Banning ltseung888?

[Chef]

Somebody please make a poll, should we ban ltseung888 from the forum or not? I'm really interested in what others think about his nonsense posts. (usually in locked topic)

This is not a personal blog site, there are rules, which he clearly don't follow. If EMdevices had to stop talking about this bullshit Flat earth story, why Tseung can do what he is doing?

[Grumage]

Somebody please make a poll, should we ban ltseung888 from the forum or not? I'm really interested in what others think about his nonsense posts. (usually in locked topic)

This is not a personal blog site, there are rules, which he clearly don't follow. If EMdevices had to stop talking about this bullshit Flat earth story, why Tseung can do what he is doing?

Dear Chef.

I'm a firm believer in " Live and let live " !! 

EM devices wasn't banned, as far as I'm aware, just asked to be a little less liberal with his profanities towards other members.

Just my two penneth......

Cheers Grum.

[Chet K]

Poynt made Lawrence an offer many moons ago
a "send me something which proves your concept and I will test it for free " offer

not sure what happened with that ...but I also live by "live and let live" ..

however...some fellows have mentioned how the flat earth movement may have roots in discrediting
these types of forums so as to make the whole bunch look like "nutters" or fairy huggers...

and that being said I'm not saying EMdevices is anything of the sort.

just one mans opinion....

[Kator01]

well Chet,

I just looked it up and my impression is that he simply posts things from other people and of course its total useless to post a link of an alleged  chinese scientist who is speaking chinese in an english forum ?? !!

I think its all worthless, using up db-space and stealing time to read all that stuff only to discover ... its all less valuable.

If I would be the owner of this forum I would ask him to provide proof about the physics of the Fung wheel within a month else delete the topic.
If he tries again to repeat this sort of behaviour I would ban him because you made the key point here:

"however...some fellows have mentioned how the flat earth movement may have roots in discrediting
these types of forums so as to make the whole bunch look like "nutters" or fairy huggers..."

regards
Mike

[Smudge]

I occasionally read his posts with amusement to see what nonsense he comes up with next.  First came across him on the Steorn forum.  If we wish to ban him for taking up valuable bandwidth we should also consider banning evolvingape .

Incidentally, I "invented" a thrust motor working on an imbalance of centrifugal forces (greater rotation velocity on one side compared to the other) back around 1960.  Even got the model shop to build one.  It used a sliding arm rotating inside a cam profile.  It didn't work of course, and I soon found out why.  The mass has to accelerate or decelerate at the 90 degree points and the reaction to that acceleration/deceleration exactly counteracts the imbalance of centrifugal forces.  Even if that acceleration/deceleration is provided magnetically there is still that reaction.

Smudge

[giantkiller]

I gave it an honest chance. I spent years trying to glean nuggets. There were none.
To be brutely honest I see alot of lonely people strumming keyboards. The internet has become that orchestra.
His posts don't influence me and I do takes sides with the administration of this site from the standpoint of waste. Lock him out. Pdf his account and posts, then scrub. Since this site is free then the rules of capitalism have to be enacted. If it aint making or saving money or if wasting resources, kick it to the curb. But then has there been anything new under the sun from anybody? I think not. #Rehash tag is the new mantra. The big explosion has happened years ago. Now there is a new breed peddling uphill until their 'Ah ha' moment. If anybody has been at this for more the 6 years then they haven't found anything yet. But then this is just my corporate, sociopath side speaking.
He who pours the oil controls the machine.

[evolvingape]

If we wish to ban him for taking up valuable bandwidth we should also consider banning evolvingape .

Yes you should, and everyone else on the forum who uses 'any bandwidth', including you. Hence no communication, no forum.. 

[Peterae]

Bandwidth & Disk Space is actually free with this hosting account LOL

I like EMDevices but the flat earth theory is so far out whether true or not, we were getting complaints, i found the thread interesting though, but unfortunately i don't think it was doing anyone any favours including EMdevices.

I have at times thought about banning myself but i am not sure that would help anyone. 

[evolvingape]

I have at times thought about banning myself but i am not sure that would help anyone. 

Ah the good old self banning! .99 has said he self banned from energetic, and I have self banned from energetic and ou.. maybe there are other self banners around..

It seems the objection to Lawrence stems from lack of credibility and the potential to use that as a weapon to harm the reputation of the forum. A long running PsyOp ?

[Verpies]

Bandwidth & Disk Space is actually free with this hosting account LOL

Do they support Python and Postgresql?

[Verpies]

I'm a firm believer in " Live and let live " !! 

