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Allcanadian

Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #125 on: 2026-04-02, 15:33:46 »

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Let's start with credibility...

P.N.Correa, MSc, PhD & A.N. Correa, HBA. This guy seems to be an expert in damn near everything including glass blowing his own discharge tubes. His friend, Arthur A. Axelrad MD, PhD, FRSC, Emeritus University Professor, University of Toronto witnessed the technology working and was very impressed.

As well the work is brilliant, impeccable showing detailed drawings including circuit diagrams and graphing all of the variables in detail. For those who can actually read they spell out the exact criteria needed to produce the effect and the mechanism for gain.

We could also note the mention of T.H.Morays work which is almost identical.
https://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm

Moray was not some quack and demonstrated a circuit in a small wooden box with an output of 20,000 watts. Not some minor anomaly, not a small measurement error. Only a fool would think 20 kW of power from a device demonstrated on a table in the middle of nowhere is a measurement error imo.

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #126 on: 2026-04-02, 15:54:58 »

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Years ago Marco tried to muster interest in PAGD
In “off forum” messages he said he had seen the future and it was “nuclear” energy ( always through me off.. or a deterrent in my cranium as it frightened me ( the layman..

Nowadays my understanding of what that may actually look like …

Is a place to experiment (Plasma and vacuum or pressure….and matter and magnetic fields .
AC
I like this approach and I see it’s a place you have always favored…
Or
“The space between the spaces” ( minuscule atomic spaces

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #127 on: 2026-04-02, 17:11:56 »

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Quote from: Chet K on 2026-04-02, 15:54:58

Years ago Marco tried to muster interest in PAGD
In “off forum” messages he said he had seen the future and it was “nuclear” energy ( always through me off.. or a deterrent in my cranium as it frightened me ( the layman..

Nowadays my understanding of what that may actually look like …

Is a place to experiment (Plasma and vacuum or pressure….and matter and magnetic fields .
AC
I like this approach and I see it’s a place you have always favored…

Indeed, I always found it a little strange that many seem to focus on the worst examples of free energy. Oh look, another youtube video with no useful information which could move the conversation forward.

I tend to look at the best examples of FE which have some credibility and common features. T.H.Moray and Correa's work are nearly identical technologies and the best examples imo. In the Correa's article, https://rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm, look at section #4 references. It's a who is who of the best plasma research on the planet. These aren't some weekend warriors making video's these are people who have dedicated their lives to finding answers.

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Verpies	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #128 on: 2026-04-02, 17:21:52 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4856	Correa is great but the vacuum and glass blowing always scared me off.

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #129 on: 2026-04-02, 20:49:21 »

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Quote from: Verpies on 2026-04-02, 17:21:52

Correa is great but the vacuum and glass blowing always scared me off.

I remember years ago playing with evacuated fluorescent tubes ,having spent many years running demolition jobs In NYC ,I was good at ( sort of neatly) removing the end to evacuate the tubes( whack/boom) and from there it’s a little soap and water and a nice little torch to soften /melt the ends ..
Also other glass tubes and epoxy ( sealed with glass piping installed ) are probably a good method .
It’s just that the failed flourescent tubes are free and …
There free !!
Always wanted to get better at utilizing glass for tubes and experiments

PS
Marco if you’re still around please reach out !
In the old days Marco was a big part of this forums TPU heritage (IMO)
Although a bit feisty…( a sideways compliment in NYC)
He posted a vid of an older Frenchman hand building radio tubes ..completely from scratch!!
Absolutely incredible..and perhaps relevant …to future vacuum tube experiments ? ( gotta look for that vid

Respectfully
Chet
Pps
In my quest to find the old Frenchman’s tube building vid ( from Marco)
I found Marco’s dancing magnets ( although it’s someone else’s repost of Marco’s work ..still amazing to watch…( imo)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mUJza3l8rmU
Still looking for scratch built glass tube builder
Edit
Here the Vid Marco had shared on glass tubes from scratch
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyXMEpq4qw

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #130 on: 2026-04-03, 11:01:25 »

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Quote from: Allcanadian on 2026-04-02, 15:33:46

Let's start with credibility...

