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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #135 on: 2023-06-11, 07:21:37 »


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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-06-10, 21:40:25
   Max:
   It does interest me to know:
   Who has determined that the unseen and un mesureable Aether, is a "1/2 wavelength standing wave"?
That does not mean that the Aether does not exist.
  Maybe standing waves are as illusive and needed, as fish waves. Nor have I ever seen these standing waves on my scope coming from my device, nor from the kacher or Tesla coils. Have you? If so, perhaps you can show us these standing waves working on your device, as well as what they can actually do, as perfect carrier waves impinging on Your Grenade. And if not, don't worry about it, I've
seen Stalkers videos on it, but no actual proof, as yet.
 
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This might give you an insight.

https://youtu.be/DovunOxlY1k

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #136 on: 2023-06-11, 10:06:58 »


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Quote from: Apecore on 2023-06-10, 22:09:32
Yes, in my opinion altough I understand taking frequency into the equasion it wil be more but not significant.

So stil standing is the idea of changing the current phase in the inductorloop.
In this configuration, only can be done by the signal from the antenna.

What my attention got is your relative high grenade inductance as it has approxemately same resonance frequency as mine. 33uH
Probably it is your wire insulation what gives a lower capacitance.

Ape,


yes, it could be the capacitance between the used wire is different, but as mentioned here:  https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg91333#msg91333 i use the "version 2" of the Grenade wiring scheme.

This means that the layers are not forth and back, but in one direction only although some CW, some CCW.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #137 on: 2023-06-11, 13:08:38 »
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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-06-11, 10:06:58
Ape,


yes, it could be the capacitance between the used wire is different, but as mentioned here:  https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg91333#msg91333 i use the "version 2" of the Grenade wiring scheme.

This means that the layers are not forth and back, but in one direction only although some CW, some CCW.

Itsu

Itsu,

Well it seems to be impossible to replicate an exact grenade as defined by Ruslan, Stalker etc.
As there are to many parameters involved.

Attached my grenade winding order, as I mentioned quit different configured but almost same end result


What definitely can be the same is the direction of each layer related magnetic field.
This is also something to look into, using the right-hand rule  I have a situation that all layer related fields are equal in direction.
Question is, is this important considering the direction of the inductor magnetic field?
Does it contribute to a eventually absorbing of the electrostatic field from the antenna?
In my opinion we are able to do different directions for inductor in case we want a uniform in one direction or create some bloch wall areas.

Btw, there is a typo in the attached picture... not 40meter but 37.5
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #138 on: 2023-06-11, 14:02:29 »
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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-06-10, 21:22:44
Apecore,

In order to understand this phenomenal, " Tesla Technology" we must leave the realm of mainstream science.

Nature stored up in the universe infinite amount of Energy. The transmitter of this energy is Aether this you all know. It is now our job to find out how to appropriate the principles of harvesting this energy.  I was very excited when I read again in PP.PDF that  a closed grenade coil is in ½wavelength mode.

It might interest you to know that Aether is a ½wavelength standing wave or stationary wave. We all know by now that a standing wave is made up of two transverse waves travelling in opposite directions, they have magnetic field ,this description give them the property of a perfect carrier. Your Tesla coil always have a standing wave. Find out if you haven't already. When in imping on your grenade, it pulls it to a stand.

Think along this

Maxolous

Max,
I really do apriciate all the educative stories really I do. But I'm not a high school guy.😁

But never the less it  would be nice te also end with a conclusion regarding the asked question, or in fact at least a statement before you send it.
I'm not going to dig into al that.... I' m hands-on and probably other people like to do more research.


