Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed

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JimBoot	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #25 on: 2024-05-18, 02:56:49 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1943	This bloke was doing his own tests and if he can't debunk will have it as conference next month. https://youtu.be/XyVKTJYxmnc?t=7266 From the Danny Jones Podcast

Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #26 on: 2024-05-24, 20:19:34 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	“” THE DISCLOSURE IS HAPPENING \| It's real this time and EVERYBODY is talking about it”” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_x8t8Fdgh8 I hope so …. Respectfully submitted Chet K

JimBoot	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #27 on: 2024-05-24, 22:46:28 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1943	I’m looking forward to seeing a successful replication.

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #28 on: 2024-05-25, 08:31:47 »

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Quote from: Chet K on 2024-05-24, 20:19:34

“” THE DISCLOSURE IS HAPPENING | It's real this time and EVERYBODY is talking about it””
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We've been hearing that for at least 25 years. Do you really believe that the truth is going to come from the conspiratorial word of an “alchemical” smooth talker who manipulates science through selections, interpretations and juxtapositions of interviews to make us believe in the marvellous and the magical, and feed his business?
It's like those fortune-tellers who are supposed to tell us the future. They tell the gullible what they want to hear, and the gullible are reinforced in their illusions because someone else is telling them what they themselves are dreaming.
It's not hard to keep superstitions alive.

Quote from: JimBoot on 2024-05-24, 22:46:28

I’m looking forward to seeing a successful replication.

That's the only reasonable attitude. I'm waiting too.
And if we could wait for it before talking about it, that would be even better.

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Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #29 on: 2024-05-29, 19:25:04 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	COP 1.3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qfkziU4lTqI&t=339 Bin-Juine Huang - Discussion of his groups low-yield but easy to build system Respectfully submitted Chet K

Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #30 on: 2024-06-29, 23:01:06 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	The updates from the summit starting to present. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ6D2XBJbXM Respectfully submitted Chet K

JimBoot	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #31 on: 2024-06-30, 10:30:05 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1943	Quote from: Chet K on 2024-05-29, 19:25:04 COP 1.3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qfkziU4lTqI&t=339 Bin-Juine Huang - Discussion of his groups low-yield but easy to build system Respectfully submitted Chet K Correct URL without the time parameter. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qfkziU4lTqI

Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #32 on: 2024-07-11, 01:53:23 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	Jim Thanks for above correction. Here Member Cloxxki shared a new Vid on a replication installed in a vehicle … (55 Chevy truck) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBgVVfitmU Respectfully submitted Chet K

Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #33 on: 2024-08-20, 03:18:11 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	Start of Build guide for THOR Thunderstorm Generator DIY Build Guide v2 \| Part 1: The "Ioniser" and "Bubbler" (Plasmoid Generator) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq9O4QeeY-8 Respectfully submitted Chet K

Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #34 on: 2024-09-20, 19:05:13 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	Update video from Australia “” Introduction to Malcolm Bendall's Thunderstorm Generator (Plasmoid / MSAART Technology)”” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zrHdz5yMjBI Respectfully submitted Chet K

Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #35 on: 2025-03-25, 13:37:28 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	Cloxxki shared this yesterday Seems LENR forum exploring transmutation and some small experiments Showing “evidence “? https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/7255-tibi-s-exploration-of-high-current-sparks/?pageNo=3 Respectfully submitted Chet

Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #36 on: 2025-08-25, 23:46:28 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	Shared by an intrigued researcher ( on the topic (Bob Greenyer )) Some comments from presenter meander a bit ….? However, at 8:40 mark it starts on topic and at 17:26 mark begins the “interesting “ Experiments… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=79vQNjscX3c Respectfully submitted Chet K

Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #37 on: 2025-09-24, 06:45:49 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frk_DWdKi28 Thunderstorm Generator goes into mass production??

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #38 on: 2025-10-02, 17:20:31 »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frk_DWdKi28
Thunderstorm Generator goes into mass production??

It's weird so many supposed experts cannot seem to understand something this simple.

We could think of it this way, an average well tuned gas engine can run at 30% efficiency. This means 70% of the energy in the fuel goes straight out the exhaust pipe as heat. 70% of the energy input being wasted should have been our first clue 99% of people are not experts. For example, a stationary Combined Heat and Power unit can operate at up to 95% efficiency by using the waste heat. So the next question is how can we use this wasted energy to increase the efficiency.

The obvious solution is to transform some of the exhaust heat into a different more usable form of energy.

