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Buy me some coffee
Well
here is something related to energy..... during intermission ..... perhaps someday to Free energy ?
Lanca did share this at Stefan's [somewhere]
Patent granted in 2018 ?

supposedly twice the power density of Neo's.. plug and play for existing manufacturing processes and a greener tech and much more ?

http://license.umn.edu/technologies/20120016_iron-nitride-permanent-magnet-alternative-to-rare-earth-and-neodymium-magnets

member floor mentioned this in his magnet experiment thread.

and while I'm at it ,google vacuum insulated panels VIP, seeing R values approaching 100 per inch and improving almost daily
imagine a day when you could set up a  house in the arctic or the sahara with hardly any environmental temperature support system.

that day was last week.......[yes a bit tongue in cheek ,but true

Wow,twice as strong as neo's,and made from very cheap material.

The Tesla motor vehicles power just doubled  ;D

So we can look forward to even smaller,more powerful DC motors  O0

Now all we need is cheap super conducting wire for the windings.  ;)


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Wow,twice as strong as neo's,and made from very cheap material.
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It's very interesting, but there's nothing new since the 2016 announcement. Not yet in the trade.


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we can make our own interest  O0

I will give a call to see whats up
   

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It is gratifying to see some new technology arise from the
Land of Lakes betwixt Canada and Iowa.

Here's the patent for the Iron Nitride material.

Some very interesting technical discussion.

Material specifications.  Apparently it is somewhat hazardous.

In time whatever problems there are will no doubt be resolved.
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I dunno.  Once again it looks like "all bark and no bite"
titillation.
  I suppose we'll have to wait breathlessly until
the "Next Level" is announced.

$3000.00 will buy a good amount of Solar Panels which
have proven themselves.  Or a mix of Panels and Batteries.

I dunno.  Noobs tend to make lots of promises.


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The discussion has turned to Batteries and how to properly
charge them for maximum useful lifetime.
  This is always a
very beneficial topic for discussion because much has been
learned about particularly, the Lead-Acid Battery in recent
years, regarding the problem of Sulfation and how to address
it.

As a Lead-Acid Battery discharges, either self-discharge while
not under load or while under load, the active materials in the
plates are converted to Lead Sulfate by means of the chemical
reactions.  The Negative plate which is Spongy Lead converts to
Lead Sulfate and the Positive plate which is Lead Dioxide also
converts to Lead Sulfate.  During this process of discharge the
Sulfuric Acid electrolyte becomes less and less concentrated as
the acid is "consumed" by its reaction with the plates.

While fresh the Lead Sulfate is amorphous or non-crystalline in
structure and is easily restored to Active Plate Material at the
respective plates and Sulfuric Acid to replenish electrolyte
concentration by the process of Charging the battery.
Lead Sulfate which has been in the plates for a longer period
of time will have begun to crystallize and thereby become "hardened."
Hard Sulfation which has crystallized is not easily converted back
into active plate materials and sulfuric acid when the battery is
charged.  A voltage considerably higher than the "Normal" charging
voltage is required to convert the crystallized sulfate back into
active plate materials and sulfuric acid.

A group of independent experimenters not associated or affiliated
with the battery industry have discovered an effective and completely
non-destructive, non-traditional method of converting hardened
sulfation to restore battery capacity which has been lost as a
consequence of residual sulfate buildup or Sulfation.

The "secret" is the application of very brief pulses of overvoltage to
the battery being restored or rejuvenated.  The pulses may range
from 10 microSeconds to 200 microSeconds at a very low duty cycle.
The pulse voltage should be a minimum of twice the normal battery
voltage for a 12 volt battery, or about 30 Volts, for a battery in
reasonably good condition.  If the battery is heavily sulfated with
very little acid remaining in the electrolyte the pulse amplitude
may have to be elevated to about 100 Volts in order to initiate
de-sulfation.  As the battery responds and its electrolyte acid
concentration increases the pulse amplitude will decrease
accordingly.

Bringing old, sulfated batteries back to Life is amazing stuff.
It is a fairly slow process which requires some patience as it
is very important to avoid stressing the battery by causing it
to heat.  There is much information about desulfation and
desulfator circuits on the web.  They're easy to build and are
also quite inexpensive.

One example of a unique desulfator design with discussion
which reveals some interesting specifics regarding the
process of sulfate reversal and the need for very sharp pulses.
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The capacity rating of the Lead-Acid Battery is rather flexible.
There is more capacity built into the battery than its rating
would seem to indicate.  This is done purposely to assure that
the battery provides sufficient capacity over its lifetime of
service where it will be subjected to less than ideal charging
processes.  It is well established, for example, that the automotive
battery charging system is incapable of fully charging a battery
to the extent that all Lead Sulfate is converted back into active
plate materials.  A small amount of Lead Sulfate will remain on
the plates with each charge cycle which will over time become
"hardened" due to crystallization and thereby gradually decrease
the capacity of the battery.  The built-in reserve capacity is designed
to assure that the battery continues to function reliably with adequate
capacity in spite of this eventuality.

It is possible, while the battery is new, to increase its capacity with
a properly applied charging algorithm
which is able to access the
built in overcapacity.  This capability may lead to the wrong conclusion
that the charging algorithm has produced some "magic" or that it has
resulted in the release of Free Energy with a COP > 1.0; a repetition of
numerous discharge/charge cycles utilizing the effective algorithm will
in time demonstrate that the increase in capacity reaches a peak which
is consistent with the purposely built-in over capacity of the battery.

While the Lead-Acid battery does indeed possess some incredible ability
to "bounce back" from deep discharge, it is at the same time quite fragile.
As the battery undergoes the chemical reactions of charging and discharging
the plates themselves physically expand and contract in size and mass.
The active materials in the plates are gradually dislodged by this expansion
and contraction which means that the plates lose material over their lifetime
which settles to the bottom of the battery as a mud.  This loss is accelerated
by the overcharging which is periodically performed to equalize the cells.

During the overcharge equalization cycle the battery electrolyzes the water
in its electrolyte to produce Hydrogen and Oxygen gases.  As the gas bubbles
are formed at the plates and release to rise to the surface, some erosion of
loose particles of the plates takes place and additional active material is
lost to add to the accumulation of mud at the bottom of the battery.

While this is going on it appears that the battery is "boiling" and some have
actually thought that it really is boiling and describe it as such.  It isn't actually
boiling but rather it is outgassing due to the electrolysis of water, although, if
not carefully monitored the equalization current if excessive could heat the
battery so much that it can indeed reach a true boiling temperature.  This
outcome must be avoided as it is very destructive to the battery and will
ruin it in short order.

It is for that reason the the Current Interrupt Algorithm, or Pulse Charging
Algorithm, is the best option.  Pulsing the battery with higher than normal
voltage pulses will accomplish the desired chemical reactions at the plates,
will desulfate the plates and will equalize the cells, all without excessive
outgassing or rise in battery temperature.  The useful life of the battery
can be extended to many times what is thought to be normal.

Is it possible to do this in an automobile?  Yes, it is.  Quite easily and
inexpensively too.


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http://www.r-charge.net/Free-Energy_ep_56.html

The Evil Tito posted this link at Stefan's today
it mentions Benitez , Matt and Dave claim their
work all points back to Benitez ?

others have claimed this Benitez patent does show OU results
not sure how they qualified or measured it ?


 
   
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