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OK,both yours and Grumpy's links go to the same thread,where poynt only made two post's which contain no information or ideas at all  ???

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Okay Brad, fair enough, I should have clarified that they were interesting to me from a historical perspective. I have been trying to recreate the historical timeline of events in the  attempt to discover if there are discrepancies in the story. It is part of a 13 year exhaustive study, and every little piece is important (to me) logged and memorized.

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A bit more history involving Sandgropers Brad http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00000563.htm
   
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A bit more history involving Sandgropers Brad http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00000563.htm

I'm familiar with that clip. Maybe Lindsay will come forward and tell the story of why he later reversed his opinion of SM. We know of Brians character as inventor / con man.

If you read all the posts in that thread regarding the device, you can see that the guys at Keelynet are soooo confused. Not that Jerry Decker and the boys there are so straight up either.


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A bit more history involving Sandgropers Brad http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00000563.htm

Hey,this bloke is just up the road.
Think we can track him down?
If so,im going to pay him a visit.


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A bit more history involving Sandgropers Brad http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00000563.htm

Hey,i remember when this motor came out.
This collins bloke is no small fry.

http://rexresearch.com/collins/collins.htm

I need to find this man.  O0

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Hey,i remember when this motor came out.
This collins bloke is no small fry.

http://rexresearch.com/collins/collins.htm

I need to find this man.  O0

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AFAIK he is deceased. He claims to be the inventor of the TPU, which I highly and seriously doubt. LM knows more.

From BC:
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'My commitment to God when he saved my life and showed me the vision of
a new way of generating electricity was real and I have endeavoured to
bring it to fruition from that day.

If you really want to know what BC was about watch the hour long sales pitch he makes to two investors, and listen carefully.

It's after the first 7:39 of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo

BC is the guy on the left when the video first opens.

At 7:39 he is seated on the left and does the sales pitch.

How the Russian "joseph4younow" got a copy of this video when no one in the states or anywhere else that I know of had a copy is interesting. It did not surface until 2012.

BTW here is GK's 2014 video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36RGonC_Zgs
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It is interesting to note that SM says the technology was in development for 20 years.

Does that agree with the discovery being made while exploring spatial aspects of audio speakers? (the delayed bifilar pulse)

While history is interesting, it doesn't bring us closer to the goal.

Where are the rotating field experiments or demonstrations? 

SM clearly stated that TPU's have a rotating field and that it is required.

   
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While history is interesting, it doesn't bring us closer to the goal.

Understanding the history enables one to begin looking under the right rocks. This should bring one closer to the goal.

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Where are the rotating field experiments or demonstrations?

Some are show and tell types, others work in private and will show when they have something worthwhile.


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Understanding the history enables one to begin looking under the right rocks. This should bring one closer to the goal.
He already told everyone which rocks to look under.

Some are show and tell types, others work in private and will show when they have something worthwhile.
I bet there are only about 3 people on this forum who have developed a rotating electric field that does not use the 90 phasing method.

Of these three, all of my stuff is packed in boxes in my cellar, and I have no bench to work on at the moment, not even a space on a table.

You do not feel you have anything worthwhile to share.

The third person isn't sharing his build,and I don't blame him at all.

Everyone else is spinning there wheels, and wasting their years.  Pages and pages of discussion, rediscussion, over and over and over.  I love to talk about it so I am guilty of this along with everyone else.

SM stated that Tesla's RE effect was the secret (when Tao posted it) and that rotation was required.  It doesn't take a religious leap of faith to develop that RE effect into a rotating field.


   

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He already told everyone which rocks to look under.
I bet there are only about 3 people on this forum who have developed a rotating electric field that does not use the 90 phasing method.

Of these three, all of my stuff is packed in boxes in my cellar, and I have no bench to work on at the moment, not even a space on a table.

You do not feel you have anything worthwhile to share.

The third person isn't sharing his build,and I don't blame him at all.

Everyone else is spinning there wheels, and wasting their years.  Pages and pages of discussion, rediscussion, over and over and over.  I love to talk about it so I am guilty of this along with everyone else.

SM stated that Tesla's RE effect was the secret (when Tao posted it) and that rotation was required.  It doesn't take a religious leap of faith to develop that RE effect into a rotating field.

Thanks for the advice O0 O0


But to speak in analogy again, imagine trying to describe the dynamics of a modern jet turbine to a population is still getting used to building steam engines. ???

I think it is more an engineering challenge than a conceptual one.  Everyone is designing their own injectors, turbine blades, sizes and shapes.  Because of the numerous variables (ie: points-of-failure), most cannot get their turbines spinning fast enough to generate useful thrust.

I think we'll see more success when more of the necessary component parts are standardized.  It will remove many of the engineering challenges facing the potential replicator.  Most of us playing with MOSFETS and high-voltage tend to generate more smoke than power. :P


Is rotation absolutely necessary, or can we at least detect some measurable effects using single-core impulses?
If rotation is required, then do you think it's practical to get the required rotation using cymatics instead?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1H8f5DyBwc
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He already told everyone which rocks to look under.
I bet there are only about 3 people on this forum who have developed a rotating electric field that does not use the 90 phasing method.

Of these three, all of my stuff is packed in boxes in my cellar, and I have no bench to work on at the moment, not even a space on a table.

You do not feel you have anything worthwhile to share.

The third person isn't sharing his build,and I don't blame him at all.

Everyone else is spinning there wheels, and wasting their years.  Pages and pages of discussion, rediscussion, over and over and over.  I love to talk about it so I am guilty of this along with everyone else.

SM stated that Tesla's RE effect was the secret (when Tao posted it) and that rotation was required.  It doesn't take a religious leap of faith to develop that RE effect into a rotating field.


Without Tesla, Marconi would just be another public charlatan.


