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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #431 on: 2023-07-18, 11:43:43 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-18, 10:23:33
There were some attempts in the past for the current and the voltage phases from the series LC in the inductor circuit (3 turn secondary / Wima cap) to stay in phase with each other (thus in series resonance) using a 4046 PLL circuit (pushpull / synchronizer) discussed from here: https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg90986#msg90986

I guess verpies is pointing to that.

Max is talking about phase locking the Push-Pull signal with the kacher signal i think.

Itsu.
Itsu I posted you adocument explaining some of the workings of the device some time May or early june
has it taken you till now to read them. Also on that page I pointed out indirectly a tube you realy ourt to work out
what that does instead of pretending to ignor me and waking up to the facts later on.

Here it is again 7 years on

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #432 on: 2023-07-18, 14:23:01 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-18, 10:23:33
There were some attempts in the past for the current and the voltage phases from the series LC in the inductor circuit (3 turn secondary / Wima cap) to stay in phase with each other (thus in series resonance) using a 4046 PLL circuit (pushpull / synchronizer) discussed from here: https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg90986#msg90986

I guess verpies is pointing to that.

Max is talking about phase locking the Push-Pull signal with the kacher signal i think.

Itsu.

Itsu

Anytime we achieve series or parallel resonance in LC circuit, power factor is in unity . This; no phase angle between voltage and current in the circuit-- XL=XC.

The one we are taking about is phase lock

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #433 on: 2023-07-18, 14:28:02 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-18, 10:23:33
:o

Max is talking about phase locking the Push-Pull signal with the kacher signal i think.

Itsu.

Itsu,

Yeah!!!

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #434 on: 2023-07-18, 16:25:37 »


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PLL
It's possible to use a 4046 (use all new devices) and 2 4017 can do it no problem
at 15 Volts with decent edge triggering far cleaner than HC but you could do it
with a HC4046 and a 74HC390 but again you need to know how to take advantage
both chips caracteristics for maximum advantage to get 50/50 sqr wave output.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #435 on: 2023-07-18, 17:00:22 »


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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-18, 14:23:01
Itsu

Anytime we achieve series or parallel resonance in LC circuit, power factor is in unity . This; no phase angle between voltage and current in the circuit-- XL=XC.

The one we are taking about is phase lock

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Max,

that "power factor is in unity" and "no phase angle between voltage and current" is exactly what that verpies designed PLL circuit did, it locked the voltage and current phases at 0 degrees (resonance) by steering via its VCO the TL494 to stay there (in resonance).

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #436 on: 2023-07-18, 18:53:11 »


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   Guys:
   Don't you need to first have the proper interaction going between the PP and the Kacher circuits?
Showing something worth locking them into?   As that has not really happened, as yet. Or, does that not matter.
First we go after fish waves, then modulated waves, now also phase locked waves. Kinda seams like a bunch of distractions, to me. How about a little working interaction, for a change...
   
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  I am patiently waiting for Itsu's next report. And Ape also mentioned "having something working", video coming.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #437 on: 2023-07-18, 20:37:14 »


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Quote from: verpies on 2023-07-17, 22:42:20
Is the 4046 PLL circuit supposed to affect the push-pull's frequency and phase ?
Verpies and Itsu; This PLL you refer to would it be too much trouble if you
could post your schematic of the PLL on this thread.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #438 on: 2023-07-19, 14:44:03 »


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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-18, 19:43:06
This man is being impatient and intolerant, would it not be better to take the lead and deliver to us an effectively working device.
I don't think anything is bad about that!
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   Well Max, normally I am patient and tolerant, but after watching you "take the lead" for the last several months and still going nowhere. Nor have you presented us anything of value that works, at all. I have come to believe that you may not know what you're doing. Nor have you built any kind of actual replication, after all these years. So excuse me if your credibilities are in doubt.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #439 on: 2023-07-20, 01:44:02 »


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   Max:
  What do I want? You asked.   From the thread I would like to see some advancement. And, I don't agree with most of what you say or have done, so far. Nor see anything positive therefrom. As that is the point of all this.
    You would be better to worry about what you should do. Not what you think that I should do.
 I have again removed another one of your insulting and distracting comments. And will continue to do do, so don't press your luck.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #440 on: 2023-07-20, 15:13:19 »


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yes thanks Nick, but what you need to understan is

Ape core made a statment so nothing is going to happen till we know what he has to say.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #441 on: 2023-07-20, 19:42:27 »


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   AG:
   Good thing that I have you here to tell me what I need to understand.
   Seams like several of you have that same issue.