P.N.Correa, MSc, PhD & A.N. Correa, HBA. This guy seems to be an expert in damn near everything including glass blowing his own discharge tubes. His friend, Arthur A. Axelrad MD, PhD, FRSC, Emeritus University Professor, University of Toronto witnessed the technology working and was very impressed.

As well the work is brilliant, impeccable showing detailed drawings including circuit diagrams and graphing all of the variables in detail. For those who can actually read they spell out the exact criteria needed to produce the effect and the mechanism for gain.

We could also note the mention of T.H.Morays work which is almost identical.
https://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm

Moray was not some quack and demonstrated a circuit in a small wooden box with an output of 20,000 watts. Not some minor anomaly, not a small measurement error. Only a fool would think 20 kW of power from a device demonstrated on a table in the middle of nowhere is a measurement error imo.

Pulsed abnormal glow discharge does not have to be produced in a vacuum.

As some may know I have worked with DBD for years, first starting with manipulating gases within the discharge. "creating syn gas".

Of course DBD is used every day in molecular manipulation, the wetting of products for greater adhesion etc.

There is more that meets the eye when you delve into it and use extreamly fast switching across a special capacitance within a circuit. The glow discharge has some special properties when manipulated correctly.

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Mike

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chief kolbacict

Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #131 on: 2026-04-04, 08:23:08 »

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Quote from: Verpies on 2026-04-01, 14:52:16

Net energy (out − electrical in) +32.2 kJ
Effective COP 1.18

Where does this additional energy come from ?
Will planet Earth become lighter with every joule gained?

Verpies	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #132 on: 2026-04-04, 08:49:19 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4856	Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2026-04-04, 08:23:08 Where does this additional energy come from ? I tabulated the energy inputs and outputs in my post and mentioned sources.

chief kolbacict	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #133 on: 2026-04-04, 15:38:24 »
Sr. Member Posts: 436	Quote from: Verpies on 2026-04-04, 08:49:19 I tabulated the energy inputs and outputs in my post and mentioned sources. If this uses the Archimedes force, plus an increase in volume with a decrease in water pressure, plus the removal of heat from the ocean, for an even greater increase in the volume of gas, then I believe this is how the ROSH generator works.

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #134 on: 2026-04-04, 17:16:01 »

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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2026-04-04, 15:38:24

If this uses the Archimedes force, plus an increase in volume with a decrease in water pressure,
plus the removal of heat from the ocean, for an even greater increase in the volume of gas,..

It uses all of these.

Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2026-04-04, 15:38:24

...then I believe this is how the ROSH generator works.

How does the Rosh get the gas to the bottom ?

chief kolbacict	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #135 on: 2026-04-07, 18:03:13 »
Sr. Member Posts: 436	Quote from: Verpies on 2026-04-04, 17:16:01 How does the Rosh get the gas to the bottom ? I don't know.

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #136 on: 2026-04-07, 19:37:11 »

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348919904_Rosch_innovation_perpetual_motion_machine_physical_phenomena_responsible_for_the_operation_and_its_perspectives
There were videos and much fanfare..

Seems controversy was surrounding their claims ( trickery?)

member Evolving ape had a deep water system /concept
with Bladders and HHO production at bottom ….filling /expanding
To drive power generation and also utilize gas at top ( rinse/repeat)

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #137 on: 2026-04-08, 15:54:01 »

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Quote from: Chet K on 2026-04-07, 19:37:11

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348919904_Rosch_innovation_perpetual_motion_machine_physical_phenomena_responsible_for_the_operation_and_its_perspectives
There were videos and much fanfare..