I hope you understand what I mean.
Grt,
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #139 on: 2023-06-11, 14:41:42 »


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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-06-11, 07:21:37
NickZ

This might give you an insight.

https://youtu.be/DovunOxlY1k

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   Max:
    I am not saying that there is no such thing as standing waves, etc.  I'm saying that I have never seen them as being something needed, for these types of devices. Therefore I asked you to confirm that,  by showing how well  they work on your device. Not on some old conventional video, that has no relation to free energy. I am trying to avoid guessing about this. Just like with fish waves, being what is needed.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #140 on: 2023-06-11, 15:00:36 »


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  Please show just how or what we are "ignoring" and doing wrong. But, I will not go off on one of your tangents, again.
  Guessing is for the birds... So, please stay with the topic at hand, or use your own thread for any unrelated rants
  We are trying to figure out what is wrong, without further distraction.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #141 on: 2023-06-11, 15:36:22 »


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   How do you think that we should analyze the idea of BEMF, and it's relation to OU? Any ideas?
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #142 on: 2023-06-11, 16:22:44 »


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  BEMF is much stronger than just a small percentage of the input provided. That's why things blow...
  As current lags behind voltage, this is why a longer lag time may provide for a higher output. Yes? No?
   But, the idea is NOT to harvest this BEMF, but to use it to vibrate the surrounding ambient Aether, instead.
It is that additional surrounding Aether energy source,  that is to be harvested from, instead. As I understand it.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #143 on: 2023-06-11, 19:54:42 »
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   How do you think that we should analyze the idea of BEMF, and it's relation to OU? Any ideas?
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Nick,
As we stated if we can transform a portion of the inductorloop current into real grenade power we dont have to do a lot.

This is what the kacher should deliver.
        
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #144 on: 2023-06-11, 20:31:59 »


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Quote from: Apecore on 2023-06-11, 13:08:38
Itsu,

Well it seems to be impossible to replicate an exact grenade as defined by Ruslan, Stalker etc.
As there are to many parameters involved.

Attached my grenade winding order, as I mentioned quit different configured but almost same end result


What definitely can be the same is the direction of each layer related magnetic field.
This is also something to look into, using the right-hand rule  I have a situation that all layer related fields are equal in direction.
Question is, is this important considering the direction of the inductor magnetic field?
Does it contribute to a eventually absorbing of the electrostatic field from the antenna?
In my opinion we are able to do different directions for inductor in case we want a uniform in one direction or create some bloch wall areas.

Btw, there is a typo in the attached picture... not 40meter but 37.5


Ape,

yes, i have seen so many different Grenade layouts by now that it almost looks like a deliberate smokescreen being laid out.
Nobody now knows what the "real one" looks like IF there is such a "real one".


Interesting Grenade layout you have, i did not see that one before, so you have all layers the same way (CW) except for a part of the last outer layer which is CCW.
I am amazed that you only measure 32uH as there is only a very small part that opposes the rest.
At what frequency was that inductance measured?

Interesting questions you ask, but i am afraid i won't be able to answer those.
My understanding was to have a very low inductance due to the windings partially (50:50) oppose each other, ideally having a coil with no inductance.
Your Grenade is very close to that, but not due to opposing windings.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #145 on: 2023-06-11, 20:36:56 »


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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-06-11, 16:22:44
  BEMF is much stronger than just a small percentage of the input provided. That's why things blow...
  As current lags behind voltage, this is why a longer lag time may provide for a higher output. Yes? No?
   But, the idea is NOT to harvest this BEMF, but to use it to vibrate the surrounding ambient Aether, instead.
It is that additional surrounding Aether energy source,  that is to be harvested from, instead. As I understand it.

  NickZ


Nick,

things blow because the collapsing magnetic field from a coil which was "slowly" build up by say 50V @ 1A over 1 second is suddenly released in a very short (micro seconds) time after the voltage was switched off and with nowhere to go and thus can reach Kilo Volts.

It's like a balloon, you silently and slowly blow it up until it suddenly pops with a bang.


Current lags voltage in an inductive environment (look up "ELI the ICE man") and the other way around in a capacitive environment.
So not sure why you would say: "this is why a longer lag time may provide for a higher output" i do not see the relation with BEMF here.


Ok about using the BEMF pulse (KV) to "vibrate the surrounding ambient Aether" if something as the Aether really exists.
It's like a nanopulse also being used by Ruslan in one of his devices, so instead of using a nanopulse, use a BEMF pulse  O0

Problem is that we need some serious HV switcher (MOSFET?) to withstand this KV pulse, but there are such 1.7KV / 4KV MOSFETs nowadays.
Not sure how to embed this into a Ruslan type of device.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #146 on: 2023-06-11, 20:51:11 »


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Quote from: Apecore on 2023-06-11, 19:54:42
Nick,
As we stated if we can transform a portion of the inductorloop current into real grenade power we dont have to do a lot.

