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if we count them as individual, a1, a2, c1, c2, then your not counting the b winding below that  circuit
 you should see 7.  remember the b winding wound with a and c.

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ok.so a1 and c1 do look to be on their own, connected at the ends. so 7 windings

the b transistor at the top.  1 leg is cut off at the top of the paper. trying to see what path it connects to do what it does. 

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I know.  It depends how they are grouped.
Some people treat bifilar/trifilar winding as two/three separate windings and ...some treat it as one component / winding.

   

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I know.  It depends how they are grouped.
Some people treat bifilar/trifilar winding as two/three separate windings and ...some treat it as one component / winding.

its just if a1 and a2 are 1 winding, center tapped and connected according to circuit, likewise with c1 and c2, then just one half of the second layer a1 and c1, over the 'core', will be covering half of the core in a shorted bifi condition like the core windings, except that b would be the 3rd wire wound with the a and c, supposedly the full length of the second layer wind.  this is very complicated....

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  I was in the group with Mike, have the schematics at the time. That seemed to change with the wind.
I am under his NDA so doubt he would like me to post things. I did up a sequencing circuit that did exactly
what he said and then he changed it. So I was back at square one again. Ask for help and got crickets.

Left for that reason.
   

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That seemed to change with the wind.
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I did up a sequencing circuit that did exactly what he said and then he changed it.
Why do you think he makes these changes ?
   
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  I was in the group with Mike, have the schematics at the time. That seemed to change with the wind.
I am under his NDA so doubt he would like me to post things. I did up a sequencing circuit that did exactly
what he said and then he changed it. So I was back at square one again. Ask for help and got crickets.

Left for that reason.

That's because Mike is something we call an "inventor".  I have the same defect as Mike does.

Think of it this way... give one man a potato peeler then ask him to improve it and he sees nothing other than that which is in front of him. Ask another man and he could talk for hours detailing the countless ways we could improve upon the process, this is an inventor.

Mike is an inventor like myself and our "potato peeler" if you will changes in design and action by the minute. By the time you emailed him and asked for an update the possible iterations could have changed countless times. When I was younger and brighter, my creative period, I got frustrated because as I was writing all my notes on the latest experiment I had 20 new ideas rendering the notes I was writing pointless. Why takes notes if what were writing is obsolete?, so I stopped taking notes and burned them all to great satisfaction. The fact is, if when working on something if the possible number of variations or ideas doesn't start snowballing on us we are no inventor we are a follower.

Ask yourself this question, if you were making an obscene amount of progress on a daily basis and everything is changing by the minute what would you think of someone asking questions about some process you had already moved past weeks ago?. I mean it's in the past and already rendered obsolete, do we give the person we suppose to help now obsolete information or wait?, what would you do?.

It begs the ultimate question of how much progress we make per unit of time?. At the end of each day I ask myself how much progress was made?. Not money that's BS, anyone can make money. I mean the progress of science, an idea or technology. To improve something to a better state in which we found it. Personally I feel like shit unless some kind of improvement on some level is made in a day. It's not an ego thing it's a being useful and feeling good about ourselves thing...


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That's because Mike is something we call an "inventor".  I have the same defect as Mike does.

Think of it this way... give one man a potato peeler then ask him to improve it and he sees nothing other than that which is in front of him. Ask another man and he could talk for hours detailing the countless ways we could improve upon the process, this is an inventor.

Mike is an inventor like myself and our "potato peeler" if you will changes in design and action by the minute. By the time you emailed him and asked for an update the possible iterations could have changed countless times. When I was younger and brighter, my creative period, I got frustrated because as I was writing all my notes on the latest experiment I had 20 new ideas rendering the notes I was writing pointless. Why takes notes if what were writing is obsolete?, so I stopped taking notes and burned them all to great satisfaction. The fact is, if when working on something if the possible number of variations or ideas doesn't start snowballing on us we are no inventor we are a follower.

Ask yourself this question, if you were making an obscene amount of progress on a daily basis and everything is changing by the minute what would you think of someone asking questions about some process you had already moved past weeks ago?. I mean it's in the past and already rendered obsolete, do we give the person we suppose to help now obsolete information or wait?, what would you do?.

It begs the ultimate question of how much progress we make per unit of time?. At the end of each day I ask myself how much progress was made?. Not money that's BS, anyone can make money. I mean the progress of science, an idea or technology. To improve something to a better state in which we found it. Personally I feel like shit unless some kind of improvement on some level is made in a day. It's not an ego thing it's a being useful and feeling good about ourselves thing...