Seems controversy was surrounding their claims ( trickery?)

member Evolving ape had a deep water system /concept
with Bladders and HHO production at bottom ….filling /expanding
To drive power generation and also utilize gas at top ( rinse/repeat)

I found near impossible problems can have quite simple solutions, this video explains the process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTgrWmOk4q8
Solving Impossible Problems for Fun and Profit | Dan Gelbart

In the Rosch device the whole problem revolves around getting air into the bottom of the tank. Most would think of a compressor however the piston is always acting against the highest water pressure at the bottom of the tank. The water pressure acting on the area of the piston times the distance the piston moves against the pressure is the input work it must perform. Do you see the problem?, everyone is trying to use an air pumping system we already know cannot work. Ergo, it must be something else.

The next logical question should be are there other ways to move air into the tank which do not always act directly against the highest water pressure?.

There could be one solution which relates to a similar problem. The Russians wanted to build a fast torpedo but the water friction always slows it down. Their solution was to have the torpedo move through air under water. So they installed a high pressure air tank which sprays very small air bubbles in front of the torpedo so it runs through air not dense water. A prop would cavitate in the air bubbles so they used a rocket motor instead. This is a good example of working around a supposedly impossible problem.

As Viktor Schauberger explained, a piston pump is the most primitive form of pump because it always acts directly against the pressure of the thing it's trying to pump. While Schaubergers devices always acted indirectly which requires less input energy.

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Verpies	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #138 on: 2026-04-08, 18:15:31 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4856	Quote from: Allcanadian on 2026-04-08, 15:54:01 In the Rosch device the whole problem revolves around getting air into the bottom of the tank. Most would think of a compressor... Maybe the gas is not air ...and that gas is not compressed/pumped from the surface to the bottom.

chief kolbacict	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #139 on: 2026-04-09, 08:16:36 »
Sr. Member Posts: 436	Quote from: Chet K on 2026-04-07, 19:37:11 Seems controversy was surrounding their claims ( trickery?) If we see that the column temperature is lower than the ambient temperature, the probability of deception will be significantly less.

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #140 on: 2026-04-09, 20:56:03 »

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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2026-04-09, 08:16:36

If we see that the column temperature is lower than the ambient temperature, the probability of deception will be significantly less.

Chief
I remember there was a demonstration of ROSCH tech in Germany
And Stefan went 6-7 years ago ?? ( or someone he knew went) and there were indicators that placed suspicion on self running claims ( secret source of input??)

Personally
My belief that Rob’s ( member Evolvingape) concept utilizing deep water electrolysis and buoyancy ( he also had a detonation “post” electrolysis/ram pump …which pumped water to amazing head height )
To also use gas production as commodity or power source at surface..

Rob (EvolvingApe) is a very smart fellow
Another who I hope stops in and says hello…

We definitely need options for alternative energies…
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Yes the temperature “Delta” in device would be good for calculations and analysis of systems.
PPS
Obviously AC has also mentioned avenues worthy of attention on this topic !

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #141 on: 2026-05-07, 16:47:19 »

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I found the most common question the critics ask is why nobody can seem to reproduce the effects claimed. I mean, if FE is so simple then why haven't millions of other people discovered it?. It's an interesting problem and not what most think.

The problem is the majority of all these FE inventors did not follow other people they followed nature. They did not study what other people say and think they studied nature. So while many of these devices may look the same as our devices they do not act the same. It's kind of funny if we think about it and the critic would say, "my science will not allow this to happen", and they are correct because the device does not use their science but something else.

For example, we use straight lines but none are found in nature because straight forms are weak and curved forms strong. We whirl magnets past coils of wire to move some electrons but literally nowhere in nature do we see this. We generate large currents which wastes much of the energy as heat where most things in nature run cool. We consume in excess and generate waste to the point it becomes suicidal where nature is about balance. It's no wonder nobody has figured out how these devices work and they have learned nothing from nature. The proof is that 99% of people do the opposite of nature always acting against it.