This is what the kacher should deliver.

Ape, unfortunately, present science says it is not possible to directly transform reactive power into real power.

Asking ChatGPT confirms that:


Can reactive power be converted into active power? How?


Reactive power and active power are two components of electrical power that have different characteristics.
Reactive power represents the power consumed or generated by reactive elements in an electrical system, such as inductors and capacitors.
It does not perform any useful work but is necessary for the functioning of certain electrical devices.

On the other hand, active power represents the actual power that is consumed or generated by devices and performs useful work, such as producing mechanical energy or lighting.

In a purely theoretical sense, it is not possible to directly convert reactive power into active power because they serve different purposes in an electrical system.
However, it is possible to manage and optimize the power factor of a system to reduce the amount of reactive power and maximize the utilization of active power.

One common method to improve the power factor is by using power factor correction devices, such as capacitors.
These devices introduce reactive power of opposite sign to the system, compensating for the reactive power generated by inductive loads.
By reducing the reactive power in the system, the power factor is improved, and more active power can be utilized.

By improving the power factor, the overall efficiency of the system can be enhanced, reducing losses and optimizing the use of available active power.
This indirectly increases the effective utilization of active power while minimizing the amount of reactive power in the system.

So while reactive power cannot be directly converted into active power, managing and optimizing the power factor can help maximize the utilization of active power in an electrical system.


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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #147 on: 2023-06-11, 21:44:32 »
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Ape,

yes, i have seen so many different Grenade layouts by now that it almost looks like a deliberate smokescreen being laid out.
Nobody now knows what the "real one" looks like IF there is such a "real one".


Interesting Grenade layout you have, i did not see that one before, so you have all layers the same way (CW) except for a part of the last outer layer which is CCW.
I am amazed that you only measure 32uH as there is only a very small part that opposes the rest.
At what frequency was that inductance measured?

Interesting questions you ask, but i am afraid i won't be able to answer those.
My understanding was to have a very low inductance due to the windings partially (50:50) oppose each other, ideally having a coil with no inductance.
Your Grenade is very close to that, but not due to opposing windings.

Itsu

Hi Itsu,
I' m not aware in how doing a inductance measurement at 10khz.
I'm using a Chinees board to plug in a coil or cap and it delivers a value.
Let me know how the 10khz method works.

My interpretation about the grenade config is that it has to absorb electrostatic energy from the antenna.
We need a field in the grenade to interact with antenna..... how this is being done we need to find out.
Inductor playes a part in this.I guess. How? We have to find out.

But in my opinion we need some excitement of standing wave  in the grenade together with inductor field coöperation.
So thats why my journey starts with the magnetic field interpretation at 2Mhz
Men could argue that tbe 28turn coil could disrupt also something inside the grenade with its squarewave's.

But enough speculating..., hands-on.... we need a sort of test/ discovery plan.

Ape




   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #148 on: 2023-06-11, 21:56:58 »
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Ape, unfortunately, present science says it is not possible to directly transform reactive power into real power.

Asking ChatGPT confirms that:


Can reactive power be converted into active power? How?


Reactive power and active power are two components of electrical power that have different characteristics.
Reactive power represents the power consumed or generated by reactive elements in an electrical system, such as inductors and capacitors.
It does not perform any useful work but is necessary for the functioning of certain electrical devices.

On the other hand, active power represents the actual power that is consumed or generated by devices and performs useful work, such as producing mechanical energy or lighting.

In a purely theoretical sense, it is not possible to directly convert reactive power into active power because they serve different purposes in an electrical system.
However, it is possible to manage and optimize the power factor of a system to reduce the amount of reactive power and maximize the utilization of active power.

