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    I've been gone from the boards for a while, regrettably - my wife has had health issues and I've been focussing on helping her and doctor visits of late.

     Perhaps for distraction and learning, I've looked at anomalies in PHOTOS taken of the MOON and of Antarctica.   If you don't mind, I'd like to start a conversation on these observations.

     Let's start with this coil observed evidently on the moon (below) in photo taken by the Chinese moon orbiter series called Chang-e.  Actually, the video which shows this anomaly does not provide much detail regarding the provenance or location of the coil...  I would like such information, if any can help on that.

      IF this coil really appears on the moon, and can be observed again (repeatability is critical in good science), then it does tend to provide strong evidence for alien involvement - doesn't it?  Certainly no earthling has placed such a half-buried coil on the moon!
   
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  Here is the video showing the "coil" above.  I'm hoping there are more and better sources of information about this anomalous coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMD75IssBYM
   
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Looks more like a thermal coil. Some of those small turns are going into the moon itself. As if they had an underground hangout and needed some heat exchanger unit. Does not look like a coil in the electric sense. It is embedded into the rock formation so the rocks themselves could act as a radiant mass storage for when the sun is not direct.

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  Here is the video showing the "coil" above.  I'm hoping there are more and better sources of information about this anomalous coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMD75IssBYM
That video claims the images are from the Chang'E 2 orbiter but when you look into this there is no evidence at all that this is true.  This site
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-change-2-photos-of-alien-base-on-moon-hoax.t6174/
has some interesting detective work looking into a similar hoax where the claimed Chinese image is actually a reworked part of an earlier NASA image.  IMO these hoax images are not worth spending time and effort on.
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     Thanks for comments.  I don't see the "strange coil" on the debunking thread, Smudge... other things, yes. 

Wattsup - yes, some of the coils appear to be embedded in moon rock...

        Meanwhile, I have done some web searching, and I have found two more videos that show the "strange coil on the moon" displayed in the OP.  This is the more informative of the two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXbKGw_BQi8   at about 4m08s mark.

   This video explains that the moon photos shown derive from Ken Johnston, a former official at NASA who had access to footage and photos acquired by astronauts on the moon-- evidently shown in conjunction with Richard Hoagland.  Why the other video suggested the coil was seen by the Chang-e probe is not clear.

I next will search for the original release of photos by Ken Johnston.
   

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I can vouch for the authenticity of this photo because I took it myself, on May 29, 2012.

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  Wow!  that is quite an observation all right, TK!

  The scientific key is, as always, reproducibility.  With the "coil", there is a chance of finding WHERE the photo was taken so that another effort can be made - to get another photo, and then to get still more data (like - the material the coil is made out of).
   

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the moon "coil" looks more like a collapsed structural frame than a coil
   
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the moon "coil" looks more like a collapsed structural frame than a coil

Perhaps so... Do you see that a portion of it is under rock-like material?
   
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  Interesting article in a Japanese paper yesterday:

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/10/18/national/science-health/japans-lunar-orbiter-discovers-moon-cave-potentially-suitable-use-shelter/#.WejVPnCU9WM

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Japan’s lunar probe discovers moon cave, which may be optimal base for space exploration
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Observation data collected by Japan’s lunar orbiter Kaguya has found a cave stretching about 50 km (30 miles) on the moon that could potentially serve as a shelter for astronauts on future missions, an international research team including the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency has said.

The cave could protect astronauts from radiation from the sun and cosmic rays if they build a base for exploration, the team said Wednesday.

The cave, believed to be a lava tube created about 3.5 billion years ago, sits beneath an area with a group of volcanic domes called the Marius Hills, it said.

The lunar orbiter initially found a hole about 50 meters in diameter and depth. Further surveys of the area with radio waves discovered the lava tube, the researchers said.

The cave is believed to have a width of several tens of meters.

Like caves found around Mount Fuji and the island of Hawaii, the cave on the moon is highly likely to have been formed after the lava surface solidified following a fall in temperature, according to the researchers.

“The cave is a scientifically useful place,” said Tetsuya Kaku, a graduate student at Tokai University involved in the study. Kaku cited the possibility of finding minerals produced when the moon was formed as well as water.

The researchers published their finding in U.S. journal Geophysical Research Letters.

I wish these probe's photos were made public!
   
