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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #357 on: 2023-07-05, 19:35:01 »


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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-07-05, 19:19:58
Quote from: NickZ on 2023-07-04, 14:44:10
    Max:
    Sorry for asking about your progress. I should have known better. Won't happen again.
   But, I had thought that you mentioned "progress". Must be another slight language barrier, here.

   All:
   I have been keeping quiet lately to give you all a chance to build up something, hopefully that works.
 And also to openly discuss what does not work, as well.
  As I believe that I already know what will happen when you try to match up those frequencies as you are doing.
And you are already finding that out yourselves, which takes some time.
But, unless you build a complete device, you will not know what works, or what doesn't.
  And that also takes some time, money, and a bit of work. For those interested, if any.
 
  Max: You are continuing to insult the moderator here, me. I can do without your insults. Last warning...

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Nickz,

I saw this post before now and I simply ignored it. What are you talking about, what insult , please.


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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #358 on: 2023-07-05, 21:29:36 »


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   Yes, well I can see that you ignore it.
    Are you going to continue to tell me what you think I should do, and think?
   Just letting you know. You should save it. I guess you don't know what respect means.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #359 on: 2023-07-05, 21:31:02 »


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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-05, 19:35:01
Nickz,

I saw this post before now and I simply ignored it. What are you talking about, what insult , please.


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How much is the going rate for a development engineer these days ?
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #360 on: 2023-07-05, 22:11:39 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-05, 13:48:15
Thanks Max,

i was expecting that you would point to those areas, which in my understanding are just artifacts created by the scope display (interference of the traces, see if they stay when expanding the time base), but i guess that's just my perception.

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Itsu,

You're right about that , it is artifacts created by the scope. However, in real time the modulation I described was brought about by when the grenade started responding to Tesla's signal. There will always be a time if you haven't gotten it right there will be no modulation.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #361 on: 2023-07-05, 23:42:00 »


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   Yes, well I can see that you ignore it.
    Are you going to continue to tell me what you think I should do, and think?
   Just letting you know. You should save it. I guess you don't know what respect means, on every post you made to me.
   Do you want to keep posting here, or not?
You call that bad blood...
  Thanks. I call that more of your insults.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #362 on: 2023-07-06, 08:36:51 »


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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-05, 22:11:39
Itsu,

You're right about that , it is artifacts created by the scope. However, in real time the modulation I described was brought about by when the grenade started responding to Tesla's signal. There will always be a time if you haven't gotten it right there will be no modulation.

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Max,

OK, When i now leave the Grenade shorted or open, re-connect the gizmo and fire up the Kacher, i see a slight peak (scope probe 5cm from Antenna) on the scope when tuning the Kacher with a ferrite bar inside to resonate at 1226kHz.

It seems there is some interaction between the Grenade and Kacher when both are at this 1226kHz frequency.

As i do not have the Push-Pull active, no 26.2kHz or whatever modulation is seen, but i will be working on that to put that into the mix also.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #363 on: 2023-07-06, 12:08:42 »


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Max,

OK, When i now leave the Grenade shorted or open, re-connect the gizmo and fire up the Kacher, i see a slight peak (scope probe 5cm from Antenna) on the scope when tuning the Kacher with a ferrite bar inside to resonate at 1226kHz.

It seems there is some interaction between the Grenade and Kacher when both are at this 1226kHz frequency.

As i do not have the Push-Pull active, no 26.2kHz or whatever modulation is seen, but i will be working on that to put that into the mix also.

Itsu

Itsu,
 It's okay.
Without proper interaction like this, in full operation grenade o/p will go down when kacher is on because of mismatch.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #364 on: 2023-07-06, 14:17:51 »


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   I find that tuning the kacher or grenade using ferrite,  increases overheating when using 24v inputs. So, may not be a good final option.
I also notice that the closer tuning to best output at resonance,  the more the coils and components heat up.
Overheating is one of the main drawback of this type of device. Maybe that's why nobody has shown it running their house.

