Grenade coil type systems

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DELAMORTO	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #100 on: 2023-10-03, 20:30:05 »
Full Member Posts: 199	The fact that in the video I first touch the hot end of the Kacher, and then the tube and the lamp lights up - this effect was accidental. My kacher is small and low-powered. Consumed less than 100mA when powered at 12 volts. Yes, the lamp was on and consumption dropped even more. As can be seen in the video, Kacher’s power increased when the lamp was connected.

Verpies	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #101 on: 2023-10-03, 20:31:56 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4440	Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023-10-03, 20:26:07 I heated the pipe itself on gas and dipped it in wine vinegar... If you were a real Russian, you would dip it in vodka.

DELAMORTO	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #102 on: 2023-10-03, 20:33:34 »
Full Member Posts: 199	Quote from: verpies on 2023-10-03, 20:31:56 If you were a real Russian, you would dip it in vodka. The whole point was to obtain an oxide so that the tube would not conduct current. There was a video where I disassembled this entire structure and explained and showed its resistance with a multimeter. Perhaps it was a very small capacity....

AlienGrey	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #103 on: 2023-10-03, 20:54:38 »
Newbie Posts: 1606	Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023-10-03, 20:33:34 The whole point was to obtain an oxide so that the tube would not conduct current. There was a video where I disassembled this entire structure and explained and showed its resistance with a multimeter. Perhaps it was a very small capacity.... Have you got a pointer to that little treat 'video' Sil

DELAMORTO	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #104 on: 2023-10-03, 21:14:04 »
Full Member Posts: 199	Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023-10-03, 20:54:38 Have you got a pointer to that little treat 'video' Sil No. My archive has long been lost with past experiences. The Internet remembers something... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5tM8KEoUtE

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #105 on: 2023-10-03, 21:19:22 »

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Quote from: verpies on 2023-10-03, 16:04:22

If you were building a transformer, than this would be a "negative influence" indeed, because of the smaller amplitude at its output with the Al pipe present.

However, this is not a transformer - it is an energy generator and you need to subject the Al pipe to very specific magnetic environment for it to generate short high current pulses.
You should constantly monitor for the occurrence of such pulses while you are tuning the device - not for the highest amplitude of the sine wave at that which you have designated as the "output".

I noticed that the frequency of the current applied to these windings has stayed almost the same (it changed only by 1kHz).
In order to hunt for these short high current pulses in the Al pipe, you must subject that pipe to optimal magnetic bias and excitation (it is unknown if your setup does that) but also you need to monitor for these pulses with an H probe, while sweeping the excitation frequency, e.g from 10kHz to 1MHz over a long time period (your FG can do only 15min sweeps but SCPI can extend that).

This is difficult to do in your setup because you've made the windings (and their drivers) resonant and thus very frequency-selective, therefore they allow you to efficiently generate magnetic flux at that resonant frequency but anything outside of it is severely attenuated. This would be great if you already knew the optimal frequency for that Al pipe in that particular magnetic environment, but you don't and the present setup makes it very difficult for you to sweep for it and find it.
If you get lucky it will look like a spike superimposed on that sinewave.

Ok, i understand that my setup is not the correct setup for testing this slotted alu pipe and that the tests i did were not very useful.

But it showed me that my present setup is working as expected (632Vpp / 51App at the Inductor while the driving MOSFETs stay cool without a heat sink) although the output at the Grenade (without the slotted pipe) was not that great.

So for testing this alu pipe for these "short high current pulses" a new setup should be provided.
The below drawing seems to show such setup, but there are some practical differences like the length of the alu pipe i have being 27cm instead of the guesstimated 2cm in that drawing.

Would cutting a 2cm piece of my pipe and use that in that setup be an option?
Also finding the correct diameter Soft ferrite rings and nonconductive ring magnets would be a challenge.

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #106 on: 2023-10-03, 21:33:22 »

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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-10-03, 21:19:22

...it showed me that my present setup is working as expected (632Vpp / 51App at the Inductor while the driving MOSFETs stay cool without a heat sink)

Indeed

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-10-03, 21:19:22

Would cutting a 2cm piece of my pipe and use that in that setup be an option?

I'd use the same length as the length of one of the soft ferrite rings.

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-10-03, 21:19:22

Also finding the correct diameter Soft ferrite rings and nonconductive ring magnets would be a challenge.

They do not need to be exactly the same diameter - magnets can be slightly larger than ferrite and the metal ring can be slightly smaller.
Large diameter ferrite is better, because it keeps the frequencies lower.

