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  I never thought this would happen here, with only 146 members and good protocols in place, most members having been known for many years as well as moderation and good house rules, to have 2 hidden trolls, and who knows how many more are lurking among us, was not even a consideration in my mind.  I expected it at OU.com with their thousands of users who nobody knows, but here?  My mind was wrapped around my experimental projects and other building and testing projects with others, in other words my work.  I felt safe and secure here, and even nurtured at times.  We didn't all think alike but I see that as a good thing.  If everyone believed the same way and we all acted alike, dressed alike,talked alike, and lived alike what a dull and boring existence that would be.  Nothing new or different or surprising would ever happen or come up in conversation.  We would talk about the same things over and over ad nauseum.  So I see differences as a good thing healthy even.

Having differences is one thing but when those differences become malicious that is another.  Trolls and Schills don't care about any of that though, they only care about their agenda whatever that agenda may be.  It is no longer about differences it is about accomplishing a task.  With trolls shills and hacks it is about imposing their agenda on their hapless victims.  To do this they use every trick they can come up with to lie, deceive and try to change the conversation or in other words to impose their agenda on us.  They modify posts, they set and bait traps to catch the unwary, and then to malign, discredit and besmirch their target, they try to distract and mislead you, change topics and eventually to shut down and close the threads they don't want around, with their BS.  Their malicious agenda is served!  We have seen this over and over from one site to another, and many times the same characters are involved.

  Well they struck at me right here at OUR in the 'Keeping up with technology' thread and many of you have been witness to this fact.  They tried to malign and discredit me, tag teamed me using their great psychology, called me the bad man here and attacked me in my own thread.  Now I do look like I was the bad guy jumping on poor old AC who is just trying to make a contribution to this forum, when it was specifically set up to target me and take my thread out.  Well now you have to ask yourself if there was a fight here, where?, it has all been modified or 'toned down' to cover up their trolling.  Many of you who were reading there know what I say is true.

They then took things over to my thread where they tried to mislead and misdirect it until they both came out and threatened me with physical harm if I continued with it.  I am the working man experimenting, building and sharing it with everyone, I don't need or deserve to be physically threatened by the likes of these two characters and be driven out of this site.  And it is quite interesting that I was driven out of OU.com when I posted the same information 10 years ago on that site, I waited 10 years to post this information again and almost immediately am attacked again.  On a bigger user site like OU.com it is harder to tell who the bad actors are, but not here, it is obvious.

Being nothing is going to be done to them, they will be here to keep you all company for a lot more time.  Do you feel safer now and more likely to share your hard work, time, and money with the world???  I sure don't! so I will be leaving this forum until such time as it is safe.  I suggest you pay attention to my thread 'Tunable Large Signal Receiver'  as evidently it is hitting to close to home for someones comfort, meaning it must be on the right track!

If you combine the rapid rotation of this 2 phase driven device with Smudges paper posted on page 4 'On Electro-magnetic Inertia 2' there may be a path there for a new form of propulsion (similar to a UFO) and maybe anti-gravity.  The poles probably need to be driven by a Mhz range signal unless the device is quite large (30 to 50 feet dia.) which will keep it to 100's of Khz to reach rotational speeds close or beyond that of light, the eventual goal of my thread.

I have enjoyed being here and working with the good people of OUR it's too bad there are always rotten apples in every barrel.  I think the brain power  here is awesome!  Thank you to everyone who stood with me and may a break through come for us all!

Farewell
God Bless and
Merry Christmas
Room3327
« Last Edit: 2019-12-04, 18:54:45 by Room3327 »


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That is the best post i have ever seen in any public forum .

Thank you Room ...is not enough.
   

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Thank you so much Room. Really sorry to see you go. I was unaware my posts had been deleted.  Always happy to chat via email.
   
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Room we've had one or two tiff's (sure why not?) having said that I'm awful sad to see you pulling the plug . I feel I learned a lot at your hands (even if I bristled a bit at the time)
The reasons you give for leaving are cause for concern too. Unauthorised editing or deleting of members posts if true – not good  at all.
As pointed out in the thread 'free energy circus' these guys have to be here its their job to infiltrate and control.
Regardless.
There are but 146 of us – If we can't sort that into a working configuration IMHO all is lost.
The usual call of 'free energy to help humanity' isn't really how the powers that be view things . Their view of humanity is basically there's far to much of it cheap clean energy isn't on the agenda - they will breed more is their thinking!



anyway Room its my fervent hope we can resolve ourselves  to your satisfaction and see your return
Merry Christmas and
au revoir mon ami


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How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ?
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whilst we know little .. friends remember,
In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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They tried to malign and discredit me now all deleted from the 'Keeping up with technology'
thread which is no longer the same thread.