My unloaded grenade output at the rectifier can get close to 1000 volts.  Remember that everything changes when the ground line is connected, and it becomes part of the device. I had understood that tuning should be performed including the tuned ground line connection. Geo's device won't even fire up without the ground connection. Mine does not like it either, just won't sync right.
It's curious, but Ruslan has never shown any ringing at all, ever. Makes me think that something may not be right, as there is no ringing even when he places his hand on the grenade coils. So...what's up with that? Could he be faking it? I would not put that past him.
 
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #365 on: 2023-07-06, 14:43:00 »


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You were talking earlier about driving the katcher directly positive pulse. Here is a circuit
that just drives the katcher in a data window in sync with the PP.
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #366 on: 2023-07-06, 20:10:01 »


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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-07-06, 14:17:51
   Itsu:
   I find that tuning the kacher or grenade using ferrite,  increases overheating when using 24v inputs. So, may not be a good final option.
I also notice that the closer tuning to best output at resonance,  the more the coils and components heat up.
Overheating is one of the main drawback of this type of device. Maybe that's why nobody has shown it running their house.

My unloaded grenade output at the rectifier can get close to 1000 volts.  Remember that everything changes when the ground line is connected, and it becomes part of the device. I had understood that tuning should be performed including the tuned ground line connection. Geo's device won't even fire up without the ground connection. Mine does not like it either, just won't sync right.
It's curious, but Ruslan has never shown any ringing at all, ever. Makes me think that something may not be right, as there is no ringing even when he places his hand on the grenade coils. So...what's up with that? Could he be faking it? I would not put that past him.
 
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Nick,

I use the ferrite to tune the kacher secondary only temporary, once i know what is the right frequency i will try to make one without the ferrite.

Yes, heat seems a problem, but that should be manageable once we have reached 5kW output, which is more than enough for some cooling.

Concerning the ground, yes that also is a problem as there are grounds and grounds, but there are claims that even without any ground the device should work, only less efficient.

Not sure what you mean by ringing, ringing where?

Anyway, a fake may still be possible, but if we do nothing we surely have nothing, so we can only try.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #367 on: 2023-07-06, 20:27:04 »


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    Agreed. Something is  better than nothing...
    Ringing, (Radio Moscow). No Ringing on any of Ruslan many selfrunners.

   Using ferrite to tune with is fine, but it was not used or needed in any of the shown former tubes.
Possibly due to causing overheating.
   Magnetite egg shaped magnets on the yoke core, can also be used to fine tune and increase gain, again inducing additional heating, and current draw, if left there. So it's best to use them only for tuning, as you mentioed.
   As I tune for highest output,  that brings with it higher loads to the input, and heating as well.
 Maybe best resonance and best output is not the best way to tune for.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #368 on: 2023-07-06, 21:03:30 »


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Nick,

ok, Radio Moscow, the squealing you mean, well i think if you have that, then something is wrong as it is a sign of something is oscillating which normally is no good.

Yeah, resonance could be not what we have to aim for, like with the TPU it seems, but there is now so much information that it is hard to find out what is needed and what not.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #369 on: 2023-07-06, 21:51:47 »


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I think in most presumed generators of energy, there are several systems of resonance doing specific jobs, in STEAP there are 2.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #370 on: 2023-07-06, 22:34:24 »


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Nick,

ok, Radio Moscow, the squealing you mean, well i think if you have that, then something is wrong as it is a sign of something is oscillating which normally is no good.

Yeah, resonance could be not what we have to aim for, like with the TPU it seems, but there is now so much information that it is hard to find out what is needed and what not.

Itsu


   That is interesting that you think that the ringing is something to avoid. Most self runners are ringing. Like the "Joule Ringer", and other oscillators. But Ruslans don't ring. Maybe you're right.
  But when my device does not ring, it means that there is no sync, and little output. Higher output usually means louder ringing, normally. However, the frequency of the ringing is muc lower than the 18kHz push pull frequency. As I can't hear above 11KHz.
 
