author=Magluvin link=topic=3776.msg74824#msg74824 date=1558917616]
creation is consistent with natural laws—for example, creation is consistent with the laws of thermodynamics and the law of biogenesis.
Really
biogenesis-->
the synthesis of substances by living organisms.
HISTORICAL
the hypothesis that living matter arises only from other living matter.And Adam was made from dust-->non living matter.
Fail.
creation is consistent with natural laws
Natural law-->
1-a body of unchanging moral principles regarded as a basis for all human conduct
2-an observable law relating to natural phenomenaSo the bible tells us that human conduct got that bad that god had to flood the earth,and kill almost all of them.
So much for unchanging moral principles,if we assume god made man in his own image
The !creation! of man from dust was not natural,it was super natural.
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creation is consistent with the law of biogenesis
Biogenesis-->
Conceptually, biogenesis is primarily attributed to Louis Pasteur and encompasses the belief that complex living things come only from other living things, by means of reproduction. That is, life does not spontaneously arise from non-living materialSo once again,we see that biogenesis disproves the bible,as Adam was !apparently made from non living material-dust,and we find that biogenesis adheres to evolution,where complex living things came from other living things. Perhaps you are mixed up with how life started,and the evolutionary process from that life. Both of which are two different subjects.
So a fail on all three accounts there as well for the creationist.
Evolution is contrary to the laws of thermodynamics
The 2nd law of thermodynamics-->
The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time.And your argument ends right there,as the earth is not an isolated system.
The sun continues to add energy to earth every single day. Lets see how long life on earth lasts without the sun.
Infact, the sun delivers in excess of--are you ready for this-->
Each hour 430 quintillion Joules of energy from the sun hits the Earth But wait,there's more-->Every day,
Earth is bombarded with more than 100 tons of dust and meteorites.
I have not calculated the combined energy of 100 tons hitting the earth at about 30,000kph,but i would think it quite substantial,and that can also be added to the system,along with the fact that the earths mas also increases by this amount each day.
So much for your laws of thermodynamics.
There are no known biological processes for evolution to higher levels of organization and complexity—mutations are overwhelmingly degenerative and none are “uphill”
Below are two pictures of two different people,but !apparently! both are Noah's descendant's
One is from europe,and the other from Australia.
One is Dirk Hartog,who landed in Western Australia in 1616
One is the people he found here when he arrived,the Original founders of Australia--as they look today.
Dirk Hartogs peoples level of organization and complexities was high enough to build houses,factories,and ships large enough to sail across the oceans of the world.
The Aboriginals level of organization and complexities was at a level of living in grass and stick hut's,catching food with sharpened wooden spears.
But they both had the same time to develope.
I guess all men were not created equal
Geologic landforms and sedimentary features are completely consistent with a worldwide flood as described in the Book of Genesis.
Non are consistent with a world wide flood.
Enormous limestone formations, huge coal and oil formations, and immense underground salt layers are indicative of a worldwide flood—not slow and gradual processes over billions of years. Such features are satisfactorily explained by a worldwide flood and known geophysical and geochemical processes.
Once again incorrect.
A single flood cannot and did not create the layers found through the earths crust today,nor could it have placed different types of animals at different layer as we see today. All the animals would have been all mixed in together,and not placed in seperate layers as we see they are.
A worldwide flood as described in Genesis 6–8 is within the boundaries of known geophysics—see phase diagram in chapter 4 and Pangaea Flood Video at CreationScienceToday.com.
A world wide flood conforms to no laws of geophysics,mathematics,or any physics at all.
This has been proven beyond any doubt.
I gave you a simple experiment to try,so try it and see how you go.
Be the first man ever to make rocks and sand rise out of the water,using just water.
Fact--> you would need 3.5 times the water we have on earth to cover all the hills and mountains as stated in the bible.
Fact-->that water would have to go some where,and there was no where for it to go.
Fact-->To displace 4.4 billion cubic kilometers of water,we would have to have 4.4 billion cubic kilometers of earth rise up,so as we end up with the volume of water we have today--which by the way is not 4.4 billion cubic kilometers,it is still only 1.37 billion cubic kilometers.
So where is the other 3 billion odd cubic kilometers of water?
There is no credible technique for establishing the age of sedimentary rock—fossil dating used to establish the age of sedimentary rock suffers from circular reasoning and guesswork, all based on the assumption of evolution.
Once again wrong.
