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Verpies,

thank you....very helpful as always.

Me..a hacker  :-[...no, I used my phone because i have issues with the user interface of my old 18.04 Linux...probably a java-problem

Now I have to comment about some detail in the aforementioned document;

I stopped reading the document on page 11. On this page a picture is shown with yellow note reading
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Front-Left Coil
How is it that he confuses these two separate windings with a bifilar winding?
Am I completely wrong? To me, it looks exactly like two parallel or antiparallel turns as cheappower2012 stated in one of his posts.
Anyway it is clear to me now that this document is gaslighting and misleading the community into believing that this is a technique similar to the MEG, also using the Tesla-Patent to divert the attention.

I didnt read further because once I sense the smell of intelligence work or at least gatekeeper activity I dont want to waste my time.
I also wonder whether I should remove the document.

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Me..a hacker  :-[...no, I used my phone because i have issues with the user interface of my old 18.04 Linux...probably a java-problem
Well, with a Haxor name like this....

I stopped reading the document on page 11. On this page a picture is shown with yellow note reading How is it that he confuses these two separate windings with a bifilar winding?
Over the years I have learned that people can mean the following four different winding arrangements by the word "bifilar".



Am I completely wrong? To me, it looks exactly like two parallel or antiparallel turns as cheappower2012 stated in one of his posts.
That photo depicts a winding made with two different wires of 2 different colors.  Depending on how the ends of these wires are connected, it can be any of the four topologies depicted above.
Starting from page 33 the author appears to consider all ways the ends can be connected which make sense.

Anyway it is clear to me now that this document is gaslighting and misleading the community into believing that this is a technique similar to the MEG, also using the Tesla-Patent to divert the attention.
It may or maybe it is just the way the author sees it, considering the limited visual data.
You should endeavor to not reject anything off hand just because it conflicts with a cherished narrative or interpretation.
   
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You are correct with me having a possible narrative ...but looking again at the related picture I see two separate coils side by side , the one above right is partly covered by a white material (Tape ?)
I do not see two wires side by side wound in any configuration that you've showed

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Verpiß,

You are correct with me having a possible narrative ...but looking again at the related picture I see two separate coils side by side , the one above right is partly covered by a white material (Tape ?)
I do not see two wires side by side wound in any configuration that you've showed
The two separate terminals (circled in red) and the wide gaps between the white turns of the "FRONT-LEFT COIL" are indicators that this is one of the four winding arrangements depicted here.


Cropped illustration from Pg.11

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I know what Verpiß means in German.  I'll let it slide ...this time.

   

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seeing the size of the wire and not that many turns, those windings may be just circuit isolation or cmc as mike has shown in most every circuit he has presented.  :o :P

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verpies,

I apologize...terrible mistake...my bad. :-[

On my Notebook this letter here "ß" is on the number-line of my keyboard on the extreme right side.This number-line is on top. The "s" is on the far left side" on the second letter-line.
It is almost impossible that this can happen. I noticed on my phone that words are altered by AI while typing and if I am not attentive a slip like this could happen....and it did because  I used my phone for this last post of mine...what a mess. It might lead to me being kicked
out here.

Still I can not see the coil-setup in the pic on your scheme, as the two coils I see are not wound on the same axis....but will stop arguing because of the bad quality of the vid.
I just saw another video here:

https://youtu.be/cRJHtl6LyP4?si=Tzl091dmYOtfLNfu&t=358

..and here I see only one coil on the base-plate.

@mags: your post "..as mike has shown " you certainly meant Marks ;). By the way do you speak russian or ukrainian language ?
..and yes Marks used thick cables used for transmission of NF power from amplifier-output stage to the speaker-box

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Still I can not see the coil-setup in the pic on your scheme, as the two coils I see are not wound on the same axis....but will stop arguing because of the bad quality of the vid.
I just saw another video here:

https://youtu.be/cRJHtl6LyP4?si=Tzl091dmYOtfLNfu&t=358

..and here I see only one coil on the base-plate.
Do you see the two terminals of that winding which I have marked with two red lines below ?
Do you see the air gap between these terminals as he moves the device around ?



This screenshot was taken from the video at 10:07, which you have posted above.
   

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as in mike, centralflow

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Verpies,

yes I can see it know. The white strip is just the white background ( white wand shining through) ...solved. Thank you.

What is your assessment : is he rotating all 4 coils in successive order endlessly like a chasing LED light like this ?:
https://youtu.be/Jra0rFpwy1o?si=PnSbDlH77aE6W0Ph&t=550

... and where is the energy coming from? He clearly had issues with eddy currents as Jack Urban wrote which is to be exspected with this speaker-plate he used

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 He never checked the plug outlet for ac voltage it was assumed it was there because the lamps

lit.If the lamps were simple lamps with no area to hide anything then this tpu could be real
also this tpu never appears ever again.