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I brought you another Vid to ponder [on a different topic]
from Member Acca at Stefan's forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IZ34Wwa-AE  at the 1 minute 50 sec mark an oscillation [collapse and expand... collapse and expand?
at 12 min 14 sec mark .....Iron and neutrons

Stefan's thread here
http://overunity.com/17447/exploring-sonoluminescence-a-discussion-on-simple-replication-methods/msg512161/#new

« Last Edit: 2017-10-26, 13:44:31 by Chet K »
   
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I brought you another Vid to ponder [on a different topic]
from Member Acca at Stefan's forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IZ34Wwa-AE  at the 1 minute 50 sec mark an oscillation [collapse and expand... collapse and expand?
at 12 min 14 sec mark .....Iron and neutrons

Stefan's thread here
http://overunity.com/17447/exploring-sonoluminescence-a-discussion-on-simple-replication-methods/msg512161/#new

Thanks for the heads-up, Chet.

I plan to begin a review of current claims of the "Anomalous Heat Excess" (AHE) community of scientists...  beginning with SL.  Probably will start a new thread on this topic.

Again, thanks for the pointer, Chet!
   
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    I've been gone from the boards for a while, regrettably - my wife has had health issues and I've been focussing on helping her and doctor visits of late.

     Perhaps for distraction and learning, I've looked at anomalies in PHOTOS taken of the MOON and of Antarctica.   If you don't mind, I'd like to start a conversation on these observations.

     Let's start with this coil observed evidently on the moon (below) in photo taken by the Chinese moon orbiter series called Chang-e.  Actually, the video which shows this anomaly does not provide much detail regarding the provenance or location of the coil...  I would like such information, if any can help on that.

      IF this coil really appears on the moon, and can be observed again (repeatability is critical in good science), then it does tend to provide strong evidence for alien involvement - doesn't it?  Certainly no earthling has placed such a half-buried coil on the moon!
       Well, I'll tell you what:
It's easy to see that parts of the coil are actually buried in the surrounding lunar crust/soil.   My speculative question is:   If that had happened, how long has it been there?
Let alone, completely:  What does it do?   Why is it there?

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What makes you think it's on the moon?

The video up above shows several images that are from Ceres, Pluto and other objects, while "implying" that all photos are of Luna.


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here is another contribution on the iron
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-342/aflb342m669.pdf

from member microvolt at energetic

seems a new thread will be starting soon...

some have been musing about the iron in MJN's SMD too
   
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Thanks, Chet.  I'm reading...

TK is right - one thing I really DON"T like about that video is that fails to identify WHERE the photo was taken, and fails to give a source. 

I'm still intrigued by the coil though... but no word back to my comments/questions to the guy who posted the coil image...

I would be interested in any TESTABLE (/repeatable) artifact like this, that is documented andis found outside of the earth.  On or in the earth would work also - if the artifact was truly of non-earthly origin...

I'm getting intrigued by the challenge of TESTABLE evidence for the existence of extra-terrestrials...
Guess I'll leave it at that for now, but such findings could possibly maybe perhaps lead us to a new source of energy...

What makes you think it's on the moon?

The video up above shows several images that are from Ceres, Pluto and other objects, while "implying" that all photos are of Luna.
« Last Edit: 2017-11-02, 02:58:04 by PhysicsProf »
   
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IF this coil really appears on the moon, and can be observed again (repeatability is critical in good science), then it does tend to provide strong evidence for alien involvement - doesn't it?

The aliens are on earth since ages and have created the human race. Of course you can not see them, because they do not want to be revealed.

Once the population of earth has reached 10 billion, all able bodied humans will be used as soldiers in a war against an other planet. All wars on earth are training wars and all weapon technologies developed on earth are geared towards the future attack on this other planet. You can deduce that orbit, air, sea and land attacks will take place, hence the appropriate technologies were introduced on earth.

Unfortunately the aliens do not care what happens to earth and to this other planet. These two planets are just pawns in a bigger power struggle. Take solace in the fact that you serve a higher purpose. You life is not for nothing.

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  In Fox News today - photo of an image of a person NOT in a space suit, reflecting on the visor of a man (supposedly) on the moon, Apollo 17:

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/11/20/apollo-moon-landing-was-faked-conspiracy-theorists-claim-with-new-photo.html

  Not sure what to think of this yet...
   

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https://www.rt.com/usa/410360-moon-landing-new-conspiracy/

"An image shared on NASA’s site shows Schmitt standing next to the large boulder featured in the suspicious image. It was taken by Cernan. If Schmitt turned toward Cernan, he would have been in an ideal position for Cernan’s reflection to be captured in Schmitt’s helmet."

  Not sure what to think of this yet...

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    Also apropos the moon:  https://www.foxnews.com/science/nasa-astronauts-moons-south-pole?cmpid=NL_SciTech

Water on the moon could be used as a source of oxygen for a colony...
   
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