For example, Viktor Schauberger invented a biological impeller which circulates water using 90% less energy than a propeller shown below. So why do people still use propellers?, do they not understand energy or how things actually work in nature?. How is it that an Austrian forester could invent an impeller that makes every other engineer and scientist look completely incompetent?. Viktor Schauberger didn't listen to other people he studied nature. As well, Schauberger predicted our world would continue to degenerate and become so polluted it would be uninhabitable. He nailed it imo, 20 years ago I thought nobody could be this stupid, we know better. I was wrong...

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Magluvin	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #142 on: 2026-05-08, 15:29:42 »
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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #143 on: 2026-05-08, 16:18:56 »

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Quote from: Allcanadian on 2026-05-07, 16:47:19

We whirl magnets past coils of wire to move some electrons but literally nowhere in nature do we see this. We generate large currents which wastes much of the energy as heat where most things in nature run cool.

Magma doesn't run cool.
The planet's core has large currents flowing in it. The core is hot. This current generates the magnetic field which causes Aurora Borealis and Australis with hot charged particles from the sun and the Lorentz force.
These phenomena are not man-made ...that probably means "natural" in your vernacular.

chief kolbacict	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #144 on: 2026-05-09, 10:39:44 »
Sr. Member Posts: 436	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitzur%E2%80%93Vaidman_bomb_tester Can we use this principle to make, for example, an ideal microphone that does not introduce distortion into sound vibrations?

Verpies	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #145 on: 2026-05-10, 01:32:11 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4856	Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2026-05-09, 10:39:44 Can we use this principle to make, for example, an ideal microphone that does not introduce distortion into sound vibrations? What if we can ?

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #146 on: 2026-05-10, 18:58:04 »

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Quote from: Allcanadian on 2026-05-07, 16:47:19

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We generate large currents which wastes much of the energy as heat where most things in nature run cool.

Allow me a brief philosophical digression. Nothing in nature is “cool” except what's right on your doorstep. Obviously, because what's on your doorstep has to be compatible with life—otherwise, you wouldn't exist. In China, would you conclude that nearly 100% of the Earth's population is Chinese based on what you observe right there on your doorstep?
The sun, supernovas, black holes—aren’t they “Nature”? Are they “cool”? And as for life, what we see of “Nature” is what hasn’t been eliminated due to maladaptation; I wouldn’t call that cool.
We can obviously take some ideas from nature, but humanity’s strength lies, on the contrary, in culture and the artificial—both technical and artistic. Nature didn’t even invent the wheel. And if our planes flapped their wings like birds, I think it would take us a long time to cross the Atlantic.
We transcend nature even though we are part of it as an animal species. Nature is very poor model and a constant danger; the more we transcend it, the more we control it, the better we understand it, and the better off we’ll be. First step: write it with a lowercase “n.”

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chief kolbacict	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #147 on: 2026-05-15, 17:02:20 »
Sr. Member Posts: 436	Quote from: Verpies on 2026-05-10, 01:32:11 What if we can ? Then it will be good. If we begin to rotate ferromagnetic core inside fixed coil, what happens ? Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... core.jpg (111.31 kB, 1240x1537 - viewed 34 times.)

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Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #148 on: 2026-05-15, 19:14:39 »

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Quote from: Verpies on 2026-05-10, 01:32:11

What if we can ?

The Earth's vibration (7.83Hz or multiples there of)

How does a stylus pick up the vibrations on a record disk (magnetically).

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Magluvin	Re: Free energy is easy, ask an intelligent question... « Reply #149 on: 2026-05-16, 01:14:10 »
Group: Mad Scientist Hero Member Posts: 1241	Quote from: Centraflow on 2026-05-15, 19:14:39 The Earth's vibration (7.83Hz or multiples there of) How does a stylus pick up the vibrations on a record disk (magnetically). so this earth vibration... is it mechanical, physical? Or is it the earth mag field that is vibrating? mags