For example, in the video they claim a 40% improvement in efficiency which isn't bad. However we can do the same thing by using a water injected six stroke engine with a waste heat turbine-generator on the exhaust.

It's not rocket science... stop blowing 70% of the energy out the freaking exhaust, lol.

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Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #39 on: 2025-10-06, 12:15:44 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	Here an experiment which should really not be possible? Closed room ICE ? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTVLMXx6jP8&list=TLPQMDQxMDIwMjWIWZwrm7nXRA&t=366s&pp=2AHuApACAQ%3D%3D

sergh	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #40 on: 2025-10-06, 16:38:20 »
Full Member Posts: 135	Patent: "Low Energy Nuclear Reactor" Inventor: Pearl Rayms-Keller Michael S. Lowry Stacy R. Barker Current Assignee: US Department of Navy Status: Abandoned https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210090752A1/en

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #41 on: 2025-10-06, 17:36:05 »

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Sergh
Was speaking with an Engine expert ( member here) today,
We’re going to try to get one of these reactors for testing..etc etc

And hopefully …? Data log if possible with “sniffer”.

Thanks for info
Here your expired patent link again .

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210090752A1/en

Respectfully
Chet
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Here another “production “ update from various principals
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7mluWDJrdiM

Edit for AC comment below
Yes Pantone’s GEET work has always been mentioned (early on ), however the transmutation claims and alleged supporting
Electron beam microscope work seems an addendum … and perhaps shape of “reactor” and its association with
Transmutation “process “

Malcolm Bendall makes some interesting claims ( and yes has an interesting history )

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #42 on: 2025-10-07, 02:31:08 »

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Was speaking with an Engine expert ( member here) today,
We’re going to try to get one of these reactors for testing..etc etc

Cool, I am also an expert in Energy, Energy conversion and internal combustion. If you guys have any questions I can try to answer them.

On the GEET, I built and tested it which is almost identical to the THOR technology. It's not LENR and the actual process was invented in the 1950's. It's a combination of a Plasma Fuel Reformer and a water vapor/Steam Fuel Reformer ie. cracking process.

Plasma fuel reformer, A plasma fuel reformer is a technology that converts hydrocarbons, such as natural gas or biogas, into synthesis gas (syngas), which consists of hydrogen and carbon monoxide.

Steam fuel reformer, Steam reforming or steam methane reforming is a method for producing syngas by reaction of hydrocarbons with water.

Syngas, or synthesis gas, is a mixture primarily composed of hydrogen and carbon monoxide, often containing carbon dioxide and methane.

In effect, we use the waste exhaust heat to reform the fuel into much smaller molecules which burn much faster and more efficiently ie. 40% increase in efficiency. This is basically the same supposed process as the 100mpg carburetor. So the energy comes full circle, the waste heat output is used to reform the fuel input increasing efficiency.

Has anyone read the GEET patent and connected the dots with know processes?. Paul Pantone literally said this is a plasma fuel reformer in his patents. Has anyone actually read the patent?...

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #43 on: 2025-10-07, 07:07:36 »

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Quote from: Chet K on 2025-10-06, 17:36:05

Sergh

Thanks for info
Here your expired patent link again .
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210090752A1/en

Several specifics about this patent caught my attention.
First, it's a review of the LENR technologies the inventors believe are working.
Second, it's a patent holder:

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Current Assignee: US Department of Navy

Third, it uses substances with unusual properties:

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The ignitor device may be an electromagnetic device or a mechanical device such a percussion device to trigger a fulminant, e.g., sodium (Na) or copper(II) azides (Cu(N3)2). The ignitor device provides a burst of energy to the exothermic ignition material to start an exothermic reaction that delivers heat to the LENR fuel across the first external wall of the first vessel. According to an exemplary device herein, a volume of LENR (low energy nuclear reaction) fuel is disposed in a first chamber.

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #44 on: 2025-10-07, 15:40:50 »

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-Plasma fuel reformer, A plasma fuel reformer is a technology that converts hydrocarbons, such as natural gas or biogas, into synthesis gas (syngas), which consists of hydrogen and carbon monoxide.
-Steam fuel reformer, Steam reforming or steam methane reforming is a method for producing syngas by reaction of hydrocarbons with water.
-Syngas, or synthesis gas, is a mixture primarily composed of hydrogen and carbon monoxide, often containing carbon dioxide and methane.