   I think that Geo does not tune, the same as I do, as without his kacher also on, the lights won't even light, at all. Depends how he wires it, though. He had much help building his oscillator/drivers from his Serbian friends. His device did also ring loudly,  the Radio Moscow sound. I guess that Geo is not checking in lately. He was a member here.
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #371 on: 2023-07-07, 00:21:24 »


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Nick those frequency’s are dangerous simply because below 20khz electrons or what ever they are go through things and vibrate stuff including you that’s why Don Smith used 35khz as that sort of frequency they travel onthe outside of the wire and are free to whiz round free.

Just because Itsu is your hero doesn’t mean he is a doctor (or any one else for that mater) of electronics.  C.C
No offence intended. Or that I am or know every thing, check it out for your self. O0

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #372 on: 2023-07-07, 00:41:36 »


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   Ok Sil:
   I'll keep that in mind. I have not suffered any symptoms as yet.
Perhaps Akula, Ruslan and Stalker should know about that, as well.
   Actually, I really like to work with the magnetic non shocking current of the push pulls induction circuits.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #373 on: 2023-07-09, 17:12:36 »
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Nick those frequency’s are dangerous simply because below 20khz electrons or what ever they are go through things
and vibrate stuff including you that’s why Don Smith used 35khz as that sort of frequency they travel on the outside
of the wire and are free to whiz round free.

Just because Itsu is your hero doesn’t mean he is a doctor (or any one else for that mater) of electronics.  C.C
No offence intended. Or that I am or know every thing, check it out for your self. O0

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Thank you AlienGrey for your comment.
Physics has different opinion.
Only electromagnetic wave whose frequency is over visible light ( shorter  than  visible light)  becomes dangerous  although  infrared ( that is below visible light)
is vibrating  the organic molecules.
https://chem.libretexts.org/Courses/University_of_California_Davis/UCD_Chem_002CH/Text/UNIT_IV%3A_MOLECULAR_SPECTROSCOPY/20.2%3A_Vibrations_and_Rotations_of_Molecules%3A_Infrared_and_Microwave_Spectroscopy

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/6395/frequency-ranges-that-causes-a-hazard-to-humans
However exposure  to energy level may be according to inverse square law  more evident to the experimenter but EM at lower than ionization frequencies converts its energy to heat.
Solution for that is keep  a distance usually  few cm    more from the source.
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #374 on: 2023-07-09, 21:27:54 »


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Max,

OK, When i now leave the Grenade shorted or open, re-connect the gizmo and fire up the Kacher, i see a slight peak (scope probe 5cm from Antenna) on the scope when tuning the Kacher with a ferrite bar inside to resonate at 1226kHz.

It seems there is some interaction between the Grenade and Kacher when both are at this 1226kHz frequency.

As i do not have the Push-Pull active, no 26.2kHz or whatever modulation is seen, but i will be working on that to put that into the mix also.

Itsu

I have my push-pull running at resonance with a 570nF series cap to the Inductor having a sine wave of 500V across this cap at 25kHz.

Grenade is open (Fres 1226kHz) and the Kacher is on running at 1226kHz tuned with the ferrite bar and i see the above-mentioned interaction.

But no modulation (due to the push-pull running at 25kHz) is seen on this kacher signal.

I will try some further fine-tuning.....


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Max,

OK, When i now leave the Grenade shorted or open, re-connect the gizmo and fire up the Kacher, i see a slight peak (scope probe 5cm from Antenna) on the scope when tuning the Kacher with a ferrite bar inside to resonate at 1226kHz.

It seems there is some interaction between the Grenade and Kacher when both are at this 1226kHz frequency.

As i do not have the Push-Pull active, no 26.2kHz or whatever modulation is seen, but i will be working on that to put that into the mix also.

Itsu

I have my push-pull running at resonance with a 570nF series cap to the Inductor having a sine wave of 500V across this cap at 25kHz.