There a many dating methods that give very accurate dates,such as--
Amino acid dating[5][6][7][8]
Archaeomagnetic dating[9]
Argon–argon dating
Uranium–lead dating
Samarium–neodymium dating
Potassium–argon dating
Rubidium–strontium dating
Uranium–thorium dating
Radiocarbon dating
Fission track dating
Optically stimulated luminescence
Luminescence dating
Thermoluminescence dating (a type of luminescence dating)
Iodine–xenon dating
Lead–lead dating
Oxidizable carbon ratio dating
Rehydroxylation dating[10]
Cementochronology (this method does not determine a precise moment in a scale of time but the age at death of a dead individual)
Wiggle matching
Datestone (exclusively used in archaeology)
Obsidian hydration dating (exclusively used in archaeology)
Tephrochronology
Molecular clock (used mostly in phylogenetics and evolutionary biology)
Dendrochronology
Herbchronology
The standard geologic column with transitional creatures evolving toward more complex forms, as depicted in most science textbooks, is utterly fictitious and misleading, and does not represent the real world. In reality, it perfectly represents the aftermath of a worldwide flood.
Once again,absolute garbage.
No single flood can place different animal species at different stages of transition,in different layers within a geologic column. Do you actually read or listen to this stuff you are posting?.
Simple experiment number two
Take same container from first experiment.
Fill with a mixture of different soils,dirt,and rocks.
Add in 10 dead fly's,10 dead beatles,10 dead spiders,and 10 dead cockroaches.
Mix altogether with large amount of water,and pour into clear transparent bucket with drain holes in the bottom.
Once water has drained out,post pictures of all the different insects each in there own group in each there own layer formed.
Yes,thats how stupid it is.
There are no transitional fossils or living forms—there is not one single example of evolution! Evolutionists look for “the” missing link—ironically, they are in desperate search for just one! But there should be billions of examples of transitional forms with transitional structures if evolution were true, but there are none. The bottom line, evolution has never been observed within fossils or living populations.
Once again-wrong.
Perhaps a simple video to explain as to how much proof we have so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROwKq3kxPEAContrary to popular belief, evidence indicates that early man was intelligent and highly skilled with an advanced social structure. There is also evidence suggesting their belief in the existence of an afterlife.
Yes they were. But now there even smarter,more intelligent,and much more highly skilled. An example is our Australian Aboriginals. It is amazing what happens when there is a change in environment and intervention.
Soft tissues and traces of blood cells have been found in dinosaur fossils supposedly 70 to 250 million years old. (Soft tissues and red blood cells have relatively short life spans.)
Lol,another attempt by the creationist to distort the truth.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dinosaur-shocker-115306469/Quote:
Meanwhile, Schweitzer’s research has been hijacked by “young earth” creationists, who insist that dinosaur soft tissue couldn’t possibly survive millions of years. They claim her discoveries support their belief, based on their interpretation of Genesis, that the earth is only a few thousand years old. Of course, it’s not unusual for a paleontologist to differ with creationists. But when creationists misrepresent Schweitzer’s data, she takes it personally:A video from Mary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vU4FSPHfMwSo as we see,a new technique was tried using acid,and she gives the results,while fully disclosing that the bones are indeed from a Trex of millions of years ago.
Another attempt from creationist to distort the truth to suit there own agenda--but you got sprung-again.
Carbon-14 has been found in coal and diamonds supposedly hundreds of millions of years old. (C-14 has a relatively short life-span.)
Radioisotope dating suffers from multiple unprovable assumptions—the technique is “fatally flawed”—yet scientists contend as fact what they cannot prove.
Abundant daughter isotopes are indicative of accelerated nuclear decay associated with creation (expansion, stretching out, or acceleration of the universe from an extremely hot, dense phase when matter and energy were concentrated) and a worldwide flood with massive restructuring of the earth’s lithosphere, not slow and gradual processes over billions of years.
Evidences of accelerated nuclear decay in igneous rocks found worldwide are helium in zircon crystals, radiohalos and fission tracks, and rapid magnetic field reversals and decay.
Over a hundred geochronometers indicate a young earth and universe.
Odd that when i look up any part of the supplied information,it always leads to creationist science sites.
Whats the chances of that
But the present heavens and earth by His word are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
Well i must say,your god is a bit of a jerk.
Last time he drowned all but a few,even innocent children and animals.
This time he is going to burn us all to death,just because we dont believe in him.
So my children and grandchildren are all going to die,just because they do not believe in god.
Not only are you lot off with the !fairies!,you believe that a god who commits armageddon against his own creation is a loving god.
You think evolutionist's are nuts.
You lot need to get back on your med's.
And lets me take a guess at some more twisting and turning here with this one.
If God created the heavens and earth some 6000 years ago,how is it we can see the Andromeda galaxy that is 2.5 million light years away,or the Triangulum Galaxy at about 3 million light years ?
Oh let me guess,the speed of light was much faster back then--right
What i will say is,i am so glade i got out of the religious delusion at a young age.
And the thread title says that evolution is a myth lol.
Brad
Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.