Charging Batteries and Capacitors with Radiant Electricity

[NickZ]

  I have been charging both capacitors and batteries with my cement beach sand power cells.  They can be placed in series to get the needed voltage,  Both lead-acid batteries, as well as any capacitor that I've connect to them take the charges well.  I don't know, if this energy is coming from the Aether through a galvanic or non galvanic source, or what it is, but it is a constant output.  It acts like electricity, and can charge most anything connect to it, as well asthe cells taking in and storing (to a lesser degree) additional charge from solar panels, etz...

[giantkiller]

Nickz,
yesterday 2 pieces of knowledge came at me from different arenas that fit.  So I put them togther.
The Sun's output pounds the Van Allens belts and the ionosphere(a resonant cavity, but full of potential). I realized Tesla was talking about 'reading' this.
Well I saw the space between the Earth and the ionosphere as a bell of sorts and this translated directly to a capacitor's charge, an LC resonant field, a magnetic field and standing waves.
These things just happen at different places but the forces and vectors are the same. When under pressure this is a kinetic volume whether atmospheric, flux density, fluidic or potential. Probably not new but I am looking at the realm for similar processes that fit the model.

In regards to your sand cells:
If this charge relates to power extraction and not just the potential that shows up as radiant energy then you got something.
This equates to the reader coil of Tesla magnifying transmitter.

[NickZ]

   The cement cells can't be connected in parallel, although they will do fine in series. This is one of the reasons I'm looking into trying the Mg/Carbon cell that Lasersaber, Lidmotor, and others are working on now.  Their Mg/Carbon cells output 1 to 2 amps each.  Not mA.  And are a galvanic type of cell, that does not need to be charged, or recharged, unlike any other conventional galvanic batteries do. They are the strongest made so far.  And I'm hoping that they will connect in parallel to further increase the voltage.  I believe that they do. 
Lasersabers latest cell made just last week, is only 3/4" by 8" in size or so,  with a permanent output of 1.7 volts, and 1 amp.  His bigger cells give 1.5 to 2 amps each.  I don't remember all the details, but something like that. 
It wouldn't take too much space to make a battery pack of those cells and get 110 volts and a bunch of amps as well.  The main problem is the oxidation factor with those type cells but, they are trying to control or eliminate it,
so far it appears to be working, to a manageable degree.

[NickZ]

     @ Grumpy and All:
      The above mentioned cells can and do charge both caps and batteries, at not cost, and do so for a long time,  whether they are electrochemical, galvanic, petrovoltaic, or just normal electric current, who knows. But the prospect of having a sort of power supply (similar to using a solar panel) but using something like these cells that don't need sun, and don't run down either,  is what I'm working on now. 
   The idea of utilizing just voltage, and no current is intriging, if possible.  Especially without draining the source of that potential.  But I have not seen it done, yet.  I have heard talk of it, but not a device, or battery, or power supply of that sort.  Have you???

[the_big_m_in_ok]

...   The idea of utilizing just voltage, and no current is intriging, if possible.  Especially without draining the source of that potential.  But I have not seen it done, yet.  I have heard talk of it, but not a device, or battery, or power supply of that sort.  Have you???

Van de Graaf generator?  Lots of voltage and little current.  As an electrostatic charge, it won't even shock your nerves.
Edmund Scientific sells one for $499.00.  A discharge wand is $79.95 extra.

--Lee

[NickZ]

  Yes, thanks, but what I meant was a device that uses only voltage to produce electricity, or power electronics, tools, etz... not just make discharges into the air,  or to light leds, which even they need some current to give maximum intensity.

[muDped]

...what I meant was a device that uses only voltage to produce electricity,
or power electronics, tools, et[z]...     not just make discharges into the air,
or to light leds, which even they need some current to give maximum intensity.

Power which is produced by Voltage alone?

Is such a thing even possible?

[forest]

Power which is produced by Voltage alone?

Is such a thing even possible?

Yes,I believe it is perfectly possible with antenna.

[NickZ]

  The only thing that I've seen that is made to work by using only voltage and no current are leds, CFL, or florescent tubes.  Has anybody seen anything else that can be run on voltage only?  Is there any advantage?

[the_big_m_in_ok]

Yes,I believe it is perfectly possible with antenna.