   BTW:  Guys: Thanks,  for taking the personal bull shit elsewhere.
 That is not welcome, here. This thread is about self running devices. Not your personal soap opera.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #442 on: 2023-07-21, 12:15:28 »


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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-07-21, 00:02:00

  To be frank, only by you,  Max. You seam to have the same problem as Wesley. Maybe you two should form a team.
  AG mentioned something about mushrooms...keep em in the dark...

   NickZ
    Ok, that's it for this...
 

Dear NickZ,

AG also mentioned ; in other words "wait for Apecore"
He is cooking the soup and he ' s going to serve you soon buddy!

Though he said do nothing. All you have to do is be at the table , get your hands washed and wait.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #443 on: 2023-07-21, 14:15:19 »


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   Thanks, I would not know what to do without you guys.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #444 on: 2023-07-21, 16:36:31 »


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I hate to tell you this but there is no such thing as self running device,
Every running device eather uses a battery or Line power to initalise and start things running.

Nick here is a photo from OU thread it's Adrian Guska device what I want to show you
is a black wire running from the Katcher circuit to the push pull circuit, It's porpose
is to turn the katcher on and off so it's not like your device is it ?

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #445 on: 2023-07-21, 20:17:06 »


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   BTW: To whom it may concern:
   I have not banned, or kick out, locked out anyone, ever.
   Thanks for your confidence.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #446 on: 2023-07-31, 16:47:13 »
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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-07-21, 20:17:06

   It may actually take a while to remove this thread, as it took to start it.
 

Nick,

I can understand you wanting to close this thread (sadly), but with all of the data Itsu, you, and others have placed in this thread, I hope it will at least be saved for future reference and posted links.

Thanks,
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #447 on: 2023-07-31, 17:36:21 »


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   Picowatt:
   Thanks for your comment. I do agree with you, sadly. The sad part is that only Itsu was building anything, and the rest are just adding distracting posts that mostly disrupted any real advancements. Something like the blind leading the blind, to nowhere.
   I am still very interested in finding the missing link, but, without all the distractions. And the idea was to replicate a working system, or find what is wrong. Not to go off on tangents for months on end.

  For now this thread will still remain open, as closing this thread is like cutting off my right hand, to me. After years of research on this project. And I do feel that members here are barking up the wrong tree concerning the mode of operations of this type of device. Yet, I have allowed this to happen so that others can have their say, and have time to test out their ideas, as well. Until things get too personal and lose the objective, of free energy.
As this is NOT a rants thread.
 However, this thread will now be continued, as Itsu and others still have much to go, if interested. And so do I.
 
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #448 on: 2023-08-01, 12:40:50 »


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Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023-07-21, 16:36:31
I hate to tell you this but there is no such thing as self running device,
Every running device eather uses a battery or Line power to initalise and start things running.

Nick here is a photo from OU thread it's Adrian Guska device what I want to show you
is a black wire running from the Katcher circuit to the push pull circuit, It's porpose
is to turn the katcher on and off so it's not like your device is it ?

Sil

PS we wish you all the best  8)




   AG:
   This has been discussed several times before. The black wire that you refer to is NOT connected to anything, at the time the video was taken. Even though it looks like it is. It's not.
  So yes, Adrians replication of Stalkers device is like mine. But, look at his Kacher secondary, and how long it is. So no, it's not just like mine, but similar in any case.
   I don't mind doing that myself, at some point,  to include the interuptor circuit as well. But, I need a diagram to know just how to do that. I had asked T-1000, but I got no reply from him.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #449 on: 2023-08-01, 18:30:07 »


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I havent got that far with that project in testing triggering the catcher device there are so many different timing circuits who knows witch is the correct circuit, Adrian Guska used the Stalker circuit, but Ruslan shows a different circuit in the device he gave Panov his catcher driver comes from the TL494 the mono stable logic is to alow fror device propergation delays.

Have a look here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCumjgeQXpjz4oaKXa7tZIwg


However there are plenty of circuits on OU thread with various gating circuits.