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I have a question to ask, where did the brown paper drawings come from and who drew them?

I am an investigating scientist and when things get confusing I stand back so as I can see the trees, not just the wood.

I also have points written on the wall, things that are, IMO, correct.

1.   All the TPU's shown must work on the same basis. Stupid to think each one works on a different principle.

2.   The small open TPU lighting 200w of lamps looks quite basic. The electronics equally must be basic because there is not a lot of covered space, so keep it simple.

3.   SM cut open and into pieces, a TPU with a jigsaw. To cut any iron wire would be very difficult with a jigsaw, even thin iron wire, but copper or aluminum are soft metals!!!

4.   DC with a hash output. I think that is misleading, need to think from where would the DC with hash come from with a load of coilsrunning at frequencies!!!!!!!!!!

5.   The coils around the loop are not big and if the "core" is not iron the inductance will be very small. Switching a small inductance will need a very short on cycle and at a reasonably high frequency or you will blow mosfets. You could use a charging choke as part of these coils, CMC's !!!!!

6.   What do the coils do with such a low inductance? Maybe they are not just coils, and if wound over copper or aluminum wires or "frame in the open TPU", their capacitance is greater than their inductance.

7.   The kick, what is the kick that is talked about, and the example of the jump lead across a battery. I must admit that got me for a while until recently, you have to think of all the power hitting in one place, the frequencies hitting in one place. I think SM used a spectrum analyser much more than a scope after all his job was sound and he saw this buildup and the final kick with a power gain.

I can go on and on, but I think I have made my point, you need to take each question and try to answer it before moving on to the next. You need to be logical with your answers, you do not need stun guns etc the toroid produces it's own HV through IMO accelerated charge and why it takes a few seconds to build up.

IMO the large TPU with two CMC's is two units in one, SM removed the output stage so as he could have a direct RF type capacitive discharge, it was not DC.

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SM cut open and into pieces, a TPU with a jigsaw. To cut any iron wire would be very difficult with a jigsaw, even thin iron wire, but copper or aluminum are soft metals!!!
Do not be deceived. These were just props for the distraction. I have always pushed for the deliberate distraction because that would be the way out for SM if he ever got questioned. In the California house he had a toy trainset on a circular track by the door. No other items except a dining room table and coffee table. Even the garage was empty. Clues abound.

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IMO the large TPU with two CMC's is two units in one, SM removed the output stage so as he could have a direct RF type capacitive discharge, it was not DC.
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I apologize to GK for quoting Grumpy's post #263 with (giphy.webp) which showed up on my screen as a blank with no content in WinXP running an earlier version of Firefox. I thought I was replying by quoting a blank as more of a question why it was blank, but now find that there was indeed content (giphy.webp) that was not visible to me for some reason. I will check this out using a different browser, to see if I can view the original content.

Has anyone else had this problem using Firefox?

edit: I can see the content (giphy.webp) using Google Chrome



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Hey,this bloke is just up the road.
Think we can track him down?
If so,im going to pay him a visit.


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Collins was no joke. His radial engine got a lot of kudos as I remember. Maybe this bloke is still around Brad. http://www.padrak.com/ine/SMARK.html
   
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The kicks produced by two transformers - what do you have here ? I think Closed loop is the answer...
The same thing  did Hubbard and Hendershot.
Kicks adds = voltage rise
voltage rise x the same current = acceleration = power


   
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The kicks produced by two transformers - what do you have here ? I think Closed loop is the answer...
The same thing  did Hubbard and Hendershot.
Kicks adds = voltage rise
voltage rise x the same current = acceleration = power
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I'm not sure what you mean by closed loop. Are you implying an internal feedback system, and perhaps a secondary shared by both transformers?
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Read my post #264 above


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I apologize to GK for quoting Grumpy's post #263 with (giphy.webp) which showed up on my screen as a blank with no content in WinXP running an earlier version of Firefox. I thought I was replying by quoting a blank as more of a question why it was blank, but now find that there was indeed content (giphy.webp) that was not visible to me for some reason. I will check this out using a different browser, to see if I can view the original content.

Has anyone else had this problem using Firefox?

edit: I can see the content (giphy.webp) using Google Chrome

I use xp still on a couple laptops and pc, but cant watch internet vids on YT and such, and updating my browser(comodo icedaragon firefox based) says no updates for xp version.  Maybe I need to try plain firefox..   On other laptops and pc I use win7 and use the prog GWX Control Panel to stop win 10 from downloading and installing, as that was a big problem a couple years back.  Windows 7 bugged me all the time to install win10 and come to find out, using GWX that microsoft already downloaded tons of gigs of Win10 without my consent.  GWX deletes all that and stops it all period.

Win7 is ok.  Im still an XP guy though, as long as it lasts ;)

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 Im still an XP guy though, as long as it lasts ;)

Mags

As am i Mags.
There has been no better OS.
Fast ,and reliable.
Now most viruses and worms have long forgotten about XP  O0


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I, on the other hand, am 99.9% Linux functional.

I do, however, have an old Canon Laser Printer which
is Windows Limited so have to, on occasion, boot up
Win 98 to print anything.  I don't ever go online with
Windows so it stays clean.  Without bloatware it is really
quite efficient.

WinXP and others of the same family are being kept alive
in ReactOS.
  It is free.
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The secondary does not influence primary then a lot of secondary primary secondary primary and closed loop and kicks adds ,voltage multiplication and a small initial current then the rotating field maybe somehow Hubbard did it with added output cores as both limiting (inductance) and output (large area - high factor transformation from HV)
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Win7 is ok.  Im still an XP guy though, as long as it lasts ;)
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Did you make it last longer with this hack ?


Im updated to service pack 3, but maybe your link can get me more.  Thanks  ;)

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