Thank you Don.

Yes we both have the same problem but over the years we use it to our advantage.

For example :- I found out how you can run a car on water, I thought I knew before I actually got my hands on the orginal material, it then confirmed my thoughts.
The funny thing is all previous "OU" inventions all work on the same basis which was found by Tesla and patented but under a coverup name of a transformer. Yes it was there infront of us all this time.
I do not supply a complete kit of material and construction drawings, neither did Tesla, but there it is.
Floyd was the other who used the same.
All are variants to produce excess energy from the same base.

So where does the energy come from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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So where does the energy come from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By overwhelming the countering force (lenz) with the same derived spin direction, which in turn forces equilibrium to see itself as the force that needs countering.

What's the difference between a magnet and an electromagnet? You can wind an electromagnet in both directions...
   

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"By overwhelming the countering force (lenz) with the same derived spin direction"

can you elaborate on that?  ^-^

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"By overwhelming the countering force (lenz) with the same derived spin direction"

can you elaborate on that?  ^-^

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Give it more lenz..... it can only be one of two wiring directions to counter a known coil and polarity. Lenz shrinks, but adding the same field, Lenz grows... awkward situation for equilibrium.
   

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give it more lenz.....

by adding more drive coils?

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give it more lenz.....

by adding more drive coils?

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Not necessarily more, just redirecting the field of say a CCW coil into a CW coil. The caveat is the CW coil you want to fill up with CCW spin must be lower resistance if all the coils are equal, otherwise the equal resistance between counterwound coils yields very little. You can solve that problem with series and parallel connections to get a resistance bias between the two.

For example: 2 CCW coils connected in series, 2 CW coils connected in parallel - join the two together (inner winding to inner, outer winding to outer) and induce all coils equally. Wrap an output winding over all 4 coils. You are forcing the CW coil who already has a natural lenz in play that shrinks, to now have a 'lenz' that is growing as well. This shrinking/growing at the same time can be see on the beach - water from the wave flowing across the sand, while water is also flowing from the sand back to the ocean as the wave recedes - that ripple that sits on top of the two waves moving in two directions is our free energy. This is a simple example, but underpins any OU device.

The TPU still gets hot because there is no feedback, i.e. he is pulsing independant of the output, so despite being OU, he still had Lenz nipping at his heels.
   

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when you say spin...   what is your description of that? 
i have my own ideas on that, but just want to know what your thinking is in your post as to what it does.



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when you say spin...   what is your description of that? 
i have my own ideas on that, but just want to know what your thinking is in your post as to what it does.

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I believe that 'lenz' has been mis-characterised as resistance. I think that resistance is an opposite field closing the gate everytime we try to open it. We've been tricked into thinking the North is both rise and fall back to zero for 1/2 a wavelength, when it is actually a South field that is shrinking back to zero because that is it's job.

I think the field rotates, and the reason you can't detect it is because this 'opposite field' is spinning the opposite direction and cancelling perceived motion from the outside, all as part of its function. This all gets exposed when moving from magnets to counterwound coils.

EM field in a coil must equalise, and that equalisation doesn't care if it has to be at 180° to do it. If you can get that to happen and can sustain it, the electrons in the wire are drawn in and pulled out, instead of the two resistant to change steps that we currently call lenz.
   

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" We've been tricked into thinking the North is both rise and fall back to zero for 1/2 a wavelength, when it is actually a South field that is shrinking back to zero because that is it's job."

i have to disagree here...   if we energize a coil and build a magnetic field, and then de energize, at first the expanding field cuts other windings on the way outward. that expansion and cutting create opposition to input until the current has reached max along with the mag field reaching max. then when you de energize, that collapsing field cuts the windings again but now, say left on expansion and right on collapse. inducing a current that is in the same direction as was the input current.
 
if what you say were true, that the field flips from N on expansion and S on collapse, then the collapse would also induce a reverse current in reference to input currents, of which doesnt happen. like passing a wire with a N pole mag to the left and then passing a S mag to the right.  both will induce current in the wire in the same direction.

people get the BEMF as to mean a reverse current on collapse. "capture back emf" :-\.  temporary opposition to input. bemf only happens during input and build up of current and magnetic field. CEMF is that self induced current that opposes the input till max and max.  people at OU years ago had me believing that the collapse currents were reverse of the input currents. i have several switching power supply books. close examination of different simple buck or boost circuits and what happens each cycle will show that i am correct. put one on the bench. i am correct.  so now i have a very good understanding of the ins and outs of induction and mutual induction.

when you fully understand the collapsing field is the same polarity as the expanding field, unless maybe at zero crossing after collapse you will see a reversal, and know the direction of the cutting of the windings of a particular N or S polarity, it will stick with you.