So am I, but I would like to see feedback buttons next to each post.  YouTube has Like/Dislike buttons and FB has one, too.
On this forum I would like several buttons for technical accuracy, AdHominem/potty mouth, logical fallacies, etc...  and bar graphs to indicate the score to date for each.

EM devices wasn't banned, as far as I'm aware, just asked to be a little less liberal with his profanities towards other members.

IMO summary judgement is unscientific.  Even the seemingly ridiculous ideas should be given consideration...all according to the scientific method of course.

[Grumage]

Dear Verpies.

As usual, some witty and humorous one liners.   

I have a few videos up on YT , but seem to suffer the aptly named " drive by " thumbs down " syndrome. Recently a guy commented on a video with very bad language I rejected his comments and lo, a barrage of thumbs down across the board!!

I have no problem with this but, would prefer the dislikes to tell me why, not be spineless hiding behind their anonymity.

Cheers Grum.

[evolvingape]

In some cases are feedback buttons a form of summary judgement ?

Summary judgment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summary_judgment

In law, a summary judgment (also judgment as a matter of law) is a judgment entered by a court for one party and against another party summarily, i.e., without a full trial. Such a judgment may be issued on the merits of an entire case, or on discrete issues in that case.

In the case of Lawrence Tseung the defendant refuses to engage virtually all cases put to him, and when engaged moves his position making reason an impossible cause to pursue.

Lawrence cannot therefore be judged by a full trial, necessitating summary judgement to bring about closure of the event.

Shall we dance..

[ltseung888]

Reproduced from overunity.com

One comment:

If you can use gravitational energy continuously, you are effectively tapping into the essence of the Universe.  The entire universe has masses of different sizes.  They attract each other.  We, the Earth, the Sun are all attracted by other bodies from all sides.  We are effectively immersed in a sea of gravitational forces.  We are being pulled from all sides.  If the pull on one side is greater, the force can do work or provide energy.

What you are claiming is that the Milkovic 2SO can already use such energy.  UFO technology is not all that difficult.  The seesaw action of the Milkovic 2SO brings the unbalanced forces and energy into the system.  If the pendulum is replaced by an unbalanced wheel, the efficiency will be much higher.

If gravitational energy can be utilized this way, magnetic or electromagnetic energy can be brought in via magnetic pendulums or unbalanced magnetic wheels.

If it is this simple, why are we not seeing products...

*****

If you read Patrick Kelly's e-book, you would find hundreds if not thousands of free energy inventions.

If you follow Sterling Allan's website, you would get information on dozens of free energy inventions.

My experience tells me that the ones trying to stop the commercialization of such inventions are the most powerful Governments - USA and China.  Both have the UFO technology.  Many UFOs are man-made.

Both Governments can stop any invention from commercialization.  All they need to do is to tell the inventors that the technology is of national security and offer some deals.  My experience was that the 225 HP Pulse Motor or the Tsinghua Energy Multiplier could have been developed for the Market over 10 years ago.  Instead, China developed the Nanjing UFO.

The Oil Cartel knows it and that is why the oil prices have dropped drastically.

My gut feel is that some small Nation will announce the UFO technology first...

*** If you read reply 545, you will find that Tesla Motors is selling the Powerwall.  That is a form of lead-out energy.  Apache Ong learned and improved the FLEET technology.

[ltseung888]

The Lee-Tseung nonsense?

Since Lee Cheung Kin passed away, I include his name here so that I would not be accused of stealing his credit.  The Lee-Tseung nonsense include:

1.  We are immersed in a sea of energy.  These energies include gravitational, electromagnetic and bombardment by air molecules on Earth.
2.  These forces and energies will still be surrounding an object even if we manage to cool the object to absolute zero degrees.  Some people call such energy zero point energy.
3.  If we can lead-out or bring-in such energies into a system, the system does not need conventional fuel.  Such a system is NOT the impossible perpetual motion machine.
4.  The water rocket can bring-in kinetic energy of air molecules as it is cooler after firing.  The apparent Input energy is the pumping energy.  The Real Input Energy is the sum of the pumping energy plus the kinetic energy of air molecules.
5.  The Milkovic 2SO can bring-in gravitational energy as can be seen in the RHEAD video 5.
6.  The pendulum can be replaced by an unbalanced wheel as in the Chan Wheel with much increased efficiency.
7.  If gravitational energy can be brought-in in such a technique, magnetic or electromagnetic energy must be able to be brought-in.  All we need to do is to replace the pendulum with a magnet and place other permanent magnets to provide the appropriate magnetic field.
8.  In FLEET (Forever Lead-out Electromagnetic Energy Transformer), we can bring-in electromagnetic energy via LCR type circuit resonance.  Apache Ong learned and improved it.  He now works for Tesla Motors.  The Powerwall product is a result.
9.  Lead-out electrical energy can be seen from the waveforms of an oscilloscope.  The Input can be 5V DC.  The BEMF spike can be over -580V across the coil.  The current (voltage across a one ohm resistor) can still be positive.  The product gives negative power.  During the spike of around 2ms, negative energy is clearly seen and measureable.
10.  The Fung wheel placed horizontally will not lead-out gravitational energy.  This can be confirmed by experiment.  The Fung Wheel is an unbalanced Wheel.
11.  The ninth design of the lead-out energy flying saucer will provide a net thrust as a result of the difference in centrifugal forces.
12.  The 225 HP Pulse motor developed in USA and funded by Hong Kong is real.  It can use both lead-out gravitational and electromagnetic energies.
13.  The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier is also real and uses both lead-out gravitational and electromagnetic energies.
14.  USA and Chinese Governments (and may be others) developed man-made UFOs.
15.  The UFO technology can wipe out all existing war planes, missiles and star war defenses.  Thus the free energy and UFO technologies are not allowed to be developed commercially.
16.  The inventors or supporters are being silenced in many ways.  However, the patent offices allowed some "impossible" perpetual motion machine patents.
17.  The Oil Cartel have seen working prototypes and allowed the price of oil to drop.
18.  The rise of the lead-out energy flying saucer or UFO technology is inevitable.  The World Leaders must rethink their strategies.
19.  Our "nonsense" strategy is Love Thy Enemies and turn them into Brothers and Sisters.
20.  The Goal of Tseung is to ensure that the knowledge is passed on.  There is no point to carry it into the grave.

[evolvingape]

Lawrence,

I don't give a shit.

[Kator01]

evolvingape,

not even a fly-shit ?

Mike

[evolvingape]

not even a fly-shit ?

Seems we can never get away from scaling in our positions!

Lawrences UFO conspiracy at this point is pseudoscientific.. (and I am being generous there), his Fung Wheel is an attempt at scientific credibility (with loadsa emotional strings attached!) and should be tolerated.. even though a great many other minds think a single frame of reference is doomed to failure.

That being said, I don't really give a shit, as there are much more important things demanding my attention.

[evolvingape]

ltseung888

Date Registered:
    2011-01-10, 17:19:50

[ronee]

ltseung888

Date Registered:
    2011-01-10, 17:19:50

Ah yes, kill the messenger. But what if the earth is flat? All the evidence that a thinking person requires is right in plain sight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgxBTrmIhU

Ron

[Chef]

Ah yes, kill the messenger. But what if the earth is flat? All the evidence that a thinking person requires is right in plain sight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgxBTrmIhU

Ron

Ever heard of the mysterious field we live in, called gravity?

[evolvingape]

Ah yes, kill the messenger.

Two posts in baby.. and you mention assassination, as a response to my post of Lawrence's easily available data. 

Are you threatening me ?

How did you get into this forum ? Who sponsored you ?

[ronee]

Two posts in baby.. and you mention assassination, as a response to my post of Lawrence's easily available data. 

Are you threatening me ?

How did you get into this forum ? Who sponsored you ?

LOL, I just used the last post "quote"   What I was replying to was a summary of the  negative posts about Lawrence.

My mistake I had no idea your post was a positive post defending Lawrence.

Ron

[evolvingape]

LOL, I just used the last post "quote"

Very clever that was..

What I was replying to was a summary of the  negative posts about Lawrence.

Lawrence has far more negative support than positive, the majority of the positive can be influenced by a decent education in physics.

My mistake I had no idea your post was a positive post defending Lawrence.

It wasn't..

My post was Lawrence's data on when he joined the forum, allowing readers to easily discern where he is now and how long it has taken him to get there, on this forum.

There was no polarity implied to the data by me, only by you.

How did you get into this forum ? Who sponsored you ?

These questions are still valid.

[ronee]

My mistake I had no idea your post was a positive post defending Lawrence.

Ron

In reading this thread and the reason it was started was ... Lawrence bringing the message of the flat earth has been taken as sacrilege.

So ban (kill) the messenger was my understanding  of this thread.

Did you view the Video I posted? Was that a threat to you? Tell me about it.

However, if we look intelligently at Lawrence's message we should not be alarmed, rather a process of understanding should tale place. We have been taught that the sun is moving through space at 450 miles per hour while the earth is corkscrewing around it at 67,000 miles per hour yet if we go out each night there is Polaris in the same spot!  Can we not understand then, that these are two mutually exclusive statements?

Only one can be correct. As Oscam would suggest, with Polaris there every night the simplest answer is the earth is stationary. It could be a ball or it could be flat... but it is not moving.

Ron