Grenade is open (Fres 1226kHz) and the Kacher is on running at 1226kHz tuned with the ferrite bar and i see the above-mentioned interaction.

But no modulation (due to the push-pull running at 25kHz) is seen on this kacher signal.

I will try some further fine-tuning.....


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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #375 on: 2023-07-09, 22:22:19 »


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   Itsu:
   Do you mean no noticible interaction, or sync? .
   Not sure what you mean.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #376 on: 2023-07-10, 07:24:07 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-09, 21:27:54
I have my push-pull running at resonance with a 570nF series cap to the Inductor having a sine wave of 500V across this cap at 25kHz.

Grenade is open (Fres 1226kHz) and the Kacher is on running at 1226kHz tuned with the ferrite bar and i see the above-mentioned interaction.

But no modulation (due to the push-pull running at 25kHz) is seen on this kacher signal.

I will try some further fine-tuning.....


Itsu
I think Itsu is saying he is switching or gating the output of the katcher on and off
at 25khz  and then injecting it into the grenade  by transmission, but that is unclear and
needs verification how that's taking place. But wouldn't this need to be done on the grenade
output other wise the frequency is no longer in resonance but isn't clear.

Perhaps a flow chart might help explain what he is hoping to achieve.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #377 on: 2023-07-10, 09:36:55 »


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   Itsu:
   Do you mean no noticible interaction, or sync? .
   Not sure what you mean.

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Nick,

i am trying to get the same signals as Max showed like here:  https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4471.msg105588#msg105588

A modulated signal consisting of a carrier signal of 1229kHz (Grenade resonance and Kacher resonance frequencies) and the push-pull signal (25kHz) with the Grenade "open" and the probe laying nearby the Antenna.

He states that if we have the Grenade resonating on the same frequency as the kacher (1229kHz in my case) there is some interaction (which i have, however very slim) and if we then activate the Push-pull on a certain sub-harmonic (50th in my case) frequency a pick-up probe would pick up this modulated signal.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #378 on: 2023-07-10, 10:10:49 »


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Nick,

i am trying to get the same signals as Max showed like here:  https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4471.msg105588#msg105588

A modulated signal consisting of a carrier signal of 1229kHz (Grenade resonance and Kacher resonance frequencies) and the push-pull signal (25kHz) with the Grenade "open" and the probe laying nearby the Antenna.

He states that if we have the Grenade resonating on the same frequency as the kacher (1229kHz in my case) there is some interaction (which i have, however very slim) and if we then activate the Push-pull on a certain sub-harmonic (50th in my case) frequency a pick-up probe would pick up this modulated signal.

Itsu

Itsu,

Your PP should be 24.58kHZ.  your signal hasn't matched up because if it does, there will be obvious modulation. That's the point your Tesla will start pumping.
Don't be deceived when they say Tesla doesn't need to be strong, those demonstrating weak signal at antenna when touch with a screwdriver knows that Tesla is grossly absorbed into grenade.

Checkout two of Geo's videos

https://youtu.be/1weV296sjHU
https://youtu.be/vTCaF7R4Z-M

Maxolous.
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #379 on: 2023-07-10, 10:35:02 »


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Max,

i know the Push-Pull should be at a 50th sub-harmonic frequency of the Kacher / Grenade resonance frequencies, so i was tuning the Push-Pull to be around this value (24.8, 25, etc. kHz), but never i saw this modulated signal yet, but as i mentioned above, i will do some further fine-tuning.

 
Thanks for the Geo video's, but as he has not yet showed a self-runner, how amazing his effects are, it does not necessarily mean he is/was on the right track.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #380 on: 2023-07-10, 11:40:47 »


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If you look at the Alexey Sergeev device he showed running on Overunity and YouTube  his grenade was running at 15khz and also push pull and his katcher was self oscillating at 1.5mhz witch does appear to be more practical
but his secret power is not disclosed in that article, and the same with the Akula device.

Sil

I will try and find it, it was some where between Dally 800 and 1200 page
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