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Author Topic: Harvest BEMF/CEMF with a transformer, diodes, capacitors; going to a battery...  (Read 6686 times)
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This is a concept presentation that will also remain as a future personal reference of the concept.  It "sticks" to the top of the page all the time for that reason.  When I have more time, money and freedom, I'll bring more attention to this thread.
       Members can always comment if they wish.

Everyone,
to begin, take a look at this:

http://energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4622-switching-coil-spark-gap-make-radiant.html
(look at Reply #9, page 1)









Later REEDIT:

http://www.scene.org/~esa/merlib/radiant_energy_antenna_system.pdf

The Energetic Forum reference was possibly changed in the last 2 yrs.   This site above can attempt to replace that site.

LATER RE-EDIT:
       Be advised that this post was removed from the host site.   The antenna system isn't there as a post.
This does exist:

https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=576&q=radiant+antenna&oq=radiant+antenna&gs_l=img.3..0i24k1.2519.8168.0.8382.17.13.1.3.3.0.170.834.12j1.13.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.17.839...0j0i30k1j0i8i30k1j0i5i30k1.1273ve4gpJQ

Best I can do now.

--Lee







Now, for certain modifications to this circuit above:

1a) Use three(3) line power transformers rated for 120VAC @ 60HZ, for standard American power mains.
1b) Keep one conventionally forward and begin with 12 VAC on the secondary.
1c) Take the other two in reverse and in series on the secondaries as well as the primaries, and connect the secondaries to give 24 VAC on the primaries.
1d) Connect two rechargable 12 VDC batteries to the 24 V primaries.

2) Take out the spark gap in the original, corrected last drawing on the Internet post cited above, and replace it with a Zener diode(s) for 24 V.  (This will mitigate EMI caused by the spark gap.  The capacitors will then dump a charge to the batterie(s).)

3) Wire up to three(3) capacitors in parallel(I'm using Radio Shack 35V, 4700mmF, axial electrolytic), between the Zeners and the 24 V output of the transformers.

4) Connect the rest of the diodes as shown.

5) Lastly, connect a 12 V battery to the drawing's input and then run wires to one of the batteries to charge both from the batteries' output, as well as recharge the start battery as an ongoing electrical effort.  (Feedback effect.)

Note:
This is a concept presentation to also remain as a future reference.
I may not get to testing this concept immediately, however, any Member can comment on whatever he/she wants to.

The 'Web address cited above does actually work when I invoke it with a mouse-click.

I'll try and draw an ascii diagram later when I have more time.
Next Experiment:
Use a 12V Zener to harvest the BEMF on a transformer secondary to recharge a battery out of a set on the other side of the core (a toroid would be ideal).  I'll have to draw the circuit in acsii again, so bear with me.

Reedit:
Well, I've downloaded a couple of Internet pages the have schematic drawings of what I'm thinking.  They'll give you a beginning concept.  They're on my thumb drive under names that have nothing to do with the Internet, so I'll get the e-address(es) later when there's more time on this computer.

--Lee

Reedit, 28 Jun '11:     Added last paragraph as an update.
Reedit, 12 Sept, '11:  Rearranged text and replaced all caps with lower case lettering.  Made this thread a "sticky" archive to return to later when I had more time and money.
Reedit, 17 Aug, 16:    Announced that a reference post on another site didn't exist now, and uploaded a suggested page on Google Images, instead.
« Last Edit: 2016-08-17, 19:22:23 by the_big_m_in_ok »
   
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Okay, I have something at last to demonstate what I'm getting at...
Start with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TjxV3c7pTo

Harvesting back EMF/radiant energy/aether/etc. is what these circuits will be trying to accomplish.  So far, I haven't been to an auto parts store, since I don't own a car.  Radio Shack parts will have to do for now.

When I have enough parts to begin experimentation, I'll be more descriptive in that regard.

This post is an ongoing archival and informative testing resource, especially for the low voltage beginner like me.  Money is tight, so the pace of work will necessarily be slow.

You can post whatever you've done at any time.  Further Internet citations may be posted by me in the future.

--Lee

 
   
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Okay, I have something at last to demonstate what I'm getting at...
Start with these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TjxV3c7pTo
(Harvesting back EMF/radiant energy/aether/etc. is what these circuits will be trying to accomplish.  So far, I haven't been to an auto parts store, since I don't own a car.  Radio Shack parts will have to do for now.)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1868.15  Reply #9, pg. 2
(This one is pretty simple, and there are others on the Internet to refer to as well.)

When I have enough parts to begin experimentation, I'll be more descriptive in that regard.

This post is an ongoing archival and informative testing resource, especially for the low voltage beginner like me.  Money is tight, so the pace of work will necessarily be slow.

You can post whatever you've done at any time.
Further Internet citations may be posted by me in the future.

--Lee


Reedit, 30 Jun '11:  Added the second OU.com thread reference.
Reedit, 25 Nov '11:  Spelling correction & minor text editing. + rearrange this text to bottom of pg.
« Last Edit: 2011-11-25, 21:04:07 by the_big_m_in_ok »
   
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Reedit:
Well, I've downloaded a couple of Internet pages the have schematic drawings of what I'm thinking.  They'll give you a beginning concept.  They're on my thumb drive under names that have nothing to do with the Internet, so I'll get the e-address(es) later when there's more time on this computer.
Well, I'll continue with a discussion of the posted EnergeticForum thread entry in the original post.  When I hand-redrew the bottom drawing of the EnergeticForum #9 post, on the 1st page of that thread, I finally understood what the circuit was supposed to do. 
       Looking at a printout of the bottom circuit and the one above it now(I recommend you print one out for yourself to follow along with), I see that adding the diode to the bottom of the output section does indeed give a short circuit to the coil so that the HV spikes don't hit the negative side of the charge battery.  Like the researcher who posted the thread reply said.
       Still, the charge battery could actually be shown precisely in series with the run battery instead of being implied in series below the bottom of the input transformer coil.  That way, both sides of the input coil are acting as positive and negative rails to the step-up output as they interact with the transformer core.  (That output should be 3000-3500 VAC to provide a spark to collapse the magnetic field(s) of the transformer coils---although EMI from those sparking arcs can 'blitz' your TV and radio reception; not to mention unwelcome GOVT attention in your experiments.  A Faraday cage would help in that regard.

Now, the original drawings didn't show any start-up, input power connection to begin operation.  Rectifying mains AC and applying it temporarily to the positive and negative sides of the battery would work.  Or, if one has the means, a HV AC waveform can be applied to the top and bottom of the output coil.  Just enough voltage to start an arc and begin charging the dead battery for a few seconds.  Whichever is easiest.

I've got enough .450mA wall-rated transformers for about 2400VAC from the enter to the side of a 6VAC CT transformer.  I still need 7-9 more like it.  Then I'll safely have 3,600+ volts.  And I should get more 1N4007's for use as HV strings(they're widely available and not too costly).

That's where I stand now.  I'll get paid OCT. 1st and then see what I can do for parts.

I can repost a reedited update to this entry rather than add another.  You merely need to check the thread occasionally.

--Lee
   
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