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Without a piezo element to test,its pure speculation as to whither its the secret of the Kapanadze device.Why is he  not selling the piezo element he has had it for years.
This leads me to think it maybe a fake.People like to grab a few facts and run with them and ignore other facts, because  the Kap device generates so much power a conventional theory can not explain it.
   
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It's absolutely equivalent.

If you believe in the functionality of Kapanadze's device, you should also believe in the functionality of this chemical "piezoelectric element".
Or don't believe it and forget about it all.


Maybe it's current flowing from the ground ?

It doesn't matter.
Electric current isn't water; its direction of flow was invented by humans to simplify their understanding of the process.
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If we assume that the grenade contains half a kilogram of gasoline inside, which is quite realistic given its size.
the heat of combustion of this gives 6 kilowatt hours. This would be enough for a long demonstration of the board with bulbs.
Just  thoughts regarding the dimensions of possible energy. If the electric battery had the same order of energy as gasoline...
   
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It's absolutely equivalent.

If you believe in the functionality of Kapanadze's device, you should also believe in the functionality of this chemical "piezoelectric element".
Or don't believe it and forget about it all.


It doesn't matter.
Electric current isn't water; its direction of flow was invented by humans to simplify their understanding of the process.

Not at all. If we have open circuit connected to Earth system then current is from this open system - it's like recreating the lightning
   
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...connected to Earth system then current is from this open system - it's like recreating the lightning

To generate such a long and powerful current, Tariel Kapanadze would need to undetectably connect wires to another planet, or at least to the Moon.

It would be impossible for an independent observer to tell whether the current, as energy, was flowing from the Earth to the Moon or from the Moon to the Earth.
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If a torch is isolated from the ground, say it's battery-powered, and a constant voltage is applied between the ground and the torch's ground, will current flow in this circuit?
« Last Edit: 2026-01-16, 08:27:32 by chief kolbacict »
   
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Yes, some current will flow, but this is a closed system.
   

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Some will not like to read this… but since the mention of Thermal batteries post 639 I started thinking that this might have been a very plausible explanation to the operation of many of TK’s devices. The ‘ Grenade ‘ coil being a perfect casing to hide a cylindrical module. A simple PP3 battery to ‘ fire ‘ the process and enough run time to give the impression of infinite energy. Definitely a case of so simple you’d laugh! Another point is that TK allegedly stripped down each demonstration unit and built a new one every time.

Food for thought??

Cheers Graham.


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Food for thought??
This can be resolved by dividing the volume of the hidey holes by the available volumetric energy density of the available batteries and comparing it to the power of the load integrated over the demo time.

In fact, this calculation is the first thing that should be done with any FE claim.
   
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@maxmalone - Would you be willing to share the source for the image you posted in #625 entitled c2.jpg?  Is there a patent or further description accompanying it somewhere?  Much appreciated.
   
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This can be resolved by dividing the volume of the hidey holes by the available volumetric energy density of the available batteries and comparing it to the power of the load integrated over the demo time.

In fact, this calculation is the first thing that should be done with any FE claim.

Do you have any batteries available that are similar to the mechanically activated batteries in projectiles or the thermal batteries from post 639?  :o

If not, what can you compare them to?
   

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Do you have any batteries available that are similar to the mechanically activated batteries in projectiles or the thermal batteries from post 639?  :o
If not, what can you compare them to?
No, if such batteries really exist their energy density should be compared to the best ones we can measure.
   

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No, if such batteries really exist their energy density should be compared to the best ones we can measure.
Thermal batteries are real.  This company make them and their data sheets enable you to calculate their energy densities.  They are one-shot devices having limited active life but enormous inactive shelf life.
https://www.eaglepicher.com/products/thermal-batteries/

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« Last Edit: 2026-01-23, 16:47:30 by Smudge »
   
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Here is a device Tariel made in 2015,for it to be fake,you would have to put a battery and
inverter in the black box.they lift the device in the video,in the second picture the current is
measured 14.8 amps ,14.8*220vac=3,256 watts.A,B,and C are there to fake people out
they serve no function.D is used to generate the HV going to the copper coil.If the ground
connection is going to B the ground connection serves no function.In my opinion
I believe that Tariel's devices work, but I don't believe that they need a ground or
HV to work.The HV maybe to indicate its a Tesla invention so people focus on Tesla not
on Tariel and go on a wild goose chase.
   

