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Author Topic: Free Energy Conspiracy?.  (Read 417 times)
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I find it kind of strange how silent all the FE forums have become in the last year. It would seem all the real inventors who were showing real experiments and debating real issues have all but disappeared.

As well some have said people who sometimes post off topic take away from the conversation. However I would ask... what conversation?. There have only been at best a couple posts each day here this week and few if any had anything to do with FE specifically. It would seem to be not much better over at OU.com and beyond the typical small talk nothing of consequence has happened. How can debating an issue take away from the conversation when there is quite literally no more real conversations taking place?.

I have to wonder what happened when the forums were a very different place three or four years ago.

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  I agree with your observation, but do not know what happened.  I can think of two possibilities:

1 - Perhaps people got tired of posting - nothing seems to pan out year after year...

2 - Or maybe a few key people found POSITIVE results, and decided not to SHARE anymore.
   

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I find most here are project oriented and don't post this sort of thing. It's the sort of thing that distracts and creates noise. Be the thing you seek.
   

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Believing in something false doesn't make it true.
I personally have found it much easier to communicate by email with those interested in working on the same thing I am working on.  It just eliminates a lot of hassle from those that are continually only interested in being a naysayer.  When or if I ever have any success I will be very glad to share what i have learned.  And the others I work with via email also plan to share anything of value they learn.  But not posting on the forums and having to waste time defending my research has turned out to be a much better way of collaborating with those working in the same area of research.

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I personally have found it much easier to communicate by email with those interested in working on the same thing I am working on.  It just eliminates a lot of hassle from those that are continually only interested in being a naysayer.  When or if I ever have any success I will be very glad to share what i have learned.  And the others I work with via email also plan to share anything of value they learn.  But not posting on the forums and having to waste time defending my research has turned out to be a much better way of collaborating with those working in the same area of research.

Carroll

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I agree with your observation, but do not know what happened.  I can think of two possibilities:

1 - Perhaps people got tired of posting - nothing seems to pan out year after year...

2 - Or maybe a few key people found POSITIVE results, and decided not to SHARE anymore.

1) T.H.Moray said he worked on his device for 30 years before he considered it to be producing the desired results he wanted. So I can see how many may lose hope that they can make this work however nothing worth doing is ever easy.

2) I suspect many have done the research and the hard work and then decided not to share for their own reasons. I used to judge them as many others have however it's easy to judge others when we personally have little to lose. Where I believe the free energy community has failed is in providing a positive atmosphere for success. If we really wanted to succeed then I would do the following....
a) Set up secure fund raising so people who want to help can reward and protect real inventors with demonstrable technology.
b) To create a plan for success spelling out what is required of the inventors, what they will receive and the process involved in it's entirety.
c) To bring in real professionals with years of experience to fast track testing in a controlled and secure atmosphere.

I believe this is how the Safire Project was set up and it would seem to have worked out pretty well.

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The subject matter tends to by cyclical on the various forums.

There are periods of great enthusiasm and voluminous participation
from time to time but they always fade away in an amount of time.

Some become frustrated that the hoped for "COP" doesn't easily
materialize or that the costs of purchasing materials to support
the tinkering becomes excessive.

Then, of course, there is always the possibility of a thread "going
postal" as hostilities are expressed and accusations are made.

When the search for Free Energy or Over-Unity becomes an
obsession then weird things seem to develop.  Aggressive behaviors
often arise and any who "question" or "disagree" are accused of
being Trolls or Shills.  Emotions can easily run out of control.

Those are the warning signs that all is not well.

Conspiracies do exist.  Far more frequently than most would believe
possible.  Those who are masters of the Real Free Energy of
finance, power and control have a vested interest in suppressing
Truth.  In our present World any other form of Free Energy will
not be permitted to take root.


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The subject matter tends to by cyclical on the various forums.

There are periods of great enthusiasm and voluminous participation
from time to time but they always fade away in an amount of time.

Some become frustrated that the hoped for "COP" doesn't easily
materialize or that the costs of purchasing materials to support
the tinkering becomes excessive.

I have read about countless people in the past who went all in and lost there house, there marriage and ended up destitute. I learned from them and chose not to repeat the same mistakes. I took it slow and methodical again trying not to repeat others mistakes thinking this was going to happen overnight. I think of it as a hobby, a journey and I can walk away any time I choose. It is the freedom of having a choice which opens one's mind and new opportunities in my opinion.