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #107 on: 2023-10-03, 21:44:42 »

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AlienGrey,then many theories were built about what it was.
My opinion is the conversion of high-frequency and high voltage into a magnetic field, through ferrite, and the magnetic field induced a high-frequency current into the copper tube. The lamp was burning due to HF current into the ground.
I invented the Kacher transformer)))

The fact is that all devices with Kacher do not have an efficiency greater than 1. This is a tricky transformer with an efficiency < 1

The fact that no tricky coil grenades will help. Shark installations cannot work....
This is all fake.

Verpies	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #108 on: 2023-10-03, 22:16:23 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4440	Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023-10-03, 21:44:42 The fact that no tricky coil grenades will help. Shark installations cannot work.... This is all fake. Is Kapanadze's device fake, too ?

NickZ	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #109 on: 2023-10-03, 23:41:02 »
Newbie Posts: 994	Who said that a kacher circuit or the push pull circuits needs to be OU by themselves. I don't think that any of these circuits are more out than in, IF they don't access an additional source of energy, such as the surrounding ambient energy fields. Water can be made from the air, so can electric power. Even if we don't know how. Not anyone's fault. NickZ

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #110 on: 2023-10-04, 00:11:54 »

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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-10-03, 23:41:02

I don't think that any of these circuits are more out than in, IF they don't access an additional source of energy, such as the surrounding ambient energy fields.

Do you mean air or Earth's electric field gradient between different altitudes or its magnetic field or its gravitational field or the solar radiation ?

Quote from: NickZ on 2023-10-03, 23:41:02

Water can be made from the air, so can electric power.

No, water cannot be made from air because air lacks hydrogen in the troposphere but water can be extracted from air although only at a great energetic cost (usually provided by the sun or compressed hydrofluorocarbons).

Can components of air be converted to energy? The answer to this is "yes" at least theoretically because air is mass and e=mc².
Other than that, air in the troposphere is pressurized and contains some thermal energy, that causes wind, convection and precipitation and minuscule amount of ions from thunderstorms and solar wind and some exotic particles initiated by the cosmic radiation. Human race already extracts some of this energy, but it is not even remotely plausible that the Grenade devices do that in closed rooms.

So, energy from air and sun is at least possible but energy from vacuum is not.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023-10-03, 23:41:02

Even if we don't know how. Not anyone's fault.

True but ignoring the known body of knowledge to the contrary - is.

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #111 on: 2023-10-04, 02:42:16 »

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Yet, I make water from the air, daily, even right now, as we post So, yes. And wrong answer, once more.
Point being, making useable electric power from the ambient. As Tesla and Kapanadze had mentioned.
But Delamorto says it's just fakes, except for the resonator. So, I hope to see how well that resonator works, or is that too much to ask?
The video looks like a Woppyjump split copper tube replication to me. Is he suggesting that it's OU, as it can't obviously self run?

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Verpies	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #112 on: 2023-10-04, 05:56:48 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4440	Quote from: NickZ on 2023-10-04, 02:42:16 Yet, I make water from the air, daily, even right now, as we post Do you make it or extract the water which is already present in the air ?

DELAMORTO	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #113 on: 2023-10-04, 08:27:25 »
Full Member Posts: 199	About Kapanadze, I named one device that raises doubts - this is what Wesley filmed. And that’s because Kapanadze couldn’t put it together; he was lying in bed.The device was not assembled by him.

Verpies	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #114 on: 2023-10-04, 08:35:48 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4440	Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023-10-04, 08:27:25 About Kapanadze, I named one device that raises doubts - this is what Wesley filmed. And that’s because Kapanadze couldn’t put it together; he was lying in bed.The device was not assembled by him. In other words, the device which was filmed by Wesley was fake. Were other devices built by Kapanadze fake, too?

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #115 on: 2023-10-04, 12:19:56 »

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Quote from: verpies on 2023-10-04, 08:35:48

In other words, the device which was filmed by Wesley was fake.
Were other devices built by Kapanadze fake, too?

I’m not 100% sure about the device that Wesley ..... My personal opinion, based on start and work.
Other Kapanadze installations were checked by specialists. They worked.

As for the Akula and his installation, it’s 100% fake. Accordingly, all his followers are also 100% fake!