One common method to improve the power factor is by using power factor correction devices, such as capacitors.
These devices introduce reactive power of opposite sign to the system, compensating for the reactive power generated by inductive loads.
By reducing the reactive power in the system, the power factor is improved, and more active power can be utilized.

By improving the power factor, the overall efficiency of the system can be enhanced, reducing losses and optimizing the use of available active power.
This indirectly increases the effective utilization of active power while minimizing the amount of reactive power in the system.

So while reactive power cannot be directly converted into active power, managing and optimizing the power factor can help maximize the utilization of active power in an electrical system.


Itsu

Yes, thats AI
It repeats whats is reckonised as knowledge on the internet.

Lets take a transmissionline... f.i. 37.5m grenade.
We inject a 2Mhz signal
We leave the hot end open.
The 1/4 wave will perfectly bounce back.
Current wave lags 90°.
Imagine injecting a 2nd wave which will be in phase with the  1st current wave cycle?
What we get?

Of coarse if grenade is a transmissionline with open end whath is the output coil?
Inductorloop like Geofusion showed us?

I know this is thinking out of the box but it triggers me a lot.
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #149 on: 2023-06-11, 22:38:14 »


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Quote from: Apecore on 2023-06-11, 13:08:38

Well it seems to be impossible to replicate an exact grenade as defined by Ruslan, Stalker etc.
As there are to many parameters involved.

Attached my grenade winding order, as I mentioned quit different configured but almost same end result


Apecore,

You mentioned that you wound your grenade coil in one direction and your attached pic depicts it. When you are winding clockwise as we know, if it is rising from your right as the wind is going from you, it's clockwise or right winding. If it is rising from left as it is going from you ,it is  counterclockwise or left winding. Now, if you are in the second layer as it is coming back to you, it is rising from the same right that is if you didn't switch the ends of your 50mm pipe as regards the side facing you already. But if you do, and your conductor is now rising from your right, your have reversed the winding to counterclockwise in respect to your first layer.

Stalker and Ruslan once mentioned that you can wind one direction and most of us have never tried it because we believe it give rise to excessive inductance. It is now a matter of interest if this be true. All we ever wanted is reduced inductance. In one of Ruslan videos where he gave tutorial on how to wind grenade coil, his inductance was low when he took measurement.

If winding one direction can bring about such low inductance, I think we have to explore this ASAP.  Sometimes our knowledge of conventional science can be barrier which was why I stated that in order to understand this Tesla Technology, one must leave the realm of mainstream science.

@Itsu,

Apecore won't need frequency to measure inductance. With any good LCR METER one can measure any inductance of an inductor.


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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #150 on: 2023-06-11, 22:52:23 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-06-11, 20:51:11
Ape, unfortunately, present science says it is not possible to directly transform reactive power into real power.

Asking ChatGPT confirms that:


Can reactive power be converted into active power? How?


Reactive power and active power are two components of electrical power that have different characteristics.
Reactive power represents the power consumed or generated by reactive elements in an electrical system, such as inductors and capacitors.
It does not perform any useful work but is necessary for the functioning of certain electrical devices.

On the other hand, active power represents the actual power that is consumed or generated by devices and performs useful work, such as producing mechanical energy or lighting.

In a purely theoretical sense, it is not possible to directly convert reactive power into active power because they serve different purposes in an electrical system.
However, it is possible to manage and optimize the power factor of a system to reduce the amount of reactive power and maximize the utilization of active power.

One common method to improve the power factor is by using power factor correction devices, such as capacitors.
These devices introduce reactive power of opposite sign to the system, compensating for the reactive power generated by inductive loads.
By reducing the reactive power in the system, the power factor is improved, and more active power can be utilized.

By improving the power factor, the overall efficiency of the system can be enhanced, reducing losses and optimizing the use of available active power.
This indirectly increases the effective utilization of active power while minimizing the amount of reactive power in the system.

So while reactive power cannot be directly converted into active power, managing and optimizing the power factor can help maximize the utilization of active power in an electrical system.


Itsu

Itsu,

This was answer years ago.