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I believe that Tariel's devices work, ...
Do you think that they work on the same principle as these ?:

https://youtu.be/Z4HCPrB-KB0
https://youtu.be/_BJnrlUbb58
https://youtu.be/kK_NzmsGdH0

...or has Tariel invented 2 entirely different principles ?
   
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https://youtu.be/Z4HCPrB-KB0 has two flywheels on a shaft, with what looks like at one end
 a strange motor, the other end is coupled by belt to a generator.The big box generates
the energy that powers the motor that turns the flywheels.In one part of the video
the flywheel is not turning [11:11] a guy lights up a series of light bulbs hooked directly to

the big box.The device is a standard kap device, no new principle.

https://youtu.be/_BJnrlUbb58 A kap device powers a motor turning the flywheels
coupled to a generator,the energy comes from a standard kap device[box],no new principle.

https://youtu.be/kK_NzmsGdH0 The video is too low resolution,however there is a box containing
a standard kap device that powers the flywheels,no new principle.

Both Steven Mark and Tariel Kapanadze are sort of con men  Tariel charged to build a device
made them think hes going into business with them.Steven Mark made videos to lure in investors
 appealed to there greed,then cheated them and gave them nothing.In my opinion both devices
work and are simple,both of them did not know how and why there devices worked.Both knew what

was needed to build them,In my opinion both devices are powered by gravity,in one video of
a tpu it stops working when he turns it upside down.In the aquarium 2 video they lifted it up
and turned it side ways the heater turned off then it turned back on after he set it down.

 
   

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https://youtu.be/Z4HCPrB-KB0 has two flywheels on a shaft, with what looks like at one end
 a strange motor, ...
Why is it strange ?
   
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Its a toroid never seen a motor like this,in one video he puts it on to the shaft.
   

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Its a toroid never seen a motor like this,in one video he puts it on to the shaft.

I don't see how such 2-terminal toroid could exert such torque on a uniform steel shaft.


Shouldn't this plastic toroid holder experience a counter-torque as the shaft is accelerated ?
   

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I don't see how such 2-terminal toroid could exert such torque on a uniform steel shaft.
And what about Marco Rodin coil ?  :)
« Last Edit: 2026-01-27, 12:32:18 by chief kolbacict »
   

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On the subject of atypical coils:  I have seen the Rodin coil tested but I have never seen the following one tested:


Without or with an iron wire inside the small helix.

I have read rumors that it has the shape of plasmoids occurring in LENR experiments.
   

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And what about Marco Rodin coil ?  :)
That coil has a large circumferential current component and generates magnetic flux with large axial component in addition to the toroidal component.
Torque acting on a solid cylindrical shaft can only be generated by hysteresis losses and eddy currents but for that to happen, the field in the bore needs to rotate like this.
Without such field, the net torque acting on a solid shaft placed in the bore is minimal or zero.  Without magnets embedded in the shaft even such rotating field generates a very weak torque.

I have seen some demonstrations with that type of coil that converted the axial vibrations of a ferromagnetic object placed in its bore into rotation THROUGH ANISOTROPIC FRICTION.  See this video.
Do you know of any high frequency experiments with standing waves in such coil ?

Anyway, that toroid in these Kapanadze videos does not have such high-pitch windings like the Rodin coil.
   

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Without external power, the coil continues to generate 25 amps of 220 V for several seconds, without any power supply from the output. A strange sound is heard, likely due to 50 Hz desynchronization.
Blimey…. We’ve had this conversation eons ago…. As far as I’m concerned the sound is made from the use of a VFD powering the 3 phase motor. A good spectrum analysis might even show the frequencies involved with the chopper control. You can now have several different frequencies depending on whether they are for the domestic market or industrial.

Cheers Graham.