I have replicated this illusion[f2],the two lamps have room for a 12 volt battery and a small
12 volts to 110 ac inverter.The one end of the inverter is hooked to the 12 volt battery,the

other end of the inverter is hooked to one side of the ac cord of the lamp.The other side of the

battery goes to the other side of the ac cord.When you short the ac cord the 12 volts
powers the inverter and the lamp lights.On the wall socket he simply put a wire across the

socket
this shorts it,if you plug in the ac cord from the lamps they will light this creates an

illusion there's 110 ac there.On the device there are reed switches that turn on with a magnet
and it supplies
a voltage from a battery[f1],the connection that goes to the lamps is just a short.In my opinion
this device is a fake.Heres an other that I think is fake[F3],it is a small tpu,its 12, 9 volt

batteries
connected in series,I have done this it lights a lamp as in the video.Steven Mark was a sort of

con man,these fakes were to appeal to the investor's greed as this was in hes investor video,its

Just basic greed.
In my opinion some of the TPUs are real and some are fake.  If you focus on a fake TPU, you will get nowhere. That's why I tried to see which ones are possibly real.
I'm not wasting my time on fakes.  You guys can believe what you want.  SM was a very smart but tricky guy.




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What is your assessment : is he rotating all 4 coils in successive order endlessly like a chasing LED light like this ?:
https://youtu.be/Jra0rFpwy1o?si=PnSbDlH77aE6W0Ph&t=550
I do not know.  I was just pointing out the winding topology as seen on these screenshots.
This does not mean that I subscribe to the other points of Razvan Niculae's analysis like his terminal connection diagram nor his proposed gain mechanism.

I can confirm that when four windings are arranged and connected in pairs, like he proposes, then the following flux distribution is correct when one pair is fully energized.



Additionally, I can confirm that when two pairs of windings are arranged and connected in that manner and they are energized by 2-phase sinusoidal AC current (90º out of phase) then a uniformly rotating magnetic field is generated.

... and where is the energy coming from?
I have my pet theory but I will not post it here as it tends to upset people ...especially those who believe in an aether.
   

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In my opinion some of the TPUs are real and some are fake.  If you focus on a fake TPU, you will get nowhere. That's why I tried to see which ones are possibly real.
I'm not wasting my time on fakes.  You guys can believe what you want.  SM was a very smart but tricky guy.
It is possible to fake the demo with fat lamps like you have described.
   

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Additionally, I can confirm that when two pairs of windings are arranged and connected in that manner and they are energized by 2-phase sinusoidal AC current (90º out of phase) then a uniformly rotating magnetic field is generated.

Is it possible to create a rotating field with two phases? The direction of rotation will be arbitrary.  At least three are needed.
   

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Is it possible to create a rotating field with two phases? The direction of rotation will be arbitrary.
No, because 90° phase shift is distinct from a 270° phase shift.



This does not matter for a squirrel cage rotor in an induction motor, though.
   

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I'm leaning with the Chief.  With only 2 sets of coils, i cannot see the field rotating no matter what phase degree applied.
for example, what direction of rotation does your example go in the coil example shown??? clockwise? counterclockwise? :-\

If it were only 2 windings, not 4, rotation still couldn't be had.  Chief is correct, 3 would be needed with 3 phases of input.
I've been working with. brushless motors for e-bikes for over 20yrs.  3phase even 7phase.  Not seeing your logic.

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Do you see the two terminals of that winding which I have marked with two red lines below ?
Do you see the air gap between these terminals as he moves the device around ?



This screenshot was taken from the video at 10:07, which you have posted above.

i dont think this is confirmation of a gap between terminals.
'looks' more like reflection by the wires insulation, just like the reflection on the turns of the winding.  looks like that end of the winding you have marked is the last turn over the top of the core, from the winding, over the top from the outer dia to the inner dia then bent up, thus having similar reflection as we see on the winding.

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the square protruding into the top ring.. are there 4 of these and 4 separate windings on the bottom ring?

if so, then i have some educated guesses as to a few things im seeing....

i would say that the rings are cores and the squares are also cores with windings wound on them.  the top core is just a pathway for the tops of the square cores to complete the magnetic circuit on the top end.

if opposite windings, the yellow to yellow and grey to gray, on the bottom core are in series or parallel, im leaning series, then the 2 sets of windings are driven so that where the ends of the yellow and grey meet are in phase magnetically at the square cores, now we have an actual transformer.  the lower core windings are the primary and the square cores are the secondary with the upper core ring as the path for flux between the tops of the square cores.