Ruslan has a few threads to go through on you tube I think you might have deleated the hyper link to
his main info thread world cup  no 79 posted a link 'Don smith resonant energy crafting' is one to look out for.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #450 on: 2023-08-02, 15:26:17 »


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    The thing is that if we take the pulse from the TL494 chip, to turn the kacher on and off, it will be limited to funtion at only that same frequency, and no other frequencies.
So, is that really the best way to sync the kacher with the induction circuits???
As that means that the kacher pulse wil be running at around 15KHz to 20KHz, or so, just the same as the induction circuits. Instead of running in the kachers normal MHz range that its secondary coil is tuned to run at. Therefore, it's no wonder the kacher will be running much weaker, using that system. And perhaps the kacher secondary coil needs to be retuned like Adrian has his, (much longer than normal). To run in the KHz range, instead.
  These are some of the things that we need to verify.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #451 on: 2023-08-03, 05:22:43 »


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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-08-02, 15:26:17
    The thing is that if we take the pulse from the TL494 chip, to turn the kacher on and off, it will be limited to funtion at only that same frequency, and no other frequencies.
So, is that really the best way to sync the kacher with the induction circuits???
As that means that the kacher pulse wil be running at around 15KHz to 20KHz, or so, just the same as the induction circuits. Instead of running in the kachers normal MHz range that its secondary coil is tuned to run at. Therefore, it's no wonder the kacher will be running much weaker, using that system. And perhaps the kacher secondary coil needs to be retuned like Adrian has his, (much longer than normal). To run in the KHz range, instead.
  These are some of the things that we need to verify.

   NickZ
No! not like that! your catcher is a self runner you need to try just gating it with the PP 'OR' gate it
(like a data window) and see how far you get. Not all systems are the same different guys get different results.

See other guy's scope shot
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #452 on: 2023-08-03, 21:11:38 »


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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-08-02, 15:26:17
    The thing is that if we take the pulse from the TL494 chip, to turn the kacher on and off, it will be limited to funtion at only that same frequency, and no other frequencies.
So, is that really the best way to sync the kacher with the induction circuits???
As that means that the kacher pulse wil be running at around 15KHz to 20KHz, or so, just the same as the induction circuits. Instead of running in the kachers normal MHz range that its secondary coil is tuned to run at. Therefore, it's no wonder the kacher will be running much weaker, using that system. And perhaps the kacher secondary coil needs to be retuned like Adrian has his, (much longer than normal). To run in the KHz range, instead.
  These are some of the things that we need to verify.

   NickZ

I can't resist not commenting on this.
Please, kacher always resonate at it own frequency whether you build it to res. on MHZ or KHZ. When you interrupt it with your push pull signal of say 15KHZ, that will be the repetition rate of the kacher in it own res frequency.

That is to say: a kacher that is running at 1MHZ will do that at the rate of 15000cycles/sec.

Now, this is what we have been talking about, but some persons don't pay any attention.  Thus; the push pull signal becomes the envelope and the kacher signal becomes the message as in AM modulation. This is synchronising both signals.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #453 on: 2023-08-03, 21:48:54 »


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   Max:
   Again, I'm not sure that I agree.
  What I am saying is that if your kacher secondary is not tuned to the right working frequency, your kacher is not going to funtion very well, by just adjusting the frequency trim pots. I'm not sure what you are trying to say.  As so far, none of your suggestions have worked out, at all. Perhaps you can show us what you mean, instead of just more opinions.
 
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #454 on: 2023-08-03, 22:02:58 »


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   Max:
   Again, I'm not sure that I agree.
  What I am saying is that if your kacher secondary is not tuned to the right working frequency, your kacher is not going to funtion very well, by just adjusting the frequency trim pots. I'm not sure what you are trying to say.  As so far, none of your suggestions have worked out, at all. Perhaps you can show us what you mean, instead of just more opinions.
 
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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-08-03, 21:47:00
For more clarity, I post the pictogram below. Assuming the kacher in the first  pic is ringing at 1MHZ.

Check the second pic ; If the Push-pull signal is 15KHZ and it's interrupting the Kacher, then you would see 15,000 of this "fish' in 1sec .

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #455 on: 2023-08-03, 22:06:27 »


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These are not artifacts.

I do hope it is clear enough now.

And am sure you got it otherwise forget about it.

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