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I was just looking for an old post [my old Corona thread] and found Hoptoad had shared a link

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvHqXK_Hz79tjqRosK4tWYA

if you don't think appropriate for your topic I will remove.

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I was just looking for an old post [my old Corona thread] and found Hoptoad had shared a link

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvHqXK_Hz79tjqRosK4tWYA

Ah, you read my mind and the ThunderboltsProject is very relevant.

Logically, the universe is electric on it's most fundamental level because every particle has an electric field but not always a magnetic field per say. In fact most of my success could be attributed to the fact my primary focus and field of expertise was electric field phenomena. I basically ignored the magnetic field which most have become infatuated with and concentrated solely on the electric field.

It was also strange that the many electrical engineers and other professionals I spoke with have very little knowledge of electric field phenomena. As Victor Schauberger implied, we should do the opposite of what everyone else does. As such if everyone is concentrating on conduction and magnetic field effects we should do the opposite... study the electric field.

It is also interesting that the knowledge and application of electric field effects predates all other known technologies and cultures dating back to the first Sumerian civilizations around 3000 B.C. . https://www.history.com/news/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-ancient-sumerians. Many would like to erase our past and pretend these ancient cultures were simple barbarians however this could not be further from the truth.

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Several years ago Brian O'Leary was interviewed by Project
Camelot.
  Brian is a prominent researcher into the World of
Free Energy who has written several books on the subject.

The interview is fascinating, particularly in view of current events
and the growing realization that our World is governed by powers
who are determined to suppress all movement towards Free Energy.

Brian tells an incredible story about his travails in the World of Academia
and Private Industry with a tantalizing revelation regarding Black Projects.

Brian O'Leary is no longer with us but he shall be remembered.


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I drove into and through a few big north east cities in USA these last few days..one thing stood out to
me since my last visit a month or so back...when the Air was sooo clean from Quarantine...

no more clean air...[and it did look like an old horror movie with all the jobless walking about in masks and all the "for rent" signs and closed businesses...etc etc [and no children to be seen [fear?]
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Anyhow
Living down wind as you do from all that smog [even "weird emissions" ] to your west ??


how about we do something about that ??
or how about water ? to desalinate or purify ?

something for the "everyman" ?

Huh ?
perhaps a "special" teaching topic for that here ?
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Free energy anyone

It's strange so many have diverged from the fundamentals.

Man prefers to bore holes in the Earth and extract a filthy and toxic substance we call hydrocarbons then burn it producing toxic gasses and acid rain. Not only is it destructive and expensive but just plain old stupid. In nature the Sun produces large thermal gradients on Earth that move massive amounts of air which carry more energy than man can utilize. In nature the gravity from our moon lifts more water as tides than falls through our dams. Nature always does it better, faster and cheaper than mankind ever could.

I studied and researched all of Victor Schauberger's work for many years and he was on the right track in my opinion. He said to comprehend and copy nature, do the opposite of what mankind does. So while we burn stuff to generate heat and toxic gasses nature transforms ambient heat into kinetic energy through a cooling process. Heat is simply the internal motion of particles within matter and this motion can be transformed into an external motion we can utilize through the process Victor rediscovered.

In fact Schauberger, Tesla and many others were avid researchers like myself and found these technologies were utilized by the ancient Sumerians and Egyptians as well as many other cultures. Do you know how the ancient Egyptians cut there massive stones for projects like the pyramids so quickly and precisely?. In many area's we see circular cuts and markings like they were using a cutting wheel of some sort. So of course people made the mistake of thinking it was a primitive abrasive wheel like we use today. So the ancient cultures used a soft copper wheel to abrade or cut super hard rock like granite?, lmao. It is quite possibly the most lame excuse for an answer I have ever heard.

So how could they cut hard rock like granite with a soft copper disk?. It's easy and they used what was known and available to them at the time. They had an imitate knowledge of sound and vibrations as well as electricity however not as most here know it. So they built a large copper disk, bound at the center and probably hit is like a gong causing high frequency vibrations similar to what we know as ultrasound. While doing this they would also rub the disk with animals skins, fur or fabric to produce a very high surface charge of static electricity which broke down the stone and also repelled the dust/debris out of the cut. You see it wasn't simple abrasion like we use today because that's stupid and energy intensive and they were smarter than that because they followed nature. The soft copper disk didn't wear out like we would expect with abrasion because the disk didn't need to touch the stone. It was the high frequency electrostatic vibrations which caused the stone to break apart not abrasion.

The ancient technology was based on what they knew and was present at the time. Sound, vibrations and static electricity. The term electricity comes from the classical Latin electrum, amber, from the Greek ἤλεκτρον (elektron), amber. The ancient cultures understood static electricity very well because that is form of electricity nature utilizes not conduction which is only a means to discharge excessive voltage like lightning does.