Now that we have established the fact that the GEET/THOR uses a plasma/steam fuel reformer process to break large fuel molecules into smaller ones as Syngas we can go to the next step.

We now have Syngas which burns much faster and more efficiently than other fuels. However we still have the pre-detonation problem. Direct injection engines cannot pre-detonate the fuel because it is injected at the top of the compression stroke. However a hot cylinder with fuel/air in it can pre-detonate/ping on compression with lean mixtures.

So in order to run more efficient super lean fuel/air ratios we simply add water vapor to the intake. The water vapor flashes into steam at 100 C which cools the cylinder preventing pre-detonation. We can literally run any super efficient lean fuel/air ratio and never pre-detonate. The exhaust temperature is also much cooler and cleaner as claimed in the GEET/THOR. In my GEET setup I could add more water vapor and see exhaust temperatures down near 150 C as both GEET/THOR claimed.

This also explains the THOR claim that the exhaust is cooler, cleaner and can be run in a closed space for a short period just like the GEET. It's kind of comical once we understand what's actually going on. You see, much of the exhaust runs through the water bubbler which scrubs/absorbs most of the CO2. In fact Paul Pantone claims this in his patent. He also claims when the water bubbler absorbs the CO2 it produces excess O2. This happens because the CO2 is converted into carbonic acid in the bubbler and stays there. It's literally a CO2 scrubber, lol. So the acidic bubbler water must be replaced periodically. THOR seems to have omitted this fact or do not understand what's actually happening.

So it's really easy to reproduce the THOR claims, I have already done it when testing my GEET setup.

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Grumage	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #45 on: 2025-10-07, 19:28:02 »
Group: Renaissance Man Hero Member Posts: 3096	Blimey…. The principal of improving Hydrocarbon based fuels has been around for over a century…. Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed IMG_0790.jpeg (222.84 kB, 760x1163 - viewed 161 times.) --------------------------- Nanny state ? Left at the gate !!

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #46 on: 2025-10-07, 21:13:31 »

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Blimey…. The principal of improving Hydrocarbon based fuels has been around for over a century….

Thanks, being old school I love those old pictures.

In fact, plasma reformers/gasifiers are just a new spin on good old heat gasifiers ie. pyrolysis. "Pyrolysis is a process involving the separation of covalent bonds in organic matter by thermal decomposition within an inert environment without oxygen".

Gasification/pyrolysis aka the Fischer–Tropsch process was invented in the early 1900's and used during WW1 and WW2 due to fuel shortages.
If were ever in a pinch we can make bio-diesel from basically any organic material using pyrolysis. Bio-diesel and basically any liquid fuel work well in a GEET setup for power and heat (CHP). In fact, the GEET setup was one of the few devices I found which will burn waste oil efficiently and clean.

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #47 on: 2025-10-08, 14:23:53 »

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Noticed a comment on Thor Generator

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I don't thing the Thunderstorm Generator has fuel flowing through it at all. AFAIK it only has water mist and air flowing through its inner core which is heated by the exhaust flowing outside of it ...and the two never get mixed like in EGR schemes. That transformed air and water is mixed with the fuel after it exits the T. generator (e.g. mixing happens inside the cylinder after fuel injection).

Also, the exhaust contains more neon than the air and fuel inputs, which hydrocarbon cracking simply cannot do.
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Chet K	Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #48 on: 2025-10-09, 13:46:13 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4723	Main stream verification of Malcolm Bendal’s Thunderstorm generator ! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K_ndSKXQQMM Respectfully submitted Chet

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Re: Martin Fleischmann Memorial project -THOR reactor:LENR claimed « Reply #49 on: 2025-10-09, 19:52:08 »

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AllCanadian made some observations regarding GEET

Another researcher who also built the GEET strongly agrees with AllCanadian on it being a similar operating principle

Here GEETS creator Paul Pantone giving a Demonstration ..
making very similar comments to Malcolm Bendall.
honestly I remember the Demonstrations back then
And when I heard Transmutation it was a big turn off LENR

How could this be possible?
And now there seems investigations into those exact claims are going to be happening in many universities and research Facilities with the similar MO thunderstorm generator.
GEET is much easier to build from existing resources ( no special fabrication)

Here Malcolm’s design
vid test data ( data sprinkled throughout video )

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K_ndSKXQQMM

Seems a comparison is in order ….
Separate build topic ?…if it happens here ( me too)

Respectfully submitted
Chet