Verpies	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #116 on: 2023-10-04, 12:57:58 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4440	Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023-10-04, 12:19:56 Other Kapanadze installations were checked by specialists. They worked. As for the Akula and his installation, it’s 100% fake. So in your opinion Kapanadze's devices work except the one filmed by Wesley. Akula's devices are fake. What about Dally's devices (note: he made his before Akula started) ?

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #117 on: 2023-10-04, 14:12:21 »

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Quote from: DELAMORTO on 2023-10-04, 08:27:25

About Kapanadze, I named one device that raises doubts - this is what Wesley filmed. And that’s because Kapanadze couldn’t put it together; he was lying in bed.The device was not assembled by him.

I suspect that possibly none of the shown devices were made by him.
That does not mean that those devices did not work. In front of several people watching and testing.
Thanks for clarifying that for us.

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #118 on: 2023-10-04, 14:19:51 »

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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-10-04, 14:12:21

I suspect that possibly none of the shown devices were made by him.
That does not mean that those devices did not work. In front of several people watching and testing.
Thanks for clarifying that for us.

NickZ

Some electronic circuits were not assembled (soldered) by Kapanadze - this is a fact. It’s also a fact that he was the only one who made the resonator for the primary and secondary coils. Information from his mouth.

DELAMORTO	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #119 on: 2023-10-04, 14:21:11 »
Full Member Posts: 199	Quote from: verpies on 2023-10-04, 12:57:58 So in your opinion Kapanadze's devices work except the one filmed by Wesley. Akula's devices are fake. What about Dally's devices (note: he made his before Akula started) ? All these are wild fantasies on the theme of a free energy generator!

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #120 on: 2023-10-04, 14:25:32 »

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You are like children, you believe everything that is cleverly shown

Imagine that a certain company has approached you with a request to make a fake free energy installation for good money. You refused, you are not interested. After some time, a video comes out with a supposedly working installation; in the video you see those people who contacted you earlier. Coincidence?!
This video is broadcast by all our and foreign forums - this is the discovery.... Everyone begins to frantically draw diagrams and assemble them, and I quietly laugh!

The main question to ask is who needed this and what were the benefits?
Well, as the finale of this story, the truth was revealed, there was a scandal... they found a hidden source - a battery! Only now no one will return the money spent on the performance....

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #121 on: 2023-10-04, 14:33:28 »

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Quote from: verpies on 2023-10-04, 05:56:48

Do you make it or extract the water which is already present in the air ?

Verpies: I believe that water is made by extracting it from our humid air. But, I am not sure. Nor pertinent here.
The main point is extracting electric energy from the ambient. Again not sure if from the air or from non material source.
I would think that they are cosmic energy sources, found everywhere, such as the Aether, which Tesla mentions, and not from the air.
I am here to learn, and verify. Not making claims, beforehand.
I am concerned more about if any of the shown devices are not working as shown, not if the inventor is a fake, or not.Yet, it's all important to know. That is why I replicate to verify when possible. But we may not have all the proper not hidden info about any of it, as yet.

NickZ

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Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #122 on: 2023-10-04, 14:35:25 »

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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-10-04, 14:33:28

Verpies: I believe that water is made by extracting it from our humid air. But, I am not sure. Nor pertinent here.
The main point is extracting electric energy from the ambient. Again not sure if from the air or from non material source.
I would think that they are cosmic energy sources, found everywhere, such as the Aether, which Tesla mentions, and not from the air.
I am here to learn, and verify. Not making claims, beforehand.
I am concerned more about if any of the shown devices are not working as shown, not if the inventor is a fake, or not.Yet, it's all important to know. That is why I replicate to verify when possible. But we may not have all the proper not hidden info about any of it, as yet.

NickZ

You can't have it! You didn’t run around in these circles whose schemes you are trying to repeat!
Stop being naive and use your head!

p|s Installations for obtaining water from the air have long been used by African tribes... is this also news?!

Verpies	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #123 on: 2023-10-04, 15:49:06 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4440	Quote from: NickZ on 2023-10-04, 14:33:28 The main point is extracting electric energy from the ambient. Again not sure if from the air or from non material source. Why doesn't this ambient energy fry us ?

AlienGrey	Re: Grenade coil type systems « Reply #124 on: 2023-10-04, 17:38:11 »
Newbie Posts: 1606	your asking is the Dally device fake, the thing is if it's not where does the extra energy come fromwhen its just not known how it's supposed to work or how does it pull in charged electrons from the environment ? And if i have an oscillator tuned to a resonance with a wires length, how does it generate energy or is that BS as well. It all comes back to what is the proverbial really ?