If people want to learn something new large conduction currents and magnetism is not the answer. It's like flogging a dead horse and that is not how nature works. As Victor Schauberger implied ... it is unnatural and to be avoided.

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The Pyramids of Giza have long been a very great mystery.

Suppose that they are much, much older than most today
believe they are.  Going back to the time when Giants were
present upon the Earth.  Building the Great Pyramids would
have been an easy task for Men who may have been 12 to
15 feet tall.

There are numerous ancient remains of those tall Giants in
every Continent upon the Planet.  Some of their workmanship
remains in South America which is just as impressive as the
Pyramids of Giza.

We do not know what sort of Technology they may have had
in those times, but some Scientists are of the opinion that it
could have been as advanced as we have today.

One day we shall know for certain.  They may have been
Super-Human or Super-Natural with powerful abilities.

Is Atlantis a myth or did it really exist?


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There is new evidence to support the idea that all our religions were taken from stories of ancient Sumeria. However the Sumerians did not worship a God but "visitors from the heavens". Do you understand, not gods but other beings with advanced technology.

So it's kind of comical that all our current religions are based on a false premise. They are unknowingly worshipping alien beings which most don't even believe in, lol.



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In fact Schauberger, Tesla and many others were avid researchers like myself and found these technologies were utilized by the ancient Sumerians and Egyptians as well as many other cultures. Do you know how the ancient Egyptians cut there massive stones for projects like the pyramids so quickly and precisely?. In many area's we see circular cuts and markings like they were using a cutting wheel of some sort. So of course people made the mistake of thinking it was a primitive abrasive wheel like we use today. So the ancient cultures used a soft copper wheel to abrade or cut super hard rock like granite?, lmao. It is quite possibly the most lame excuse for an answer I have ever heard.

So how could they cut hard rock like granite with a soft copper disk?. It's easy and they used what was known and available to them at the time. They had an imitate knowledge of sound and vibrations as well as electricity however not as most here know it. So they built a large copper disk, bound at the center and probably hit is like a gong causing high frequency vibrations similar to what we know as ultrasound. While doing this they would also rub the disk with animals skins, fur or fabric to produce a very high surface charge of static electricity which broke down the stone and also repelled the dust/debris out of the cut. You see it wasn't simple abrasion like we use today because that's stupid and energy intensive and they were smarter than that because they followed nature. The soft copper disk didn't wear out like we would expect with abrasion because the disk didn't need to touch the stone. It was the high frequency electrostatic vibrations which caused the stone to break apart not abrasion.

The ancient technology was based on what they knew and was present at the time. Sound, vibrations and static electricity. The term electricity comes from the classical Latin electrum, amber, from the Greek ἤλεκτρον (elektron), amber. The ancient cultures understood static electricity very well because that is form of electricity nature utilizes not conduction which is only a means to discharge excessive voltage like lightning does.

If people want to learn something new large conduction currents and magnetism is not the answer. It's like flogging a dead horse and that is not how nature works. As Victor Schauberger implied ... it is unnatural and to be avoided.

Regards

If you are not already familiar with these, these are well worth the time. If nothing else you owe it to yourself to read the thread at Thunderbolts and watch episode 2.

This series titled ‘The Pyramid Code’ was a real eye opener. Especially episode #2.
The entire series:
https://youtu.be/yXRRnaJJ1aA?list=PLUcbvqD3aOMoRuicA5GZwCNZJzap3_FCU

Episode #2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7d-hjlU0O4

Years ago a couple of researchers actually deciphered and reproduced some of the ancient Egyptian technology,
Ancients Knowledge of EU revealed in Dendera Light discovery:
http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=14651 Read all the posts by Armand.

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The hieroglyphs spoke of the ‘day and night bulbs - drawing down the energy from the Sun’, and the ‘the lotus flower giving forth the sun of a new day’, and deities carrying sistrum/crotalums around the room delivering energy to the priestess’ in the chairs.

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Years ago a couple of researchers actually deciphered and reproduced some of the ancient Egyptian technology,
Ancients Knowledge of EU revealed in Dendera Light discovery:
http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=14651 Read all the posts by Armand.

Yes, I am familiar with the thunderbolts forum and that thread.

In fact, many of the Sumarian/Egyptian depictions are not simply symbolic but are actual devices. However the technology is so different from ours nobody had a clue what they were looking at. I built some of them as well as a smaller version of the Dendera Light after reading the thunderbolts thread.


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You mentioned sound and vibrations. Are you familiar with George Constantinescu (Gogu Constantinesco)? LancaIV posted about his torque converter over at OU, but what is most interesting is his work ‘Theory of wave transmission. A treatise on transmission of power by vibrations’ which can be found here: https://archive.org/stream/theoryofwavetran00consrich#page/n3/mode/2up

He gives an example on page 43 of a generator with a h.p. of 0.85 producing a hydromotive force of 5.1 h.p.

