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You know there is another 9/11 theory which few want to consider however it is easy to understand. The events of 9/11 happened because of complete incompetence by those in charge and a complete failure of the lines of communication and security.

As far back as the Pearl Harbor and the Kennedy assassination, the "failure of competence and communication" card has been played over and over.

What better cover? If the government agencies are pointing to their own incompetence, you can't argue with that and the idea is firmly planted in the minds of the masses to throw you off the trail.

As long as you believe that the highest levels of government, CIA etc are incompetent, you will buy the "typical government bungling" scenario. Just because you see such actions at the lowest paid drudge jobs of government does not mean it applies to the highest paid very professional levels.

It is very safe for them to keep your mind in that box.

There are numerous things the government agencies have not bungled, and we would be wise to remember them.
e.g. the Manhattan Project.


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Some may blow this off, but, anything is possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeqWx60yy4&feature=g-vrec&context=G2f8aaf1RVAAAAAAAADQ

Kennedy tried to expose them, then was killed.  watch vid

Bush used the same scare tactics(911) and quote from Hitler    watch vid

If Ron Paul, Big IF, wins, he will be another Kennedy.

Thats just the way the illuminati ball bounces.

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As far back as the Pearl Harbor and the Kennedy assassination, the "failure of competence and communication" card has been played over and over.

What better cover? If the government agencies are pointing to their own incompetence, you can't argue with that and the idea is firmly planted in the minds of the masses to throw you off the trail.
I have worked in numerous government agencies as an engineer and can assure you it is no cover story, the level of incompetence is very real.

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As long as you believe that the highest levels of government, CIA etc are incompetent, you will buy the "typical government bungling" scenario. Just because you see such actions at the lowest paid drudge jobs of government does not mean it applies to the highest paid very professional levels.
Let's throw a little logic at this statement, do the highest paid professionals have the facts?, No they always rely on others to interpret the facts for them. In the real world the lower levels gather pieces of the facts together then the managers interpret them then the higher levels receive opinion's based on these interpretations, I know this and have seen it in action--- It's Fubar. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that making decisions based on outdated second or third hand information is not an intelligent thing to do and the information is only as good as the person who gave it to them.

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"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt.

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I have worked in numerous government agencies as an engineer and can assure you it is no cover story, the level of incompetence is very real.
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Then the "managed incompetence" has served
its purpose - it has fooled you.

Does anyone find it odd that "government" in the
U.S.A. has become synonymous with "lying" and
"incompetence?"

We've seen it for so long that most have come to
accept it as an inevitability.  Those who've created
this less than ideal "reality" are exceedingly clever.
They also possess massive resources.

Money is always available for war or any other
activity which advances the AGENDA.

The People are being bamboozled.


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And this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_epu6mDuIM&feature=related[/youtube]
Some may blow this off, but, anything is possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeqWx60yy4&feature=g-vrec&context=G2f8aaf1RVAAAAAAAADQ

Kennedy tried to expose them, then was killed.  watch vid

Bush used the same scare tactics(911) and quote from Hitler    watch vid

If Ron Paul, Big IF, wins, he will be another Kennedy.

Thats just the way the illuminati ball bounces.

Mags


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9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98[/youtube]
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@all

Here is the next pages of the Divine Cosmos Articles
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1023-financial-tyranny

And here is a good read as well going back to 1869.
http://www.gospeltruth.net/1869Freemasonry/freem_preface.htm

@GK

Just to let you know that I am reading your posts with great attention.

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9/11 in plain view.

Not everyone has been fooled.


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Frequency equals matter...


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Maybe not. But try to make a stand.
On [any street] movement could be a covert ply to circumvent the whole system without becoming a military threat.
Or the movement could be a covert gov operation to stress the boundaries and solidify a Marxist regime with socialist agenda. Ya know, kinda like Mussolini tried.

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Mussolini was among the founders of Italian Fascism, which included elements of nationalism, corporatism, national syndicalism, expansionism, social progress, and anti-socialism in combination with censorship of subversives and state propaganda. In the years following his creation of the Fascist ideology, Mussolini influenced, or achieved admiration from, a wide variety of political figures.

History: the process of schedules repeating themselves, ad infinitum.


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It's all connected.

The reason 9/11 was made to happen is
but another "step" in the advancement of
the AGENDA.

This is another step.


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Thinking back on the discussions, not only of 911, here in this thread, Im presenting 2 video2 that I would like to see what some of you might say about them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faRjF3-WGVA&list=FLjjcpZL8tkpn4WGkU2y_lPQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

This next one is an audio commentary on the video from theintelhub.com along side of the audio from the vid above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7A0vWa_YPcU

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It's not as complicated as it may seem...
Just goes to prove once again that there are always two laws; one which we all must follow, and one which gives full license to the folks that really run the country.

Look what just happened in Russia.

The world's a friggin' mess.
   
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Are you guys all agents of Islam or something?  Don't try to cover up the facts.  We all know Allah did it.
   
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Hey Poynt

I agree. The whole ball of wax is melting.

I thought there might be more comments by now, but...

But this kind of thing should be shocking. Well, it should be.  But a lot of people Im finding seem to be , "yep, thats how things are today"  Well, thats why it gets to this point. Its like a lot of people just give up and just accept the way things are. Not everybody, but many.  And of those many, most say, well, we cant do anything about it.   Not true. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuu7ma4B8wY

Everyone can do something.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSTb1PyZpo        Ron Paul  What If speech    Gotta love this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2rMnov4Ae8         Ron Paul commercial(banned)    But so possibly true

Ron Paul 2012   The Champion Of The Constitution  ;]

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Aye, the World is a friggin' mess and it is
destined to get even more sinister.