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Conspiracies do exist.  Far more frequently than most would believe
possible.  Those who are masters of the Real Free Energy of
finance, power and control have a vested interest in suppressing
Truth.

Conspiracies do exist but some do finally see the light. Just recently the Navy disclosed video and literature concerning the fact that UFO's are real. Now other governments and there agencies are disclosing more evidence that UFO's are real and they have been studying the phenomena for decades.

I have know this for decades, I saw a UFO and know many people who have saw them as well. One person who I have known for 30 years said he had a craft 200 feet across hovering a few hundred feet above his and a friends head out in a pasture. Yet many people cannot believe because they simply cannot wrap there mind around the concept that we are not superior nor are we all that intelligent compared to them. They can do anything they want and we are more or less powerless to stop them which invokes a great deal of fear.

However I am not afraid and I know many people more intelligent than myself and much more powerful...so what's the big deal?. In my opinion the real fear is about the fact that they may have been around for tens or hundreds of thousands of years and know all about our history... our real history. Myself, I'm looking for the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

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On UFO's and conspiracies...

I was thinking about the Navy UFO video, my first hand observation of a UFO and how a craft can accelerate from zero to upwards of 30,000 mph in under a second. I saw it first hand, it is an irrefutable fact however my mind still has an issue with it. It begs the question relating to psychology and metacognition, why does my mind want to dismiss certain facts it knows and observed as a fact?. Is it reasonable that a person should deny something they could observe as a fact because of a belief?.

In my opinion the problem is not the facts of this matter but more so the belief that the UFO phenomena is abnormal, un-natural and beyond our comprehension or belief. I find this strange, that our minds could be playing tricks on us and trying to deny things we know to be true as a fact. The same could be said of Free Energy and it seems obvious to me Energy is everywhere in everything. We should know it as an irrefutable fact and yet a majority of people cannot believe what they were taught in school and can observe as a fact. There is no thing anywhere which is not in perpetual motion and motion is energy thus free energy is the norm not an exception to any rule.

Maybe were all a little crazy more or less...

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  I agree with your observation, but do not know what happened.  I can think of two possibilities:

1 - Perhaps people got tired of posting - nothing seems to pan out year after year...

2 - Or maybe a few key people found POSITIVE results, and decided not to SHARE anymore.

I could see 1 being the case for some, but...
For good reason on 2 in the age of mass surveillance...
   

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Or maybe a few key people found POSITIVE results, and decided not to SHARE anymore.

Anomalous Excess Energy events certainly are real and the electrical energy which
manifests does actual work as reported by witnesses.  Many experimenters also
report sporadic manifestations of excess electrical energy which occur suddenly and
unexpectedly.

The manifestations seem to be unpredictable and very difficult for others to replicate.
They seem to come and go without rhyme or reason and exist only briefly.

Are the manifestations of Pomerleau, Mark, Kapanadze and others the same kind of
energy?  What can possibly be the explanation for their occurrences which have
been witnessed by numerous observers?

It is mysterious and must have an explanation.  It does of course.

Many, many experimenters simply lose interest and move on to other pursuits. 


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Are the manifestations of Pomerania, Mark, Kapanadze and others the same kind of
energy?  What can possibly be the explanation for their occurrences which have
been witnessed by numerous observers?

It is mysterious and must have an explanation.  It does of course.

In fact it is more strange than most can imagine. Some people have hyper-electrosensitivity and break out in a rash or feel sick around electronics and some even pass out if a cell phone is turned on in the next room. There is also the alter ego where some people develop a HV surface charge for reasons yet to be explained. One person could literally destroy most electronics simply by touching them and had to avoid all electrical devices. These electrosensitive people have even started there own community where all electrical devices of any kind have been banned for their own protection. Apparently they don't need security because they could "feel" you coming a mile away, lol.

Now take a person such as Pomerania, he could fall into both categories and be able to generate a continuous surface charge on his body. Enough to start a circuit he invented with the correct circuitry and geometry if he was also electrosensitive. Nikola Tesla also claimed to be sensitive to electrical fields which would definitely help if one was an electrical engineer. Why would we need a silly meter if we could sense or feel electric fields in 3D?.

Simply put, trying to compare an electrosensitive person to an average person would be like trying to compare an owl with extraordinary vision day and night to a blind man with no cane.

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