Reactive power can be use by first collecting it into a capacitor. After then, use to do work like active power.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #151 on: 2023-06-11, 22:55:46 »
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Maybe my notification regarding winding order is not standard.
When I mention layer 1 is CW at start.. and if layer 2 is defined as CW its reversed.
I define CW or CCW always from the view were the layer starts.
So I sweep the tube and start CW again.
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #152 on: 2023-06-12, 00:44:24 »


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Itsu,

This was answer years ago.

Reactive power can be use by first collecting it into a capacitor. After then, use to do work like active power.

Maxolous



   Max: That is the same for BEMF.  Kachers run at least at 1MHz. So, it's no slow "one second" build up in the cap. Inductor run at RF frequency.
Ruslan shows the big loud discharged spark at the O.47uf series capacitor, as fast as he can short it out. Lots of amps.
Who of any of us has shown that...

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #153 on: 2023-06-12, 07:17:02 »


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Max,
Maybe my notification regarding winding order is not standard.
When I mention layer 1 is CW at start.. and if layer 2 is defined as CW its reversed.
I define CW or CCW always from the view were the layer starts.
So I sweep the tube and start CW again.

Apecore,

Thanks for clarifying this. I almost got confused.
Yes, that was what Ruslan showed us here

https://youtu.be/lQJFmmeDMRk

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #154 on: 2023-06-12, 07:25:49 »


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   Max: That is the same for BEMF.  Kachers run at least at 1MHz. So, it's no slow "one second" build up in the cap. Inductor run at RF frequency.
Ruslan shows the big loud discharged spark at the O.47uf series capacitor, as fast as he can short it out. Lots of amps.
Who of any of us has shown that...

   NickZ

Nickz,

BEMF yes, also like boost convertor where the BEMF is collected in cap before being used or available for use.

Concerning the Ruslan video you mentioned l, can you give me a pointer to it.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #155 on: 2023-06-12, 08:22:22 »


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What makes you think its BEMF Geo thought it was that as well, HOW ? there is no connection between the catcher and the grenade or yoke.

Sil

Apecore,

There is connection. The high voltage of kacher is impinging on it. This impingement or pulsing affects the grenade overall performance.
Maybe this is what NickZ knows as  "disruptive operation"
I believe this pulsing is to give the electrons flow in the grenade conductor a push

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Nickz,

BEMF yes, also like boost convertor where the BEMF is collected in cap before being used or available for use.

Concerning the Ruslan video you mentioned l, can you give me a pointer to it.

Maxolous

Howdy all. I thought I'd chime in here because I see some parallels with the work I'm doing.

When you say BEMF, I think you mean inductive kickback which happens when power through a coil is stopped abruptly. BEMF is the counter force / magnetic field that another conductor creates to oppose another magnetic field.

I am going to assume that it is inductive kickback that we're talking about. I've found that it is quite easy to charge a capacitor to a high voltage by interrupting the power into a coil. This voltage is dependent on how quickly you can turn off the switch. The quicker you turn it off, the higher the voltage.

Now, if you have a high frequency switch (MOSFET) that is able to turn off quickly (<10ns) then you can charge the capacitor from the inductive kickback many times per second (up to 1MHz). When you discharge the capacitor the current that is produced is dependent on how quickly you can discharge the capacitor, t=RC. A lower resistance causes a greater current to be produced. If you discharge the capacitor as soon as it has been charged then you can produce a continuous current, but it will be pulsating DC. You'd need to rectify it, smooth it etc. to get a clean DC output. If you want AC at a lower frequency (50/60Hz), then you need to charge a larger output capacitor to a lower voltage from the high frequency, high voltage, low capacitance capacitor and then use an IGBT or high amp MOSGET half bridge to output the low frequency AC.

The energy in a capacitor is E = 0.5 * CV^2. Increasing capacitance gives you a linear energy increase. Increasing voltage gives you an exponential energy increase. Therefore is it much more advantageous to charge a low capacitance to a high voltage, because you get more energy that way. Charging a low capacitance to a high voltage is exactly what we are doing by harvesting the inductive kickback.