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and what would be an advatage of this transformer configuration? each secondary is being induced from 2 sides. each square core winding is being hit by 2 opposite sides.  like romeros motor, the upper and lower coils are in series but each is getting flux induced by the same magnet via the magnets opposite poles, where as the coils are wired accordingly to provide output.  similarly with romeros driver coils, they add up to 2 drivers, one for the top and one for the bottom of the driven magnet.

same as speakers. 1 speaker for example say 100w produces 100db, now ad another speaker, 50w each, still 100w in tot, we get 103db out. 4 speakers, 25w each, 106db out, still only 100w in.

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and if the orange sec coils are in series, may be a possible 9db eff increase if the speaker analogy applies.

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as for the application of the flat square magnets, if the primaries are pulsed, then it would have some effect, if one knows about magnet biased pwm inductors and transformers.

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finally, if the ring cores are iron, solid, then that is the overheating problem, which can be corrected.

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Do you see the two terminals of that winding which I have marked with two red lines below ?
Do you see the air gap between these terminals as he moves the device around ?



This screenshot was taken from the video at 10:07, which you have posted above.

I believe that's standard lamp cord from the looks of it. Bifilar of course.
   

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I believe that's standard lamp cord from the looks of it. Bifilar of course.

honestly, i cant be sure. not enough to say i believe....

to say it is bifilar is possible. with so few turns, even if all of those windings we see are in series, the freq of resonance would be way high for. a transformer/inductor with such, lets say, not so tight core configuration in my opinion.

now, maybe there could be an effect involving bucking that may enhance the bifilars effect. we see many examples of ideas that suggest setups that the resonant ring gains amplitude on its own once started, holy grail, but none that describe really how to... only diagrams that show this resonant gain in amplitude in graphs.  i havnt been able to acomplish that, but have seen these subtle claims for many years now.

if the gain funtion was discovered in an audio amp power transformer(incorrectly wound at factory) or something that involved a crt yolk, then id have to say that bifilar was not a gain function ingredient. if it was something to do with speakers, quadraphonic development, maybe there were voice coils that were experimentally wound bifilar and some effect was found there, but all dual voice coils ive seen were 2 layers, not bifi as we know them.

if it was something to do with quadraphonic developement that brought on the idea, id have to say there was a gain seen in the audio output where the sound waves combined in space, similar or exactly the way i described a gain function by multiplying the number of drivers and sticking with the same power input for each multiple test.  i see no speakers here, so maybe he had wisdom to apply this to a solidstate configuration. 

either way, i believe the many ideas of how the tpu worked over all these years were way off base and way over complicated, either on purpose  8), or just wishfull thinking...

im in the belief as of now it is all just much simpler. if you look at my 3d representation again, imagine the lower ring windings set up for a bucking configuration. all of them driven at once via pulse. those bucking sections of that lower ring have a path back through the square cores and the upper ring. this example of the tpu we are looking at is the only one that shows the most. the other tpus, larger ones, the same configuration is most likely hidden within all the black tape and maybe shape formers to give one other ideas of whats going on. totally possible.

one thing that has me going with the multiple driver gain theory is the fact that there are 4 separate windings on the bottom ring, not just 1 or even 2, but 4. if there were another gain functtion other than multiple drivers, then it should be capable to be done with 1 or 2.  i would venture to say that maybe some of the large tpus had possibly 8 or even 16 sections. needs to be an even number to gave a buck at the ends of every lower ring winding. even thought why not similar windings on the top ring, but that would ruin the mag field affect on the square core windings. ive put a lot of thought into this the last few days. im thinking this is it. and it is much simpler  and more easy to understand than the many configurations i have encountered over the years.

for now, ill let that sink in a bit...

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I'm leaning with the Chief.  With only 2 sets of coils, i cannot see the field rotating no matter what phase degree applied.
for example, what direction of rotation does your example go in the coil example shown??? clockwise? counterclockwise? :-\
Clockwise.

If it were only 2 windings, not 4, rotation still couldn't be had.  Chief is correct, 3 would be needed with 3 phases of input.
I've been working with. brushless motors for e-bikes for over 20yrs.  3phase even 7phase.
You are projecting your experiences with motors onto a device that is not a motor.
Below are two contrasting cases of clockwise and counterclockwise rotations caused by two-phase inputs with different phase shifts between them (90° and 270°).





...Not seeing your logic.
If these two animations don't cause you to see the logic, then I don't think more words will help.
   
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