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"I think the field rotates, and the reason you can't detect it is because this 'opposite field' is spinning the opposite direction and cancelling perceived motion from the outside, all as part of its function. This all gets exposed when moving from magnets to counterwound coils."

i think electrons have their own magnetic field that encircles the say, equator of the electron. not necessarily spinning, but say a disk of  field. that field is how i see a reason the electron interacts with other magnetic fields.  just my theory.

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if what you say were true, that the field flips from N on expansion and S on collapse, then the collapse would also induce a reverse current in reference to input currents, of which doesnt happen. like passing a wire with a N pole mag to the left and then passing a S mag to the right.  both will induce current in the wire in the same direction.


To clarify, I believe both fields North and South are operating at both ends of the magnet. I think N and S work together to grow and shrink, so it's not so much flipping, but handing off to the other polarity. It's this N and S working together that needs to be decoupled.
   

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To clarify, I believe both fields North and South are operating at both ends of the magnet. I think N and S work together to grow and shrink, so it's not so much flipping, but handing off to the other polarity. It's this N and S working together that needs to be decoupled.

agreed.  they are both one and the same depending on point of reference.  look into the face of a N pole of a magnet, then look out from the face out is S.

I dont think there is any difference between the N and S as in strength or other characteristics. 


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For once I can see a meaningful discussion for once.

Lenz is involved.

Which is faster moving, an electric field or a magnetic field.

In a normal transformer the core is iron or "ferrite", the primary coil induces a changing magnetic field into the core which then induces into the secondary.

Dropping a magnet down a copper tube produces an equal opposing field (Lenz), is there a "delay" in the returning field? Maybe you do not see the delay because the tube is thousands of shorted loops joined together?

If those shorted loops were just two parallel independant loops which each has a charge, one positive and one negative, will that make a directional difference to a returning field (think perpendicular).

If those charges are oscillating at a frequency of MHz!!!!!!

I think I have given you enough to think about.
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To measure a propagation delay, we need a signal which, when it crosses a threshold in either direction, triggers the start and stop of the stopwatch.
In the quasi-stationary regime – that is, in any region where the wavelengths associated with the signals are considerably longer than the dimensions of the system – the variation in the signal is far too slow; at two different points, the signal is virtually the same, making it impossible to take a measurement by detecting a threshold.
As for doing so without a threshold, simply by observing a phase delay, the result is incorrect because, once the regime is established, it is a steady state resulting from an incident signal superimposed on the signals it induces or that are reflected, so that one can no longer speak of the departure and arrival of a single signal.

Whilst it is easy to measure the delay of a signal of several MHz in a 10-metre cable, as each half-cycle produces a pulse, it is virtually impossible to do so with a 1 kHz signal, whose slope will be virtually constant at every point unless the cable is several kilometres to tens of kilometres long.
The commonly held belief that, because the signal is square-wave even at 1 kHz, there is a sharp edge allowing a delay to be distinguished, is equally false. Even if we did not have standing waves – which requires the utmost experimental care, particularly for a spread-spectrum signal such as a square wave – the measurement taken will be of the propagation time of the high-frequency component – for example, the 2000–2 MHz harmonic – and we will know nothing about the speed of the 1 kHz component, which is certainly different. Not only do permeability and permittivity influence the propagation speed and are generally frequency-dependent, but the path taken will also differ; for example, a high-frequency component may pass through a coil via a capacitive effect, without following the wire.

Even less measurable would be the action/reaction time associated with a magnet falling into a tube, given that the magnetic field varies extremely slowly over time. The magnetic field created by the variation in the magnet’s flux within the tube is felt almost instantaneously by the magnet itself, which continues its path whilst immersed in the field resulting from the superposition of the two, his own and that of the reaction. In any case, a delay does not alter Lenz’s law. If there is propagation, it is because energy is carried along step by step, for example in a ferromagnetic circuit, with action and reaction occurring with the medium at every moment and at every point.




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