I'm working on a device that follows these principles, which I've described in this thread: https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4467.0
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #157 on: 2023-06-12, 11:30:15 »


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Quote from: Apecore on 2023-06-11, 21:44:32
Hi Itsu,
I' m not aware in how doing a inductance measurement at 10khz.
I'm using a Chinees board to plug in a coil or cap and it delivers a value.
Let me know how the 10khz method works.

My interpretation about the grenade config is that it has to absorb electrostatic energy from the antenna.
We need a field in the grenade to interact with antenna..... how this is being done we need to find out.
Inductor playes a part in this.I guess. How? We have to find out.

But in my opinion we need some excitement of standing wave  in the grenade together with inductor field coöperation.
So thats why my journey starts with the magnetic field interpretation at 2Mhz
Men could argue that tbe 28turn coil could disrupt also something inside the grenade with its squarewave's.

But enough speculating..., hands-on.... we need a sort of test/ discovery plan.

Ape

Ape,

i have an LCR meter Agilent UC1733C (https://www.keysight.com/us/en/product/U1733C/handheld-lcr-meter-100-hz-120-hz-1-khz-10-khz100-khz.html) which measures the inductance (among other things)
of a coil on several different selectable frequencies (100Hz, 120Hz, 1KHz, 10kHz and 100kHz).

As we run the Grenade between 10 to 25kHz, i selected the 10kHz range which measured the mentioned 150uH.
Therefor i always mention the Inductance at a certain frequency (150uH @ 10kHz) as the inductance varies with frequency.

To show how the inductance of a coil (in this case my Grenade) can vary by frequency i use my nanoVNA to give me the inductance value over a frequency range like here (from my post #39):



It shows at the 10kHz range (starting frequency of my nanoVNA) the same 150uH as the LCR meter, but then starts to deviate when increasing the frequency until resonance after which the grenade starts to show negative inductances meaning capacitance.
If my LCR meter would be able to measure at say 3.45MHz (marker 3 in the graph) it would show an inductance of -43.3uH and when in "auto mode" switches over to capacitance.


Itsu
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #158 on: 2023-06-12, 14:33:37 »


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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-06-12, 08:22:22
Apecore,

There is connection. The high voltage of kacher is impinging on it. This impingement or pulsing affects the grenade overall performance.
Maybe this is what NickZ knows as  "disruptive operation"
I believe this pulsing is to give the electrons flow in the grenade conductor a push

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   Max: I don't relate any of the above to electrons being pushed to flow through the conductor, by the high voltage pulse.
It is a matter of interference of the magnetic flux, instead By disruption, not a push, at all. But by STOPPING, the grenade's pulse, instead.  Tesla mentions what happens when the switch is open. Not by "adding" anything.
The Kachers pulse is not being interupted, it's the grenade pulse instead, which gets affected. Big difference.
   By simply ADDING HV pulses to the grenade, we will get exactly what we all got, nothing,  no OU, no self running...

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #159 on: 2023-06-12, 16:56:34 »
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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-06-11, 15:36:22
  Ape:
   How do you think that we should analyze the idea of BEMF, and it's relation to OU? Any ideas?
    NickZ

Nick, hi

There are several methods.
The common Ruslan setup suggest a regular HV sinewave from the antenna wil be enough to creare OU.
This is not emf.
Dally used nanopulses to penetrate the inductor and or grenade.
Stalker used a interupter to get " nano" pulses from the kacher.

Do you remember Geo' s scopeshot of his kacher signals showing high dV/dt rising edges?

Getting emf from a coil can be done by switching it fast.
Ruslan could have lined its kacher up in such a way, not letting it resonate by pulsing a primary coil but switching the secondary to Vcc.
Here is were you get the nice unipolair puls. In fact half a period from the coils resonance frequency.as the other half way flows trough the bodydiode of the Mosfet.

When you ask how to analyse this I personally think we have to build a testcase were a single puls result can be stored, meaured. This together with scopeshots could point out if we are going the right direction.
Altough I've done a lot testing in this area w/o results I believe in someway the emf from a coil could be stored in the grenade when this grenade acts as a cap... and releases it when goes back to inductive again.
Itsu's nice resonance graph shows these relations.

Ape
   
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