I had not been aware of any postings being deleted from the thread.  This sounds very
strange.

I never delete or modify postings as I see no reason to do so.  I do occasionally correct
broken links but never alter or modify any message.  If this in fact has been going on I
have no answer to this apparent dilemma.

For my own postings, I often add new thoughts or material but do not delete anything
said previously.

Room, you've made it very clear that something has 'gotten under your skin,' so to speak.
It would be helpful if you would clarify what it has been, specifically, that has had such a
profound effect.

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anyway Room its my fervent hope we can resolve ourselves  to your satisfaction and
see your return

Merry Christmas and

au revoir mon ami

I'm in complete agreement and could not have said it any better.


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First, I wish to thank you, Room, for your help to me in months past.  It is remembered and was a big boost as I approached publication of my books on Amazon.   

So sorry about the ill-treatment you received.

  I'm hoping, with you, that a breakthrough in Freedom Energy will take place in the next year, as I described in my latest book - indeed, the Title is "Freedom Energy Breakthrough By 2021! "

Thanks again, friend. 

  I also want thank Chet for providing encouragement to me and you.  Chet is a sort of "Glue" that seems to keep us going despite opposition.
   

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If mudped had edited any posts using his moderation rights then they get logged, he has only done that once to correct a broken link with response to a post made by smudge, so mudped is correct in saying he has not altered Rooms posts.

I cannot explain what's happened, all deleted post go into a folder where only me and poynt can access and I cannot find any deleted posts from that thread.

Chet, 3Dmagnetics did your posts get deleted from that thread?
   

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I had not been aware of any postings being deleted from the thread.  This sounds very
strange.

I never delete or modify postings as I see no reason to do so.  I do occasionally correct
broken links but never alter or modify any message.  If this in fact has been going on I
have no answer to this apparent dilemma.

For my own postings, I often add new thoughts or material but do not delete anything
said previously.

Room, you've made it very clear that something has 'gotten under your skin,' so to speak.
It would be helpful if you would clarify what it has been, specifically, that has had such a
profound effect.

I'm in complete agreement and could not have said it any better.

OK I went back and looked again and I do owe you an apology for deleting posts and I am sorry, I only see many modified posts mainly by AC your thread doesn't read the same anymore, but I am sorry I accused you of deleting posts, but by your own admission you do modify posts.  And it could be that AC was toning it down as he told Darren, Maybe that's why the thread looks and sounds so different and It does look more like I started it. LOL  But you both tag teamed me with some kind of agenda, in your thread, and then came to my thread to distract, mislead and eventually to threaten me with physical harm to my well being if I continued.  If you didn't mean any of that then maybe you shouldn't bait traps and and try to discredit people and use your great psychology on them, maybe you shouldn't use words like you did to convey an idea, they sounded very threatening, maybe this isn't the place for you and your partner AC, maybe you would both be very happy somewhere else.
  I hope you and everyone else can see the picture here,  I will clean up my statement above to reflect my apology to you, and I would also like to apologize to Peter and Darren for any trouble I caused them and those I named above as having their posts deleted, the only excuse I have is it was late and I misread a PM to me then did a quick search and then jumped to the wrong conclusion, I apologize to everyone for my blunder. :-[

Regards
Room


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Thankyou for clarifying Room, I was worried there was a glitch in the forum reporting system.
   
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You were right and I do modify my posts after to correct spelling mistakes or if a word or phrase sounds out of place. However it is not a conspiracy it is a matter of good grammar which I feel is very important.

I also say some things which tend to get people going because I would like to hear their honest opinion and not some watered down version of it. Yes it is psychology and it is to learn and I am sincere in wanting to learn what people really think about everything. It is not a conspiracy against anyone more so wanting to know the truth about everything.

Free Energy, science and life in general are like that and sometimes I read things into stuff which is not present, sometimes I follow wild goose chases which seem rational at the time but later were misguided. The trick I have found is to take a step back, take a good look around, don't take it too personally and proceed onward.

I don't know why people think I conspire against them but I will tell you this, if you think I have done you or others wrong then I do apologize sincerely.

On a side note Chet and some others believe your a good experimenter and have something to offer the Free Energy community. If this is true then maybe we could start a thread and do something real beyond much of the fluff we tend to see here. I have no problem working with you or anyone else and we have a common goal.

Regards



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