Visible (Dog Poet) says it well...



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Ya, you all want to complain about how bad the world is but you really don't want to know the truth.

Whatever you do, do not look at any of the ideology that is driving all the madness around us, all cultures are equal right, might as well give up our own culture as it is only as good as all the rest.  There all just as good!! Right

So remember whatever you do be sure it is politically correct and extent your hand in welcome to all cultures no matter what they are really like.  Don't study or even look at their way of life. Just assume it is as good or better then your way of life, because all cultures are equal are they not?

How a group of people this smart can be so dumb is way beyond me. :D

To know what is happening and stop the bitching start finding out about Islam, its Idealogy, and Culture.  Then come back and tell me whats going on!


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Room, what the heck are you talking about?

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To know what is happening and stop the bitching start finding out about Islam, its Idealogy, and Culture.  Then come back and tell me whats going on!

Isn't it odd that "Islam" bears an uncanny
resemblance to the Kaballah?

And, it would seem, the Talmud (Babylonian?)

What truly is the source of "Islam?"

Perhaps the same source as modern
"Christianity?"

In any case, all that is presently happening
was long ago foretold...


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Dumped,

It isn't odd at all, and if you knew anything about Islam you wouldn't have any of these questions.

Mohammed purchased scripture from the jews to use in his new religion, thats where the resemblance comes from, of course he claims that his revelations came from an angel (Gabriel) to him strait from God.  He made such a mess of them relaying them to his people that the Jews couldn't contain themselves and laughed at him.  As you know he could not take any ridicule and did what he always did, turn to violence.  He made the Jews his and Islams biggest enemy and ordered their slaughter everywhere on earth until no Jews exist anywhere.  Sound like a sane man to you?

The source of Islam is Mohammed himself thru Gabriel direct from God.  According to Islam.

Yes Christianity has the same roots but that is as far as it goes, if you knew anything about Islam you would know there is very little similarity between them.  But then you would have to know something about Islam.

And long ago what did they warn you about, false profets, the beast, false dogma, etc. should I continue?


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"Whatever our resources of primary energy may be in the future, we must, to be rational, obtain it without consumption of any material"  Nicola Tesla

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Anyone who has been raised in the
"Brooklyn Community" is very much
aware!  It's a crazy place in many
respects - very heavy into indoctrination
and control...

Quote from: Room3327
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...  As you know he could not take any ridicule and did what he always did, turn to violence.  He made the Jews his and Islams biggest enemy and ordered their slaughter everywhere on earth until no Jews exist anywhere.  Sound like a sane man to you?
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Do you appreciate how "Jewish" the above
sounds?   Turn it around.

Are you familiar with the essence of the Kaballah
and/or the Talmud?

New York City (Manhattan in particular) has a
very special meaning to the power brokers - it
was essential that 9/11 occur there.  It was in
the plans for many years prior to the actual event.


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Dumped,
I don't care one iota how Jewish it sounds, If you weren't such a fool you wouldn't care either!
The lies and atrocities that have been committed for 1400 years on the Jewish people by Islam has no equal anywhere or at any time in history.
Islam has lied about the Jews for so long that they believe their own lies and are the most paranoid people on earth.  Islam is one big LIE but people like you will never realize it because you've bought into their lies and deception, you think it is actually a religion.  A religion with there top 'holy' man being a murderer, liar, thief, rapist and a pedophile.  Please show me something about Islam that is actually "HOLY", show me some LOVE in Islam, you can't.  Islam is a complete way of life, it is as much political as it is religious,  it's a complete package that is absolutely at odds with Democracy but again you would have to know something about Islam to know that.

The restraint shown by Israel to refrain from completely destroying Islam, who are commanded by the Koran to hate and kill Jews forever is nothing short of a Godly feat, but you would never know that because you know absolutely nothing about Islam. (Unless of course, if you are a Muslim and trying to decieve me)

As a Christian I would like to say:  God Bless the Jews, and thank you for being a GOOD Religion and the front lines of defense for the rest of us while we sleep in ignorance.


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"Whatever our resources of primary energy may be in the future, we must, to be rational, obtain it without consumption of any material"  Nicola Tesla

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."  Edmund Burke
   
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Dumped,
I don't care one iota how Jewish it sounds, If you weren't such a fool you wouldn't care either!

I think your words are wasted.  Anti-semites like Dumped will never change their minds.  They just read jewwatch.com all day and rant against the global jewish cabal that controls everything.
   

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I think your words are wasted.  Anti-semites like Dumped will never change their minds.  They just read jewwatch.com all day and rant against the global jewish cabal that controls everything.

The global Jewish cabal? LOL It sure looks to me like it is the global Islamic cabal that is controlling everything.  Who is spreading out, and who is still where they have always been, who is the driving factor in most of the earths 'problems', who runs and controls the UN, who is trying to stop free speech, who limits human rights, I could go on but I think most of us can can come up with many more examples of who the true culprits are.

Sadly you are right.


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"Whatever our resources of primary energy may be in the future, we must, to be rational, obtain it without consumption of any material"  Nicola Tesla

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."  Edmund Burke
   
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