lot when helene hit north carolina and when i went to overunity.com to get a lot of my circuit diagrams back.. i found out the website was lost.. give me some time to recover some equipment and i will be back working on this tpu.. it really reminds me of the 3 transformer design i made in 2009 which was based off a tube audio amp ... i really thank you for replying to me..

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Re: collector « Reply #34 on: 2026-03-07, 17:07:22 »

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Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026-02-22, 01:45:38

On overunity.com there were theories that the tpu used iron wire in its constriction none worked out.There were theories on control coils ,they didn't work out. Here is a picture of the two toroids used
in the big tpu,notice that the white wire is neatly placed across the toroid on the right side.On the left side the white wire,is sloppily placed across the toroid.Notice to that the white wire goes across the right toroid directly across.On the left toroid the white wire is not directly across the toroid .The question is why,I have my theories as to why,what are other members thinking on this.

There were cabinets magnets inserted into each TPU that stuck. Watch the videos again. This adheres 100% with the Kunel patent. It takes an EMP('lightning from the sky' to quote SM) to break the flux connection in space/ Kunel air gap. 'Broken fuses make great spark gaps' to quote SM. The TPU is wound like a circular Tesla coil. The center toroids are the feed coils of the Armstrong oscillators into the two huge charge pumps which the large rings are part of. The large caps and diodes are by the inside edges of the outer ring. Each cap also has the necessary bleeder resistor on it.
The secret is to not allow the flux to keep its density in a central core material. Diffuse it in to space so it can be modulated. Review the High Q multiplier circuit.
'It really is quite simple' to quote SM. He never argued with any of my posts.

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Cheappower2012

Re: collector « Reply #35 on: 2026-03-08, 09:08:26 »

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Why would he tell you how to build a tpu,that was how he made hes money,by
tricking investors and giving them nothing,a coman of sorts.
The toroids have very little inductance I demonstrated this,due to how there wound.
A lot of mythology about the tpu has come over the years,SM did not
know how the tpu worked only that it worked,he stated this,during when
jack durban posted on overunity.com.The tpu is not related to any other
device,except the KAP device.This is why its more than 20 years and nobody
has figured how to make one ,I don't follow myths.I can never understand why
people can't see what a liar SM was or is.Also under conservation of energy
and matter,no free energy devices can exist,however energy converters
can exist,example solar panel,light energy into electrical energy.
For the tpu to be real it has to be an energy converter,the energy that
it converts must be close,I think its gravitational energy to electrical
energy.It will require a new theory of gravity in a local area.