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    Their main office is in Cheyenne, WY.  I will be traveling through Cheyenne in July, next month...

    I sent them a message.  Will let you know if they respond.

So far we don't have proof of a scam but all the symtoms.
I bet my usual case of champagne :) they won't allow you to measure anything or look closely. They won't risk being exposed.


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So far we don't have proof of a scam but all the symtoms.
I bet my usual case of champagne :) they won't allow you to measure anything or look closely. They won't risk being exposed.

Agreed, I have visited many factories back in my working days, but this one looks like it's set up for strictly PR to impress visitors and photo shoots.

From the very beginning my BS meter has been pegged on this one.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/b11wml/first_free_energy_magnet_motor_installed_in_las/

The statement "It's not a perpetual motion" is one of the symptoms of a scam. They say this to reassure investors, affirming that magnets demagnetize.
But it is indeed a perpetual motion, since the energy they claim to produce is higher by many orders of magnitude than that required for magnetization of magnets, so a tiny part of this energy could be used to remagnetize the magnets. Clearly, they're lying to us.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/b11wml/first_free_energy_magnet_motor_installed_in_las/

Why is it not suitable for home use ?
There is simply no reason it could not be used for domestic purposes,as any excess power could be delivered back to the grid.

There is something wrong here.
It wreaks of a scam.
When will there be some accurate power measurements done by a credible source ?.


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Why is it not suitable for home use ?
There is simply no reason it could not be used for domestic purposes,
as any excess power could be delivered back to the grid.

Unless it isn't made with the ability for grid tie and syncing with grid
phase and frequency.

Would it be suitable for full Off-Grid operation with no need for grid tie?


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The statement "It's not a perpetual motion" is one of the symptoms of a scam. They say this to reassure investors, affirming that magnets demagnetize.
But it is indeed a perpetual motion, since the energy they claim to produce is higher by many orders of magnitude than that required for magnetization of magnets, so a tiny part of this energy could be used to remagnetize the magnets. Clearly, they're lying to us.

No, that is not clear.  What is clear is your hubris, F6FLT.
   
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  Frankly, I'm not so sure I want to continue to post here, with you around taking pot-shots at me, F6, and those I'm interested in working with,  (mostly on other threads).

   I'm about ready to seek greener pastures...

   
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No, that is not clear.  What is clear is your hubris, F6FLT.

So you mean that the energy for magnetization of magnets is more than the energy that the IEC device will provide.
Can you be more explicit and quantify the energy in question?
I'd be happy if you could talk about physics instead of making unfounded comments.
« Last Edit: 2019-06-23, 11:31:41 by F6FLT »


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So you mean that the energy for magnetization of magnets is more than the energy that the IEC device will provide.
Can you be more explicit and quantify the energy in question?
I'd be happy if you could talk about physics instead of making unfounded comments.

Unfounded?  what you JUST SAID is another cheap-shot.
For example, "So you mean that the energy for magnetization of magnets is more than the energy that the IEC device will provide."

    No, that is not what I mean at all!  never said that. 
More hubris on your part, incidentally.

   

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Believing in something false doesn't make it true.
PhysicsProf, please check your PMs.


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Unfounded?  what you JUST SAID is another cheap-shot.
For example, "So you mean that the energy for magnetization of magnets is more than the energy that the IEC device will provide."

    No, that is not what I mean at all!  never said that. 
More hubris on your part, incidentally.

If you didn't say that, then what you answered was unrelated to what I say.

IEC said that it's not a perpetual motion because the magnets demagnetize and I said :
"But it is indeed a perpetual motion, since the energy they claim to produce is higher by many orders of magnitude than that required for magnetization of magnets, so a tiny part of this energy could be used to remagnetize the magnets."

So I asked you kindly to answer on what is being said, which is a simple question of physics but in your last message I see "physics" only in your pseudonym.


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