Well, I was going to say, the radiant system of an antenna to a transformer, to a diode, to a battery will give you voltage without a lot of current, especially way outside of a large town with generating power stations mains.  You need a whole lot of co-ax cable as well.
That should give you voltage that'll charge a battery with.

--Lee

[Peterae]

Indeed it is possible
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=202.0

Ah just realized big_m already knows about the work i did here.

[the_big_m_in_ok]

Indeed it is possible
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=202.0

Ah just realized big_m already knows about the work i did here.

Yep, you bet.  If I had more time, money and freedom, I would do more work in that area.

--Lee

[NickZ]

  So, in that test 13 leds or so were able to light off of a capacitor.  How long does the cap last, or is that a permanent output? He does not mention what the current is doing.
   What I was referring to before was the question of trying to power anything on pure voltage potential, other than Leds, florescent tubes, CFL, etz, that we already know will light from mostly voltage.  What other practical uses are there for just voltage devices?  Can they be used to light our homes, and run our car, or recharge and maintain batteries? Or not?

[NickZ]

  What I have find is that when you charge a battery or a capacitor using only voltage,  the voltage will be transfered into the caps or batteries alright, but it won't have the current necessary to do anything, other than to light the above mentioned leds, cfls, etz... 
  Or do Tesla's electric car type projects, using an antenna, do so run on current also.  My feeling is that they do have current also, as it is difficult to have lots of voltage, and absolutely no current.  Maybe even impossible.
   On the other hand what is the difference between lighting a regular incandescent bulb using magnetic current, or lighting the bulb using just voltage? 

[MileHigh]

NickZ:

You might want to ask some of the others participating in this thread or elsewhere to educate you because your statements don't really make any sense.  I used to do that but have since stopped.

MileHigh

[muDped]

An antenna will intercept Radio Frequency Energy
which is propagating in space and develop both
voltage and current as a consequence.

With small circuits consisting of diodes, a capacitor
and an LED load, Radio Frequency energy can make it
appear as if "magic" is taking place.

Tesla's lectures included many such demonstrations
with evacuated globes and tubes within the near field
of his Radio Frequency generator; and occasionally
with a small electric motor as a load.

Wherever there is light or movement in response to
Radio Frequency stimulation, there must also be
voltage and current; no?

How would it be possible for Voltage alone to accomplish
any work?

[NickZ]

  Milehigh:
   Sorry my posts don't make sense to you, they are actually Grumpy questions from a few post back, maybe you can hash it out with him on it.  While I get educated...

[NickZ]

  Dumped:
  That is the question.  Is there also any advantage in using just voltage and no or low current as a source, and what would it power?  It may not be possible, but since it was suggested the you can run on voltage only, without draining the source, I thought that that was a worthwhile and interesting subject.
   I'm also not confused when I ask about magnetic current, and its similarities to just voltage.  I may be out in right field,  but...  it might be two aspects of the same thing.  Milehigh maybe you can educate us all.  If you're not too buzy.

[MileHigh]

Nick, I apologize, perhaps I shouldn't have commented.  There are many others here that might be interested in going over some of the issues with you.  I have stopped doing that.  Since I am here, there is no such thing as being able to make something light up, I think you used a CFL as an example, with voltage only.  Good luck.

[NickZ]

  Milehigh:
   No apologies needed.  Sorry to hear that you're not into it anymore.  But, while you're still here, I thank you for your opinion and reply, as I had said it was in answer to Grumpy's question posted a while back. I still think that it has value.

[Grumpy]

A time-dependent positive electric impulse produces a vector force towards the source.

What if you could reverse Lorentz Force Law (orthogonal force on a charged particle traveling in a magnetic field), apply a force in a magnetic field and induce a current?

[NickZ]

    Grumpy:
   Might this be something like what you are thinking about,  and the TPU people as well?
   Lasersaber does it again:
   http://www.youtube.com/user/lasersaber?ob=5#p/u/3/Cughym4y7Ow

[NickZ]

  Or is it just a April Fools Joke.  Doesn't look like it will fly though.

[Peterae]

Well he does say he feels a right fool LOL and it was filmed on Aril the 1st

[BEP]

He is very funny 

It should be easy to replicate. The only problem will be when people run the cord up their sleeve. Somebody will shock themselves