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Thermal batteries are real.  This company make them and their data sheets enable you to calculate their energy densities.  They are one-shot devices having limited active life but enormous inactive shelf life.
https://www.eaglepicher.com/products/thermal-batteries/

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A diagram called "Kapanadze's Boot" was circulating online.
 The diagram indicated that a long coil contained a chemical substance labeled "borenium salt"

Considering the forum postings that this was some kind of military technology, and the presence of other devices in Kapanadze's possession, such as mechanical generators with pressure gauges, pressured gas tanks, and internal combustion engines, it can be assumed that he used a substance capable of generating electricity or gas, such as hydrogen.

The substance, which can be used to create powerful current sources or to generate gas and is called "borenium salt," is most likely sodium borohydride.

Between 1990 and 2014, sodium borohydride (NaBH4) and its analogs were considered revolutionary "solid fuels." If you encountered the term "borenium salt" in reference to the white powder in power sources, there's a 95% chance you were talking about direct borohydride fuel cells (DBFCs).

Unlike conventional batteries, where energy is stored in metals, the primary energy source here was the borohydride powder.

Process: The powder was dissolved in alkaline water and fed to the anode of the fuel cell.

Chemistry: Direct oxidation of the borohydride ion occurred over a catalyst. The reaction released 8 electrons per molecule (for comparison, hydrogen produces only 2 electrons, and methanol 6). This provided colossal energy density.
Result: The theoretical specific energy capacity of this “salt” was about 9300 Wh/kg, which is tens of times higher than that of the best lithium-ion batteries of the time.

Sodium borohydride was used for:
  • Military portable power generators.
  • Prototypes of "eternal" laptop batteries.
  • Emergency power systems.

In the 1990s, it was considered a "magic powder" that would replace gasoline and lithium.

A direct borohydride fuel cell (DBFC) resembles a conventional battery in design, but operates like an internal combustion engine: as long as "fuel" is supplied, it produces current.

Anode (Negative Electrode): A solution of "salt" (sodium borohydride) in alkaline water is fed to the anode. A chemical reaction occurs on the anode's surface, which can be coated with a layer of gold, platinum, or even nickel, causing the borohydride molecule to disintegrate, releasing 8 electrons into the external circuit.

Cathode (Positive Electrode): This is where ordinary air is located. Oxygen from the air absorbs the electrons coming through the wires.

Membrane: Between them is a special polymer membrane that allows only sodium ions to pass through, but prevents the fuel from mixing with the air.

Why is this technologically complex? Despite its fantastic energy density, the technology encountered three "walls" that prevented its widespread adoption from 1990 to 2014:

Hydrolysis problem: When sodium borohydride comes into contact with water and the catalyst at the anode, it tends not to simply give up electrons, but to instantly release hydrogen bubbles.

Result: Instead of current, you get a "boiling" foam that inflates the housing and can rupture it. A huge portion of the energy is wasted.

Expensive catalysts: For the reaction to be effective, precious metals (gold, palladium, platinum) were required. The use of cheap nickel resulted in very low efficiency.

"Clogging" by reaction products: The "exhaust" of this element is sodium metaborate (NaBO2). This is a solid salt that eventually clogs the pores of the electrodes and the membrane. The cell would start working powerfully, but after a few hours, its output would plummet—it would choke on its own waste.

Technological Complexity of the System. Unlike a lithium battery, which simply sits in a housing, a borohydride cell is a miniature chemical plant.

It requires the following:

  • container for the powder solution.
  • pump for circulating the liquid.
  • system for removing the released hydrogen.
  • cooling system.


https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA481395/page/5/mode/2up

The operation of these DBFCs was accompanied by effects that seemed “anomalous” or extremely unexpected to engineers of the time, sometimes giving rise to controversies.
Result: From 1990 to 2014, such systems were successfully used in military developments (where cost is not a concern, but the lightweight nature of the battery pack is) and in deep-sea vehicles.

The operation of these devices was accompanied by effects that, to engineers of the time, seemed "anomalous" or highly unexpected:

1. The Superefficiency Effect:

The most common "strange" effect was associated with the device suddenly beginning to produce much more energy than expected based on the current.

The strangeness: Hydrogen accumulated inside the housing and began to react at the cathode, as in a conventional hydrogen fuel cell. Engineers observed "excess" power that did not correspond to the consumption of the main solution at the anode. It appeared as if the system was drawing energy "out of nowhere," although in reality, it was simply an unaccounted-for chemical process.

