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Author Topic: Discussion about acquiring high permeability ferrites for plasma experiments  (Read 144 times)
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Here some suggestions for sourcing such materials .
**Topic under construction while information is added on some suggested vendors.••
   

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Buy me some coffee
Ok passing a message on from Mark via Chet

You can see model FN200 has a permeability of 2000 and its spells out the other characteristics see attached image.

this is a webpage you can use to send enquiries to over 300 manufacturers and the drawing you sent would be good to show them
https://www.made-in-china.com/quality-china-product/productSearch?word=ferrite+rod+u2000&bv_id=1jvkn8ouba5e&pbv_id=
They all speak great english
My people in China do not specialize in Magnetic materials but are willing to help one to identify the supplier that meets your needs
There are thousands of suppliers not just 300
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thanks for posting that information from Mark Dansie ,
Below is screenshot of the spec sheet/information (CMD5005) from one vendor I contacted at Verpies suggestion in US

So CMD5005 are the specs we are aiming for as we find sources in Marks links !
Here the complete spec sheet on one alternative ferrite .

Page 04 has the overview of their ferrites

Page 15 has the specifics on this FN200 ferrite ( mentioned in previous post.)

https://ferrite.ru/upload/iblock/056/zeeewjiglt6szh3gb20r2tw16tje8a16/New%20Catalog%20of%20Careful.pdf

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Chet K
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these materials are for the spider core experiments which Itsu has started to build and we need some high permeability ferrite components to complete .
A dedicated thread for this will be hosted in itsu’s bench.

   

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...and we need some high permeability ferrite components to complete .
High permeability is desirable but so is the lack of degradation of this permeability at higher frequencies.
Also, in order to carve out a monolithic spider shape without air-gaps requires a huge chunk of ferrite.  The maximum manufactured chunk size (before they cut it up) is an information that only the OEMs know and it is very hard to come by.
   
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Also, in order to carve out a monolithic spider shape without air-gaps requires a huge chunk of ferrite.  The maximum manufactured chunk size (before they cut it up) is an information that only the OEMs know and it is very hard to come by.
Verpies,
Hopefully this coming week will show a path towards these OEM’s…so as to get some quotes on a monolithic chunk appropriate to the task .
Mark D gives the impression there are many more than the link he forwarded !

What would be a good size for the spider core blank ?
And should we consider submitting a spider core rendering … for a quote on finished monolithic core ?

At the moment this center core piece is on the list .
And toroid size for arms ( prior to machining)

To note above is for possibility of building on a budget ( as Itsu has started) , and also there was mention of soft iron .03 mm(?) Enameled wire,
Bundled to the required spider core shape ?( for cost savings and getting more access to experimenters.

   

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What would be a good size for the spider core blank ?
A 6" cube.

And should we consider submitting a spider core rendering … for a quote on finished monolithic core ?
We could but it would raise some eyebrows.

At the moment this center core piece is on the list .
And toroid size for arms ( prior to machining)
Yes because it is easier to obtain.

To note above is for possibility of building on a budget ( as Itsu has started) , and also there was mention of soft iron .03 mm(?) Enameled wire,
Bundled to the required spider core shape ?( for cost savings and getting more access to experimenters.
Yes, a bundled enameled fine iron wire would be the poor man's substitute for a ferrite.
   

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metglass makes a tape or say bendable strips. make a plan and form a spider core with it. 

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https://metglas.com/magnetic-materials/

the cost of having to make such a core via machining and cost of materials, this plus time to cut and configure i would say it could be a great core.

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