COP = 6 ?

He invented all kinds of devices based on his wave transmission including motors. Much more than just a torque converter.

All of his patents are listed here:
http://www.stefania-maracineanu.ro/mvstr-sm/GoguConstantinescu/03Inscrisuri/Brevete-R.html




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Do we have any "Sliders" in the group?

Sliders: People Who Cause Strange Electrical Phenomena

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Despite the name, Sliders phenomena are not limited to street lights only. Often folks who share your “ability”
can’t wear watches; they will stop working within a couple of days, regardless of how many new batteries are put in them.

They also affect other electrical appliances such as headlights and alternators in automotive vehicles, lights/light
bulbs and computers. Light bulbs may blow every time a “SLIder” touches a lamp or a light switch.

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Are you familiar with George Constantinescu (Gogu Constantinesco)?
He invented all kinds of devices based on his wave transmission including motors. Much more than just a torque converter.

All of his patents are listed here:
http://www.stefania-maracineanu.ro/mvstr-sm/GoguConstantinescu/03Inscrisuri/Brevete-R.html

Hello.I am Romanian , and I have never ever heard of George Constantinescu.
Stefania - Maracineanu is also Romanian name.

If he did invent a lot of this ....we are hitting the wall again guys , because it comes the question....""Why did his invention not surface ? ""

About the science of free energy...well..if I may  , my humble opinion ...

1.Voltage we get for free...Voltage is the numbers of turns...increase turns = increase voltage.
To get W ..we need I , current.  However we have seen in transformers that if we increase the voltage the current will decrease..
So if I were a betting man , I would try to make a device that amplifies current. But what is Current ? ..Where does it come from ?

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In science, it is good practice to verify theories by experiments and measurements, and to confront observations. Only then, when a consensus is reached on the reality of this knowledge, is it called a science.

In the free energy movement, for the last 30 years, we have been seeing smoky theories, and experiments that never prove free energy, not even anomalies in relation to known theories, only interpretations that they would be anomalies when a reasonable doubt disqualifies them.

When we look for free energy, we are not even using a scientific method, since we assume a priori its existence, whereas science is only about explaining what we observe, and we do not observe free energy.

All we can do is to consider that scientific knowledge is not complete and that there must be unknown phenomena. By trying to find anomalies in the experiments, we can hope that maybe there will be solutions for free or very cheap energy. But if we look for "free energy" from the beginning, we can be sure that we will see it everywhere when it will be nowhere, because we want to believe in it.

You should also know that the search for anomalies is all that the academic physicists are looking for, they too want a new physics, and among them there are exceptional minds and enormous experimental means. Don't think that these people would have their mind formatted by a dogmatic science. Their minds are at least as curious as ours. So the competition is tough, and for the moment they have largely proven that they have results. You don't send a probe around Jupiter without real science.
And real science, scientists are able to communicate it and make it available to engineers, so that everyone can build devices that work and that everyone can use.

If free energy is a science, where is the associated technology? You only see it on youtube!   C.C
Let's be modest. There is no science of free energy. In free energy, there is research, but research is not science and will never be science until it is demonstrated by a working technology.



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If free energy is a science, where is the associated technology?


As I see it, "Free Energy" is a concept, a theory - a subdivision of energy.

Technology and the scientific method are useful tools and/or knowledge structures. They are to be applied to all forms of study of energy, or for that matter, any intellectual enquiry.

I reckon the reason why so many FE workers are chasing their tails is that they are not using technological or scientific knowledge properly and have no knowledge of the scientific method.
   
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I reckon the reason why so many FE workers are chasing their tails is that they are not using technological or scientific knowledge properly and have no knowledge of the scientific method.

I agree.

But for me free energy is not even a theory. A theory, at least in science, is something that must be refutable in the sense of Karl Popper. FE is not rationally formulated, in operational terms. It is therefore not refutable, just like the Hindu "theory" of reincarnation. It is a utopian dream, and there are many more delusional and unrealistic utopias than feasible ones.


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I agree.

But for me free energy is not even a theory. A theory, at least in science, is something that must be refutable in the sense of Karl Popper. FE is not rationally formulated, in operational terms. It is therefore not refutable, just like the Hindu "theory" of reincarnation. It is a utopian dream, and there are many more delusional and unrealistic utopias than feasible ones.

It depends on definitions. A pragmatic definition of FE is whatever heats your home for nothing. It would include (disregarding capital and maintenance costs) heat pumps, wind turbines in the garden and PV cells - which is not helpful.

I think a good FE starting point is quantum foam. As for the Hindus, I suspect you haven't heard of the case where a young child got lost on a picnic and accidently wandered back to the wrong village, only to be recognised by her "previous" mother as a daughter who died in a tragic accident some years ago. The matter spent a lot of time in the Indian judiciary system and one of the families agreed to move to the other village and bring up the child on a joint basis.
   
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