2. Voltage Oscillations (Oscillatory Effect)
In borohydride fuel cells, self-oscillations of voltage were often observed: the voltmeter needle would jump rhythmically without changing the load.
Why this was alarming: This resembled the operation of "active" media or dynamic chaos.
Reality: A thin film of reaction products formed on the anode surface, periodically breaking through with gas bubbles. This dramatically changed the cell resistance. To an observer in the 1990s, this looked like instability in the physics of the process itself.

3. The "delayed" energy effect:

Users noticed that even after the load was turned off, the element continued to "work" (heat up and emit gas).

Oddity: In a classic electric circuit, the current stops instantly. Here, however, the chemical inertia was so great that the system continued to operate long after the circuit was opened, which was sometimes interpreted as the presence of "hidden capacitance" or etheric currents.

4. Cold Fusion and Boron

Between 1990 and 2005, amid the hype surrounding "cold nuclear fusion" (LENR), some researchers attempted to link boron-containing salts to anomalous heat generation.
Boron has isotopes that actively interact with neutrons. Theories arose that under certain conditions (electrolysis of boron salts on palladium electrodes), something more than just chemistry might be occurring.
Result: None of these studies passed the reproducibility test. It was later determined that all the "extra watts" in such experiments were the result of errors in measuring the heat of chemical reactions.

Furthermore, such systems could exhibit a semblance of a violation of Kirchhoff's law due to the charge carryover effect.

Charge carryover along with gas bubbles in electrochemical cells is a real physical effect that, under certain conditions (especially in systems with borohydrides), can visually resemble an "anomaly" or violation of classical electrical laws.

Balistic Charge Carryover Effect (Balloelectric Effect)
When a vigorous gas (hydrogen) evolution occurs in a sodium borohydride solution, bubbles form on the electrode surface.
A gas bubble in an electrolyte is not neutral. An electrical double layer (EDL) forms at the gas-liquid interface. When a bubble detaches, some of the ions from this layer are carried away with it. Gas bubbles at pH > 2–3 (which is typical for alkaline borohydride systems) typically have a negative charge. If bubbles leave the cell en masse through the gas outlet, they literally carry the electrical charge with them into space.

https://luo.chem.utah.edu/_resources/documents/gas-bubbles-in-electrochemical-gas-evolution-reactions.pdf

The charge carried away by the gas can accumulate on the walls of the housing or filters, creating static electricity where it should not be according to the device’s design.

The literature and history of current source research have documented effects that were visually interpreted as "violations of the laws":

Balloelectric effect (Lenard effect): This is the separation of charges when liquid droplets break apart or gas bubbles burst. In the 1990s, researchers noted that in borohydride fuel cells, the device recorded a voltage drop that did not correspond to the load. This occurred precisely because part of the energy was spent "charging" the escaping aerosol.

"Anode effect" in industrial electrolysis: In the aluminum industry, the effect of a gas "coat" forming around the electrode has long been known. The current in the circuit drops almost to zero, but the voltage across the cell jumps sharply to 30-50 V. To the casual observer, this appears as the current disappearing while the potential remains constant, which seems strange from the perspective of classical circuits.

Faradaic efficiency paradoxes: In studies from the early 2000s, it was often noted that the fuel efficiency (Faradaic efficiency) in borohydride cells sometimes exceeded 100% in calculations.

The reason: the previously mentioned hydrogen carryover, which "burned out" at the cathode. Engineers observed more energy than "passed through the ammeter" in the anode circuit. This was often described in papers as "anomalous excess energy" until the mechanisms of hydrogen crossover were studied in detail.

Kirchhoff's law works for closed conductors. In a borohydride fuel cell, the cell becomes an "open" system:
The charge leaves the cell not through the wire, but through the gas outlet pipe.
The sum of the currents in the electrical circuit may not match, since part of the "current" was a flow of charged particles in space (ionic wind).

(The investigation was conducted with partial use of AI resources.) O0
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And what about Marco Rodin coil ?  :)

After all my research into charge separation and the E-Field contained in the center of a toroid, I now find it interesting to look at the Rodin coil in this light. 

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