Kapanadze replication

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chief kolbacict

Re: Kapanadze replication « Reply #675 on: 2026-01-28, 16:01:46 »

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Quote from: partzman on 2026-01-27, 14:55:57

After all my research into charge separation and the E-Field contained in the center of a toroid, I now find it interesting to look at the Rodin coil in this light.

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I had done it a few days ago. And I saw no difference from ordinary coil.
I even put this coil on the neck of the CRT instead of the deflection system.
I don't think even Marko Rodin himself has tried this.

And I didn't see any rotation. Unlike the stators of three-phase motors.

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Re: Kapanadze replication « Reply #676 on: 2026-01-28, 21:44:46 »

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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2026-01-28, 16:01:46

I had done it a few days ago. And I saw no difference from ordinary coil.
I even put this coil on the neck of the CRT instead of the deflection system.
I don't think even Marko Rodin himself has tried this.
And I didn't see any rotation. Unlike the stators of three-phase motors.

I'm not saying I support any claims of field rotation although there are many videos available that show spinning ball magnets in the center of Rodin coils as you well know.

However, what I find interesting is two things. First is the gradient of E-Field that is present in each group of windings and the angles of each E-Field in a somewhat circular fashion in the center of the toroid winding structure. Second, if we wind just two opposing coils on a toroid core material such as ferrite with the returns crossing inside the core, we will measure ~4x the inductance of a single conventional coil wound with the same number of turns. Why? Because we have doubled the number of wires in the center of the core that are creating or subjected to the E-Field. If we measure a single turn passing thru the core with this arrangement, we will measure ~1/2 the peak voltage/turn applied to the primary winding.

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Cheappower2012

Re: Kapanadze replication « Reply #677 on: Today at 04:50:48 »

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I need my eyes checked because, all I see is a standard big toroid, wound in a standard way, with two terminals. I would think that giving that all Kapanadze devices have an AC output, the toroid is powered by an AC current, too.
Is there a kickback or does it violate action /reaction. Tariel says from the afterlife, dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit, LOL.
Now seriously its a very strange motor, it may violate some laws by itself.

Verpies	Re: Kapanadze replication « Reply #678 on: Today at 05:22:59 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 4513	Quote from: Cheappower2012 on Today at 04:50:48 ...all I see is a standard big toroid, wound in a standard way, with two terminals. I see the same thing. There are usually no magnetic fields in the bore of such toroids - power one up, stick a screwdriver in the hole and see for yourself.

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Re: Kapanadze replication « Reply #679 on: Today at 06:24:45 »

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In an ordinary wound toroid it has no magnetic field of any consequence in the center, however if the toroid is wound like the TPU one there is a center magnetic field.
My experimenting has focused on dc fields not ac fields.Lets say that this toroid is powered by an ac current from the big box. Let's say that the 4 taped areas on the toroid are there to hid the construction of the windings. Let's say the toroid is broken in 4 segments.
They would be like the TPU, each with an external field pointing towards the center. The AC would cause a shifting of north/south poles maybe a rotating field.
How this would cause a steel shaft to turn I don't know yet,its very interesting and strange.
Just a theory from what I see.

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Re: Kapanadze replication « Reply #680 on: Today at 07:35:59 »

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Quote from: Cheappower2012 on Today at 06:24:45

The AC would cause a shifting of north/south poles...

Yes, a linearly oscillating field could be generated in the bore with multiple bucking windings

Quote from: Cheappower2012 on Today at 06:24:45

...maybe a rotating field.

A rotating field generated with 2 terminals only ? How ?
A thick shorted coil could create a phase-delayed shaded pole but I do not see one.

Anyway, normally, rotating magnetic fields need a squirrel cage type rotor to grab onto.

Quote from: Cheappower2012 on Today at 06:24:45

How this would cause a steel shaft to turn I don't know yet,...

A solid steel shaft can be spun by a rotating magnetic field using the shaft's ferromagnetic hysteresis but the effect is very weak. Especially at low frequencies.

A solid steel shaft can also be spun by a rotating magnetic field using the eddy-currents induced in the shaft, but without the squirrel cage, for this effect to generate enough torque to overcome even the friction of the bearings, the AC frequency has to be very high and the inductance of the windings must be low because i=V/X_L.

The windings visible on that toroidal core are of the high-inductance type. They are incapable of supporting large high-frequency currents without insanely high alternating voltages.

Quote from: Cheappower2012 on Today at 06:24:45

...its very interesting and strange.

It seems like you have identified a mystery.