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Author Topic: Oxygen generation using electrolysis or water fracturing.  (Read 1934 times)

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There was a guy at OU years ago that had shown a test tube with sodium hydroxide saturated water and a coil wound around the middle of the test tube. He said that the sodium hydroxide is a metal and when you apply an ac input to the coil, it produces copious amounts of HO. It looked like maybe a couple hundred turns of 26ga or larger wire and said we had to find the freq.

No need of plates in the solution so the solution stays cleen. Just keep adding water. Probably distilled is best. There was a lot of bubbling in his vid

Doesnt seem like a hard experiment to try for some out there working on these things.

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It looks as if electrolysis would work fine but is ruinously expensive.

Mudped's link suggests 5,000 amps at 1.8v with 4kw of heat to be handled somehow and Quora proposes that 8 minutes of flow costs 1KWH.

Yes, Electrolysis is only practical where either electricity is extremely inexpensive or one has their own electrical supply either Solar, Wind or Water powered.

The example cited where 4kW of Heat would be produced can be improved upon.

The ideal Electrolyzer will have a large number of cells which operate at a low current level thereby eliminating heat losses.

Lots of cells is not entirely impractical but it would be quite a large Electrolyzer.

Presently the least expensive way to produce Oxygen in quantity for health purposes is by means of a Concentrator.

What is an Oxygen Concentrator?

How does an Oxygen Concentrator work?


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The atmosphere is full of O2, it's simply a matter of separating the Nitrogen and Oxygen in the most practical way.


...which looks like the oxygen concentrator.
   
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He said that the sodium hydroxide is a metal and when you apply an ac input to the coil, it produces copious amounts of HO.

Sodium hydroxide is a violently powerful alkali, a white powder used, amongst other things, for unblocking drains. As for HO, this is a charged ion, as such, unstable. He sounds like a crackpot.
   
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Presently the least expensive way to produce Oxygen in quantity for health purposes is by means of a Concentrator.

What is an Oxygen Concentrator?

How does an Oxygen Concentrator work?

This seems the way forward. What is needed is a local university or technical college to get a couple of students do a build and produce a write up for https://www.instructables.com/
   

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I recently acquired an AMETEK Pwervar system from a mans front yard. I am about to do a complete check to make sure everything is in good working order. It has 8 AC outlets and I got to thinking about using it to power my system. I can literally use all 8 outlets to operate 8 different cells combined into one complete system therefore cutting down on power consumption and increasing gas output. (That's the theory anyways)  Also DeepSea divers use hydrogen in their tanks so I believe that as long as it is properly filtered I can control the amounts of each gas administered. If anyone is interested I would like to toss around my ideas and I could use not only feed back but some actual critiquing on what I have thus far. My wife has been bed ridden for 5 years now and I am on a mission to build a device that will act as a daily use chamber for the whole family. I will refrain from getting to in depth atm as I don't know if this thread is still active. But if anyone is interested Im always around. I know I chatted in another post with a few of you already.

Im am also working with radiant and vortex energy.

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I recently acquired an AMETEK Pwervar system from a mans front yard. I am about to do a complete check to make sure everything is in good working order. It has 8 AC outlets and I got to thinking about using it to power my system. I can literally use all 8 outlets to operate 8 different cells combined into one complete system therefore cutting down on power consumption and increasing gas output. (That's the theory anyways)  Also DeepSea divers use hydrogen in their tanks so I believe that as long as it is properly filtered I can control the amounts of each gas administered. If anyone is interested I would like to toss around my ideas and I could use not only feed back but some actual critiquing on what I have thus far. My wife has been bed ridden for 5 years now and I am on a mission to build a device that will act as a daily use chamber for the whole family. I will refrain from getting to in depth atm as I don't know if this thread is still active. But if anyone is interested Im always around. I know I chatted in another post with a few of you already.

Im am also working with radiant and vortex energy.

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How many liters per minute does your wife need?

Im not quite sure at the moment. My goal is to utilize a fridge sized chamber where the internal atmosphere will be a constant, safe, controllable amount. I plan on combining this with not only audio frequencies but vibrational tones that utilize quartz plates that the feet and seat rest upon. I have also created a version for multiple people to sit in. Am I allowed to share pictures of non built systems and devices? I am only 3 years in and don't quite have all the answers on actual work-ability. If that makes sense. The entire goal of this is simple. I just want to create "the perfect atmosphere" that one can relax in for a small amount of time daily. While being versatile to offer heavy duty options for more immune compromised people.


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Also DeepSea divers use hydrogen in their tanks...

Why Do Technical Divers Use Helium?

Hydrogen would be hazardous.


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Why Do Technical Divers Use Helium?

Hydrogen would be hazardous.

Here is a table that depicts the usage of breathable hydrogen in submarines. https://www.nap.edu/read/12032/chapter/9#154  Hydrogen has been shown in real time opening veins and allowing the blood to flow better. My theory is to use the hydrogen to get the body to open up therefore allowing the oxygen that is filtered twice to spread through the body. I have also looked into the riff machine and from what I have gathered is there were more than frequencies used to destroy cancer cells. If we look into Mark Twains claims of standing on Teslas device we can see that our bodies will rejuvenate itself. And here is my theory. Water has been shown to remember its original state. Therefore, has the ability to restructure itself. Our bodies are made of 75% water. If I can successfully re tune the water in my body, the other forms of healing agents can function better. (properly) I want to say that this is all theory as of right now. I have been building my device for over 4 years now and I think that I am close to having it completed over winter. 

The reason I joined this forum is because I believe that with very little input power this device can output a larger power simply because its designed to utilize multiple aspects of internal energy providers.

I am glad that there is a section on electrolysis. Not only will this system be used for healthy living but I can harvest the excess resources to do other things. My overall goal is to combine this and architecture. Without going into writing a book here I think you can see what I am saying.

Its all just theory as of right now though so I am here to find people to input ideas and help me to open source what I have. I am a novice electrical engineer but I am dedicated to this and spend 80% of my days learning. I am a full time care taker and father which is why im even in this field.  Here is a draft of the system. Its like a Hoagden. or like a meditation roo